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Well in pvp there is a way to reduce/avoid the lag.
But I dont even try to farm AP when I'm solo dude. Just try to get fun and nice outnumbered fights, I dont farm ressources and I dont even wait for ticks the rare times I defend a ressource/keep. In raids of 10-12 we're usually around 40-50k AP/hour over several hours + we dont make the server lag + its much more interesting than spamming 2 buttons and one ult. But true, it might requires too much skill for you.You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.
Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.
50k/6h when youre solo? I understand how comes you need such big group to get AP lol... solo I'm usually around 20-30k AP/hour. Man you suck hard. Like very hard.
Yep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.
But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...
kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.
Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.
Well we re getting everynight around 40-50k ap/hour with a 10-12 man group without lagging everybody else out.
So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »What disgusts me about your type-kind of lag-zerg-fest is the fact that in order for you to get AP a whole server must suffer and lag. I certainly acknowledge the fact that primarily its ZoS's fault with the inability of the server's to handle big fights, but the persistence of guilds like yours running around with 50 man trains is something that amazes me. And at the same time I honestly feel sad about you because i think deep down you know that you would have been obliterated against a decent group if there was no lag. But anyway keep up the good work...eh sry the good lag
Let's try? Make this group and let's find another free compain out of prime-time where you will obliterate our raid without lags. With DA it was Haderus pretty much in prime-time, so it became full fast. It was just not the best choise of us for minimum laggs. We are going to make this in a format of every other week event between those who want if there are some.
10-12 people with pugs is better than 20-24 with pugs.
It's really funny how lame that fight was, your group didn't stop spamming their aoe key even when the enemy raid was dead, every one stayed in the enemy ultimates, you just ran head on into their group, it's the most pathetic attempt of PvP I've seen in a long time. And you *** everyone off by lagging everything.
Maybe when your train is alone, you don't lag, but when you collide two idiotic trains like that, the server dies.
Also next time please increase the size of your UI, I was having trouble reading your healthbars
1-2 people with pugs is much better then 10-12! Go solo PvP to save the server!
Actually I love my UI, it reminds me about some other MMO we all know.
Good for you. And I can't enjoy any type of PvP. 2 buttons or 20 buttons doesn't matter. In Cyrodiil I need nothing more then AP.
And youre ready to make the server laggs out and destroy everybody's fun only for your AP that will serve a little bit in PvE. Good to hear.
Pugs, small groups and regular zergs don't cause lag except massive 3-way sieges in prime times. It's the stack&spam playstyle(exact thing in your video) causes lag, not too strict to the size of group, numbers just makes it worse.So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!
This is pathetic. Selfish. Disgusting. Shame on ZOS for allowing this shiet. Your actions cause server suffer badly you dumb. Farm your AP in normal way like everyone elseYep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.
But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...
I need no PvP at all. I am a PvE player forced by ZOS to farm AP for those PvP line skills that can be usefull in PvE and those sets like Cyrodiil Light, etc, which are MUST HAVE in PvE now.
Wow, insults when everything else fails. I farm my AP in leagal way with high efficiency. You are not my boss to tell me that I should do it other way.
Yeah! I'm pure evil! Report me! Go on, save you planet of people used to look at the world through rose-colored glasses!
Well how would you like it, when you could not play your trials because it's laggy as *** because we want to farm pve stuff (and would lag out the server while doing so)?
Man, it's already there. I guess you've never been in trials in prime-time, where mob packs lagging? And even bosses stack and do his abilities after in x2 speed? When you use Nova and it just dissapears, so you get no mitigation that causes wipe. I can show you then:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzpHfwSwBkE
PvPers always cry louder like all world should spin around them.
Regarding 12v12 I would be up for it, have to see what the other guild members think tho.- EU - Raid Leader of Banana Zerg Squad
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Well in pvp there is a way to reduce/avoid the lag.
