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Azura Star
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Satiar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
Knights Paravant -- Co-GM and Raid Lead -- AD Greyhost4 -
FENGRUSH✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Sounds like a job for the leader of the AD conglomerate zerg guild!1 -
emma666✭✭✭✭✭olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESONymeria - Ebonheart - Grand Overlady - Imperial Templar - HavocI wish you good fortune in the wars to come.4 -
Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
I would but I've been in Morocco for the past two weeks.
As for that quote, it's a little out of context, I was mostly referring to the entire thread of Havoc members congratulating themselves on ruining a campaign, and chasing the other guilds away, and how we're all afraid to fight Havoc. That is egotistical and unpleasant.The part about farming level 45s at their gates I just kind of threw in there, because I felt, and still feel, that camping gates is bad enough, but doing it when there's no organized resistance is worse.
I did hear about Deci camping EP gates last night, I wasn't there for it, and I don't like it, but at least you had talented, organized guilds, like your own, there to defend.Edited by Winnamine on May 18, 2015 6:48PMWinni
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Leovolao✭✭✭✭✭olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]Edited by ZOS_ArtG on May 18, 2015 7:06PMtea pot
"What if my problem wasn't that I don't understand people but that I don't like them?"3 -
Jauriel✭✭✭✭Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.1 -
Satiar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
Knights Paravant -- Co-GM and Raid Lead -- AD Greyhost2 -
Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.Winni
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emma666✭✭✭✭✭
You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Nymeria - Ebonheart - Grand Overlady - Imperial Templar - HavocI wish you good fortune in the wars to come.4 -
Jauriel✭✭✭✭Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
Nexus and Havoc are on the leaderboards. It's w/e. People don't run from you ep, per se. I know I don't. I run from BADS who taint the game and when a map becomes atrociously imbalanced.1 -
Satiar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
Either you're looking for an easy win or setting up for a fight, and I respect yall enough to assume the latterEdited by Satiar on May 18, 2015 7:36PMVehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
Knights Paravant -- Co-GM and Raid Lead -- AD Greyhost1 -
Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭
You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right, to do otherwise just seems childish. Hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
Edited by Winnamine on May 18, 2015 7:57PMWinni
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Agrippa_Invisus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]
To re-clarify:
We had locked population to near the point we first lost Ghartok (and we did lose it for a bit), where the population dipped to 2 bars. When the scroll first got picked up, EP was at 2 bars. That was when massive quantities of AD stayed behind our gates, attempting in vain to fight or farm, and the scroll stayed for some reason (still not really clear on why).
The scroll got dropped, then grabbed by Anonymous, but the AD zerg surged forward and washed away the two bars of EP and got the scroll back. At that point, with EP able to hop off the spawnpoint walls into fights, there was just a massive brawl that started at the spawn point and went nearly to the gate with EP and AD fighting everywhere. With that as cover, AD then took the scroll outside the gate and got it beyond Farragut (while we were just attempting to clean out the Ghartok scroll temple and area still) and then we noticed it coming back to the gate.
EP pushed to the gate and killed the scroll carrier on the EP side of the gate where a siege battle ensued over top of the scroll with many, many, many people dying on both sides trying to get to the scroll. EP picked back up to 3 bars around this time or a little after. The scroll then reset to the temple and EP wiped all AD on our side of the gate, and that's where we held for several hours. We did lose the gate once during that time period, rallied at the temple, and pushed AD back out.
Multiple AD guilds were counted amongst those that tried the gate and failed. I know Decibel made it through without the gate being overrun and there was a running battle with them up to the spawn where they eventually wiped, but the gate itself held.Edited by Agrippa_Invisus on May 18, 2015 7:45PMAgrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
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You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right to do otherwise just seems childish. Hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
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Quite frankly it wasn't planned. It's a bit of a stalemate at the moment, where each guild is looking to see whom will leave first, because we don't want to be in the same position where we all leave at once and Azuras has no more AD, or we end up with tons of AD on a separate campaign.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
Starting a pissing contest by telling some to leave while some stay wouldn't be great for AD guild politics...
Personally I was hoping either of the guilds I'm in would have moved already, but I really can't blame them eitherJadokis - AD Redguard DK v16 AR 18
Jàsènn - AD Orc Templar 47 AR 10
Jessèn - AD Dunmer DK v16 AR 9 - Former Empress of Blackwater Blade
Tekllin - AD Altmer Sorcerer v16 AR 18 (Ret.)
Tekklin - AD Bosmer Nightblade v16 AR 12 (Ret.)
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Jauriel✭✭✭✭Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
Azura needed ONE more good ad guild maybe 2. (There already was one there.) Azura did Not need 4 huge ad guilds. We had NPK and MBF there on dc side and GoS and PR on ep side and it was a fun and competitive server. There was almost alsays good fights. I admit dc did dominate early afternoon but only because they woke up to a totally red map every.single.morning.1 -
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You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right to do otherwise just seems childish. Hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
If you're still in Morocco, can you bring me a fez?
