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PvP GvG event Aetherius Eight EP EU vs Daggerfall Army DC EU

Fecius
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Here is the video after PvP Guild vs Guild event of AE EP EU with DA DC EU.

https://youtu.be/cQGfWbyU_Hk

Preparing this kind of PvP events as Comunity Event every other week. Coming soon!
Edited by Fecius on June 6, 2015 9:51PM
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  • kkravaritieb17_ESO
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    Aka Lag train vs Lag train.
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  • Erondil
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    Aka Lag train vs Lag train.

    ^^
    ~retired~
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  • kkravaritieb17_ESO
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    People like you destroy the fun out of pvp for everyone with your "skillful" group.
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  • Erondil
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    People like you destroy the fun out of pvp for everyone with your "skillful" group.

    2 sklls + 1 ultimate must be hard to manage.
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  • Fecius
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    More hate, plz! More. It was an event, we got fun, it took place away from any keep or important point of the map. All were happy! Noone was injured! :)

    @Erondil

    No, it's not. The thing is to manage all raid with different skills and itemisation witch will fill and fit each other.
    Edited by Fecius on June 6, 2015 10:05PM
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  • Garion
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    Fecius wrote: »
    More hate, plz! More. It was an event, we got fun, it took place away from any keep or important point of the map. All were happy! Noone was injured! :)

    The server seemed pretty hurt by the whole situation, actually.
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  • frozywozy
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    Good fights! except for the meteor spam ;)
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    • Fix crashes when approaching a keep under attack because of bad / wrong rendering prioritization system
    • Change emperorship to value faction score points and not alliance points - see this and this
    • Fix long loading screens (mostly caused by players joining group out of rendering range)
    • Add 2 more quickslots to the wheel or add a different wheel for sieges weaponry only
    • Fix Balista Bolts not dealing damage on walls or doors if deployed at a certain place
    • Release bigger battlegrounds with 8 to 16 players per team and only two teams
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    • Assign specific group sizes to specific campaigns (24-16-8)
    • Make forward camps impossible to place near objectives
    • Make snares only available from ground effects abilities
    • Change emperorship to last minimum 24hours
    • Fix body sliding after cc breaking too quickly
    • Remove Block Casting through Battle Spirit
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  • kkravaritieb17_ESO
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    This was a 24vs24 man you usually run around with more than that killing the server...i really dont see the fun in this kind of gameplay but if it boosts your ego keep doing it by all means...more and more people leave the game because of this @#$%.
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  • olsborg
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    You know, imo, this aint pvp, its a spamfest more resembling mindless pve. I mean no offence, its just my own opinion on the matter.

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  • WRX
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    Did the other forget how to wasd?

    I feel like moving out of the 5 standards,negate, and nova might of helped?
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  • Poxheart
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    The hyped up music could not overcome how mind numbingly boring those fights were.
    Unsubbed and no longer playing, but still checking the Alliance War forum for the lulz.

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  • Soris
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    Fecius wrote: »
    More hate, plz! More. It was an event, we got fun, it took place away from any keep or important point of the map. All were happy! Noone was injured! :)

    @Erondil

    No, it's not. The thing is to manage all raid with different skills and itemisation witch will fill and fit each other.

    You see the horrendous lag in fight 2 when your skills stop responding? Yeah that one.. You and your group may say that "fun" but well...it's what it kills pvp currently on every server. Shame on ZOS for that certainly but also shame on you for giving this lag to every single person in server bcs of your "fun"
    Edited by Soris on June 7, 2015 12:22PM
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    More steeltornado pls.

    And where are the caltrops? :o
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  • Fecius
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    @Soris

    Raid PvP allowed by game mech. OMG, it's what the Cyrodiil was desined for! Mass PvP! And lag is ZOS problem to solve, not players! You may see we don't use even Caltrops or Ice Comets to minimise laggs. I can definitly state that those 2 or 3 Ice Comets in one of the fights were not from our raid.