But I dont even try to farm AP when I'm solo dude. Just try to get fun and nice outnumbered fights, I dont farm ressources and I dont even wait for ticks the rare times I defend a ressource/keep. In raids of 10-12 we're usually around 40-50k AP/hour over several hours + we dont make the server lag + its much more interesting than spamming 2 buttons and one ult. But true, it might requires too much skill for you.You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.
Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.
50k/6h when youre solo? I understand how comes you need such big group to get AP lol... solo I'm usually around 20-30k AP/hour. Man you suck hard. Like very hard.
Yep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.
But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.
Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.
Well we re getting everynight around 40-50k ap/hour with a 10-12 man group without lagging everybody else out.
So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »What disgusts me about your type-kind of lag-zerg-fest is the fact that in order for you to get AP a whole server must suffer and lag. I certainly acknowledge the fact that primarily its ZoS's fault with the inability of the server's to handle big fights, but the persistence of guilds like yours running around with 50 man trains is something that amazes me. And at the same time I honestly feel sad about you because i think deep down you know that you would have been obliterated against a decent group if there was no lag. But anyway keep up the good work...eh sry the good lag
Let's try? Make this group and let's find another free compain out of prime-time where you will obliterate our raid without lags. With DA it was Haderus pretty much in prime-time, so it became full fast. It was just not the best choise of us for minimum laggs. We are going to make this in a format of every other week event between those who want if there are some.
10-12 people with pugs is better than 20-24 with pugs.
It's really funny how lame that fight was, your group didn't stop spamming their aoe key even when the enemy raid was dead, every one stayed in the enemy ultimates, you just ran head on into their group, it's the most pathetic attempt of PvP I've seen in a long time. And you *** everyone off by lagging everything.
Maybe when your train is alone, you don't lag, but when you collide two idiotic trains like that, the server dies.
Also next time please increase the size of your UI, I was having trouble reading your healthbars
1-2 people with pugs is much better then 10-12! Go solo PvP to save the server!
Actually I love my UI, it reminds me about some other MMO we all know.
Good for you. And I can't enjoy any type of PvP. 2 buttons or 20 buttons doesn't matter. In Cyrodiil I need nothing more then AP.
And youre ready to make the server laggs out and destroy everybody's fun only for your AP that will serve a little bit in PvE. Good to hear.
Pugs, small groups and regular zergs don't cause lag except massive 3-way sieges in prime times. It's the stack&spam playstyle(exact thing in your video) causes lag, not too strict to the size of group, numbers just makes it worse.So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!
This is pathetic. Selfish. Disgusting. Shame on ZOS for allowing this shiet. Your actions cause server suffer badly you dumb. Farm your AP in normal way like everyone elseYep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.
But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...
I need no PvP at all. I am a PvE player forced by ZOS to farm AP for those PvP line skills that can be usefull in PvE and those sets like Cyrodiil Light, etc, which are MUST HAVE in PvE now.
Wow, insults when everything else fails. I farm my AP in leagal way with high efficiency. You are not my boss to tell me that I should do it other way.
Yeah! I'm pure evil! Report me! Go on, save you planet of people used to look at the world through rose-colored glasses!
Well how would you like it, when you could not play your trials because it's laggy as *** because we want to farm pve stuff (and would lag out the server while doing so)?
Man, it's already there. I guess you've never been in trials in prime-time, where mob packs lagging? And even bosses stack and do his abilities after in x2 speed? When you use Nova and it just dissapears, so you get no mitigation that causes wipe. I can show you then:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzpHfwSwBkE
PvPers always cry louder like all world should spin around them.
Regarding 12v12 I would be up for it, have to see what the other guild members think tho.
Ofc, looking for your desision. You may contact me or our PvP Raid Leader in game (@Fecius or @Zaban) after to discuss our opportunities.
