PvP GvG event Aetherius Eight EP EU vs Daggerfall Army DC EU

Soulac

Fecius wrote: »

The true skill PvP defenders, please try to stay away form animalistic insults. It will never get you higher then those persons.

And I LOLed a lot while reading what I missed. Sometimes it looks like you are playing not an MMO, when you talking about using some less efficient actions to reach some goals. More of that, it looks like you still deny the fact that division of labor is much better then natural economy. You try to play as a group where everyone is a selfefficient unit ignoring the fact that all humanity sais that a group will be more efficient as a single unit then as a group of units.

You can lead a small shop trying to do all staff buy yourself: buying, selling, taxing, keeping sales books and so on. You are totally selfefficient. You can even gorup with others shopkeepers like you. But you have small ammount of time for every task. Same ammount of people can make a better business using division of labor. One will be a master seller, the other will keep books carefully, etc. And those people will have enogth time for their job to perform their best. As a result this group will achieve more.

Will you still argue with history of all humanity?

than*

Fecius

Soulac wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

The true skill PvP defenders, please try to stay away form animalistic insults. It will never get you higher then those persons.

And I LOLed a lot while reading what I missed. Sometimes it looks like you are playing not an MMO, when you talking about using some less efficient actions to reach some goals. More of that, it looks like you still deny the fact that division of labor is much better then natural economy. You try to play as a group where everyone is a selfefficient unit ignoring the fact that all humanity sais that a group will be more efficient as a single unit then as a group of units.

You can lead a small shop trying to do all staff buy yourself: buying, selling, taxing, keeping sales books and so on. You are totally selfefficient. You can even gorup with others shopkeepers like you. But you have small ammount of time for every task. Same ammount of people can make a better business using division of labor. One will be a master seller, the other will keep books carefully, etc. And those people will have enogth time for their job to perform their best. As a result this group will achieve more.

Will you still argue with history of all humanity?

than*

I am so grateful to you for helping me to improve my spelling. Since English is not my native, sometimes it's hard for me to write without any mistake.

Soulac

Fecius wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

The true skill PvP defenders, please try to stay away form animalistic insults. It will never get you higher then those persons.

And I LOLed a lot while reading what I missed. Sometimes it looks like you are playing not an MMO, when you talking about using some less efficient actions to reach some goals. More of that, it looks like you still deny the fact that division of labor is much better then natural economy. You try to play as a group where everyone is a selfefficient unit ignoring the fact that all humanity sais that a group will be more efficient as a single unit then as a group of units.

You can lead a small shop trying to do all staff buy yourself: buying, selling, taxing, keeping sales books and so on. You are totally selfefficient. You can even gorup with others shopkeepers like you. But you have small ammount of time for every task. Same ammount of people can make a better business using division of labor. One will be a master seller, the other will keep books carefully, etc. And those people will have enogth time for their job to perform their best. As a result this group will achieve more.

Will you still argue with history of all humanity?

than*

I am so grateful to you for helping me to improve my spelling. Since English is not my native, sometimes it's hard for me to write without any mistake.

Neither it's mine..

Anyway, your comparisons are neither good nor true.
I'd rather hire a small team of professionals than a huge team of beginners.
Also I don't think that more players equals to an higher achievement. Too many proofs against it.

LegendaryMage

Fecius wrote: »

Yeah, I got the point. I was talking right about 1 v 1 duels with some our PvPers. 12 vs 12 is GvG aside from duels.

Since we're talking about 1v1s, I feel like this is not totally offtopic.

I am frequently involved in organizing dueling session with Arena people, if any of your guys would like to join, they are certainly welcome, I did a little promo video recently too, not sure if many people saw it in the EU guild section, so I hope you don't mind me posting it here too, perhaps you will enjoy it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NJg_ihdrX8

Fecius

LegendaryMage wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Yeah, I got the point. I was talking right about 1 v 1 duels with some our PvPers. 12 vs 12 is GvG aside from duels.

Since we're talking about 1v1s, I feel like this is not totally offtopic.