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Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »
You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right to do otherwise just seems childish. Hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
If you're still in Morocco, can you bring me a fez?
Haha sure!
I already got Moroccan shoes for Zanini! They're really cute, they have the little tips that turn up....Winni
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✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »
You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right to do otherwise just seems childish. Hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
If you're still in Morocco, can you bring me a fez?
Haha sure!
I already got Moroccan shoes for Zanini! They're really cute, they have the little tips that turn up....
Yes! Fezzes are awesome.
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Tripe✭✭✭olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
I would but I've been in Morocco for the past two weeks.
As for that quote, it's a little out of context, I was mostly referring to the entire thread of Havoc members congratulating themselves on ruining a campaign, and chasing the other guilds away, and how we're all afraid to fight Havoc. That is egotistical and unpleasant.The part about farming level 45s at their gates I just kind of threw in there, because I felt, and still feel, that camping gates is bad enough, but doing it when there's no organized resistance is worse.
I did hear about Deci camping EP gates last night, I wasn't there for it, and I don't like it, but at least you had talented, organized guilds, like your own, there to defend.
Speaking of out of context, you had a post in the hurricane Konishiki thread where you quoted posts from the Pericore poetry thread and stated "If that's what your guild puts out there, then this is what people think of when they think of Havoc.".
I wasn't playing at the time of either of those posts. I wasn't about to go dig into those threads, but it was obvious to me there was some quote mining going on and some were probably taken out of context. Looking back at them, some were more than likely instigated or trollish. Your post provided no context. I picked one quote at random and went to find it. It was if you had deliberately cut out part of a short quote in order to make it look worse than it really was.
your quote:
"Like I said no disrespect to any of the other guilds... it would be nice to have a comparable guild in thornblade though."
Actual quote:
"Like I said no disrespect to any of the other guilds... it would be nice to have a comparable guild in thornblade though. I think it would be fun for both guilds...I'm not gloating just merely asking for competition."
I'm not saying they are, but even if some of those quotes are indefensible, mean-spirited, and egotistical, are you going to tell me, that I can't look through these forums and find equal or worse things coming from people of every guild and faction? How about your own guild members? If I can't find something similar coming from yourself, I'm sure I can go quote mine something..
As for gate camping, I don't do it or condone it, although, I may not be above doing it in the future. For the majority of the time last night, we weren't organized, and had a small group with no leadership. That said, I had a lot of fun, though I was a bit inebriated.
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You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right, hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
Deciblob is just the norm on EP side. I haven't even written your name and i have no idea how my maturity level is based of me misspelling it lol. How you think i would know you are in Morocco and been gone for weeks, i have no clue. What i do know is that you are a Deci-Officer, talking about the negatives of gatecamping while your guild is actively doing it. You also talk about how your guild didn't play on Thornblade because of stacking of AD guilds and how it affected the server, yet deci is in Azura with 3-4 other AD guilds. Nothing more, nothing less. It speaks for itself.Nymeria - Ebonheart - Grand Overlady - Imperial Templar - HavocI wish you good fortune in the wars to come.3 -
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✭✭✭olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
I would but I've been in Morocco for the past two weeks.
As for that quote, it's a little out of context, I was mostly referring to the entire thread of Havoc members congratulating themselves on ruining a campaign, and chasing the other guilds away, and how we're all afraid to fight Havoc. That is egotistical and unpleasant.The part about farming level 45s at their gates I just kind of threw in there, because I felt, and still feel, that camping gates is bad enough, but doing it when there's no organized resistance is worse.
I did hear about Deci camping EP gates last night, I wasn't there for it, and I don't like it, but at least you had talented, organized guilds, like your own, there to defend.
As for gate camping, I don't do it or condone it, although, I may not be above doing it in the future. For the majority of the time last night, we weren't organized, and had a small group with no leadership. That said, I had a lot of fun, though I was a bit inebriated.
Tripe? Inebriated?
wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut? Edited by Agrippa_Invisus on May 18, 2015 8:04PMAgrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
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Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
I would but I've been in Morocco for the past two weeks.
As for that quote, it's a little out of context, I was mostly referring to the entire thread of Havoc members congratulating themselves on ruining a campaign, and chasing the other guilds away, and how we're all afraid to fight Havoc. That is egotistical and unpleasant.The part about farming level 45s at their gates I just kind of threw in there, because I felt, and still feel, that camping gates is bad enough, but doing it when there's no organized resistance is worse.
I did hear about Deci camping EP gates last night, I wasn't there for it, and I don't like it, but at least you had talented, organized guilds, like your own, there to defend.