As for not playing zerg-PvP. Man, it's an illusion of a solution. Let's just imagine we have a Cyrodiil without any single blob but with queues. Eventually all would spread up to 3-5 spots on the map for fights, cause they can see those swords there. And this would strike perfomance in those places same way like there would be a farmin blob, and you know that.
My example from PvE should show you, that the laggs are made by ammount of players in same locations and not their consentration in one point. In prime time lot's of ppl farming trials, so we have overcrowded trial/vet dungeon/etc server and it causes laggs itself. You can see this in video, only 12ppl and still perfomance issures cause same time hundreds more players makes there runs in other mirrors. Yes, ppl can continue refuse any other information and blame zergs, cause it's easy to find a single enemy and put all problems on his head, but it's simply not the main reason. We should accept that the problem can be more complex then we can see from our seats.Edited by Fecius on June 8, 2015 10:37AM- Looking for Progress PvE Guild!
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As someone who pvps a lot I have never encountered real lag without two raid groups colliding somewhere. Note that the whole server will lag, no matter if you are close or not.
Well in pvp there is a way to reduce/avoid the lag.
But I dont even try to farm AP when I'm solo dude. Just try to get fun and nice outnumbered fights, I dont farm ressources and I dont even wait for ticks the rare times I defend a ressource/keep. In raids of 10-12 we're usually around 40-50k AP/hour over several hours + we dont make the server lag + its much more interesting than spamming 2 buttons and one ult. But true, it might requires too much skill for you.You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.
Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.
50k/6h when youre solo? I understand how comes you need such big group to get AP lol... solo I'm usually around 20-30k AP/hour. Man you suck hard. Like very hard.
Yep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.
But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.
Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.
Well we re getting everynight around 40-50k ap/hour with a 10-12 man group without lagging everybody else out.
So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »What disgusts me about your type-kind of lag-zerg-fest is the fact that in order for you to get AP a whole server must suffer and lag. I certainly acknowledge the fact that primarily its ZoS's fault with the inability of the server's to handle big fights, but the persistence of guilds like yours running around with 50 man trains is something that amazes me. And at the same time I honestly feel sad about you because i think deep down you know that you would have been obliterated against a decent group if there was no lag. But anyway keep up the good work...eh sry the good lag
Let's try? Make this group and let's find another free compain out of prime-time where you will obliterate our raid without lags. With DA it was Haderus pretty much in prime-time, so it became full fast. It was just not the best choise of us for minimum laggs. We are going to make this in a format of every other week event between those who want if there are some.
10-12 people with pugs is better than 20-24 with pugs.
It's really funny how lame that fight was, your group didn't stop spamming their aoe key even when the enemy raid was dead, every one stayed in the enemy ultimates, you just ran head on into their group, it's the most pathetic attempt of PvP I've seen in a long time. And you *** everyone off by lagging everything.
Maybe when your train is alone, you don't lag, but when you collide two idiotic trains like that, the server dies.
Also next time please increase the size of your UI, I was having trouble reading your healthbars
1-2 people with pugs is much better then 10-12! Go solo PvP to save the server!
Actually I love my UI, it reminds me about some other MMO we all know.
Good for you. And I can't enjoy any type of PvP. 2 buttons or 20 buttons doesn't matter. In Cyrodiil I need nothing more then AP.
And youre ready to make the server laggs out and destroy everybody's fun only for your AP that will serve a little bit in PvE. Good to hear.
Pugs, small groups and regular zergs don't cause lag except massive 3-way sieges in prime times. It's the stack&spam playstyle(exact thing in your video) causes lag, not too strict to the size of group, numbers just makes it worse.So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!
This is pathetic. Selfish. Disgusting. Shame on ZOS for allowing this shiet. Your actions cause server suffer badly you dumb. Farm your AP in normal way like everyone elseYep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.
But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...
I need no PvP at all. I am a PvE player forced by ZOS to farm AP for those PvP line skills that can be usefull in PvE and those sets like Cyrodiil Light, etc, which are MUST HAVE in PvE now.