I am frequently involved in organizing dueling session with Arena people, if any of your guys would like to join, they are certainly welcome, I did a little promo video recently too, not sure if many people saw it in the EU guild section, so I hope you don't mind me posting it here too, perhaps you will enjoy it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NJg_ihdrX8

You are welcome. Yeah, we will definitly keep this in mind

Fecius

Soulac wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

The true skill PvP defenders, please try to stay away form animalistic insults. It will never get you higher then those persons.

And I LOLed a lot while reading what I missed. Sometimes it looks like you are playing not an MMO, when you talking about using some less efficient actions to reach some goals. More of that, it looks like you still deny the fact that division of labor is much better then natural economy. You try to play as a group where everyone is a selfefficient unit ignoring the fact that all humanity sais that a group will be more efficient as a single unit then as a group of units.

You can lead a small shop trying to do all staff buy yourself: buying, selling, taxing, keeping sales books and so on. You are totally selfefficient. You can even gorup with others shopkeepers like you. But you have small ammount of time for every task. Same ammount of people can make a better business using division of labor. One will be a master seller, the other will keep books carefully, etc. And those people will have enogth time for their job to perform their best. As a result this group will achieve more.

Will you still argue with history of all humanity?

than*

I am so grateful to you for helping me to improve my spelling. Since English is not my native, sometimes it's hard for me to write without any mistake.

Neither it's mine..

Anyway, your comparisons are neither good nor true.
I'd rather hire a small team of professionals than a huge team of beginners.
Also I don't think that more players equals to an higher achievement. Too many proofs against it.

You've got it wrong. I'm not talking about more ppl or less ppl. I'm talking about selfefficiency, IMO that is not needed for everyone playing with group. The goal is to achieve a balance when you have different ppl for different roles. Every single member would not be a force at all, but together they will gather in a mech where all parts work as one. It's made by different unique roles, skillsets, itemsets, champion point distributions and so on. And more ppl we have, deeper the difference and it becomes harder to balance.

Yeah, as a result from the side you will see one man doing one-two things and placing ultimate in one sertain moment. If you are a comunity manager, you are doing every day the same - working with comunity, if you are a programmer - you will write scripts and programs all day long. Sometimes comunity manager will "ulty" with show or what ever, and programmer will "ulty" compiling his scripts. But together they have more chances to make a game like ESOTU than if they work solo on every staff which is needed for a game like this.

Garion

Fecius wrote: »

The true skill PvP defenders, please try to stay away form animalistic insults. It will never get you higher than those persons.

And I LOLed a lot while reading what I missed. Sometimes it looks like you are playing not an MMO, when you talking about using some less efficient actions to reach some goals. More of that, it looks like you still deny the fact that division of labor is much better then natural economy. You try to play as a group where everyone is a selfefficient unit ignoring the fact that all humanity sais that a group will be more efficient as a single unit then as a group of units.

You can lead a small shop trying to do all staff buy yourself: buying, selling, taxing, keeping sales books and so on. You are totally selfefficient. You can even gorup with others shopkeepers like you. But you have small ammount of time for every task. Same ammount of people can make a better business using division of labor. One will be a master seller, the other will keep books carefully, etc. And those people will have enogth time for their job to perform their best. As a result this group will achieve more.

Will you still argue with history of all humanity?

Based on your response I would say that it is you who has forgotten they are playing an MMO. Real life analogies and comparisons are not applicable to a fictitious world. In any event, no one is really arguing about the efficiency of your play style (although as indicated we make as much, if not more AP while in smaller groups and so there is an argument to be made).

Our main point is that this style requires little in the way of skill, is an undeniable cause of lag and reduces the fun in Cyrodiil for everyone outside of your little bubble. Sure, Aetherius 48 can swarm into a keep, stack on a flag while spamming skills, lag everyone out so no one can do anything to stop you. Efficient? Yes, I guess. Fun? Not for me and many others. Skilled? Unquestionably, irrevocably not - and this video proves it.

Fecius

Garion wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

The true skill PvP defenders, please try to stay away form animalistic insults. It will never get you higher than those persons.