Speaking of out of context, you had a post in the hurricane Konishiki thread where you quoted posts from the Pericore poetry thread and stated "If that's what your guild puts out there, then this is what people think of when they think of Havoc.".
I wasn't playing at the time of either of those posts. I wasn't about to go dig into those threads, but it was obvious to me there was some quote mining going on and some were probably taken out of context. Looking back at them, some were more than likely instigated or trollish. Your post provided no context. I picked one quote at random and went to find it. It was if you had deliberately cut out part of a short quote in order to make it look worse than it really was.
your quote:
"Like I said no disrespect to any of the other guilds... it would be nice to have a comparable guild in thornblade though."
Actual quote:
"Like I said no disrespect to any of the other guilds... it would be nice to have a comparable guild in thornblade though. I think it would be fun for both guilds...I'm not gloating just merely asking for competition."
I'm not saying they are, but even if some of those quotes are indefensible, mean-spirited, and egotistical, are you going to tell me, that I can't look through these forums and find equal or worse things coming from people of every guild and faction? How about your own guild members? If I can't find something similar coming from yourself, I'm sure I can go quote mine something..
As for gate camping, I don't do it or condone it, although, I may not be above doing it in the future. For the majority of the time last night, we weren't organized, and had a small group with no leadership. That said, I had a lot of fun, though I was a bit inebriated.
I could have used the entire quote, but I thought the fist sentence got the point across. I actually think the second sentence makes it worse, you see there were guilds left on Thorn, seems unnecessarily mean to say that they aren't even competition, whether it's true or not. Either way, it doesn't seem to me that only using half the post changed the meaning of the sentence I did use in any way. I wasn't attempting to deceive, merely to save space.
And yes, you could, I am sure, find quotes from Decibel people that aren't very nice too. I doubt you could find a thread full of them from multiple members of our guild though, if you do, then I stand corrected, but I just don't think there's ever been a thread where a significant portion of Decibel members went out of their way to insult every other guild out there the way it happened in that thread. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong Winni
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Tripe✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
I would but I've been in Morocco for the past two weeks.
As for that quote, it's a little out of context, I was mostly referring to the entire thread of Havoc members congratulating themselves on ruining a campaign, and chasing the other guilds away, and how we're all afraid to fight Havoc. That is egotistical and unpleasant.The part about farming level 45s at their gates I just kind of threw in there, because I felt, and still feel, that camping gates is bad enough, but doing it when there's no organized resistance is worse.
I did hear about Deci camping EP gates last night, I wasn't there for it, and I don't like it, but at least you had talented, organized guilds, like your own, there to defend.
As for gate camping, I don't do it or condone it, although, I may not be above doing it in the future. For the majority of the time last night, we weren't organized, and had a small group with no leadership. That said, I had a lot of fun, though I was a bit inebriated.
Tripe? Inebriated?
wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut?
Yes, it was a rare event. I think I was being a fool and laughing at every encounter. Sometimes, I was just laughing at the shear stupidity of numbers. Then there was that one guy that I kept seeing everywhere. He would charge me repeatedly while I ignored him. The second I turned around, he would run away. Can't tell you how many times it happened. Sorry I don't know his name just know what he looked like. I think I called him "that guy with the big stupid club".
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You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right, hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
Deciblob is just the norm on EP side. I haven't even written your name and i have no idea how my maturity level is based of me misspelling it lol. How you think i would know you are in Morocco and been gone for weeks, i have no clue. What i do know is that you are a Deci-Officer, talking about the negatives of gatecamping while your guild is actively doing it. You also talk about how your guild didn't play on Thornblade because of stacking of AD guilds and how it affected the server, yet deci is in Azura with 3-4 other AD guilds. Nothing more, nothing less. It speaks for itself.
I didn't expect you to know I was in Morocco, that's why I told you. I was explaining that not only was I not involved in any gate camping, I haven't been there for the past two weeks at all because I have been away, so whatever Decibel has done in that time, you'll need to take up with someone else.
And I did not say that we left Thorn because of AD guild stacking affecting the server, I said that even without the other AD guilds there, the server couldn't handle all the organized groups. Which is why all the guilds can't be on one server, not just the AD guilds.
Winni
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You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right, hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
Deciblob is just the norm on EP side. I haven't even written your name and i have no idea how my maturity level is based of me misspelling it lol. How you think i would know you are in Morocco and been gone for weeks, i have no clue. What i do know is that you are a Deci-Officer, talking about the negatives of gatecamping while your guild is actively doing it. You also talk about how your guild didn't play on Thornblade because of stacking of AD guilds and how it affected the server, yet deci is in Azura with 3-4 other AD guilds. Nothing more, nothing less. It speaks for itself.
I didn't expect you to know I was in Morocco, that's why I told you. I was explaining that not only was I not involved in any gate camping, I haven't been there for the past two weeks at all because I have been away, so whatever Decibel has done in that time, you'll need to take up with someone else.