Wow, insults when everything else fails. I farm my AP in leagal way with high efficiency. You are not my boss to tell me that I should do it other way.
Yeah! I'm pure evil! Report me! Go on, save you planet of people used to look at the world through rose-colored glasses!
Well how would you like it, when you could not play your trials because it's laggy as *** because we want to farm pve stuff (and would lag out the server while doing so)?
Man, it's already there. I guess you've never been in trials in prime-time, where mob packs lagging? And even bosses stack and do his abilities after in x2 speed? When you use Nova and it just dissapears, so you get no mitigation that causes wipe. I can show you then:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzpHfwSwBkE
PvPers always cry louder like all world should spin around them.
Regarding 12v12 I would be up for it, have to see what the other guild members think tho.
Ofc, looking for your desision. You may contact me or our PvP Raid Leader in game (@Fecius or @Zabania) after to discuss our opportunities.
As for not playing zerg-PvP. Man, it's an illusion of a solution. Let's just imagine we have a Cyrodiil without any single blob but with queues. Eventually all would spread up to 3-5 spots on the map for fights, cause they can see those swords there. And this would strike perfomance in those places same way like there would be a farmin blob, and you know that.
My example from PvE should show you, that the laggs are made by ammount of players in same locations and not their consentration in one point. In prime time lot's of ppl farming trials, so we have overcrowded trial/vet dungeon/etc server and it causes laggs itself. You can see this in video, only 12ppl and still perfomance issures cause same time hundreds more players makes there runs in other mirrors. Yes, ppl can continue refuse any other information and blame zergs, cause it's the easy to find and a single enemy and put all problems on his head, but it's simply not the main reason. Accept that the problem can be more complex then we can see from our seats.
Try to do a 24v24 with no stacking and no AoE and see if you will lag out not. Because that's how randoms will fight. It might still lag without full raid stacking but it would be way lessEdited by Sanct16 on June 8, 2015 10:40AM- EU - Raid Leader of Banana Zerg Squad
AD | AR 50 | Sanct Fir'eheal | ex Mana DK @31.10.2015
EP | AR 50 | Sanctosaurus | Mana NB
AD | AR 44 | rekt ya | Mana NB
AD | AR 41 | Sanct Thunderstorm | Mana Sorc
EP | AR 36 | S'na'ct | Mana NB {NA}
AD | AR 29 | Captain Full Fist| Stam DK
AD | AR 29 | Sanct The Dark Phoenix| Stam Sorc
EP | AR 16 | Horny Sanct | Stam Warden
EP | AR 16 | Sánct Bánáná Sláyér | Mana DK
DC | AR 13 | ad worst faction eu | Stam Sorc
DC | AR 13 | Lagendary Sanct | Mana NB
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✭✭10-12ppl group:
- ~60k Ap per hour as long as a raid like yours doesn't lag out everything
- challenging and more fun than pressing two buttons. Warning: individual skill needed.
- you'd get better in PvP each time you're doing it, since much more relays on yourself as player, not on the amount of people.
- worth posting videos about it
How can you be proud of that? Seriously, even my dog could take his paws and press two buttons.
Mass PvP, that's something different. Blobbing up and bombing each other is not the Mass PvP we should have.
Anyway, have fun doing it your way and get your vigor fast. Hopefully one mindless zergling less.R.I.P Dawnbreaker / Auriel´s Bow
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As someone who pvps a lot I have never encountered real lag without two raid groups colliding somewhere. Note that the whole server will lag, no matter if you are close or not.
Well in pvp there is a way to reduce/avoid the lag.
But I dont even try to farm AP when I'm solo dude. Just try to get fun and nice outnumbered fights, I dont farm ressources and I dont even wait for ticks the rare times I defend a ressource/keep. In raids of 10-12 we're usually around 40-50k AP/hour over several hours + we dont make the server lag + its much more interesting than spamming 2 buttons and one ult. But true, it might requires too much skill for you.You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.
Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.
50k/6h when youre solo? I understand how comes you need such big group to get AP lol... solo I'm usually around 20-30k AP/hour. Man you suck hard. Like very hard.
Yep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.
But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.
Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.
Well we re getting everynight around 40-50k ap/hour with a 10-12 man group without lagging everybody else out.
So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »What disgusts me about your type-kind of lag-zerg-fest is the fact that in order for you to get AP a whole server must suffer and lag. I certainly acknowledge the fact that primarily its ZoS's fault with the inability of the server's to handle big fights, but the persistence of guilds like yours running around with 50 man trains is something that amazes me. And at the same time I honestly feel sad about you because i think deep down you know that you would have been obliterated against a decent group if there was no lag. But anyway keep up the good work...eh sry the good lag
Let's try? Make this group and let's find another free compain out of prime-time where you will obliterate our raid without lags. With DA it was Haderus pretty much in prime-time, so it became full fast. It was just not the best choise of us for minimum laggs. We are going to make this in a format of every other week event between those who want if there are some.
10-12 people with pugs is better than 20-24 with pugs.
It's really funny how lame that fight was, your group didn't stop spamming their aoe key even when the enemy raid was dead, every one stayed in the enemy ultimates, you just ran head on into their group, it's the most pathetic attempt of PvP I've seen in a long time. And you *** everyone off by lagging everything.
Maybe when your train is alone, you don't lag, but when you collide two idiotic trains like that, the server dies.
Also next time please increase the size of your UI, I was having trouble reading your healthbars
1-2 people with pugs is much better then 10-12! Go solo PvP to save the server!
Actually I love my UI, it reminds me about some other MMO we all know.
Good for you. And I can't enjoy any type of PvP. 2 buttons or 20 buttons doesn't matter. In Cyrodiil I need nothing more then AP.
And youre ready to make the server laggs out and destroy everybody's fun only for your AP that will serve a little bit in PvE. Good to hear.
Pugs, small groups and regular zergs don't cause lag except massive 3-way sieges in prime times. It's the stack&spam playstyle(exact thing in your video) causes lag, not too strict to the size of group, numbers just makes it worse.So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!
This is pathetic. Selfish. Disgusting. Shame on ZOS for allowing this shiet. Your actions cause server suffer badly you dumb. Farm your AP in normal way like everyone elseYep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.
But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...
I need no PvP at all. I am a PvE player forced by ZOS to farm AP for those PvP line skills that can be usefull in PvE and those sets like Cyrodiil Light, etc, which are MUST HAVE in PvE now.
Wow, insults when everything else fails. I farm my AP in leagal way with high efficiency. You are not my boss to tell me that I should do it other way.
Yeah! I'm pure evil! Report me! Go on, save you planet of people used to look at the world through rose-colored glasses!
Well how would you like it, when you could not play your trials because it's laggy as *** because we want to farm pve stuff (and would lag out the server while doing so)?
Man, it's already there. I guess you've never been in trials in prime-time, where mob packs lagging? And even bosses stack and do his abilities after in x2 speed? When you use Nova and it just dissapears, so you get no mitigation that causes wipe. I can show you then:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzpHfwSwBkE
PvPers always cry louder like all world should spin around them.
Regarding 12v12 I would be up for it, have to see what the other guild members think tho.
Ofc, looking for your desision. You may contact me or our PvP Raid Leader in game (@Fecius or @Zabania) after to discuss our opportunities.
As for not playing zerg-PvP. Man, it's an illusion of a solution. Let's just imagine we have a Cyrodiil without any single blob but with queues. Eventually all would spread up to 3-5 spots on the map for fights, cause they can see those swords there. And this would strike perfomance in those places same way like there would be a farmin blob, and you know that.