And I LOLed a lot while reading what I missed. Sometimes it looks like you are playing not an MMO, when you talking about using some less efficient actions to reach some goals. More of that, it looks like you still deny the fact that division of labor is much better then natural economy. You try to play as a group where everyone is a selfefficient unit ignoring the fact that all humanity sais that a group will be more efficient as a single unit then as a group of units.

You can lead a small shop trying to do all staff buy yourself: buying, selling, taxing, keeping sales books and so on. You are totally selfefficient. You can even gorup with others shopkeepers like you. But you have small ammount of time for every task. Same ammount of people can make a better business using division of labor. One will be a master seller, the other will keep books carefully, etc. And those people will have enogth time for their job to perform their best. As a result this group will achieve more.

Will you still argue with history of all humanity?

Based on your response I would say that it is you who has forgotten they are playing an MMO. Real life analogies and comparisons are not applicable to a fictitious world. In any event, no one is really arguing about the efficiency of your play style (although as indicated we make as much, if not more AP while in smaller groups and so there is an argument to be made).

Our main point is that this style requires little in the way of skill, is an undeniable cause of lag and reduces the fun in Cyrodiil for everyone outside of your little bubble. Sure, Aetherius 48 can swarm into a keep, stack on a flag while spamming skills, lag everyone out so no one can do anything to stop you. Efficient? Yes, I guess. Fun? Not for me and many others. Skilled? Unquestionably, irrevocably not - and this video proves it.

E is for Envy

Erondil

Fecius wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

The true skill PvP defenders, please try to stay away form animalistic insults. It will never get you higher than those persons.

And I LOLed a lot while reading what I missed. Sometimes it looks like you are playing not an MMO, when you talking about using some less efficient actions to reach some goals. More of that, it looks like you still deny the fact that division of labor is much better then natural economy. You try to play as a group where everyone is a selfefficient unit ignoring the fact that all humanity sais that a group will be more efficient as a single unit then as a group of units.

You can lead a small shop trying to do all staff buy yourself: buying, selling, taxing, keeping sales books and so on. You are totally selfefficient. You can even gorup with others shopkeepers like you. But you have small ammount of time for every task. Same ammount of people can make a better business using division of labor. One will be a master seller, the other will keep books carefully, etc. And those people will have enogth time for their job to perform their best. As a result this group will achieve more.

Will you still argue with history of all humanity?

Based on your response I would say that it is you who has forgotten they are playing an MMO. Real life analogies and comparisons are not applicable to a fictitious world. In any event, no one is really arguing about the efficiency of your play style (although as indicated we make as much, if not more AP while in smaller groups and so there is an argument to be made).

Our main point is that this style requires little in the way of skill, is an undeniable cause of lag and reduces the fun in Cyrodiil for everyone outside of your little bubble. Sure, Aetherius 48 can swarm into a keep, stack on a flag while spamming skills, lag everyone out so no one can do anything to stop you. Efficient? Yes, I guess. Fun? Not for me and many others. Skilled? Unquestionably, irrevocably not - and this video proves it.

E is for Envy

Does he really think we envy his 48-man lagzerg because of his ap/hour ratio?
Lol dude if what you enjoy in a mmo is farming/grinding spamming 2 buttons like an idiot, then go plant carrots on Arche Age and leave players who enjoy PvP alone.

Fecius

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

The true skill PvP defenders, please try to stay away form animalistic insults. It will never get you higher than those persons.

And I LOLed a lot while reading what I missed. Sometimes it looks like you are playing not an MMO, when you talking about using some less efficient actions to reach some goals. More of that, it looks like you still deny the fact that division of labor is much better then natural economy. You try to play as a group where everyone is a selfefficient unit ignoring the fact that all humanity sais that a group will be more efficient as a single unit then as a group of units.

You can lead a small shop trying to do all staff buy yourself: buying, selling, taxing, keeping sales books and so on. You are totally selfefficient. You can even gorup with others shopkeepers like you. But you have small ammount of time for every task. Same ammount of people can make a better business using division of labor. One will be a master seller, the other will keep books carefully, etc. And those people will have enogth time for their job to perform their best. As a result this group will achieve more.

