PvP GvG event Aetherius Eight EP EU vs Daggerfall Army DC EU

Most_Awesome · June 2015

Ill be honest and say that looked quite [snip], both guilds just run at each other then stand on top of each others heads spamming 1/2 buttons. If both trains carried on moving and used movement and tactics to beat the others then maybe it would have looked more impressive, I might as well have watched a Trial run as that's all this looked like.

It would have been more fun to watch if you had run at each other in line like you all are at the start of the video, this video is horrid

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Ahzek · June 2015

I just wanted to say that i have a low self esteem and i'm feeling ignored with noone even acknowledging my commet Q_Q

Isbilen · June 2015

WRX wrote: »

Did the other forget how to wasd?

I feel like moving out of the 5 standards,negate, and nova might of helped?

DA is basically just a PUG with TS, and a decent 5-man group could probably wipe them. Normally when I see them, they are either sitting in stealth for three minutes before they run out and wipe, or ninja taking Brindle undefended.

Soris · June 2015

Ahzek wrote: »

I just wanted to say that i have a low self esteem and i'm feeling ignored with noone even acknowledging my commet Q_Q

DW, your comment needs some decent brain lobes and ability to emphaty to be understood. It seems some people just ignore everything and insist on butthurt comments like they're doing great other than lagging all over the place causing everyone crash.

Sacadon · June 2015

Ahzek wrote: »

I just wanted to say that i have a low self esteem and i'm feeling ignored with noone even acknowledging my commet Q_Q

Some gave you awesomes for the comment. If you're on an iPad they don't show unless you're signed in and tap on the player name once.

Fecius · June 2015

Ahzek wrote: »

I just wanted to say that i have a low self esteem and i'm feeling ignored with noone even acknowledging my commet Q_Q

Oh, so sad.

And now I'll give you another point of view. From my point there are all pugs in Cyrodiil who uses Ice Comets or ignoring objectives are kind of people with "too loud music" making my life not fun. You say that raids used to spoil you gameplay. I say that pugs used to spoil my!

Why? Ok. As an alliance we need to take and defend keeps like to sit the Emperor or whatever. Let's state that this current company is full with members of all alliances and there are queues on every side. And while our raid will go and try to get keeps all pugs will sit at Arrius Lumbermill "defending". Those players (pugs) are totally useless for a company, because they do nothing in terms of Alliance War, and no one more can get into the company cause of lock and queue. This pugs fill the company spoiling my gameplay, making server overcrowded, making lags with their Ice Comet spam, while defending their Arrius Lumber and crying on forums afterwards "look, it's them to lag our server"! And who cares that he and hundreds of pugs around just pressed his meteor button 10 times each that summons 10 meteors from each on the raid to get those AP if blob will die?

But you know what. I've never cried about it on the forum before this moment. It is not your server or mine. It's neither you nor me to tell someone what to do or what not to. I pay for this game since betta, I play this game according to the terms of use and licenses, I love this game and no one can point me what should I do or what shouldn't. You are not my boss.

Personaly I am a PvE player. Man, I don't enjoy PvP much. I just need to get Vigor and Guard and for this I need tons of AP. I've found the fastest way to get it: raid PvP. And when this happens I will leave PvP untill other moment like this.

So last but not least: it is an MMO and players will always use most efficient legal ways to reach their goals. Always! And for now, raid is the most efficient way to farm AP: up to 150k AP for 3h. If you need some kind of totally comfort RPG gameplay, maybe you should look for some good offline RPG like TES V: Skyrim or others.

Sanct16 · June 2015

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Fecius · June 2015

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

kkravaritieb17_ESO · June 2015

What disgusts me about your type-kind of lag-zerg-fest is the fact that in order for you to get AP a whole server must suffer and lag. I certainly acknowledge the fact that primarily its ZoS's fault with the inability of the server's to handle big fights, but the persistence of guilds like yours running around with 50 man trains is something that amazes me. And at the same time I honestly feel sad about you because i think deep down you know that you would have been obliterated against a decent group if there was no lag. But anyway keep up the good work...eh sry the good lag

kkravaritieb17_ESO · June 2015

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

Well we re getting everynight around 40-50k ap/hour with a 10-12 man group without lagging everybody else out.

