Please Don't Offer Race Changes (Poll)

  • Father
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    I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.
    Race change in crown store !! +Preview window with style changes.
  • jluceyub17_ESO
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    Where's the "I don't want race change available, but would use it if it was",
  • Junkogen
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    I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.
    Why don't they just balance the racials? It's not hard. Give every race a 10% boost to magicka or stamina, some regen or something, and then add some fluff crap like increased swim speed, and some inferior resistance like to frost or disease and call it a day. At least the character has increased resources in some fashion.

    Just look at what people pick and for what reasons, that's what people want. They want the big resource boosts. So make other races have similar benefits while keeping some of the more useless passives for flavor.
    Edited by Junkogen on April 29, 2015 12:15AM
  • akray21
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    I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.
    I will never understand why people are against race changes... That is like me being against someone getting their own haircut IRL... IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU!
  • Lenikus
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    I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.
    akray21 wrote: »
    I will never understand why people are against race changes... That is like me being against someone getting their own haircut IRL... IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU!

    The thing is that it gives an opening for this to become, in a extreme scenario a P2W, if they decide to 'balance' some classes and one ends up OP for something, then everyone will pay, and change, then, after a couple weeks, they nerf that race, and people have to change back, and so on.... it's already either imperials, dunmer or altmer in Cyrodiil...
    But then again, people reroll and grind just as easily... not really that much of a big deal then...

    Thing is, i have no problem if the change is merely cosmetic. and you keep your racials, and you just 'look like' the other race, like that dunmer from Reaper's March that makes a potion that turned him into an Argonian.. then It's okay, all fun and games.
    ... Mai cave. >:3
  • BrassRazoo
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    I won't use, but don't care if they add race changes.
    I'd like to change my race and class!
  • Ajaxduo
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    I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.
    More options and versatility is never a bad thing. Racial changes, appearance changes, etc are in my opinion what should be a 'standard' option in an MMO. Being able to alter things however small freshens up the games environment and offers players another way to support ESO now that a subscription isn't required. I would like to add that If the majority of ESO's community is concerned about racial imbalance in favour of percentage stat increasing passives then maybe they should alter how the bonuses work, not completely remove them. Make Tough, Conditioning and Gift of Magnus available to all races. But, still keep one or two passives unique to a race to keep ESO reminiscent of other a Elder Scrolls games. Bretons keep Magicka Mastery, Imperials keep Red Diamond, Redguards keep Adrenaline Rush, etc. To be honest they could take this opportunity to expand on racial passives.
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  • AngryNord
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    I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.
    They should completely redo the way racial passives work, so you get to pick from a pool.

    They should only do that if they remove "Elder Scrolls" from the game's title at the same time.
  • AngryNord
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    I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.
    akray21 wrote: »
    I will never understand why people are against race changes... That is like me being against someone getting their own haircut IRL... IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU!

    There's a VERY BIG difference between getting a new haircut and going from hispanic to Asian.
  • AngryNord
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    I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.
    Ajaxduo wrote: »
    Make Tough, Conditioning and Gift of Magnus available to all races.

    No
  • Iduyenn
    Iduyenn
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    I want racial change, but only the looks.
    If you want to change your passives, you World have to reroll!
  • BuggeX
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    I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.
    They should add a racial ulti like in the Es games. Orc with Berserk, Darkelf with cloak, Well imperial with a uselles ***, Woodelf wich can make a pet to follow you (in teso for ever until it dies) and so on.

    IF they do this they also have to add the malus a racial has.
    altmer is the ultimativ magica class, but has a huge malus on strengh (hp) and Speed.
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  • Divad Zarn
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    I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.
    Eh and what about players who want to change their race only cuz they want to enjoy other race as RP part? Pointless, there should be race/appearance/fraction changes because people tastes get change by time/game progression and we should not be forced to lvl up another character ONLY because we dont like our currect character appearance/race.
  • Jitterbug
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    Zhoyzu wrote: »
    I want my high elf to be an argonian

    I want EVERYTHING to be argonian!
  • byrom101b16_ESO
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    I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.
    With significant class changes, significant core mechanic changes and everyone who is concerned about optimisation having to jump around like a cat on a hot tin roof to adjust, racial change options only make sense UNLESS they rebalance the races better.

    As a Breton Sorcerer, I find my 3% spell reduction rather poor now compared to the Altmer passive for damage in the new uncapped world.