Will you still argue with history of all humanity?

Based on your response I would say that it is you who has forgotten they are playing an MMO. Real life analogies and comparisons are not applicable to a fictitious world. In any event, no one is really arguing about the efficiency of your play style (although as indicated we make as much, if not more AP while in smaller groups and so there is an argument to be made).

Our main point is that this style requires little in the way of skill, is an undeniable cause of lag and reduces the fun in Cyrodiil for everyone outside of your little bubble. Sure, Aetherius 48 can swarm into a keep, stack on a flag while spamming skills, lag everyone out so no one can do anything to stop you. Efficient? Yes, I guess. Fun? Not for me and many others. Skilled? Unquestionably, irrevocably not - and this video proves it.

E is for Envy

Does he really think we envy his 48-man lagzerg because of his ap/hour ratio?
Lol dude if what you enjoy in a mmo is farming/grinding spamming 2 buttons like an idiot, then go plant carrots on Arche Age and leave players who enjoy PvP alone.

No, we won't leave untill we like this. Why should we leave? We enjoy this game not less then you.

And as soon as you still enjoy insulting ppl, calling em "monkeys", "idiots", etc., it's much more pleasant to show you that those "unskilled monkeys and idiots" in and organised raid are still better than you. Yeah, let it be like Barbars vs Rome. Who cares, history is written by winners hands.

Soulac

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

The true skill PvP defenders, please try to stay away form animalistic insults. It will never get you higher than those persons.

And I LOLed a lot while reading what I missed. Sometimes it looks like you are playing not an MMO, when you talking about using some less efficient actions to reach some goals. More of that, it looks like you still deny the fact that division of labor is much better then natural economy. You try to play as a group where everyone is a selfefficient unit ignoring the fact that all humanity sais that a group will be more efficient as a single unit then as a group of units.

You can lead a small shop trying to do all staff buy yourself: buying, selling, taxing, keeping sales books and so on. You are totally selfefficient. You can even gorup with others shopkeepers like you. But you have small ammount of time for every task. Same ammount of people can make a better business using division of labor. One will be a master seller, the other will keep books carefully, etc. And those people will have enogth time for their job to perform their best. As a result this group will achieve more.

Will you still argue with history of all humanity?

Based on your response I would say that it is you who has forgotten they are playing an MMO. Real life analogies and comparisons are not applicable to a fictitious world. In any event, no one is really arguing about the efficiency of your play style (although as indicated we make as much, if not more AP while in smaller groups and so there is an argument to be made).

Our main point is that this style requires little in the way of skill, is an undeniable cause of lag and reduces the fun in Cyrodiil for everyone outside of your little bubble. Sure, Aetherius 48 can swarm into a keep, stack on a flag while spamming skills, lag everyone out so no one can do anything to stop you. Efficient? Yes, I guess. Fun? Not for me and many others. Skilled? Unquestionably, irrevocably not - and this video proves it.

E is for Envy

Does he really think we envy his 48-man lagzerg because of his ap/hour ratio?
Lol dude if what you enjoy in a mmo is farming/grinding spamming 2 buttons like an idiot, then go plant carrots on Arche Age and leave players who enjoy PvP alone.

No, we won't leave untill we like this. Why should we leave? We enjoy this game not less then you.

And as soon as you still enjoy insulting ppl, calling em "monkeys", "idiots", etc., it's much more pleasant to show you that those "unskilled monkeys and idiots" in and organised raid are still better then you. Yeah, let it be like Barbars vs Rome. Who cares, history is written by winners hands.

than*

Erondil

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

The true skill PvP defenders, please try to stay away form animalistic insults. It will never get you higher than those persons.

And I LOLed a lot while reading what I missed. Sometimes it looks like you are playing not an MMO, when you talking about using some less efficient actions to reach some goals. More of that, it looks like you still deny the fact that division of labor is much better then natural economy. You try to play as a group where everyone is a selfefficient unit ignoring the fact that all humanity sais that a group will be more efficient as a single unit then as a group of units.