Fecius · June 2015

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

Well we re getting everynight around 40-50k ap/hour with a 10-12 man group without lagging everybody else out.

So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

What disgusts me about your type-kind of lag-zerg-fest is the fact that in order for you to get AP a whole server must suffer and lag. I certainly acknowledge the fact that primarily its ZoS's fault with the inability of the server's to handle big fights, but the persistence of guilds like yours running around with 50 man trains is something that amazes me. And at the same time I honestly feel sad about you because i think deep down you know that you would have been obliterated against a decent group if there was no lag. But anyway keep up the good work...eh sry the good lag

Let's try? Make this group and let's find another free compain out of prime-time where you will obliterate our raid without lags. With DA it was Haderus pretty much in prime-time, so it became full fast. It was just not the best choise of us for minimum laggs. We are going to make this in a format of every other week event between those who want if there are some.

P.S.: Deep incide I doesn't give a f*** of winning or losing a PvP battle, cause I'm PvE player and AP with PvP ranks to get 10lvl of Support and Assault are all I need. And since I've done World 1st SO HM before 1.6, I feel pretty good about my success in PvE.

Etaniel · June 2015

Fecius wrote: »

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

Well we re getting everynight around 40-50k ap/hour with a 10-12 man group without lagging everybody else out.

So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

What disgusts me about your type-kind of lag-zerg-fest is the fact that in order for you to get AP a whole server must suffer and lag. I certainly acknowledge the fact that primarily its ZoS's fault with the inability of the server's to handle big fights, but the persistence of guilds like yours running around with 50 man trains is something that amazes me. And at the same time I honestly feel sad about you because i think deep down you know that you would have been obliterated against a decent group if there was no lag. But anyway keep up the good work...eh sry the good lag

Let's try? Make this group and let's find another free compain out of prime-time where you will obliterate our raid without lags. With DA it was Haderus pretty much in prime-time, so it became full fast. It was just not the best choise of us for minimum laggs. We are going to make this in a format of every other week event between those who want if there are some.

10-12 people with pugs is better than 20-24 with pugs.
It's really funny how lame that fight was, your group didn't stop spamming their aoe key even when the enemy raid was dead, every one stayed in the enemy ultimates, you just ran head on into their group, it's the most pathetic attempt of PvP I've seen in a long time. And you *** everyone off by lagging everything.
Maybe when your train is alone, you don't lag, but when you collide two idiotic trains like that, the server dies.
Also next time please increase the size of your UI, I was having trouble reading your healthbars

Erondil · June 2015

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

50k/6h when youre solo? I understand how comes you need such big group to get AP lol... solo I'm usually around 20-30k AP/hour. Man you suck hard solo. Like very hard so you prefer to blob up in 20-40 man raid because it requires less personnal skill. I got it.

Sanct16 · June 2015

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time Ithus need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

Oh don't worry, I see your point. I.don't have a problem with 24man groups as such. It is possible to wipe them with less players when it does not lag so I am not butterhurt etc. However this lag is the main issue. You can see that server can't even handle 24v24 open field far away from any keeps etc. Now add 20 randoms on both sides and enjoy some minutes of 999+. This behavior destroys campaigns like Thornblade which we don't even try anymore since last campaign and even then only to defend Frostsoul's emperorship. Playing with a 24man raid is indeed the easiest way to get ap but it is the one that destroys most other players game experience as well.

We usually play with maximum 12 players and I am pretty sure we get more AP than most other groups. When I am home from University I will look if I can find some nice fight including codex session showing ap/h during the last hours. Usually we have an average of 45-55k per hour over a day. So its not much more than you get with a full raid but it's more challenging (making it more enjoyable imo) and you don't lag out the server.

Fecius · June 2015

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

50k/6h when youre solo? I understand how comes you need such big group to get AP lol... solo I'm usually around 20-30k AP/hour. Man you suck hard. Like very hard.

Yep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.

But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...

Etaniel wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

Well we re getting everynight around 40-50k ap/hour with a 10-12 man group without lagging everybody else out.

