Nope. No dragons in ESO:TU

MissBizz wrote: »

Nope. No dragons in ESO:TU

tisk tisk tisk..

*Adjusts Nerd Glasses*

a bit of lore in Vet City of ash actually points out Daedric Titans as being Transmogrified Dragons under the control of a daedric prince. with molag bal apparently being specifically responsible for most of the visual changes due to a sort of personal preference.

No dragons like the ones in skyrim specifically, at least not that we will encounter.. again lore does state they are around tho.

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Nope. No dragons in ESO:TU

tisk tisk tisk..

*Adjusts Nerd Glasses*

a bit of lore in Vet City of ash actually points out Daedric Titans as being Transmogrified Dragons under the control of a daedric prince. with molag bal apparently being specifically responsible for most of the visual changes due to a sort of personal preference.

No dragons like the ones in skyrim specifically, at least not that we will encounter.. again lore does state they are around tho.

Daedric Titans are not dragons, they are Daedric Titans.

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Nope. No dragons in ESO:TU

tisk tisk tisk..

*Adjusts Nerd Glasses*

a bit of lore in Vet City of ash actually points out Daedric Titans as being Transmogrified Dragons under the control of a daedric prince. with molag bal apparently being specifically responsible for most of the visual changes due to a sort of personal preference.

No dragons like the ones in skyrim specifically, at least not that we will encounter.. again lore does state they are around tho.

Molag Bal has one of these:

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Nope. No dragons in ESO:TU

tisk tisk tisk..

*Adjusts Nerd Glasses*

a bit of lore in Vet City of ash actually points out Daedric Titans as being Transmogrified Dragons under the control of a daedric prince. with molag bal apparently being specifically responsible for most of the visual changes due to a sort of personal preference.

No dragons like the ones in skyrim specifically, at least not that we will encounter.. again lore does state they are around tho.

Daedric Titans are not dragons, they are Daedric Titans.

*Nerd Glasses get knocked off*

ARM DEFENSIVE FLAME CANNONS!

SOME QUOTED STUFF FROM IN GAME QUOTED FROM WIKI SOURCE
here was once the dragon known as Boziikkodstrun, who atempted to fly beyond the borders of Mundus. Though he failed, his valorous effort gained the attention of Molag Bal, who offered him a place of honor in Coldharbour. Molag Bal opened a barrier between the worlds into his realm, and once there, Boziikkodstrun had the privilege of being bound in chains of cold, ebon iron. He was set a place of honor in the nethermost depths of the Tower of Lies, for Molag Bal desired the secrets of the dov's dominance over the mortals. Long was Boziikkodstrun tortured, but uttered not a single sentence. Tired with this, Molag Bal began to slowly consume the dragon's flesh until there was but a skeleton. There, Molag Bal said, "If I cannot have the secrets of the dragons, then I shall make dragons of my own, dragons even mightier than those of Nirn!"
Molag Bal then had the skeleton taken to the Vile Laboratory, where it was infused with the blood of darkness, reviving it as a soulless being. He then had the skeleton improved, forming a bone frame even mightier than its forebears. Once that was complete, Molag Bal had the skeleton plunged into the deepest pool in the Azure Chasm, to give the new creation its brains and brawn. After that, the first Daedric Titan rose from the chasm to serve its master.


FIRE DEFENSIVE FLAME CANNONS!

TECHNICALLY THE SKELETON USED FOR THE FIRST WAS THAT OF A DRAGON, it can be at least considered the first one to actually have been a dragon that was heavily altered.

full reading of the thing you can actually find in game here : http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Daedric_Dossier:_The_Titans

MissBizz wrote: »

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Nope. No dragons in ESO:TU

tisk tisk tisk..

*Adjusts Nerd Glasses*

a bit of lore in Vet City of ash actually points out Daedric Titans as being Transmogrified Dragons under the control of a daedric prince. with molag bal apparently being specifically responsible for most of the visual changes due to a sort of personal preference.

No dragons like the ones in skyrim specifically, at least not that we will encounter.. again lore does state they are around tho.

Daedric Titans are not dragons, they are Daedric Titans.

*Nerd Glasses get knocked off*

ARM DEFENSIVE FLAME CANNONS!