And I did not say that we left Thorn because of AD guild stacking affecting the server, I said that even without the other AD guilds there, the server couldn't handle all the organized groups. Which is why all the guilds can't be on one server, not just the AD guilds.
FENGRUSH is disappointed you allowed this gate camping to occur. You have failed Him.1 -
Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭
You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right, hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
Deciblob is just the norm on EP side. I haven't even written your name and i have no idea how my maturity level is based of me misspelling it lol. How you think i would know you are in Morocco and been gone for weeks, i have no clue. What i do know is that you are a Deci-Officer, talking about the negatives of gatecamping while your guild is actively doing it. You also talk about how your guild didn't play on Thornblade because of stacking of AD guilds and how it affected the server, yet deci is in Azura with 3-4 other AD guilds. Nothing more, nothing less. It speaks for itself.
I didn't expect you to know I was in Morocco, that's why I told you. I was explaining that not only was I not involved in any gate camping, I haven't been there for the past two weeks at all because I have been away, so whatever Decibel has done in that time, you'll need to take up with someone else.
And I did not say that we left Thorn because of AD guild stacking affecting the server, I said that even without the other AD guilds there, the server couldn't handle all the organized groups. Which is why all the guilds can't be on one server, not just the AD guilds.
FENGRUSH is disappointed you allowed this gate camping to occur. You have failed Him.
I'm bad and I feel bad
Winni
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Tripe✭✭✭olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.
I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
I would but I've been in Morocco for the past two weeks.
As for that quote, it's a little out of context, I was mostly referring to the entire thread of Havoc members congratulating themselves on ruining a campaign, and chasing the other guilds away, and how we're all afraid to fight Havoc. That is egotistical and unpleasant.The part about farming level 45s at their gates I just kind of threw in there, because I felt, and still feel, that camping gates is bad enough, but doing it when there's no organized resistance is worse.
I did hear about Deci camping EP gates last night, I wasn't there for it, and I don't like it, but at least you had talented, organized guilds, like your own, there to defend.
Speaking of out of context, you had a post in the hurricane Konishiki thread where you quoted posts from the Pericore poetry thread and stated "If that's what your guild puts out there, then this is what people think of when they think of Havoc.".
I wasn't playing at the time of either of those posts. I wasn't about to go dig into those threads, but it was obvious to me there was some quote mining going on and some were probably taken out of context. Looking back at them, some were more than likely instigated or trollish. Your post provided no context. I picked one quote at random and went to find it. It was if you had deliberately cut out part of a short quote in order to make it look worse than it really was.
your quote:
"Like I said no disrespect to any of the other guilds... it would be nice to have a comparable guild in thornblade though."
Actual quote:
"Like I said no disrespect to any of the other guilds... it would be nice to have a comparable guild in thornblade though. I think it would be fun for both guilds...I'm not gloating just merely asking for competition."
I'm not saying they are, but even if some of those quotes are indefensible, mean-spirited, and egotistical, are you going to tell me, that I can't look through these forums and find equal or worse things coming from people of every guild and faction? How about your own guild members? If I can't find something similar coming from yourself, I'm sure I can go quote mine something..
As for gate camping, I don't do it or condone it, although, I may not be above doing it in the future. For the majority of the time last night, we weren't organized, and had a small group with no leadership. That said, I had a lot of fun, though I was a bit inebriated.
I could have used the entire quote, but I thought the fist sentence got the point across. I actually think the second sentence makes it worse, you see there were guilds left on Thorn, seems unnecessarily mean to say that they aren't even competition, whether it's true or not. Either way, it doesn't seem to me that only using half the post changed the meaning of the sentence I did use in any way. I wasn't attempting to deceive, merely to save space.
And yes, you could, I am sure, find quotes from Decibel people that aren't very nice too. I doubt you could find a thread full of them from multiple members of our guild though, if you do, then I stand corrected, but I just don't think there's ever been a thread where a significant portion of Decibel members went out of their way to insult every other guild out there the way it happened in that thread. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong
I'm at a loss as to how "I think it would be fun for both guilds...I'm not gloating just merely asking for competition." makes it worse.
Reading it, and knowing what I know, I would think this person was disappointed that certain guilds might have left the campaign, or never been there in the first place. I would also think that he wishes that he could engage in bloody warfare with them. It seems that by saying "it would be fun for both guilds" he is attempting to convince those guilds that it would be....."fun" to be on the same campaign. I'm also pretty sure that if he were allowed to reword the statement, he would direct it towards guilds of every faction.
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CN_Daniel✭✭✭✭You know, some of the best times I had in Azura was when TKO tried to come Emp flip it (if we wuz by chance on then).
We had 50vs50 battles with zero lag.
Then when Picard would rally his troops and we'd have epic battles between bleak and chal for hours...
ahhh, the good 'ol days.0