So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

What disgusts me about your type-kind of lag-zerg-fest is the fact that in order for you to get AP a whole server must suffer and lag. I certainly acknowledge the fact that primarily its ZoS's fault with the inability of the server's to handle big fights, but the persistence of guilds like yours running around with 50 man trains is something that amazes me. And at the same time I honestly feel sad about you because i think deep down you know that you would have been obliterated against a decent group if there was no lag. But anyway keep up the good work...eh sry the good lag

Let's try? Make this group and let's find another free compain out of prime-time where you will obliterate our raid without lags. With DA it was Haderus pretty much in prime-time, so it became full fast. It was just not the best choise of us for minimum laggs. We are going to make this in a format of every other week event between those who want if there are some.

10-12 people with pugs is better than 20-24 with pugs.
It's really funny how lame that fight was, your group didn't stop spamming their aoe key even when the enemy raid was dead, every one stayed in the enemy ultimates, you just ran head on into their group, it's the most pathetic attempt of PvP I've seen in a long time. And you *** everyone off by lagging everything.
Maybe when your train is alone, you don't lag, but when you collide two idiotic trains like that, the server dies.
Also next time please increase the size of your UI, I was having trouble reading your healthbars

1-2 people with pugs is much better then 10-12! Go solo PvP to save the server!

Actually I love my UI, it reminds me about some other MMO we all know.

Fecius · June 2015

Sanct16 wrote: »

but it's more challenging (making it more enjoyable imo) and you don't lag out the server.

Please, add to you equation that I need no enjoyable or challenging PvP. More of that, I need no PvP at all. I am a PvE player forced by ZOS to farm AP for those PvP line skills that can be usefull in PvE and those sets like Cyrodiil Light, etc, which are MUST HAVE in PvE now.

Erondil · June 2015

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

50k/6h when youre solo? I understand how comes you need such big group to get AP lol... solo I'm usually around 20-30k AP/hour. Man you suck hard. Like very hard.

Yep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.

But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...

Etaniel wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

Well we re getting everynight around 40-50k ap/hour with a 10-12 man group without lagging everybody else out.

So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

What disgusts me about your type-kind of lag-zerg-fest is the fact that in order for you to get AP a whole server must suffer and lag. I certainly acknowledge the fact that primarily its ZoS's fault with the inability of the server's to handle big fights, but the persistence of guilds like yours running around with 50 man trains is something that amazes me. And at the same time I honestly feel sad about you because i think deep down you know that you would have been obliterated against a decent group if there was no lag. But anyway keep up the good work...eh sry the good lag

Let's try? Make this group and let's find another free compain out of prime-time where you will obliterate our raid without lags. With DA it was Haderus pretty much in prime-time, so it became full fast. It was just not the best choise of us for minimum laggs. We are going to make this in a format of every other week event between those who want if there are some.

10-12 people with pugs is better than 20-24 with pugs.
It's really funny how lame that fight was, your group didn't stop spamming their aoe key even when the enemy raid was dead, every one stayed in the enemy ultimates, you just ran head on into their group, it's the most pathetic attempt of PvP I've seen in a long time. And you *** everyone off by lagging everything.
Maybe when your train is alone, you don't lag, but when you collide two idiotic trains like that, the server dies.
Also next time please increase the size of your UI, I was having trouble reading your healthbars

1-2 people with pugs is much better then 10-12! Go solo PvP to save the server!

Actually I love my UI, it reminds me about some other MMO we all know.

But I dont even try to farm AP when I'm solo dude. Just try to get fun and nice outnumbered fights, I dont farm ressources and I dont even wait for ticks the rare times I defend a ressource/keep. In raids of 10-12 we're usually around 40-50k AP/hour over several hours + we dont make the server lag + its much more interesting than spamming 2 buttons and one ult. But true, it might requires too much skill for you.
Edit : when I'm solo I mean solo, not following the headless pugs btw seja and brk. There are barely pugs around me and I dont play the map

Fecius · June 2015

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

50k/6h when youre solo? I understand how comes you need such big group to get AP lol... solo I'm usually around 20-30k AP/hour. Man you suck hard. Like very hard.

Yep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.

But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...

Etaniel wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

Well we re getting everynight around 40-50k ap/hour with a 10-12 man group without lagging everybody else out.