SOME QUOTED STUFF FROM IN GAME QUOTED FROM WIKI SOURCE
here was once the dragon known as Boziikkodstrun, who atempted to fly beyond the borders of Mundus. Though he failed, his valorous effort gained the attention of Molag Bal, who offered him a place of honor in Coldharbour. Molag Bal opened a barrier between the worlds into his realm, and once there, Boziikkodstrun had the privilege of being bound in chains of cold, ebon iron. He was set a place of honor in the nethermost depths of the Tower of Lies, for Molag Bal desired the secrets of the dov's dominance over the mortals. Long was Boziikkodstrun tortured, but uttered not a single sentence. Tired with this, Molag Bal began to slowly consume the dragon's flesh until there was but a skeleton. There, Molag Bal said, "If I cannot have the secrets of the dragons, then I shall make dragons of my own, dragons even mightier than those of Nirn!"
Molag Bal then had the skeleton taken to the Vile Laboratory, where it was infused with the blood of darkness, reviving it as a soulless being. He then had the skeleton improved, forming a bone frame even mightier than its forebears. Once that was complete, Molag Bal had the skeleton plunged into the deepest pool in the Azure Chasm, to give the new creation its brains and brawn. After that, the first Daedric Titan rose from the chasm to serve its master.


FIRE DEFENSIVE FLAME CANNONS!

TECHNICALLY THE SKELETON USED FOR THE FIRST WAS THAT OF A DRAGON, it can be at least considered the first one to actually have been a dragon that was heavily altered.

full reading of the thing you can actually find in game here : http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Daedric_Dossier:_The_Titans

Alright. So... essentially the dragon was killed as he was reborn as.. wait for it... NOT a dragon, but a Daedric Titan. Therefore.. he is no longer a dragon. Maybe an ancestor, I'd go for that.. but not a dragon.

Sorry if the OP has a different idea of a dragon then me, but I consider a dragon a dragon, not a dragon that was turned into a new type of monster.

That would be like calling humans still monkeys. (if that's what you believe happened)

[EDIT] Alright, I'll go for this. There is no true dragon in ESO... but there is a monster that has a dragon skeleton. Can we agree to disagree?

*puts back on glasses, which are now shaped like dragons*

im a total dragon junkie =P

Daedric Titans were more or less Made from dragons, so i consider them the closest we can get to fighting them..

and being even nerdyier, the ones in Skyrim i still kind of dont consider dragons, because i consider a dragon to have 6 limbs =P. most would consider the design for dragons in skyrim as a "Wyvern"

so... i personally prefer the Titan dragon to the skyrim Dragon..

i mean both breathe fire and fly and are awesome.... so why not just call the titans dragons? they really basically are dragons in design after all, and we get a bit a (tacked on) lore that even links them to the dragons in skyrim.

in the end, its a mythological creature, so its entirely up to the artst and those who interpret it. But dont tell me you cant at least consider Daedric Titans to be more or less Dragons ultimately in terms of their design. Demonic Dragons styled like molag bal.

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Nope. No dragons in ESO:TU

tisk tisk tisk..

*Adjusts Nerd Glasses*

a bit of lore in Vet City of ash actually points out Daedric Titans as being Transmogrified Dragons under the control of a daedric prince. with molag bal apparently being specifically responsible for most of the visual changes due to a sort of personal preference.

No dragons like the ones in skyrim specifically, at least not that we will encounter.. again lore does state they are around tho.

Daedric Titans are not dragons, they are Daedric Titans.

*Nerd Glasses get knocked off*

ARM DEFENSIVE FLAME CANNONS!

SOME QUOTED STUFF FROM IN GAME QUOTED FROM WIKI SOURCE
here was once the dragon known as Boziikkodstrun, who atempted to fly beyond the borders of Mundus. Though he failed, his valorous effort gained the attention of Molag Bal, who offered him a place of honor in Coldharbour. Molag Bal opened a barrier between the worlds into his realm, and once there, Boziikkodstrun had the privilege of being bound in chains of cold, ebon iron. He was set a place of honor in the nethermost depths of the Tower of Lies, for Molag Bal desired the secrets of the dov's dominance over the mortals. Long was Boziikkodstrun tortured, but uttered not a single sentence. Tired with this, Molag Bal began to slowly consume the dragon's flesh until there was but a skeleton. There, Molag Bal said, "If I cannot have the secrets of the dragons, then I shall make dragons of my own, dragons even mightier than those of Nirn!"
Molag Bal then had the skeleton taken to the Vile Laboratory, where it was infused with the blood of darkness, reviving it as a soulless being. He then had the skeleton improved, forming a bone frame even mightier than its forebears. Once that was complete, Molag Bal had the skeleton plunged into the deepest pool in the Azure Chasm, to give the new creation its brains and brawn. After that, the first Daedric Titan rose from the chasm to serve its master.


