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Do you like food buffs causing magicka/hp/stamina bars to always remain visible?
pecheckler
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On consoles after using food the buffed magicka, health, and stamina bars always remain visible until the effect expires. Not just when in combat. Many people have complained about this, submitted bug reports, commented on the forums and reddit. Yet Zenimax has not said anything in response, so we can only assume it's intended design.
Do you like this "feature"?
*This is not a pole asking whether or not you want a buff indicator (aka a tiny buff icon with a timer in the corner of your UI - We all know this would be ideal). This a pole about whether or not you want that buff indicator to be the gigantic magicka/health/stamina bars always remaining visible even out of combat.
Zenimax wanted a minimalistic UI for maximum immersion, yet these three bars are always visible at all times when food buffs are active. That happens to be at all times for many players. How can anyone be for this? These bars serve no purpose when out of combat except to make players aware their food duration has expired, as many have pointed out. Still, I refuse to accept that this was intended. What sane UI designer would make that decision? Give us a toggle option to only display them when in combat with food active.
Edited by pecheckler on June 24, 2015 10:55PM Do you like this "feature"?
*This is not a pole asking whether or not you want a buff indicator (aka a tiny buff icon with a timer in the corner of your UI - We all know this would be ideal). This a pole about whether or not you want that buff indicator to be the gigantic magicka/health/stamina bars always remaining visible even out of combat.
Zenimax wanted a minimalistic UI for maximum immersion, yet these three bars are always visible at all times when food buffs are active. That happens to be at all times for many players. How can anyone be for this? These bars serve no purpose when out of combat except to make players aware their food duration has expired, as many have pointed out. Still, I refuse to accept that this was intended. What sane UI designer would make that decision? Give us a toggle option to only display them when in combat with food active.
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Do you like food buffs causing magicka/hp/stamina bars to always remain visible? 60 votes
Yes, I want food-buffed magicka, health, and stamina bars to always remain visible.
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No, I want buffed magicka, health, and stamina to disappear when out of combat.
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Tre_775✭✭✭Yes, I want food-buffed magicka, health, and stamina bars to always remain visible.This is WAI and not a bug. I like to have those reminders that my buffs are up and which stats are affected."He was already insane before he left Tamriel. Mad as a box of frogs..."
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pecheckler✭✭✭✭✭No, I want buffed magicka, health, and stamina to disappear when out of combat.This is WAI and not a bug. I like to have those reminders that my buffs are up and which stats are affected.
You see if the buff is up either way. The buffed bar sizes are larger. Even using purple food meaning all three are buffed the bar sizes are larger.End the tedious inventory management game.0 -
Tre_775✭✭✭Yes, I want food-buffed magicka, health, and stamina bars to always remain visible.pecheckler wrote: »
Yes, I understand that
"He was already insane before he left Tamriel. Mad as a box of frogs..."
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dlepi24✭✭✭✭Yes, I want food-buffed magicka, health, and stamina bars to always remain visible.pecheckler wrote: »
No, you don't see the buff is up if you're using drinks. The only way to tell is the occasional arrow that goes up on your bars. Regeneration buffs (drinks) don't increase the overall size of the buffs. Seeing as how we don't have buff trackers yet, I think this is a welcomed bonus so you can see when you need to eat/drink again.
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What I mean is that if you were to remove the effect of the bars staying up when buffed, then people using drinks wouldn't know they were up other than checking the character screen for active effects.
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pecheckler✭✭✭✭✭No, I want buffed magicka, health, and stamina to disappear when out of combat.pecheckler wrote: »
No, you don't see the buff is up if you're using drinks. The only way to tell is the occasional arrow that goes up on your bars. Regeneration buffs (drinks) don't increase the overall size of the buffs. Seeing as how we don't have buff trackers yet, I think this is a welcomed bonus so you can see when you need to eat/drink again.
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What I mean is that if you were to remove the effect of the bars staying up when buffed, then people using drinks wouldn't know they were up other than checking the character screen for active effects.
drinks do not cause the bars to remain visible out of combatEnd the tedious inventory management game.0 -
Uberkull✭✭✭✭✭No, I want buffed magicka, health, and stamina to disappear when out of combat.This is a horrible 'feature' on console. The attribute bars and the ability bars are already to high off the bottom of the screen, they cover your character depending on zoom level. The bars should be moved down at least 1 inch overall.