So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

What disgusts me about your type-kind of lag-zerg-fest is the fact that in order for you to get AP a whole server must suffer and lag. I certainly acknowledge the fact that primarily its ZoS's fault with the inability of the server's to handle big fights, but the persistence of guilds like yours running around with 50 man trains is something that amazes me. And at the same time I honestly feel sad about you because i think deep down you know that you would have been obliterated against a decent group if there was no lag. But anyway keep up the good work...eh sry the good lag

Let's try? Make this group and let's find another free compain out of prime-time where you will obliterate our raid without lags. With DA it was Haderus pretty much in prime-time, so it became full fast. It was just not the best choise of us for minimum laggs. We are going to make this in a format of every other week event between those who want if there are some.

10-12 people with pugs is better than 20-24 with pugs.
It's really funny how lame that fight was, your group didn't stop spamming their aoe key even when the enemy raid was dead, every one stayed in the enemy ultimates, you just ran head on into their group, it's the most pathetic attempt of PvP I've seen in a long time. And you *** everyone off by lagging everything.
Maybe when your train is alone, you don't lag, but when you collide two idiotic trains like that, the server dies.
Also next time please increase the size of your UI, I was having trouble reading your healthbars

1-2 people with pugs is much better then 10-12! Go solo PvP to save the server!

Actually I love my UI, it reminds me about some other MMO we all know.

But I dont even try to farm AP when I'm solo dude. Just try to get fun and nice outnumbered fights, I dont farm ressources and I dont even wait for ticks the rare times I defend a ressource/keep. In raids of 10-12 we're usually around 40-50k AP/hour over several hours + we dont make the server lag + its much more interesting than spamming 2 buttons and one ult. But true, it might requires too much skill for you.

Good for you. And I can't enjoy any type of PvP. 2 buttons or 20 buttons doesn't matter. In Cyrodiil I need nothing more then AP. I enjoy trials or things like vDSA and want some new staff, cause pretty tired of old raids.

Erondil · June 2015

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

50k/6h when youre solo? I understand how comes you need such big group to get AP lol... solo I'm usually around 20-30k AP/hour. Man you suck hard. Like very hard.

Yep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.

But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...

Etaniel wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

Well we re getting everynight around 40-50k ap/hour with a 10-12 man group without lagging everybody else out.

So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

What disgusts me about your type-kind of lag-zerg-fest is the fact that in order for you to get AP a whole server must suffer and lag. I certainly acknowledge the fact that primarily its ZoS's fault with the inability of the server's to handle big fights, but the persistence of guilds like yours running around with 50 man trains is something that amazes me. And at the same time I honestly feel sad about you because i think deep down you know that you would have been obliterated against a decent group if there was no lag. But anyway keep up the good work...eh sry the good lag

Let's try? Make this group and let's find another free compain out of prime-time where you will obliterate our raid without lags. With DA it was Haderus pretty much in prime-time, so it became full fast. It was just not the best choise of us for minimum laggs. We are going to make this in a format of every other week event between those who want if there are some.

10-12 people with pugs is better than 20-24 with pugs.
It's really funny how lame that fight was, your group didn't stop spamming their aoe key even when the enemy raid was dead, every one stayed in the enemy ultimates, you just ran head on into their group, it's the most pathetic attempt of PvP I've seen in a long time. And you *** everyone off by lagging everything.
Maybe when your train is alone, you don't lag, but when you collide two idiotic trains like that, the server dies.
Also next time please increase the size of your UI, I was having trouble reading your healthbars

1-2 people with pugs is much better then 10-12! Go solo PvP to save the server!

Actually I love my UI, it reminds me about some other MMO we all know.

But I dont even try to farm AP when I'm solo dude. Just try to get fun and nice outnumbered fights, I dont farm ressources and I dont even wait for ticks the rare times I defend a ressource/keep. In raids of 10-12 we're usually around 40-50k AP/hour over several hours + we dont make the server lag + its much more interesting than spamming 2 buttons and one ult. But true, it might requires too much skill for you.

Good for you. And I can't enjoy any type of PvP. 2 buttons or 20 buttons doesn't matter. In Cyrodiil I need nothing more then AP.

And youre ready to make the server laggs out and destroy everybody's fun only for your AP that will serve a little bit in PvE. Good to hear.

Soris · June 2015

Fecius wrote: »

So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!

Pugs, small groups and regular zergs don't cause lag except massive 3-way sieges in prime times. It's the stack&spam playstyle(exact thing in your video) causes lag, not too strict to the size of group, numbers just makes it worse.

