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The Console Beta is a 54+GB download, apparently.
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I will get the final version on disc, so it will be much betterZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »It's 50GB for the final release or for the beta too?
I know they mentionned that the beta is the full game, but 50GB is a bit too much for me. It will take days to download that.
Yes, the full game will be approximately 50GB, plus an additional patch that is somewhere in the range of 15GB.
But how much is the beta size?0 -
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I will get the final version on disc, so it will be much betterZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »It's 50GB for the final release or for the beta too?
I know they mentionned that the beta is the full game, but 50GB is a bit too much for me. It will take days to download that.
Yes, the full game will be approximately 50GB, plus an additional patch that is somewhere in the range of 15GB.
But how much is the beta size?
As this entire topic quotes, the beta is the full game. The full game is 50 GB + 15 GB patch, which is 65 GB. As the beta is the full game, the beta is also 65 GB.
Edited by Zazaaji on April 22, 2015 5:05PMEnglish is not my first language, Finnish is.
Please don't heap on me for grammar problems.0 -
Nic727✭✭✭✭
I will get the final version on disc, so it will be much betterZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »It's 50GB for the final release or for the beta too?
I know they mentionned that the beta is the full game, but 50GB is a bit too much for me. It will take days to download that.
Yes, the full game will be approximately 50GB, plus an additional patch that is somewhere in the range of 15GB.
But how much is the beta size?
As this entire topic quotes, the beta is the full game. The full game is 50 GB + 15 GB patch, which is 65 GB. As the beta is the full game, the beta is also 65 GB.
OMG 0_0 How will I download that with my 100kb/s ?
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Zazaaji✭✭✭✭
I will get the final version on disc, so it will be much betterZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »It's 50GB for the final release or for the beta too?
I know they mentionned that the beta is the full game, but 50GB is a bit too much for me. It will take days to download that.
Yes, the full game will be approximately 50GB, plus an additional patch that is somewhere in the range of 15GB.
But how much is the beta size?
As this entire topic quotes, the beta is the full game. The full game is 50 GB + 15 GB patch, which is 65 GB. As the beta is the full game, the beta is also 65 GB.
OMG 0_0 How will I download that with my 100kb/s ?
Same boat as me. In my case, if I get invited, I will be downloading it at a public place with free and fast internet where it's safe to bring an Xbox One. Libraries, Colleges, etc.Edited by Zazaaji on April 22, 2015 5:10PMEnglish is not my first language, Finnish is.
Please don't heap on me for grammar problems.0 -
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I will get the final version on disc, so it will be much betterZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »It's 50GB for the final release or for the beta too?
I know they mentionned that the beta is the full game, but 50GB is a bit too much for me. It will take days to download that.
Yes, the full game will be approximately 50GB, plus an additional patch that is somewhere in the range of 15GB.
But how much is the beta size?
Do we have to install all 65 gb of we get the disk version?What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
Click HERE to discuss.
Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!0 -
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I will get the final version on disc, so it will be much betterZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »It's 50GB for the final release or for the beta too?
I know they mentionned that the beta is the full game, but 50GB is a bit too much for me. It will take days to download that.
Yes, the full game will be approximately 50GB, plus an additional patch that is somewhere in the range of 15GB.
But how much is the beta size?
As this entire topic quotes, the beta is the full game. The full game is 50 GB + 15 GB patch, which is 65 GB. As the beta is the full game, the beta is also 65 GB.
OMG 0_0 How will I download that with my 100kb/s ?
Same boat as me. In my case, if I get invited, I will be downloading it at a public place with free and fast internet where it's safe to bring an Xbox One. Libraries, Colleges, etc.
I once had my email/WOW account popped while using free internet at a local college campus. Lost major trust in those networks after that.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭They could have used that unused PC marketing budget and produced beta discs for console users with the core content. Then just patched the 15GB after the disc is validated with a four-day access code.
If you mail the disc back to Zenimax you receive a code to redeem a random pet currently in the Crown Store.
Seriously, if the game isn't far enough along on console to make physical copies for its testers, it's not ready. That was true for the entire duration of the PC beta and for a still-argued span of time afterward. Console is feeling more and more like Zenimax trying to force its customers to once again eat raw meat for the sake of a release date that really needs to be pushed back a few quarters.signing off0 -
Zazaaji✭✭✭✭
I will get the final version on disc, so it will be much betterZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »It's 50GB for the final release or for the beta too?