My example from PvE should show you, that the laggs are made by ammount of players in same locations and not their consentration in one point. In prime time lot's of ppl farming trials, so we have overcrowded trial/vet dungeon/etc server and it causes laggs itself. You can see this in video, only 12ppl and still perfomance issures cause same time hundreds more players makes there runs in other mirrors. Yes, ppl can continue refuse any other information and blame zergs, cause it's the easy to find and a single enemy and put all problems on his head, but it's simply not the main reason. Accept that the problem can be more complex then we can see from our seats.
Try to do a 24v24 with no stacking and no AoE and see if you will lag out not. Because that's how randoms will fight. It might still lag without full raid stacking but it would be way less
^This quote exactly.
Whatever man.. This is the mentality of lagtrains. Be so proud and continue to do your work on turning PvP into a rotten stinky PoS hand in hand with Zeni. It seems it's too much to ask lagfree pvp for everyone and have some freaking fun.QuadroTony wrote: »Edited by Soris on June 8, 2015 9:37PMWelkynd [Templar/AD/EU]0 -
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✭The display of tactics in this video make me want to kill myself.AbraXuS
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what's your in-game name and what guild are you in?QuadroTony wrote: »i like your continuous butthurt
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kkravaritieb17_ESO✭✭✭✭QuadroTony wrote: »i like your continuous butthurt
continue pls
Theres no butthurt feeling at all. If the rest of the BS members agree we would gladly do a 12vs12. As long as theres no unplayable lag involved i am glad to fight you.
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kkravaritieb17_ESO✭✭✭✭QuadroTony wrote: »i like your continuous butthurt
continue pls
And plz refrain from comments like butthurt if you dont have a clue what you re talking about. Just for future reference.
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I can only assume youre a child with the kind of responses you re giving but anyway. Go away plz and let the adults speak.
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What's your in-game name? I like to know who I am talking to.QuadroTony wrote: »swat+iddqd
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What's your in-game name? I like to know who I am talking to.QuadroTony wrote: »swat+iddqd
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Its @QuadroTony ...some pve dude..who has no clue whats going on here.
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✭AbraXuSeXile wrote: »The display of tactics in this video make me want to kill myself.
It's a GvG so it's not like there have to be many tactics involved. It's about getting in and using your skills it's not really about strategy. It's a premade raid where the interesting part is how you organize your raid not the fight itself. What we can see is that Aetherius Eight is so much better than their opponents (who are not even using immovable) and that's all we can see. Whether this lags the server or if it's pretty bad gameplay I don't know and it's not the point. It's just two raids making a GvG and it's about seeing who is better than the other. It's not about saying zerg is good or whatever assumptions some people are making in this thread.Edited by Sotha_Sil on June 8, 2015 11:26AMRestoration is a perfectly valid school of magic, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise! - Spells and incantations for those with the talent to cast them!2 -
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What's your in-game name? I like to know who I am talking to.QuadroTony wrote: »swat+iddqd
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✭AbraXuSeXile wrote: »The display of tactics in this video make me want to kill myself.
It's a GvG so it's not like there have to be many tactics involved. It's about getting in and using your skills it's not really about strategy. It's a premade raid where the interesting part is how you organize your raid not the fight itself. What we can see is that Aetherius Eight is so much better than their opponents (who are not even using immovable) and that's all we can see. Whether this lags the server or if it's pretty bad gameplay I don't know and it's not the point. It's just two raids making a GvG and it's about seeing who is better than the other. It's not about saying zerg is good or whatever assumptions some people are making in this thread.
I actually meant as in real tactics, for instance staying stationary and standing in a like 4 banners.AbraXuS
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✭AbraXuSeXile wrote: »I actually meant as in real tactics, for instance staying stationary and standing in a like 4 banners.
Well it's stupid I agree and you can see the damage on health bars but barrier seems to mitigate it close enough. I guess if they are unmatched by any other raid at the moment they won't change the way they stand and it seems that the damage output they get from standing in the zones is worth it.