Fecius wrote: »

Yep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.
But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...
I need no PvP at all. I am a PvE player forced by ZOS to farm AP for those PvP line skills that can be usefull in PvE and those sets like Cyrodiil Light, etc, which are MUST HAVE in PvE now.

Farm your AP in normal way like everyone else

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]

Fecius · June 2015

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

50k/6h when youre solo? I understand how comes you need such big group to get AP lol... solo I'm usually around 20-30k AP/hour. Man you suck hard. Like very hard.

Yep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.

But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...

Etaniel wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

Well we re getting everynight around 40-50k ap/hour with a 10-12 man group without lagging everybody else out.

So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

What disgusts me about your type-kind of lag-zerg-fest is the fact that in order for you to get AP a whole server must suffer and lag. I certainly acknowledge the fact that primarily its ZoS's fault with the inability of the server's to handle big fights, but the persistence of guilds like yours running around with 50 man trains is something that amazes me. And at the same time I honestly feel sad about you because i think deep down you know that you would have been obliterated against a decent group if there was no lag. But anyway keep up the good work...eh sry the good lag

Let's try? Make this group and let's find another free compain out of prime-time where you will obliterate our raid without lags. With DA it was Haderus pretty much in prime-time, so it became full fast. It was just not the best choise of us for minimum laggs. We are going to make this in a format of every other week event between those who want if there are some.

10-12 people with pugs is better than 20-24 with pugs.
It's really funny how lame that fight was, your group didn't stop spamming their aoe key even when the enemy raid was dead, every one stayed in the enemy ultimates, you just ran head on into their group, it's the most pathetic attempt of PvP I've seen in a long time. And you *** everyone off by lagging everything.
Maybe when your train is alone, you don't lag, but when you collide two idiotic trains like that, the server dies.
Also next time please increase the size of your UI, I was having trouble reading your healthbars

1-2 people with pugs is much better then 10-12! Go solo PvP to save the server!

Actually I love my UI, it reminds me about some other MMO we all know.

But I dont even try to farm AP when I'm solo dude. Just try to get fun and nice outnumbered fights, I dont farm ressources and I dont even wait for ticks the rare times I defend a ressource/keep. In raids of 10-12 we're usually around 40-50k AP/hour over several hours + we dont make the server lag + its much more interesting than spamming 2 buttons and one ult. But true, it might requires too much skill for you.

Good for you. And I can't enjoy any type of PvP. 2 buttons or 20 buttons doesn't matter. In Cyrodiil I need nothing more then AP.

And youre ready to make the server laggs out and destroy everybody's fun only for your AP that will serve a little bit in PvE. Good to hear.

Soris wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!

Pugs, small groups and regular zergs don't cause lag except massive 3-way sieges in prime times. It's the stack&spam playstyle(exact thing in your video) causes lag, not too strict to the size of group, numbers just makes it worse.

Fecius wrote: »

Yep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.
But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...
I need no PvP at all. I am a PvE player forced by ZOS to farm AP for those PvP line skills that can be usefull in PvE and those sets like Cyrodiil Light, etc, which are MUST HAVE in PvE now.

Farm your AP in normal way like everyone else

I farm my AP in leagal way with high efficiency. You are not my boss to tell me that I should do it other way.

Yeah! I'm pure evil!

Report me! Go on, save you planet of people used to look at the world through rose-colored glasses!

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

Fecius · June 2015

Woops, wrong button, sry for doubleposting.

Sanct16 · June 2015

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

50k/6h when youre solo? I understand how comes you need such big group to get AP lol... solo I'm usually around 20-30k AP/hour. Man you suck hard. Like very hard.

Yep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.

But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...

Etaniel wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

Well we re getting everynight around 40-50k ap/hour with a 10-12 man group without lagging everybody else out.

So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

What disgusts me about your type-kind of lag-zerg-fest is the fact that in order for you to get AP a whole server must suffer and lag. I certainly acknowledge the fact that primarily its ZoS's fault with the inability of the server's to handle big fights, but the persistence of guilds like yours running around with 50 man trains is something that amazes me. And at the same time I honestly feel sad about you because i think deep down you know that you would have been obliterated against a decent group if there was no lag. But anyway keep up the good work...eh sry the good lag

Let's try? Make this group and let's find another free compain out of prime-time where you will obliterate our raid without lags. With DA it was Haderus pretty much in prime-time, so it became full fast. It was just not the best choise of us for minimum laggs. We are going to make this in a format of every other week event between those who want if there are some.