    @Alcast

    Both sides desided not to use Caltrops and Ice Comets to minimise laggs, cause we ourselves are not interested to fight within perfomance issures.
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  • eliisra
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    Erondil wrote: »
    People like you destroy the fun out of pvp for everyone with your "skillful" group.

    2 sklls + 1 ultimate must be hard to manage.

    Actually looks pretty hard, watching this totally absurd video. He's struggling to get those few skills of. Hitting Negate around ten times, before it activates.

    Becomes pretty clear the ESO engine and server cant deal with this type of "combat".

    I'm guilty of joining lag trains to, cant point fingers really. It's a vicious cycle. If your small group experience gets ruined over and over on every single campaign by lag blobs and meteor abuse, you eventually join the dark side just to lag them back even harder. But we all know how it ruins PvP. This video shows it perfectly clear.

    Only 2 raids fighting on screen, not close to a keep and performance is totally gone. Back in closed beta/early access you had 200+ fighting around one keep and combat was smooth. What the hell happened?

  • Soris
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    Certainly blame Zos. But Mass PvP doesn't exist in ESO. It never was. Simply servers can't handle that, as we see it over a year.
    So why do you insist on this playstyle causing whole server melt in lag? And It's not just Meteor or Caltrops causing lag. It's the way you stack and spam. How could it even fun anyways.. :|
    Edited by Soris on June 7, 2015 2:18PM
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  • Fecius
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    Soris wrote: »
    Certainly blame Zos. But Mass PvP doesn't exist in ESO. It never was. Simply servers can't handle that, as we see it over a year.
    So why do you insist on this playstyle causing whole server melt in lag? And It's not just Meteor or Caltrops causing lag. It's the way you stack and spam. How could it even fun anyways.. :|

    Look at this. This is what the PvP in ESOTU in mind of ZOS.

    http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/game-guide/the-alliance-war

    I will quote a fragment, so you can even not bother yourself by clicking this link.

    ZOS wrote:

    MASSIVE, EPIC BATTLES

    The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited features the largest PvP battles seen in a major online RPG. The game supports hundreds of onscreen players in epic battles. Swords and axes collide, spells and powers illuminate the ground and sky, and fires rage on embattled stronghold walls. Will you survive these epic battles? Can your overwhelming force take the keep, or will you be forced to retreat?

    The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited is built to accommodate hundreds of players onscreen at once.

    And this tells me, that actually the Mass PvP does exist in ESO even if you doesn't think so.
    Edited by Fecius on June 7, 2015 2:39PM
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  • Sanct16
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    I highly doubt that 50 people standing in each other was, what ZOS meant with mass pvp.
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  • ToRelax
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    No one complains about large scale PvP.
    Some guys just don't see the difference between large scale and zergballing for some reason...
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  • Soris
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    Fecius wrote: »
    Soris wrote: »
    Certainly blame Zos. But Mass PvP doesn't exist in ESO. It never was. Simply servers can't handle that, as we see it over a year.
    So why do you insist on this playstyle causing whole server melt in lag? And It's not just Meteor or Caltrops causing lag. It's the way you stack and spam. How could it even fun anyways.. :|

    Look at this. This is what the PvP in ESOTU in mind of ZOS.

    http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/game-guide/the-alliance-war

    I will quote a fragment, so you can even not bother yourself by clicking this link.

    ZOS wrote:

    MASSIVE, EPIC BATTLES

    The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited features the largest PvP battles seen in a major online RPG. The game supports hundreds of onscreen players in epic battles. Swords and axes collide, spells and powers illuminate the ground and sky, and fires rage on embattled stronghold walls. Will you survive these epic battles? Can your overwhelming force take the keep, or will you be forced to retreat?

    The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited is built to accommodate hundreds of players onscreen at once.

    And this tells me, that actually the Mass PvP does exist in ESO even if you doesn't think so.
    DO you actually believe every word in that page that is running perfect and smooth currently? That page is just for advertisement man come on.
    The "thing" in your video is very different than a large scale battle. It isn't large scale at all, just a 24vs24 fight. See how bad the performance and lag.

