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[Suggestion] Megaserver AvA rankings

Taonnor
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Today i was in pvp and thinking about, what can i do now? Im larger than ava rank 24, i have won campaigns and so on. There are no "hard targets" for me in AvA anymore. Eventually my next target is hitting AvA rank 50, but for what? Having nice pvp moments can be a target, but in Cyrodiil? Im not a people who is happy with nice pvp fights. I want "hard targets" like hitting a rank to get anything.

So the question is: What we can implement with low effort to give players hard targets?

The first idea that i have is pretty simple.

AvA rankings for the hole megaserver.

There you can see:
- Player with most overall AP
- Player with most overall AP a week
- Deathblows
- ...

With not much creativity can be the list very long for any art of rankings.

Like said, the rankings are for the hole megaserver. So you see for example the player with the most lifetime AP. Like the emperor of the emperors :smile: This rankings can be retroactive. I mean if you look into your character screen you can calculate your overall AP with adding all ranks and your actual AP. So very simple to implement that ranking...


Expand the rankings for guilds too

Like rankings for single players can be rankings for guilds too.

For example:
- Guild with most overall AP
- Guild with most overall AP in week

This overall AP rankings starts at zero and are very simple too. You only need to add gained AP's from all players of the guild.

But which guild will be used for rankings?

All knows you got 5 guilds in game. So which guild get your gained AP's ? Every player can choose a "home guild" like the campaign system. Only for your "home guild" your AP's will be registred.



Why i think rankings will be a motivation for players?

I got personal interests in overall rankings and im inspired by a presentation from R2Games CEO (Jared Psigoda). The CEO speeks about chinese FTP games and their success. Here the LINK. Look at minute 16++ (Ladderboards, Ladderboards for EVERYTHING). The cinese peoples are very creative to create games with no real content, but enjoy peoples.


And i think Jared Psigoda speeks right. The players are crazy about rankings. If i think we got overall rankings for AvA, i think i got higher motivation to play more PvP to get more AP to get higher in the overall rankings. Its frustrating for me to see the campaign rankings every campaign restart resetted. There is no long term ranking...

So what is against overall rankings? Please discuss!!
Edited by Taonnor on May 12, 2015 9:42PM
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  • Davadin
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    it's quite a challenge i must say, to decipher your post...

    ....but overall i agree.

    it doesn't hurt me - someone who doesn't really care about ranking - but if it gives purpose for others, why not? super easy to implement too.

    if ZOS is afraid that it'll impact the server performance, just refresh the rating every... 3 hour? every day? doesn't have to be real-time.
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  • driosketch
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    I would think this kind of low effort recognition grind found in F2P games is something players would want to get away from.
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  • Taonnor
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    Davadin wrote: »
    it's quite a challenge i must say, to decipher your post...

    Sorry! English is not my native language. I hope you understand the content of my idea. :wink:
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  • ToRelax
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    Taonnor wrote: »
    Davadin wrote: »
    it's quite a challenge i must say, to decipher your post...

    Sorry! English is not my native language. I hope you understand the content of my idea. :wink:

    Not only that... ^^
    Taonnor wrote: »
    [...]
    Heute war ich im PvP und habe darüber nachgedacht, was ich eigentlich machen kann. Hmm. Ich habe AvA Rang 24 überschritten, ich habe Kampagnen gewonnen, usw. usw. An sich gibt es dann kein richtiges Ziel mehr, außer AvA Rang 50 erreichen oder "schönes" PvP haben. Das kann auf Dauer sehr langweilig werden.

    [...]

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  • Taonnor
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    oh

    Thanks @ToRelax ^^
    Edited by Taonnor on May 12, 2015 9:43PM
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  • Teargrants
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    I DEMAND AN ERP LEADERBOARD!!!11!
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  • IxSTALKERxI
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    I'm not sure how accurate the leader board would be as some factions are easier to farm than others. Also introducing something like this would only put more emphasis on farming AP instead of playing the alliance war.
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  • Etaniel
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    I'm not sure how accurate the leader board would be as some factions are easier to farm than others. Also introducing something like this would only put more emphasis on farming AP instead of playing the alliance war.

    Some factions are easier to farm than others? what? In any case it's just a representation of the pvp scene, and if there are no rewards, just a ranking, I don't see the issue.
    I'm all for it !
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  • Kas
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    Would love it.
    at some point you have to accept that it's pretty pointless to go for factions #1 or even class #1 if you have a job and/or other obligations. However, it is still fun to compete with the people in your "bracket" and see if you can rise some ranks.

    Further, including not only an overall, but also weekly leaderboard, would have a similar purpose than those campaign wide leaderboards but would actually comparable bewteen campaigns and maybe stop players for rushing to same campaign in order to get some recognition (for whatever that may be worth).

    Finally, the guild scores would be incredibly awesome but 500-man trading guilds would probably spoil the experience in a way.
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  • Etaniel
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    Kas wrote: »
    Finally, the guild scores would be incredibly awesome but 500-man trading guilds would probably spoil the experience in a way.

    Let's make it simple, the AP you earn goes towards your guild's ranking only if you are wearing that guild's tabard. Makes sense no?
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  • Kas
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    Kas wrote: »
    Finally, the guild scores would be incredibly awesome but 500-man trading guilds would probably spoil the experience in a way.

    Let's make it simple, the AP you earn goes towards your guild's ranking only if you are wearing that guild's tabard. Makes sense no?

    yeah, sounds good
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  • Ifthir_ESO
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    uh this is already visible in leaderboards?
  • RedTalon
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    Teargrants wrote: »
    I DEMAND AN ERP LEADERBOARD!!!11!

    That would be epic, even though don't do that in this game myself
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