10-12 people with pugs is better than 20-24 with pugs.
It's really funny how lame that fight was, your group didn't stop spamming their aoe key even when the enemy raid was dead, every one stayed in the enemy ultimates, you just ran head on into their group, it's the most pathetic attempt of PvP I've seen in a long time. And you *** everyone off by lagging everything.
Maybe when your train is alone, you don't lag, but when you collide two idiotic trains like that, the server dies.
Also next time please increase the size of your UI, I was having trouble reading your healthbars

1-2 people with pugs is much better then 10-12! Go solo PvP to save the server!

Actually I love my UI, it reminds me about some other MMO we all know.

We try to avoid pugs and go to campaigns where AD is outnumbered and go for go for threeway fights at chalman gate for example.

12v24 GvG is a bit uneven as the strategies how to to wipe a bigger organized group include not running into them had to.head but to outplay in positioning, skill coordination and using the moment of surprise.

I always have a hard time identifying what guild an enemy group belongs to so I don't remember fighting your guild but I would bet that we would wipe you in an regular random pvp encounter.

Soris · June 2015

Easy on mouse clicks. You people do the biggest insult to everyone every day who just wants to PLAY

Sanct16 · June 2015

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

50k/6h when youre solo? I understand how comes you need such big group to get AP lol... solo I'm usually around 20-30k AP/hour. Man you suck hard. Like very hard.

Yep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.

But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...

Etaniel wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

Well we re getting everynight around 40-50k ap/hour with a 10-12 man group without lagging everybody else out.

So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

What disgusts me about your type-kind of lag-zerg-fest is the fact that in order for you to get AP a whole server must suffer and lag. I certainly acknowledge the fact that primarily its ZoS's fault with the inability of the server's to handle big fights, but the persistence of guilds like yours running around with 50 man trains is something that amazes me. And at the same time I honestly feel sad about you because i think deep down you know that you would have been obliterated against a decent group if there was no lag. But anyway keep up the good work...eh sry the good lag

Let's try? Make this group and let's find another free compain out of prime-time where you will obliterate our raid without lags. With DA it was Haderus pretty much in prime-time, so it became full fast. It was just not the best choise of us for minimum laggs. We are going to make this in a format of every other week event between those who want if there are some.

10-12 people with pugs is better than 20-24 with pugs.
It's really funny how lame that fight was, your group didn't stop spamming their aoe key even when the enemy raid was dead, every one stayed in the enemy ultimates, you just ran head on into their group, it's the most pathetic attempt of PvP I've seen in a long time. And you *** everyone off by lagging everything.
Maybe when your train is alone, you don't lag, but when you collide two idiotic trains like that, the server dies.
Also next time please increase the size of your UI, I was having trouble reading your healthbars

1-2 people with pugs is much better then 10-12! Go solo PvP to save the server!

Actually I love my UI, it reminds me about some other MMO we all know.

But I dont even try to farm AP when I'm solo dude. Just try to get fun and nice outnumbered fights, I dont farm ressources and I dont even wait for ticks the rare times I defend a ressource/keep. In raids of 10-12 we're usually around 40-50k AP/hour over several hours + we dont make the server lag + its much more interesting than spamming 2 buttons and one ult. But true, it might requires too much skill for you.

Good for you. And I can't enjoy any type of PvP. 2 buttons or 20 buttons doesn't matter. In Cyrodiil I need nothing more then AP.

And youre ready to make the server laggs out and destroy everybody's fun only for your AP that will serve a little bit in PvE. Good to hear.

Soris wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!

Pugs, small groups and regular zergs don't cause lag except massive 3-way sieges in prime times. It's the stack&spam playstyle(exact thing in your video) causes lag, not too strict to the size of group, numbers just makes it worse.

Fecius wrote: »

Yep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.
But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...
I need no PvP at all. I am a PvE player forced by ZOS to farm AP for those PvP line skills that can be usefull in PvE and those sets like Cyrodiil Light, etc, which are MUST HAVE in PvE now.

