Darkonflare15 wrote: »

I tested this on the PTS. With the treasure hunter passive in the Champion system the loot changes differently. This is also in a lower zone since I had to test in area where I knew where a lot of chests spawn at.

Without the passive all chests give you green items and it is chance to get set item.

Opening up a simple chest gives you green items and some times I get a set item.
Opening up a Intermediate chest gives you blue items and sometimes get a set item.
I have not open a advanced chest yet.
Here is open Master chest.


It did not give me purple items or gold items but it does give me two different green set items and a blue item.

I found a treasure map in one of chest here is it contents.


Here it actually gives me a purple item and a green item set and a blue item.

So it is good that this perk changes the loot. It just too bad that this passive is a 75 point unlock.

Thank you for testing this, very informative. But I stand fast on my statement that reward vs investment is terrible. ZoS can you please address this?

maryriv wrote: »

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

I tested this on the PTS. With the treasure hunter passive in the Champion system the loot changes differently. This is also in a lower zone since I had to test in area where I knew where a lot of chests spawn at.

Without the passive all chests give you green items and it is chance to get set item.

Opening up a simple chest gives you green items and some times I get a set item.
Opening up a Intermediate chest gives you blue items and sometimes get a set item.
I have not open a advanced chest yet.
Here is open Master chest.


It did not give me purple items or gold items but it does give me two different green set items and a blue item.

I found a treasure map in one of chest here is it contents.


Here it actually gives me a purple item and a green item set and a blue item.

So it is good that this perk changes the loot. It just too bad that this passive is a 75 point unlock.

Thank you for testing this, very informative. But I stand fast on my statement that reward vs investment is terrible. ZoS can you please address this?

Yeah understandable but the scary thing is if they actually make treasure chests have rare and unique items. We will start having even more threads about how other wait for players to fail getting treasure chest and in up losing out on cool items. It will be rise of the Treasure chest Trolls They will hide, wait, and watch you fail and then they will swoop in and gobble up your future loot.

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

maryriv wrote: »

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

I tested this on the PTS. With the treasure hunter passive in the Champion system the loot changes differently. This is also in a lower zone since I had to test in area where I knew where a lot of chests spawn at.

Without the passive all chests give you green items and it is chance to get set item.

Opening up a simple chest gives you green items and some times I get a set item.
Opening up a Intermediate chest gives you blue items and sometimes get a set item.
I have not open a advanced chest yet.
Here is open Master chest.


It did not give me purple items or gold items but it does give me two different green set items and a blue item.

I found a treasure map in one of chest here is it contents.


Here it actually gives me a purple item and a green item set and a blue item.

So it is good that this perk changes the loot. It just too bad that this passive is a 75 point unlock.

Thank you for testing this, very informative. But I stand fast on my statement that reward vs investment is terrible. ZoS can you please address this?

Yeah understandable but the scary thing is if they actually make treasure chests have rare and unique items. We will start having even more threads about how other wait for players to fail getting treasure chest and in up losing out on cool items. It will be rise of the Treasure chest Trolls They will hide, wait, and watch you fail and then they will swoop in and gobble up your future loot.

That would be neat

They are a complete waste of time and is a joke when it comes to loot!

You guys realize that if chests were made with better loot people would farm heck out of them. Then people would complain about how items found in chests should be a lot harder to get and there shouldn't be as many chests. Then zos seeing reaction once again nerfs chests to try make people happy. But again people are now angry cause drop rate was changed of chests zos doesn't like its player base and then people will try to connect some sort of imaginary dots in their head. That zos did this to make people buy something in the crown store.

Destiny did a similar stupid thing. They placed "Gold Chests" throughout the worlds that were sorta like achievements to go find. However, by the time you got them all they only had dumb greens and a beginner sparrow...BOOO!

Ganacampo wrote: »

I love finding the maps and finding the treasures.

I don't really care about the loot, plus sometimes it even is useful.

You don't care about the loot, in a RPG....
o.............k.

maryriv wrote: »

For some reason loot seems lackluster in this game compared to WoW, EQ, AC and AC2. There were motes that were very rare and used in crafting that dropped in AC2 and Rare mounts/pets that dropped off mobs in WoW.

Here chests give you... green vendor trash. Treasure maps give you... green vendor trash. You go to a deep dark dungeon pick a difficult chest and get... green vendor trash.... Find a long lost treasure map search all over dig it up open the chest and... green vendor trash.

If you are lucky you will get a blue or purple but its still junk, no set bonuses nor anything rare.

There's no random chances to get awesome loot anywhere and it just seems boring.

they arent

CE treasure chest were garbage as well. I tried my hardest to keep them and use them but bank space was so precious that I had to delete from lvl 40 up.

I was not getting anything worth my time to do them anyway.

the only treasure maps worth it are the survey maps from the dailies. there is literally no reason to go looking for the regular ones, the rewards are not worth it.

Even with the mod that marks the location of whatever map you have, its just not worth trekking out to the X, you could get better rewards from killing same level enemies than you could from map chests.

I just destory any I pick up these days

I don't mind the loot quality of treasure chests. As above seen you are able to increase that via champion system.

I would be bothered more to use those treasure maps, if there would be an achievement for them (Find all treasure maps in Deeshan as an example).

MornaBaine wrote: »

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

I tested this on the PTS. With the treasure hunter passive in the Champion system the loot changes differently. This is also in a lower zone since I had to test in area where I knew where a lot of chests spawn at.

Without the passive all chests give you green items and it is chance to get set item.

Opening up a simple chest gives you green items and some times I get a set item.
Opening up a Intermediate chest gives you blue items and sometimes get a set item.
I have not open a advanced chest yet.
Here is open Master chest.


It did not give me purple items or gold items but it does give me two different green set items and a blue item.

I found a treasure map in one of chest here is it contents.


Here it actually gives me a purple item and a green item set and a blue item.

So it is good that this perk changes the loot. It just too bad that this passive is a 75 point unlock.

I had no idea this existed as part of the Champion system and I have to say I'm really disappointed. How does it even make sense that buried treasure magically gets better if you take this perk? WHY should that even be the case? There have been so many GOOD player suggestions for improving the treasure maps but once again ZOS has been completely deaf to player suggestions and instead gone and done something NO ONE actually wanted. This is right up there with the awful decision to tie DYES, a simple cosmetic of all things, to achievements and making all the best ones impossible to get except for a tiny handful of players. GG ZOS.

i 100% agree with it being tied to the champion system- spend a hundred points get better loot from chests....... yeah how about replacing that with something more in line with the champion system since its primarily a combat related system (my stance applies to the "get more resources from a node" passive as well). it is geared towards the dedicated players and not the "i play because it is currently cool to play" crowd. i ain't a big fan, but i won't waste time worrying about it.

the rest i would say is hog wash. if there is no incentive to do certain achievements, people aren't inclined to do them- players that don't play, are players that don't pay. dyes are kind of a silly reward, but to act like they have any malice against players that "can't" get them (these days that predominately means won't try to get them), is pretty weak logic. in the few parts that are heavily against the player, are typically irrelevant. its just a dye, i don't see the need to complain why they emperor gets some super cool dye that i can't have by virtue of my not trying or simply don't have the time to do it. i am a big completionist, so it erks me to high heaven that i know i won't get the achievement. i just suck it up and accept it, because it is what it is.

pitkanencomplexeb17_ESO wrote: »

I still have a bunch of CE maps cluttering my vault because they are complete garbage.

i have a mule dedicated to holding all of them