    With CP allowing me to gallop over the tipping point between magicka budgeting in long fights to 'ease of supply', it means less and less as time goes on. But the Altmer passive continues to deliver strong benefit.

    This irritates me no end.

    But I would be feeling considerably worse if I was for instance playing an Argonian!

    I once suggested on a now buried thread that probably the most elegant way to resolve this was to offer 'racial cross training' quests for races to learn some of the other races passives within an Alliance. Then people could tweak their characters and not feel so disadvantaged.

    But whatever happens - something needs to give to deal with this now considerable imbalance.
  • Olivierko
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    I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.
    The only reason I'm for a racial change service is the fact that some races have superior passives for certain builds.

    I've always played Khajiits, so both my characters are cats, a DK and a NB.

    The problem with the Khajiit race is the fact that it's missing flat bonuses to attributes whilst some other classes offer +10% or more.

    Implementing a sub-racial or something similar where you could pick between different passive setups would suit me well (which I highly doubt that ZOS is working on) rather than having to change race and most likely name.

    A fair first balance would be to ensure that all races have some flat bonus to attributes now when the soft caps are removed, unfortunately, races matter a lot and they will matter even more once/if we max out our champion points.

    With that being said, I'd rather see cats and lizards have their passives re-done than to reroll Breton/Imperial.
    Edited by Olivierko on April 29, 2015 8:50AM
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  • Milktray
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    I won't use, but don't care if they add race changes.
    Better they put race changes in the store than xp potions

    A race change doesn't exactly get you anywhere faster and seeing the prices on the Crown store it'd probably cost enough that you only use it if you have to. Race/Gender change won't change things much but bring in revenue they 'might' use to fix bugs, get out new content

    Notice i did say 'might' lol
    ZoS please understand everyone thinks and pronounces things differently, so please add to your 'rules' that things get removed if the Mod doesn't actually quite understand phrasing
  • akray21
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    I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.
    Lenikus wrote: »
    akray21 wrote: »
    I will never understand why people are against race changes... That is like me being against someone getting their own haircut IRL... IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU!

    The thing is that it gives an opening for this to become, in a extreme scenario a P2W, if they decide to 'balance' some classes and one ends up OP for something, then everyone will pay, and change, then, after a couple weeks, they nerf that race, and people have to change back, and so on.... it's already either imperials, dunmer or altmer in Cyrodiil...
    But then again, people reroll and grind just as easily... not really that much of a big deal then...

    Thing is, i have no problem if the change is merely cosmetic. and you keep your racials, and you just 'look like' the other race, like that dunmer from Reaper's March that makes a potion that turned him into an Argonian.. then It's okay, all fun and games.

    You can't use slippery slope arguments. Passives are why people want race change, and why ZOS is going to implement them. No one wants to grind to VR14 to change their race (especially now that they nerfed all griding spots). I will buy race change day 1 no matter the cost and so will many others, that is why it's going to happen.
  • Rook_Master
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    I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.
    akray21 wrote: »
    Lenikus wrote: »
    akray21 wrote: »
    I will never understand why people are against race changes... That is like me being against someone getting their own haircut IRL... IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU!

    The thing is that it gives an opening for this to become, in a extreme scenario a P2W, if they decide to 'balance' some classes and one ends up OP for something, then everyone will pay, and change, then, after a couple weeks, they nerf that race, and people have to change back, and so on.... it's already either imperials, dunmer or altmer in Cyrodiil...
    But then again, people reroll and grind just as easily... not really that much of a big deal then...

    Thing is, i have no problem if the change is merely cosmetic. and you keep your racials, and you just 'look like' the other race, like that dunmer from Reaper's March that makes a potion that turned him into an Argonian.. then It's okay, all fun and games.

    You can't use slippery slope arguments. Passives are why people want race change, and why ZOS is going to implement them. No one wants to grind to VR14 to change their race (especially now that they nerfed all griding spots). I will buy race change day 1 no matter the cost and so will many others, that is why it's going to happen.

    Pretty much this is why they won't balance the passives.

    People are lining up right now with their money in their hands to switch to Imperial and Altmer.
  • Slurg
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    I won't use, but don't care if they add race changes.
    They should completely redo the way racial passives work, so you get to pick from a pool.