This is pathetic. Selfish. Disgusting. Shame on ZOS for allowing this shiet. Your actions cause server suffer badly you dumb. Farm your AP in normal way like everyone else

Wow, insults when everything else fails. I farm my AP in leagal way with high efficiency. You are not my boss to tell me that I should do it other way.

Yeah! I'm pure evil! Report me! Go on, save you planet of people used to look at the world through rose-colored glasses!

Well how would you like it, when you could not play your trials because it's laggy as *** because we want to farm pve stuff (and would lag out the server while doing so)?

QuadroTony · June 2015

Most_Awesome wrote: »

If both trains carried on moving and used movement and tactics to beat the others then maybe it would have looked more impressive

but less efficient
so all raids using the same builds, if you try to lead raid yourself and with this your moving tactics - you will be just FOOD in Cyrodiil

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]

Fecius · June 2015

Soris wrote: »

Easy on mouse clicks. You people do the biggest insult to everyone every day who just wants to PLAY

Cry more and blame all world around being sure that you are responsible to talk for everyone.

Sanct16 wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

50k/6h when youre solo? I understand how comes you need such big group to get AP lol... solo I'm usually around 20-30k AP/hour. Man you suck hard. Like very hard.

Yep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.

But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...

Etaniel wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

Well we re getting everynight around 40-50k ap/hour with a 10-12 man group without lagging everybody else out.

So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

What disgusts me about your type-kind of lag-zerg-fest is the fact that in order for you to get AP a whole server must suffer and lag. I certainly acknowledge the fact that primarily its ZoS's fault with the inability of the server's to handle big fights, but the persistence of guilds like yours running around with 50 man trains is something that amazes me. And at the same time I honestly feel sad about you because i think deep down you know that you would have been obliterated against a decent group if there was no lag. But anyway keep up the good work...eh sry the good lag

Let's try? Make this group and let's find another free compain out of prime-time where you will obliterate our raid without lags. With DA it was Haderus pretty much in prime-time, so it became full fast. It was just not the best choise of us for minimum laggs. We are going to make this in a format of every other week event between those who want if there are some.

10-12 people with pugs is better than 20-24 with pugs.
It's really funny how lame that fight was, your group didn't stop spamming their aoe key even when the enemy raid was dead, every one stayed in the enemy ultimates, you just ran head on into their group, it's the most pathetic attempt of PvP I've seen in a long time. And you *** everyone off by lagging everything.
Maybe when your train is alone, you don't lag, but when you collide two idiotic trains like that, the server dies.
Also next time please increase the size of your UI, I was having trouble reading your healthbars

1-2 people with pugs is much better then 10-12! Go solo PvP to save the server!

Actually I love my UI, it reminds me about some other MMO we all know.

We try to avoid pugs and go to campaigns where AD is outnumbered and go for go for threeway fights at chalman gate for example.

12v24 GvG is a bit uneven as the strategies how to to wipe a bigger organized group include not running into them had to.head but to outplay in positioning, skill coordination and using the moment of surprise.

I always have a hard time identifying what guild an enemy group belongs to so I don't remember fighting your guild but I would bet that we would wipe you in an regular random pvp encounter.

Well, we can try make it 12 vs 12. We are for fair play. We are not afraid of losing cause it's a good practice for everyone. What's about random PvP encounter... everything is possible. It can be abush win or random oil or what ever. Sometimes raids used to wipe and it's normal.

QuadroTony · June 2015

Soris wrote: »

Easy on mouse clicks. You people do the biggest insult to everyone every day who just wants to PLAY

and we will do

Fecius · June 2015

Sanct16 wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

50k/6h when youre solo? I understand how comes you need such big group to get AP lol... solo I'm usually around 20-30k AP/hour. Man you suck hard. Like very hard.

Yep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.

But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...

Etaniel wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

You don't need a full raid lagging the server to get AP.

Blah-blah-blah. Show me how you get 150k or more AP for 3h (video or maybe stream). If you can't, then I will use my fastest way. If you can, then I'll try your method. I just don't want to spend in lagging cause of pugs with Meteors Cyrodiil more time I need. And my average solo PvP AP farm was about... 50k a day (5-6 h) what is almost 6 times less it could be in raid. I don't wanna PvP 6h when I can get same for 1h. Can you at last see my point? If you still can't, I'm sorry for you.

