NewBlacksmurf wrote: »I think options are always welcomed but where you're trying to add benefits or options that don't exist in the current ESO plus you're going to create confusion.
I think the idea of different prices and dropping off benefits as the price is reduced it sounds feasible but in business usually companies go with a K.I.S.S. Acronym for the customers and employees.
1 ESO plus (as it is today)
2 ESO value (pick 1 or 2 ) from the current plan and price varies
That's prob about all that would be good to see
c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »@Heromofo
Not sure if sarcasm or...?
@Slurg
I agree. If there was actually content being added than it would be fine.
There is not. There has not and will not be anything added for months.
Current subscribers are paying for nothing. Subscribers are upset and cancelling.
The entire concept behind this is that people are upset and demanding action be taken, there are multiple other topics on the matter coming up on almost a daily basis. The current model is a failure.
By the time any DLC is actually added a current subscriber will probably have enough crowns to buy it three times over. Meanwhile, I could buy it at retail value and spend considerably less and all I'd be missing is a 10% bonus.
Does that seem fair to you? Your loyalty is worth a 10% bonus. One I can probably buy on the store for half the price in a matter of a few months.
c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »@Heromofo
I plan on playing on console (PS4) myself.
That's why I want to see a change. I want to be a subscriber. I really do.
However, they don't get anything more than a 10% bonus. By the time DLC is released subscribers will be able to buy it three times over with excess crowns.
Non-subscribers will be able to get it at retail price and spend considerably less.
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Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC) Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP) Manut Redguard Temp (AD) Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP) Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD) |
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The problem I see with this idea is that it would be very confusing to new players just getting into the game.
"Fair"? This isn't a democracy, this is a company providing a service. If people do not find value in the service right now because included items are missing (DLC), they should not pay for it. That is the way to incentivize the company to provide value. Not the way people are throwing tantrums on the forums and threatening to unsubscribe at some future time unless some laundry list of demands is met. Just unsubscribe until the company offers all of the items included in the subscription. It's very easy I promise.c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »@Heromofo
Not sure if sarcasm or...?
@Slurg
I agree. If there was actually content being added than it would be fine.
There is not. There has not and will not be anything added for months.
Current subscribers are paying for nothing. Subscribers are upset and cancelling.
The entire concept behind this is that people are upset and demanding action be taken, there are multiple other topics on the matter coming up on almost a daily basis. The current model is a failure.
By the time any DLC is actually added a current subscriber will probably have enough crowns to buy it three times over. Meanwhile, I could buy it at retail value and spend considerably less and all I'd be missing is a 10% bonus.
Does that seem fair to you? Your loyalty is worth a 10% bonus. One I can probably buy on the store for half the price in a matter of a few months.
c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »@NewBlacksmurf & @nastuug
The idea is to include many of the requested features that people have been requesting.
The amount of topics requesting the subscription model to be changed shows the current features are not enough. Especially since they only cater to those interested in the crown shop.
However, I really like the idea of a pick & choose option. Each option could have a designated price and you could customize your subscription to get what you want. Nothing more, nothing less.
Edit: Added to original post and added @nastuug.
c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »
NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »@Bouvin
That was my intent behind "High Priority." I should probably re-word it as "PvP Queue Priority" is what people refer to is as. I wasn't able to remember the term people used.
@Heromofo
I can't guarantee my friends would be subscribing but I know I would if more benefits were included.
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@UrQuan
The packages would definitely need to contain more information, explaining exactly what each does and why a player would want it.
Most people would buy the game and play a while before subscribing, though. They would know the terminology and why they would want each package by the time they are willing to buy.
@Slurg
You're right. This is why I am not a subscriber at all.
With the current model I never will be. ZOS will never release DLC at a fast enough rate to justify their requested cost and the 10% bonus is practically useless.
@NewBlacksmurf
The idea is people want more. Some people don't. Some want less.
The tiers are intended to create an affordable rate for everyone with all the features requested provided.
Ideally, everybody could be happy.
Doesn't seem like that's true though, as I seem to have a whole one or two supporters.
Strange how everyone who has been posting about this isn't here to weigh in.
Perhaps the plan is inefficient. That's why I am asking for feedback.
It cannot be questioned that many are unsatisfied, though. I only am trying to provide a resolution for everyone.
I don't think there's anything wrong with this type of model, but at least get the dollars to crown correct. The only tier listed that would grant the appropriate amount of crowns is the ESO+ Platinum, and it already gets more perks than any other tier. Either lower its crowns per month by 500 to match the others, or raise all of the other tiers' crowns per month to meet the actual value of crowns (e.g. $4.99/month = 500 crowns, $9.99/month = 1000 crowns, etc). I prefer the latter as that will at least make subscribers feel like they're getting their crowns worth out of a subscription.
c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »I don't think there's anything wrong with this type of model, but at least get the dollars to crown correct. The only tier listed that would grant the appropriate amount of crowns is the ESO+ Platinum, and it already gets more perks than any other tier. Either lower its crowns per month by 500 to match the others, or raise all of the other tiers' crowns per month to meet the actual value of crowns (e.g. $4.99/month = 500 crowns, $9.99/month = 1000 crowns, etc). I prefer the latter as that will at least make subscribers feel like they're getting their crowns worth out of a subscription.
- The concept is to trade crowns for more benefits.
- Platinum is the most expensive, thus receives the biggest bonus.
However, you are right. It definitely doesn't seem balanced. I will adjust it accordingly.
c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »I don't think there's anything wrong with this type of model, but at least get the dollars to crown correct. The only tier listed that would grant the appropriate amount of crowns is the ESO+ Platinum, and it already gets more perks than any other tier. Either lower its crowns per month by 500 to match the others, or raise all of the other tiers' crowns per month to meet the actual value of crowns (e.g. $4.99/month = 500 crowns, $9.99/month = 1000 crowns, etc). I prefer the latter as that will at least make subscribers feel like they're getting their crowns worth out of a subscription.
- The concept is to trade crowns for more benefits.
- Platinum is the most expensive, thus receives the biggest bonus.
However, you are right. It definitely doesn't seem balanced. I will adjust it accordingly.
I think you gain the added benefits for subscribing. You should get the crowns you pay for.