You can lead a small shop trying to do all staff buy yourself: buying, selling, taxing, keeping sales books and so on. You are totally selfefficient. You can even gorup with others shopkeepers like you. But you have small ammount of time for every task. Same ammount of people can make a better business using division of labor. One will be a master seller, the other will keep books carefully, etc. And those people will have enogth time for their job to perform their best. As a result this group will achieve more.

Will you still argue with history of all humanity?

Based on your response I would say that it is you who has forgotten they are playing an MMO. Real life analogies and comparisons are not applicable to a fictitious world. In any event, no one is really arguing about the efficiency of your play style (although as indicated we make as much, if not more AP while in smaller groups and so there is an argument to be made).

Our main point is that this style requires little in the way of skill, is an undeniable cause of lag and reduces the fun in Cyrodiil for everyone outside of your little bubble. Sure, Aetherius 48 can swarm into a keep, stack on a flag while spamming skills, lag everyone out so no one can do anything to stop you. Efficient? Yes, I guess. Fun? Not for me and many others. Skilled? Unquestionably, irrevocably not - and this video proves it.

E is for Envy

Does he really think we envy his 48-man lagzerg because of his ap/hour ratio?
Lol dude if what you enjoy in a mmo is farming/grinding spamming 2 buttons like an idiot, then go plant carrots on Arche Age and leave players who enjoy PvP alone.

No, we won't leave untill we like this. Why should we leave? We enjoy this game not less then you.

And as soon as you still enjoy insulting ppl, calling em "monkeys", "idiots", etc., it's much more pleasant to show you that those "unskilled monkeys and idiots" in and organised raid are still better then you. Yeah, let it be like Barbars vs Rome. Who cares, history is written by winners hands.

I'm not angry agaisnt organized big-raid, I'm not angry agaisnt people who are better than me. I'm angry agaisnt people who create lag which annoy every single player on the whole map while they could use others tactics than stacking and spamming like idiots (it would requires more skill I agree) and be as effective. I'm especially angry when those people come on forum to say that they are PvE players here to farm AP, that they don't give a shiet about others and don't even enjoy what they're doing.
Also, I would like you to define what "better" means for you since the 12vs12 and the duels you're talking about didn't happened yet

Fecius

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

The true skill PvP defenders, please try to stay away form animalistic insults. It will never get you higher than those persons.

And I LOLed a lot while reading what I missed. Sometimes it looks like you are playing not an MMO, when you talking about using some less efficient actions to reach some goals. More of that, it looks like you still deny the fact that division of labor is much better then natural economy. You try to play as a group where everyone is a selfefficient unit ignoring the fact that all humanity sais that a group will be more efficient as a single unit then as a group of units.

You can lead a small shop trying to do all staff buy yourself: buying, selling, taxing, keeping sales books and so on. You are totally selfefficient. You can even gorup with others shopkeepers like you. But you have small ammount of time for every task. Same ammount of people can make a better business using division of labor. One will be a master seller, the other will keep books carefully, etc. And those people will have enogth time for their job to perform their best. As a result this group will achieve more.

Will you still argue with history of all humanity?

Based on your response I would say that it is you who has forgotten they are playing an MMO. Real life analogies and comparisons are not applicable to a fictitious world. In any event, no one is really arguing about the efficiency of your play style (although as indicated we make as much, if not more AP while in smaller groups and so there is an argument to be made).

Our main point is that this style requires little in the way of skill, is an undeniable cause of lag and reduces the fun in Cyrodiil for everyone outside of your little bubble. Sure, Aetherius 48 can swarm into a keep, stack on a flag while spamming skills, lag everyone out so no one can do anything to stop you. Efficient? Yes, I guess. Fun? Not for me and many others. Skilled? Unquestionably, irrevocably not - and this video proves it.

E is for Envy

Does he really think we envy his 48-man lagzerg because of his ap/hour ratio?
Lol dude if what you enjoy in a mmo is farming/grinding spamming 2 buttons like an idiot, then go plant carrots on Arche Age and leave players who enjoy PvP alone.