FIRE DEFENSIVE FLAME CANNONS!

TECHNICALLY THE SKELETON USED FOR THE FIRST WAS THAT OF A DRAGON, it can be at least considered the first one to actually have been a dragon that was heavily altered.

full reading of the thing you can actually find in game here : http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Daedric_Dossier:_The_Titans

Alright. So... essentially the dragon was killed as he was reborn as.. wait for it... NOT a dragon, but a Daedric Titan. Therefore.. he is no longer a dragon. Maybe an ancestor, I'd go for that.. but not a dragon.

Sorry if the OP has a different idea of a dragon then me, but I consider a dragon a dragon, not a dragon that was turned into a new type of monster.

That would be like calling humans still monkeys. (if that's what you believe happened)

[EDIT] Alright, I'll go for this. There is no true dragon in ESO... but there is a monster that has a dragon skeleton. Can we agree to disagree?

*puts back on glasses, which are now shaped like dragons*

im a total dragon junkie =P

Daedric Titans were more or less Made from dragons, so i consider them the closest we can get to fighting them..

and being even nerdyier, the ones in Skyrim i still kind of dont consider dragons, because i consider a dragon to have 6 limbs =P. most would consider the design for dragons in skyrim as a "Wyvern"

so... i personally prefer the Titan dragon to the skyrim Dragon..

i mean both breathe fire and fly and are awesome.... so why not just call the titans dragons? they really basically are dragons in design after all, and we get a bit a (tacked on) lore that even links them to the dragons in skyrim.

in the end, its a mythological creature, so its entirely up to the artst and those who interpret it. But dont tell me you cant at least consider Daedric Titans to be more or less Dragons ultimately in terms of their design. Demonic Dragons styled like molag bal.

You have thrown out some very valid points. I can agree They do have wings and breathe fire, so yes, I might be able to budge a bit So yes, depending OP in what you consider a dragon. There is dragons

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Nope. No dragons in ESO:TU

tisk tisk tisk..

*Adjusts Nerd Glasses*

a bit of lore in Vet City of ash actually points out Daedric Titans as being Transmogrified Dragons under the control of a daedric prince. with molag bal apparently being specifically responsible for most of the visual changes due to a sort of personal preference.

No dragons like the ones in skyrim specifically, at least not that we will encounter.. again lore does state they are around tho.

Daedric Titans are not dragons, they are Daedric Titans.

*Nerd Glasses get knocked off*

ARM DEFENSIVE FLAME CANNONS!

SOME QUOTED STUFF FROM IN GAME QUOTED FROM WIKI SOURCE
here was once the dragon known as Boziikkodstrun, who atempted to fly beyond the borders of Mundus. Though he failed, his valorous effort gained the attention of Molag Bal, who offered him a place of honor in Coldharbour. Molag Bal opened a barrier between the worlds into his realm, and once there, Boziikkodstrun had the privilege of being bound in chains of cold, ebon iron. He was set a place of honor in the nethermost depths of the Tower of Lies, for Molag Bal desired the secrets of the dov's dominance over the mortals. Long was Boziikkodstrun tortured, but uttered not a single sentence. Tired with this, Molag Bal began to slowly consume the dragon's flesh until there was but a skeleton. There, Molag Bal said, "If I cannot have the secrets of the dragons, then I shall make dragons of my own, dragons even mightier than those of Nirn!"
Molag Bal then had the skeleton taken to the Vile Laboratory, where it was infused with the blood of darkness, reviving it as a soulless being. He then had the skeleton improved, forming a bone frame even mightier than its forebears. Once that was complete, Molag Bal had the skeleton plunged into the deepest pool in the Azure Chasm, to give the new creation its brains and brawn. After that, the first Daedric Titan rose from the chasm to serve its master.


FIRE DEFENSIVE FLAME CANNONS!

TECHNICALLY THE SKELETON USED FOR THE FIRST WAS THAT OF A DRAGON, it can be at least considered the first one to actually have been a dragon that was heavily altered.

full reading of the thing you can actually find in game here : http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Daedric_Dossier:_The_Titans

Alright. So... essentially the dragon was killed as he was reborn as.. wait for it... NOT a dragon, but a Daedric Titan. Therefore.. he is no longer a dragon. Maybe an ancestor, I'd go for that.. but not a dragon.