    You get to pick:

    1. Attribute bonus
    a. 10% health
    b. 10% magicka
    c. 10% stamina

    2. Regen bonus
    a. 10% health
    b. 10% magicka
    c. 10% stamina

    You don't get to pick:

    3. Racial Flavor
    a. Orc Charge
    b. Dunmer Fire Resist
    c. Khajiit stealth damage bonus


    It boggles my mind that people are in favor of race changes without balancing the passives or revamping them.

    Argonians will go extinct.
    I will not give up on my Argonian! Even if I am the only one left standing and crowds gather round to point and laugh at the dummy who still plays an Argonian.

    I like your suggestion much better since it keeps a little racial flavor for the character but allows selection of more appropriate build passives. Slurg would not have to be so lonely if something like this was implemented.
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  • Nostramo
    Nostramo
    I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.
    No. What is next, class changes?
  • akray21
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    I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.
    No. What is next, class changes?

    Again with the slippery slope argument, you people have to stop using that, it is not a valid argument... What is next? The end of the world? That is eventually where that argument leads... Race changes lead to the end of the world...
  • Lenikus
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    I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.
    akray21 wrote: »
    No. What is next, class changes?

    Again with the slippery slope argument, you people have to stop using that, it is not a valid argument... What is next? The end of the world? That is eventually where that argument leads... Race changes lead to the end of the world...
    I'm so hoping that in the patch it is implemented, they nerf imperial's HP to level it with redguard and buff Argonians for serious disease/poison resist
    I'd want to see how many people would change their races then.

    But hey, why are we even bothering with this, again.. If a Motif goes for 5.000 Crowns...
    how much would this go for? 8.000? 10.000? I'd like to see just that :3
    ... Mai cave. >:3
  • d.zid.816b16_ESO
    I won't use, but don't care if they add race changes.
    I dont thnk ill be personally using it, and other people using it won't effect me.. So yeah I really have no problem with this.
  • Mataata
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    I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.
    I don't want people to be able to change their race. It'd only allow min/maxers even more ability to change with the balance patches to stay on top of exploits, and I'm seriously tired of them.
    arena25 wrote: »
    Where is the "I don't care" option.

    Bias, much?
    If you didn't care, you wouldn't post here. Simple as that.
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  • Nostramo
    Nostramo
    I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.
    akray21 wrote: »
    No. What is next, class changes?

    Again with the slippery slope argument, you people have to stop using that, it is not a valid argument... What is next? The end of the world? That is eventually where that argument leads... Race changes lead to the end of the world...

    If people are too lazy to create an alt because they are not happy with their race choice, what is stopping them from wanting a class change too?
  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.
    Mataata wrote: »
    I don't want people to be able to change their race. It'd only allow min/maxers even more ability to change with the balance patches to stay on top of exploits, and I'm seriously tired of them.

    By saying that you play a Nord at least. Not a Khajiit or Argonian.


  • akray21
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    I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.
    akray21 wrote: »
    No. What is next, class changes?

    Again with the slippery slope argument, you people have to stop using that, it is not a valid argument... What is next? The end of the world? That is eventually where that argument leads... Race changes lead to the end of the world...

    If people are too lazy to create an alt because they are not happy with their race choice, what is stopping them from wanting a class change too?

    Too lazy!? I am too lazy because I don't want to spend 14 days of actual time (probably more since all grid spots were nerfed to H***) to do all the quests that I have already done once, just to reach VR14, and THEN go into PvP to level my alliance skill line to get all the needed alliance war skills like vigor, magicka detonation, and all the needed passives. This makes me 'too lazy'!? I am sorry that I have a family, a job, a dog, own a home, and have other responsibilities. I am sorry, but I have played my current character for 9 months and I STILL don't have all the skills I need/want to be 100% effective in end game. I am not lazy, I am being realistic!

    Besides all that, some people like me don't even like to have alts, they enjoy playing with one character as it is a representation of them in game. People change, and so do their tastes/ styles... this is why all MMO's offer something like this in them. Let me enjoy the game the way I want, and I will let you enjoy it the way you want.
  • ThisOnePosts
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    I won't use, but don't care if they add race changes.
    Who cares? Why do YOU care what other people do? If they can hop up and down non-stop forever, what's game breaking about them changing their own characters? Whoever voted for the 1st option, must really be fun at parties. :grin:
  • Ajaxduo
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    I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.
    AngryNord wrote: »
    Ajaxduo wrote: »
    Make Tough, Conditioning and Gift of Magnus available to all races.

    No

    Yes.
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