Then, for what reason should I need to see a 30 minute buff constantly pulsate the attribute bars for the duration of the buff? It's absolutely ridiculous. Make it optional through the menu or remove it completely.
And MOVE the damn bars down to the bottom of the screen....not 2 inches up from the bottom. There is no reason they shouldn't be pegged to the bottom of the screen.Edited by Uberkull on June 24, 2015 9:46PM▬ஜ Seeds of War, Piles of Skulls ஜ▬
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dlepi24✭✭✭✭Yes, I want food-buffed magicka, health, and stamina bars to always remain visible.pecheckler wrote: »pecheckler wrote: »
No, you don't see the buff is up if you're using drinks. The only way to tell is the occasional arrow that goes up on your bars. Regeneration buffs (drinks) don't increase the overall size of the buffs. Seeing as how we don't have buff trackers yet, I think this is a welcomed bonus so you can see when you need to eat/drink again.
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What I mean is that if you were to remove the effect of the bars staying up when buffed, then people using drinks wouldn't know they were up other than checking the character screen for active effects.
drinks do not cause the bars to remain visible out of combat
On console, yes. They do. I just tested it again to make sure. I'm standing in the middle of Stonefalls outside of combat and with my drink buffs active my stam and mag bars are still on screen. It would be rather annoying to not have the bars displayed when you're using a buff. I don't want to waste my time going through my character screens to make sure they are still active. I'd rather just have it displayed.0 -
Tre_775✭✭✭Yes, I want food-buffed magicka, health, and stamina bars to always remain visible.@uberkull wrote: redicilous
I'm usually not a spelling fascist but FFS.
ridiculous
Edited by Tre_775 on June 24, 2015 9:27PM"He was already insane before he left Tamriel. Mad as a box of frogs..."
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pecheckler✭✭✭✭✭No, I want buffed magicka, health, and stamina to disappear when out of combat.I worded this totally wrong. It's obvious people think this pole is a request to have a buff UI component like so many PC version add-ons provide in a minimalist icon. I meant for this to be about the default STOCK magicka/health/stamina bars.End the tedious inventory management game.0
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Uberkull✭✭✭✭✭No, I want buffed magicka, health, and stamina to disappear when out of combat.
I'm usually not a spelling fascist but FFS.
ridiculous
You win grammar ***.
Wait...why is that word bad? Hello...history?Edited by Uberkull on June 24, 2015 9:47PM▬ஜ Seeds of War, Piles of Skulls ஜ▬
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Uberkull✭✭✭✭✭No, I want buffed magicka, health, and stamina to disappear when out of combat.On console this feature actually breaks the minimalistic UI game immersion. Depending on the buff, you have three giant bars up at all times on the screen covering half your character.
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pecheckler✭✭✭✭✭No, I want buffed magicka, health, and stamina to disappear when out of combat.On console this feature actually breaks the minimalistic UI game immersion. Depending on the buff, you have three giant bars up at all times on the screen covering half your character.
I wish I could have written something so succinct and to the point. I would have used a screenshot to point it out but I have 99+ hours of patching to go.End the tedious inventory management game.0 -
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✭Yes, I want food-buffed magicka, health, and stamina bars to always remain visible.Yes keep the bars showing, because it is easier to see if my character still has a food buff rather than scrolling to the character screen."The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
pecheckler✭✭✭✭✭No, I want buffed magicka, health, and stamina to disappear when out of combat.Justice31st wrote: »Yes keep the bars showing, because it is easier to see if my character still has a food buff rather than scrolling to the character screen.
You don't have a problem with gigantic bars covering your character for hours on end? Do you realize that endgame players keep food active at all times?End the tedious inventory management game.0 -
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✭✭This is the solution? All three bars running across the bottom of the screen flashing at you... what's so hard about a little buff icon in the lower right hand corner that about 10 add-ons do already?I AM UPDATING MY PRIVACY POLICY
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✭Yes, I want food-buffed magicka, health, and stamina bars to always remain visible.pecheckler wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Yes keep the bars showing, because it is easier to see if my character still has a food buff rather than scrolling to the character screen.