I honestly wonder if there are any other raids like that still active in ESO that would be a challenge for them. Most of PvP guilds have left.Edited by Sotha_Sil on June 8, 2015 11:44AMRestoration is a perfectly valid school of magic, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise! - Spells and incantations for those with the talent to cast them!0 -
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Wait, you can move out of enemy ultimates?AbraXuSeXile wrote: »AbraXuSeXile wrote: »The display of tactics in this video make me want to kill myself.
It's a GvG so it's not like there have to be many tactics involved. It's about getting in and using your skills it's not really about strategy. It's a premade raid where the interesting part is how you organize your raid not the fight itself. What we can see is that Aetherius Eight is so much better than their opponents (who are not even using immovable) and that's all we can see. Whether this lags the server or if it's pretty bad gameplay I don't know and it's not the point. It's just two raids making a GvG and it's about seeing who is better than the other. It's not about saying zerg is good or whatever assumptions some people are making in this thread.
I actually meant as in real tactics, for instance staying stationary and standing in a like 4 banners.Edited by Sanct16 on June 8, 2015 11:42AM- EU - Raid Leader of Banana Zerg Squad
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Wait, you can move out of enemy ultimates?AbraXuSeXile wrote: »AbraXuSeXile wrote: »The display of tactics in this video make me want to kill myself.
It's a GvG so it's not like there have to be many tactics involved. It's about getting in and using your skills it's not really about strategy. It's a premade raid where the interesting part is how you organize your raid not the fight itself. What we can see is that Aetherius Eight is so much better than their opponents (who are not even using immovable) and that's all we can see. Whether this lags the server or if it's pretty bad gameplay I don't know and it's not the point. It's just two raids making a GvG and it's about seeing who is better than the other. It's not about saying zerg is good or whatever assumptions some people are making in this thread.
I actually meant as in real tactics, for instance staying stationary and standing in a like 4 banners.
Y but dont tell it elsewhere...its advanced small group tactics
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Wait, you can move out of enemy ultimates?AbraXuSeXile wrote: »AbraXuSeXile wrote: »The display of tactics in this video make me want to kill myself.
It's a GvG so it's not like there have to be many tactics involved. It's about getting in and using your skills it's not really about strategy. It's a premade raid where the interesting part is how you organize your raid not the fight itself. What we can see is that Aetherius Eight is so much better than their opponents (who are not even using immovable) and that's all we can see. Whether this lags the server or if it's pretty bad gameplay I don't know and it's not the point. It's just two raids making a GvG and it's about seeing who is better than the other. It's not about saying zerg is good or whatever assumptions some people are making in this thread.
I actually meant as in real tactics, for instance staying stationary and standing in a like 4 banners.
Why should you move, if you can just negate em all? Negate Magic, you know.
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✭QuadroTony wrote: »swat+iddqd
i will make video soon - compilation of our swat raid wins on Azura
very impressive ones
Ah, a SWAT player. Enough said.
Ladies and gentleman, I give you ESO PvP. We have someone who has posted irrevocable evidence that a blob vs blob fight causes server lag (something that they vehemently deny) and a member of that same blob admitting that they aren't good enough to make AP any other way.
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Fecius✭✭✭QuadroTony wrote: »swat+iddqd
i will make video soon - compilation of our swat raid wins on Azura
very impressive ones
Ah, a SWAT player. Enough said.
Ladies and gentleman, I give you ESO PvP. We have someone who has posted irrevocable evidence that a blob vs blob fight causes server lag (something that they vehemently deny) and a member of that same blob admitting that they aren't good enough to make AP any other way.
@Fecius, please keep posting. Indeed, I would love to see more videos. Each one will only strengthen the position of real PvPers.
Good job, Poirot! You've just proved, that I'm a PvE player and I'm not as good in PvP as 24/7 PvP players.
But i was talking about myself personaly, not about every other member of our raid
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