    "The game supports hundreds of onscreen players in epic battles" How can a game handle this when it can't even run 24v24 fights smooth? It's lagging even in most keep sieges in prime times without the lagtrains.
    Are you bind?
    Watch your video man lol
    Edited by Soris on June 7, 2015 3:34PM
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  • Alcast
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    Fecius wrote: »
    @Soris

    Raid PvP allowed by game mech. OMG, it's what the Cyrodiil was desined for! Mass PvP! And lag is ZOS problem to solve, not players! You may see we don't use even Caltrops or Ice Comets to minimise laggs. I can definitly state that those 2 or 3 Ice Comets in one of the fights were not from our raid.

    @Alcast

    Both sides desided not to use Caltrops and Ice Comets to minimise laggs, cause we ourselves are not interested to fight within perfomance issures.

    Haha okay, its not just Ice comet that lags *** out. Every Ulti that can hit multiple targets with DoTs will cause lag.

    And one might as WHY? Because ZOS engine is *** and cant even handle 10vs10 fights......althought they promised enormous pvp fights.
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  • Fecius
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    Soris wrote: »
    Fecius wrote: »
    Soris wrote: »
    Certainly blame Zos. But Mass PvP doesn't exist in ESO. It never was. Simply servers can't handle that, as we see it over a year.
    So why do you insist on this playstyle causing whole server melt in lag? And It's not just Meteor or Caltrops causing lag. It's the way you stack and spam. How could it even fun anyways.. :|

    Look at this. This is what the PvP in ESOTU in mind of ZOS.

    http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/game-guide/the-alliance-war

    I will quote a fragment, so you can even not bother yourself by clicking this link.

    ZOS wrote:

    MASSIVE, EPIC BATTLES

    The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited features the largest PvP battles seen in a major online RPG. The game supports hundreds of onscreen players in epic battles. Swords and axes collide, spells and powers illuminate the ground and sky, and fires rage on embattled stronghold walls. Will you survive these epic battles? Can your overwhelming force take the keep, or will you be forced to retreat?

    The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited is built to accommodate hundreds of players onscreen at once.

    And this tells me, that actually the Mass PvP does exist in ESO even if you doesn't think so.
    DO you actually believe every word in that page that is running perfect and smooth currently? That page is just for advertisement man come on.
    Beta times PvP were large scale but there were no lag at all. There was no lag because everyone were just using light attacks mostly. Nowadays it's lagging in large scale keep battles without even lagtrains. And the "thing" in your video is very different than that. It isn't large scale at all, just a 24vs24 battle. See how hard it lags.

    "The game supports hundreds of onscreen players in epic battles" How can a game handle this when it can't even run 24v24 fights smooth?
    Are you blind?
    Watch your video again lol

    Then ZOS should do one of two:

    1. Stop make those advertisements not to mislead customers.
    2. Fix lags.

    But both these actions are not a responsibility of loyal players.

    I'm not blind, looks like you just don't want to understand my point.
    Edited by Fecius on June 7, 2015 3:39PM
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  • R3DTHR3AT
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    Commentators hate is understandable, why the regular victims of the trains should like trains? :)
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  • Soris
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    Fecius wrote: »
    Soris wrote: »
    Fecius wrote: »
    Soris wrote: »
    Certainly blame Zos. But Mass PvP doesn't exist in ESO. It never was. Simply servers can't handle that, as we see it over a year.
    So why do you insist on this playstyle causing whole server melt in lag? And It's not just Meteor or Caltrops causing lag. It's the way you stack and spam. How could it even fun anyways.. :|

    Look at this. This is what the PvP in ESOTU in mind of ZOS.

    http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/game-guide/the-alliance-war

    I will quote a fragment, so you can even not bother yourself by clicking this link.

    ZOS wrote:

    MASSIVE, EPIC BATTLES

    The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited features the largest PvP battles seen in a major online RPG. The game supports hundreds of onscreen players in epic battles. Swords and axes collide, spells and powers illuminate the ground and sky, and fires rage on embattled stronghold walls. Will you survive these epic battles? Can your overwhelming force take the keep, or will you be forced to retreat?