Well we re getting everynight around 40-50k ap/hour with a 10-12 man group without lagging everybody else out.

So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

What disgusts me about your type-kind of lag-zerg-fest is the fact that in order for you to get AP a whole server must suffer and lag. I certainly acknowledge the fact that primarily its ZoS's fault with the inability of the server's to handle big fights, but the persistence of guilds like yours running around with 50 man trains is something that amazes me. And at the same time I honestly feel sad about you because i think deep down you know that you would have been obliterated against a decent group if there was no lag. But anyway keep up the good work...eh sry the good lag

Let's try? Make this group and let's find another free compain out of prime-time where you will obliterate our raid without lags. With DA it was Haderus pretty much in prime-time, so it became full fast. It was just not the best choise of us for minimum laggs. We are going to make this in a format of every other week event between those who want if there are some.

10-12 people with pugs is better than 20-24 with pugs.
It's really funny how lame that fight was, your group didn't stop spamming their aoe key even when the enemy raid was dead, every one stayed in the enemy ultimates, you just ran head on into their group, it's the most pathetic attempt of PvP I've seen in a long time. And you *** everyone off by lagging everything.
Maybe when your train is alone, you don't lag, but when you collide two idiotic trains like that, the server dies.
Also next time please increase the size of your UI, I was having trouble reading your healthbars

1-2 people with pugs is much better then 10-12! Go solo PvP to save the server!

Actually I love my UI, it reminds me about some other MMO we all know.

But I dont even try to farm AP when I'm solo dude. Just try to get fun and nice outnumbered fights, I dont farm ressources and I dont even wait for ticks the rare times I defend a ressource/keep. In raids of 10-12 we're usually around 40-50k AP/hour over several hours + we dont make the server lag + its much more interesting than spamming 2 buttons and one ult. But true, it might requires too much skill for you.

Good for you. And I can't enjoy any type of PvP. 2 buttons or 20 buttons doesn't matter. In Cyrodiil I need nothing more then AP.

And youre ready to make the server laggs out and destroy everybody's fun only for your AP that will serve a little bit in PvE. Good to hear.

Soris wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

So, 24 ppl lagging everybody and 10-12 does not? But, if you fight as 10-12, then there are always pugs around you and if they are about 10-12 more ppl, so you become a 20-24ppl lagging everybody! Pugs lagging the server. The Logics!

Pugs, small groups and regular zergs don't cause lag except massive 3-way sieges in prime times. It's the stack&spam playstyle(exact thing in your video) causes lag, not too strict to the size of group, numbers just makes it worse.

Fecius wrote: »

Yep! I'm PvE player who need Vigor and Guard. And I still need 1.5k AP more for it.
But man, well 20-30k AP/h is still less then 50k AP/h, so my farm method is still better. In your posts envy I feel...
I need no PvP at all. I am a PvE player forced by ZOS to farm AP for those PvP line skills that can be usefull in PvE and those sets like Cyrodiil Light, etc, which are MUST HAVE in PvE now.

This is pathetic. Selfish. Disgusting. Shame on ZOS for allowing this shiet. Your actions cause server suffer badly you dumb. Farm your AP in normal way like everyone else

Wow, insults when everything else fails. I farm my AP in leagal way with high efficiency. You are not my boss to tell me that I should do it other way.

Yeah! I'm pure evil! Report me! Go on, save you planet of people used to look at the world through rose-colored glasses!

Well how would you like it, when you could not play your trials because it's laggy as *** because we want to farm pve stuff (and would lag out the server while doing so)?

Man, it's already there. I guess you've never been in trials in prime-time, where mob packs lagging? And even bosses stack and do his abilities after in x2 speed? When you use Nova and it just dissapears, so you get no mitigation that causes wipe. I can show you then:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzpHfwSwBkE

PvPers always cry louder like all world should spin around them.

Cinbri · June 2015

Da WTF. People so proud of being lag zergers that even posted a video of it. Get over with it. You won't change their mind. This useless thread on top coz you trying to convince them that lagging is bad. Obviously, zergers doesn't care about it. So, just stop. Let this thread to be burried to get more usefull threads on top.