No, we won't leave untill we like this. Why should we leave? We enjoy this game not less then you.

And as soon as you still enjoy insulting ppl, calling em "monkeys", "idiots", etc., it's much more pleasant to show you that those "unskilled monkeys and idiots" in and organised raid are still better then you. Yeah, let it be like Barbars vs Rome. Who cares, history is written by winners hands.

I'm not angry agaisnt organized big-raid, I'm not angry agaisnt people who are better than me. I'm angry agaisnt people who create lag which annoy every single player on the whole map while they could use others tactics than stacking and spamming like idiots (it would requires more skill I agree) and be as effective. I'm especially angry when those people come on forum to say that they are PvE players here to farm AP, that they don't give a shiet about others and don't even enjoy what they're doing.
Also, I would like you to define what "better" means for you since the 12vs12 and the duels you're talking about didn't happened yet

Friday, June 19 is a provisional date.

P.S.: And I just hate insulting or flaming ppl you actually don't know.

Garion

Fecius wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

The true skill PvP defenders, please try to stay away form animalistic insults. It will never get you higher than those persons.

And I LOLed a lot while reading what I missed. Sometimes it looks like you are playing not an MMO, when you talking about using some less efficient actions to reach some goals. More of that, it looks like you still deny the fact that division of labor is much better then natural economy. You try to play as a group where everyone is a selfefficient unit ignoring the fact that all humanity sais that a group will be more efficient as a single unit then as a group of units.

You can lead a small shop trying to do all staff buy yourself: buying, selling, taxing, keeping sales books and so on. You are totally selfefficient. You can even gorup with others shopkeepers like you. But you have small ammount of time for every task. Same ammount of people can make a better business using division of labor. One will be a master seller, the other will keep books carefully, etc. And those people will have enogth time for their job to perform their best. As a result this group will achieve more.

Will you still argue with history of all humanity?

Based on your response I would say that it is you who has forgotten they are playing an MMO. Real life analogies and comparisons are not applicable to a fictitious world. In any event, no one is really arguing about the efficiency of your play style (although as indicated we make as much, if not more AP while in smaller groups and so there is an argument to be made).

Our main point is that this style requires little in the way of skill, is an undeniable cause of lag and reduces the fun in Cyrodiil for everyone outside of your little bubble. Sure, Aetherius 48 can swarm into a keep, stack on a flag while spamming skills, lag everyone out so no one can do anything to stop you. Efficient? Yes, I guess. Fun? Not for me and many others. Skilled? Unquestionably, irrevocably not - and this video proves it.

E is for Envy

And 'P' is for 'People' who post piffle because they are incapable of justifying their preposterous play style.

I like alliteration.

Erondil

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

The true skill PvP defenders, please try to stay away form animalistic insults. It will never get you higher than those persons.

And I LOLed a lot while reading what I missed. Sometimes it looks like you are playing not an MMO, when you talking about using some less efficient actions to reach some goals. More of that, it looks like you still deny the fact that division of labor is much better then natural economy. You try to play as a group where everyone is a selfefficient unit ignoring the fact that all humanity sais that a group will be more efficient as a single unit then as a group of units.

You can lead a small shop trying to do all staff buy yourself: buying, selling, taxing, keeping sales books and so on. You are totally selfefficient. You can even gorup with others shopkeepers like you. But you have small ammount of time for every task. Same ammount of people can make a better business using division of labor. One will be a master seller, the other will keep books carefully, etc. And those people will have enogth time for their job to perform their best. As a result this group will achieve more.

Will you still argue with history of all humanity?

Based on your response I would say that it is you who has forgotten they are playing an MMO. Real life analogies and comparisons are not applicable to a fictitious world. In any event, no one is really arguing about the efficiency of your play style (although as indicated we make as much, if not more AP while in smaller groups and so there is an argument to be made).

Our main point is that this style requires little in the way of skill, is an undeniable cause of lag and reduces the fun in Cyrodiil for everyone outside of your little bubble. Sure, Aetherius 48 can swarm into a keep, stack on a flag while spamming skills, lag everyone out so no one can do anything to stop you. Efficient? Yes, I guess. Fun? Not for me and many others. Skilled? Unquestionably, irrevocably not - and this video proves it.