You don't have a problem with gigantic bars covering your character for hours on end? Do you realize that endgame players keep food active at all times?
No, I already learned to adjust to it just like toggling health bars in the option menu. I would gladly have it replaced by an buff UI, but that was not the intention of your initial post."The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
pecheckler✭✭✭✭✭No, I want buffed magicka, health, and stamina to disappear when out of combat.nimander99 wrote: »This is the solution? All three bars running across the bottom of the screen flashing at you... what's so hard about a little buff icon in the lower right hand corner that about 10 add-ons do already?
Yes exactly. Instead of three GIGANTIC bars on the screen 24/7 we could have a tiny icon with a timer that takes up a fraction of the screen real estate.End the tedious inventory management game.1 -
Locket✭Yes, I want food-buffed magicka, health, and stamina bars to always remain visible.As a console player I can't use addons. I like that there is a visual to remind me that my buffs are still up.0 -
Neirymn✭✭✭✭Yes, I want food-buffed magicka, health, and stamina bars to always remain visible.I voted yes but not sure. lol In fact that's not bothering me at all, it's kinda useless to see this outside of combat but it is not THAT gigantic, I love the minimalistic UI in ESO.
I'd be more bothered if it look like FFXIV UI that takes like 30% or more of my screen with bars, texts, numbers, icons and so on that prevent me for fully enjoying the beauty of the game environment. It's usefull but not necessary to me, that's just stats, I want to be immersed in the world of Tamriel, not in its data...1 -
dlepi24✭✭✭✭Yes, I want food-buffed magicka, health, and stamina bars to always remain visible.pecheckler wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Yes keep the bars showing, because it is easier to see if my character still has a food buff rather than scrolling to the character screen.
You don't have a problem with gigantic bars covering your character for hours on end? Do you realize that endgame players keep food active at all times?
Exactly the point....
We don't want to constantly check the character screen in the middle of a trial just to make sure we still have food/drink buffs up. We want to be able to tell at a glance. I'm not sure what you aren't understanding?1 -
Azalin76✭✭✭Yes, I want food-buffed magicka, health, and stamina bars to always remain visible.I wish they were visible at all times and just had the arrows moving on them when we have food buffs.0
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pecheckler✭✭✭✭✭No, I want buffed magicka, health, and stamina to disappear when out of combat.pecheckler wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Yes keep the bars showing, because it is easier to see if my character still has a food buff rather than scrolling to the character screen.
You don't have a problem with gigantic bars covering your character for hours on end? Do you realize that endgame players keep food active at all times?
Exactly the point....
We don't want to constantly check the character screen in the middle of a trial just to make sure we still have food/drink buffs up. We want to be able to tell at a glance. I'm not sure what you aren't understanding?
Look at the screenshot I added. Am I in a trial? No. Am I in combat? No. Then why do I need to see the bars? Do you see the rest of the UI? There's nothing but a compass. Three giant colored bars are completely out of place. I'm not sure what you aren't understanding?Edited by pecheckler on June 24, 2015 10:58PMEnd the tedious inventory management game.1 -
Tennetty✭Yes, I want food-buffed magicka, health, and stamina bars to always remain visible.Is it possible to have more than one stat buffed by provisions? Like eat a hot dog for health, have a beer for magic, and drink a potion for stamina?0
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✭Yes, I want food-buffed magicka, health, and stamina bars to always remain visible.pecheckler wrote: »pecheckler wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Yes keep the bars showing, because it is easier to see if my character still has a food buff rather than scrolling to the character screen.
You don't have a problem with gigantic bars covering your character for hours on end? Do you realize that endgame players keep food active at all times?
Exactly the point....
We don't want to constantly check the character screen in the middle of a trial just to make sure we still have food/drink buffs up. We want to be able to tell at a glance. I'm not sure what you aren't understanding?