Sorry if the OP has a different idea of a dragon then me, but I consider a dragon a dragon, not a dragon that was turned into a new type of monster.

That would be like calling humans still monkeys. (if that's what you believe happened)

[EDIT] Alright, I'll go for this. There is no true dragon in ESO... but there is a monster that has a dragon skeleton. Can we agree to disagree?

*puts back on glasses, which are now shaped like dragons*

im a total dragon junkie =P

Daedric Titans were more or less Made from dragons, so i consider them the closest we can get to fighting them..

and being even nerdyier, the ones in Skyrim i still kind of dont consider dragons, because i consider a dragon to have 6 limbs =P. most would consider the design for dragons in skyrim as a "Wyvern"

so... i personally prefer the Titan dragon to the skyrim Dragon..

i mean both breathe fire and fly and are awesome.... so why not just call the titans dragons? they really basically are dragons in design after all, and we get a bit a (tacked on) lore that even links them to the dragons in skyrim.

in the end, its a mythological creature, so its entirely up to the artst and those who interpret it. But dont tell me you cant at least consider Daedric Titans to be more or less Dragons ultimately in terms of their design. Demonic Dragons styled like molag bal.

Love this guy ^^^

Crap. Total Forum Fail.

What I meant to say is I was going to play the Wyvern Card but you beat me to it.

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Vigarr wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

/Sigh Last time there are no dragons in ESO it has been said so many times even by ZoS I think when they did the re quake con live demo in 2013 they even said no dragons. Why? Cause ESO takes place a few hundred years after the dragon war in Skyrim this is long after the dragon cult dies and mirrak is in Aporcripha and Alduin is in the future bugging the Dragonborn and most of the dragons have died or fled. They only dragon we could ever see in ESO is Parthanaax at the throat of the world in Skyrim.

I agree that we probably won't see dragons in ESO but there's a couple more dragons known to be alive at this time.

I could see a small dragon mount selling in the crown store for 15,000 crowns because lore be damned when there's money to be made

That would be absolutely terrible. Having said that, having one of these as a pet would be lore-firendly:

We even know that if you speak the right language they can be somewhat tamed!

There are "unnamed" random dragons on others continents, but surely not many.

However, lore be damned, I just want to stab the sh*t outta them and pillage all the sweet loots. I need a new should made from dragon bone ;D

MissBizz wrote: »

I still say no dragons... they are titans... not dragons. hehe.

What you say doesn't matter compare to the lore.

UrQuan wrote: »

Nope. Dragons are virtually extinct at this point in Tamriel's history.

@UrQuan I've seen you in other threads that have thoroughly debunked the whole dragons are extinct in the 2nd era and I know you read what I read...

Dragons are actively hunted in the 2nd Era, now ill find the link... http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragons

The Disappearance of the Dragons[edit]

Dragons became more elusive after losing their grip on power.[23] Their numbers dwindled over the years due to many causes: their population in Akavir was wiped out by the Tsaesci, who also brought their onslaught to Tamriel, and the dragons in Vvardenfell were overrun by invading cliff racers.[4] The Akaviri Dragonguard and its successor, the Blades, along with other heroes, hunted dragons and their followers throughout the eras until dragons were nearly extinct.[16][22][24] Tiber Septim offered those who remained protection in return for their fealty.[2] Despite his pledge, almost all known wild dragons were killed or driven off, disappearing from sight in Tamriel.[22][2]

Some sources claim that all dragons disappeared at once, being devoured by a dragon king or absorbed by Tiber Septim when he ascended to godhood.[2] Many held the belief that the dragons were extinct.[9] This was not true, as live dragons continued to exist throughout the Third and early Fourth Era. Nomads in the Alik'r Desert frequently spoke of "Great Wyrms" inhabiting its vast wastes, although these claims were never independently confirmed.[25] The Akatosh Chantry hold dragons as their holy symbol, and keep tamed dragons in their "sacred grove".[26][21] Many ancient legends tell of dragons making deals with other races to protect themselves.[22][27][28] According to Brarilu Theran, at least one dragon is known to have laired in the smoking ruins of Vvardenfell after the Red Year, long after the cliff racers were driven off by Saint Jiub.[27]


The above is just one example of dragons existing during game time, there are MANY MANY more game lore books that touch on specific dragons being interacted with during the 2nd Era. Discussion Over