E is for Envy

Does he really think we envy his 48-man lagzerg because of his ap/hour ratio?
Lol dude if what you enjoy in a mmo is farming/grinding spamming 2 buttons like an idiot, then go plant carrots on Arche Age and leave players who enjoy PvP alone.

No, we won't leave untill we like this. Why should we leave? We enjoy this game not less then you.

And as soon as you still enjoy insulting ppl, calling em "monkeys", "idiots", etc., it's much more pleasant to show you that those "unskilled monkeys and idiots" in and organised raid are still better then you. Yeah, let it be like Barbars vs Rome. Who cares, history is written by winners hands.

I'm not angry agaisnt organized big-raid, I'm not angry agaisnt people who are better than me. I'm angry agaisnt people who create lag which annoy every single player on the whole map while they could use others tactics than stacking and spamming like idiots (it would requires more skill I agree) and be as effective. I'm especially angry when those people come on forum to say that they are PvE players here to farm AP, that they don't give a shiet about others and don't even enjoy what they're doing.
Also, I would like you to define what "better" means for you since the 12vs12 and the duels you're talking about didn't happened yet

Friday, June 19 is a provisional date.

P.S.: And I just hate insulting or flaming ppl you actually don't know.

You're actually not respecting them when you keep the same behaviour (blob up) when you know it makes the lag worse for everybody. Its even more disrespectful when you say on forum that you don't care about the game conditions of others but only about be the most efficient to grind your AP fast. You're basically insulting hundreds of people you don't know.

Beesting

QuadroTony wrote: »

swat+iddqd
i will make video soon - compilation of our swat raid wins on Azura

very impressive ones

I have been playing with swat for 6 weeks straight, every evening for like 7 hours an evening.

I can tall you this tony or czenia might be a member of swat (one of 499) but he never follows the crown or says anything in ts

So yeah, tony please stop giving swat a bad name please, i hope you return to your ap farm in some cyrodill cave.

Sorry bro, it needs to be said

QuadroTony

ye because i always scouting or help our blob with siege weapons. jakman-raidleade actualyl said im awesome
this moment will be in the video

i can forgive you, bro

Lava_Croft

Be part of [insert random group of tryhards]
(Ab)use every intended and unintended game feature in order to have an advantage.
Cry because other people do the same.
Profit??

Garion

Beesting wrote: »

QuadroTony wrote: »

swat+iddqd
i will make video soon - compilation of our swat raid wins on Azura

very impressive ones

I have been playing with swat for 6 weeks straight, every evening for like 7 hours an evening.

I can tall you this tony or czenia might be a member of swat (one of 499) but he never follows the crown or says anything in ts

So yeah, tony please stop giving swat a bad name please, i hope you return to your ap farm in some cyrodill cave.

Sorry bro, it needs to be said

I am glad someone from SWAT said something

QuadroTony

im glad you noticed it

Beesting

QuadroTony wrote: »

ye because i always scouting or help our blob with siege weapons. jakman-raidleade actualyl said im awesome
this moment will be in the video

i can forgive you, bro

Thank you, last night was fun and you were not scouting the other side of the map.

@Garion i am convinced you are your 11 friends are the most elite pvp group on ad side, but you also understand that for others less skilled and fortunate there are only a few options to survive more, spend less time travelling on horse and have more fun in eso pvp

After solo-ing and playing with pugs in chillrend for 2 weeks against exile (this was 10 weeks ago and i never pvp d before) i got tired fast of lot of things

- when sieging with a pug they put down 5 sieges at most, rest is chasing kills or spamming rapid regen on trees
- When wiped in a group of 24 , nobody ever waits for each other and they just run back to the killzone one by one, this used to drive me mental
- A third of the group is afk or at a different part of the map
- No ts, no plan, no tactics

So when the opportunity came to roll in a 24 man group it was either that or quit eso completely

And i am glad i did it,

It takes a hell of a lot of effort for the raid leaders to constantly ask people to stay with the crown and sometimes spreading out would seem like a better idea. The skill that is the hardest is to follow the crown in large battle when there are caltops everywhere and 5 ballista's shooting at us. I can tell you i use much more than 2 skills but it takes practice to follow the crown and not just chase individual kills.