Look at the screenshot I added. Am I in a trial? No. Am I in combat? No. Then why do I need to see the buffs? Do you see the rest of the UI? There's nothing but a compass. Three giant colored bars are completely out of place. I'm not sure what you aren't understanding?
Because atm we are not given any other option to check on how to easily display if we still have food buffs up. Why would you want to get rid of our only means? Having to scroll through character screen every time is a real pain.Edited by Justice31st on June 24, 2015 11:01PM"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
dlepi24✭✭✭✭Yes, I want food-buffed magicka, health, and stamina bars to always remain visible.pecheckler wrote: »pecheckler wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Yes keep the bars showing, because it is easier to see if my character still has a food buff rather than scrolling to the character screen.
You don't have a problem with gigantic bars covering your character for hours on end? Do you realize that endgame players keep food active at all times?
Exactly the point....
We don't want to constantly check the character screen in the middle of a trial just to make sure we still have food/drink buffs up. We want to be able to tell at a glance. I'm not sure what you aren't understanding?
Look at the screenshot I added. Am I in a trial? No. Am I in combat? No. Then why do I need to see the buffs? Do you see the rest of the UI? There's nothing but a compass. Three giant colored bars are completely out of place. I'm not sure what you aren't understanding?
So, what you're saying is you're the guy that's ruining ESO for everyone else? Your immersion is too important for the rest of the community who doesn't care about three bars being shown? Is that what you're saying? How can somebody honestly be bothered by their bars being shown? Unless you're trying to make some fantastic screenshot (in which case you shouldn't be playing on PS4), then I don't understand why it bothers you. This is the price you pay for playing console. You can't modify the look of your game like you can on PC. They have to accommodate the majority of their player base. In case you haven't looked at your own poll (no it's not spelled "pole" like you keep typing), you are the minority.
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pecheckler✭✭✭✭✭No, I want buffed magicka, health, and stamina to disappear when out of combat.Justice31st wrote: »pecheckler wrote: »pecheckler wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Yes keep the bars showing, because it is easier to see if my character still has a food buff rather than scrolling to the character screen.
You don't have a problem with gigantic bars covering your character for hours on end? Do you realize that endgame players keep food active at all times?
Exactly the point....
We don't want to constantly check the character screen in the middle of a trial just to make sure we still have food/drink buffs up. We want to be able to tell at a glance. I'm not sure what you aren't understanding?
Look at the screenshot I added. Am I in a trial? No. Am I in combat? No. Then why do I need to see the buffs? Do you see the rest of the UI? There's nothing but a compass. Three giant colored bars are completely out of place. I'm not sure what you aren't understanding?
Because atm we are not given any other option to check on how to easily display if we still have food buffs up. Why would you want to get rid of our only means? Do you even use food buffs while you are playing?
Having to scroll through character screen every time is a real pain.
I use food buffs at all times. I have hundreds of purple food buffs. For every level range. Thus when I started doing single player story quests on new characters with completely irrelevant bars always present I started to get really pissed. It is an unnecessary UI element when not in combat.End the tedious inventory management game.0 -
Uberkull✭✭✭✭✭No, I want buffed magicka, health, and stamina to disappear when out of combat.pecheckler wrote: »
Lmao....it's almost like they had the intern try and sub in for the lead UI designer who was off on vacation.
That's 3 inches off the bottom of the screen at least. Seriously. And up all the time with food buffs regardless of any setting in Options.
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dlepi24✭✭✭✭Yes, I want food-buffed magicka, health, and stamina bars to always remain visible.pecheckler wrote: »
Lmao....it's almost like they had the intern try and sub in for the lead UI designer who was off on vacation.
That's 3 inches off the bottom of the screen at least. Seriously. And up all the time with food buffs regardless of any setting in Options.
Because, the space below is used to display skills while in combat.... :facepalm:
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Uberkull✭✭✭✭✭No, I want buffed magicka, health, and stamina to disappear when out of combat.pecheckler wrote: »
Lmao....it's almost like they had the intern try and sub in for the lead UI designer who was off on vacation.
That's 3 inches off the bottom of the screen at least. Seriously. And up all the time with food buffs regardless of any setting in Options.
Because, the space below is used to display skills while in combat.... :facepalm:
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