    The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited is built to accommodate hundreds of players onscreen at once.

    And this tells me, that actually the Mass PvP does exist in ESO even if you doesn't think so.
    DO you actually believe every word in that page that is running perfect and smooth currently? That page is just for advertisement man come on.
    Beta times PvP were large scale but there were no lag at all. There was no lag because everyone were just using light attacks mostly. Nowadays it's lagging in large scale keep battles without even lagtrains. And the "thing" in your video is very different than that. It isn't large scale at all, just a 24vs24 battle. See how hard it lags.

    "The game supports hundreds of onscreen players in epic battles" How can a game handle this when it can't even run 24v24 fights smooth?
    Are you blind?
    Watch your video again lol

    Then ZOS should do one of two:

    1. Stop make those advertisements not to mislead customers.
    2. Fix lags.

    But both these actions are not a responsibility of loyal players.

    I'm not blind, looks like you just don't want to understand my point.

    Yeah and you should stop giving silly arguments to defend your awesome gameplay. You cause lag by your actions and that affects everyone do you even understand that? We are not in stress testing.
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  • Ahzek
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    @Fecius since you are a loyal player i assume you have been playing this game for several months now.
    As such an experienced player you should probably have noticed that ZOS's advertisement doesn't hold up to its promises.
    You have choosen to ignore that realization and instead continued to play the game as it was advertised / you imagined it to be, while cleary knowing it does not support that kind of gameplay. ZOS has indeed the two options you stated, but they are apparently unable to fix the lag and unwilling to change their advertisements in order to attrect more players and their money.
    You as a player however also have a choice:

    1.You can quit. You didnt get what you were promised so you leave. Easy as that.

    2. you stay and adjust. This does not even mean abbadonning Large scale pvp. This only means NOT using the most effiecient tactic of stacking up in a ball and spamming the *** out of your AoEs and instead spreadout and form smaller groups to operate together, even on the same battlefield. Guilds such as bananasquad have proven this is a viable strategy, but it obviously requires more effort and isn't quite as effiecinent as your way of fighting

    3. your current choice. You stick to your plans. You use the most effiecient means to achieve something an dont care a bit about the consequneces.

    In my opinion your behavior resembles that of a tenant who dicovers that the walls of his flat are not as soundproof as they were promised. But instead of adjusting to the situation you insist of turning up your volume as loud as you wanted it to be regardless of the consequences. You demand from your landlord to fix either his walls or his advertisements but he doesnt react. So you merrily continue to blaze your speakers as much as you can.

    Now most of us complaining about the "lagblobbing" are those tenants living in adjacent flats to yours. We also were adverised soundproof walls and we complained about them a lot to the landlord but we adjusted and turned down out speakers and aim to have fun with some quiter music. But all this nice quite music (for which the flats have the perfect acustic) gets drowmed out by your incredibly loud beat and we cant even enjoy that anymore, even though we know if you wouldnt turn up your volume that much we could have an amazing experience.

    Tldr: you justify your actions with ZOSs advertisement but ignore the fact that you (hopefully) are a grown up human being that can make his own decisions an come maybe, just maybe to the conclusion that insisting on what was promised would not help a damn and thus changing your playstyle might make the game more enjoyable for everyone.

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  • Soris
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    R3DTHR3AT wrote: »
    Commentators hate is understandable, why the regular victims of the trains should like trains? :)
    I'm quite sure you didn't understand the issue is not solely about winning/losing did you?
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  • R3DTHR3AT
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    Soris wrote: »
    I'm quite sure you didn't understand the issue is not solely about winning/losing did you?

    I just mentioned some butthurt and I like it :)
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  • Xsorus
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    While i commend you on making a GvG video

    Please understand this video is just not fun to watch...This sort of gameplay is frankly repulsive and a blight on PvP MMOs
  • Soris
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    R3DTHR3AT wrote: »
    Soris wrote: »
    I'm quite sure you didn't understand the issue is not solely about winning/losing did you?

    I just mentioned some butthurt and I like it :)
    Where is that lol button
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  • QuadroTony
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    so many butthurt from pugs!
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