So i am glad i can pvp and get stuff done, attack any keep and get a rezz every now and then and have a laugh

I will never go back to pugmode but elite pvp in 12 man unkillable group like yours seems unlikely
And maybe most important, i dont speak german .....

There is a place and a valid play tactic for everyone, for me it is swat

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

QuadroTony wrote: »

ye because i always scouting or help our blob with siege weapons. jakman-raidleade actualyl said im awesome
this moment will be in the video

i can forgive you, bro

Tony please let me see your video, any part of it. I haven't has as good a laugh as when I read this post above for a long time. the words "Jakman-raidleade actualyl said im awesome" may have been the lines to the best joke ever known to man I might actually use them in my forum sig to remind myself.

When you make your video can you please ensure it includes a lot of sneaking with bows. I like that best in big raids. Also make sure as you said only "very impressive ones" are included. I hate long videos.

Kind Regards,
Izanagi

p.s still awaiting a "left click for block" and "how to rapid regen with passion" gameplay tutorial. Perhaps you can get some trained professionals to assist you with this production I'm sure you know some?
The word of the day if you decide to reply is "verybuthurt" try and include it for bonus points.

_____

Also for the OP, I have videos of Banana squad on 105k AP/hr for a long while, would you like me to message you them?
I'll watch your gvg video later, I'm glad you liked the no caltrops and no meteor rule we made with our last gvg feel free to use the ruleset for any more gvg you do. Although judging from the reaction it didnt help much with lag in this situation.

Raizin

Fecius wrote: »

Here is the video after PvP Guild vs Guild event of AE EP EU with DA DC EU.

https://youtu.be/cQGfWbyU_Hk

Preparing this kind of PvP events as Comunity Event every other week. Coming soon!

yea nice way to *** up whole server for some time (actualy majority of prime time)...and yes it affects us all, doesnt matter if u r in the other corner of the map/away from others

if u rly wish to spam 2 buttons so bad, go play lol or smthing

btw, good for u that u r not even using meteors ... _I_ off.

Fecius

Ok, folks. Here is our GvG event as it was promised:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/180383/eu-gvg-pvp-event-12-vs-12-or-24-vs-24-from-aetherius-eight-ep?new=1

Hope, Banana Squad is still in it!

Hypertionb14_ESO

it is nice seeing a good negate being the key to decimating blobs.

it sadly doenst work on a blob in motion but when blob meets blob the negate is usually the key to winning.

Vista123

Beautiful video

bertenburnyb16_ESO

if u want mass pvp try GW2, there u can 100vs100 with only a fraction of the lagg that is eso pvp, a shame though that zos cant fix their sh*t

blabafat

Sure, it was laggy and there were a ton of people spamming aoes etc bla bla bla

BUTTT....

That was funny and enjoyable. Since it was planned it was cool to see you guys just rush each other. It was funny and entertaining. Some people don't realize that not all pvp videos have to be about skill, some, such as this one, are just funny to watch.

Cool vid

Xsorus

bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »

if u want mass pvp try GW2, there u can 100vs100 with only a fraction of the lagg that is eso pvp, a shame though that zos cant fix their sh*t

Say what? you get 100vs100 in GW2 small ass zones you most certainly do lag.

In fact the only thing you can do in those cases is spam your 1 key most of the time.

Soulac

Xsorus wrote: »

bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »

if u want mass pvp try GW2, there u can 100vs100 with only a fraction of the lagg that is eso pvp, a shame though that zos cant fix their sh*t

Say what? you get 100vs100 in GW2 small ass zones you most certainly do lag.

In fact the only thing you can do in those cases is spam your 1 key most of the time.

And I can remember invisible enemys in the first year of GW2.
The only funny thing were mesmer chain portals with a couple of golems.