I know they mentionned that the beta is the full game, but 50GB is a bit too much for me. It will take days to download that.
Yes, the full game will be approximately 50GB, plus an additional patch that is somewhere in the range of 15GB.
But how much is the beta size?
Do we have to install all 65 gb of we get the disk version?
Yes. 50 of that will come from the disk installation though.English is not my first language, Finnish is.
Please don't heap on me for grammar problems.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »@Zazaaji your position seems to be all over the place:O.o many consoles cannot even Hold that amount of data reasonably, at least if the owner plans on playing and downloading other games
Xbox One comes with a 500Gb hard drive, but only 362 GB is usable. That still leaves right under 300 GB for other games, which is plenty in my opinion.
No clue on PS4 spacing, I don't own one.
But then you say:derpsticks wrote: »65gb is not much.
Can you name a larger game besides Star Citizen?
Can you name a larger game on consoles?
Don't get me wrong, I like large games. Saying 65GB is "not much" though is just incorrect though. That's a very large game by any system's (or even PC) standards.
I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. Can you clarify please?
I'm saying 65 GB isn't much compared to the 362 GB space available on an Xbox One, but 65 GB is indeed a lot of space just for one game to use.
1/6 of an entire memory space seems like quite a lot to me. If more games start getting bigger as well players are going to have very little capacity to hold memory for very many games.
Also the real problem in concern to the beta is the downloading time. 65 GB can take a long time for a lot of people, so those who are willing to try out the beta might be unable to or at least only do so for a very short time because of this giant download.
good point but keep in mind many of us have 40Mb/10Mb connections or better so it doesn't really take long at all.
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I will get the final version on disc, so it will be much betterZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »It's 50GB for the final release or for the beta too?
I know they mentionned that the beta is the full game, but 50GB is a bit too much for me. It will take days to download that.
Yes, the full game will be approximately 50GB, plus an additional patch that is somewhere in the range of 15GB.
But how much is the beta size?
Do we have to install all 65 gb of we get the disk version?
Yes. 50 of that will come from the disk installation though.
Eh bummer. If it somehow ran off the disk I might have considered getting the disk to Save the GBs.What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
Click HERE to discuss.
Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
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I will get the final version on disc, so it will be much betterZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »It's 50GB for the final release or for the beta too?
I know they mentionned that the beta is the full game, but 50GB is a bit too much for me. It will take days to download that.
Yes, the full game will be approximately 50GB, plus an additional patch that is somewhere in the range of 15GB.
But how much is the beta size?
Do we have to install all 65 gb of we get the disk version?
Yes. 50 of that will come from the disk installation though.
Eh bummer. If it somehow ran off the disk I might have considered getting the disk to Save the GBs.
no games run off discs for the next gen consoles tho-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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nastuug✭✭✭✭✭
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I will get the final version on disc, so it will be much betterZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »It's 50GB for the final release or for the beta too?
I know they mentionned that the beta is the full game, but 50GB is a bit too much for me. It will take days to download that.
Yes, the full game will be approximately 50GB, plus an additional patch that is somewhere in the range of 15GB.
But how much is the beta size?
Do we have to install all 65 gb of we get the disk version?
Yes. 50 of that will come from the disk installation though.
Eh bummer. If it somehow ran off the disk I might have considered getting the disk to Save the GBs.
I thought all games on XBONE and PS4 now have to be installed to play. Or was that just another urban console myth amongst my fellow Master PC Race members?0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They could have used that unused PC marketing budget and produced beta discs for console users with the core content. Then just patched the 15GB after the disc is validated with a four-day access code.
If you mail the disc back to Zenimax you receive a code to redeem a random pet currently in the Crown Store.
Seriously, if the game isn't far enough along on console to make physical copies for its testers, it's not ready. That was true for the entire duration of the PC beta and for a still-argued span of time afterward. Console is feeling more and more like Zenimax trying to force its customers to once again eat raw meat for the sake of a release date that really needs to be pushed back a few quarters.
honestly....the market needs to stop using disc drives and just sale games on mini USB sticks.
This way as the game prices vary, they can build in the size of games regardless of the medium to buy games on.
The disc era for consoles is pretty much irrelevant as you almost always have to update the games at some point.-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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nastuug✭✭✭✭✭
✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »They could have used that unused PC marketing budget and produced beta discs for console users with the core content. Then just patched the 15GB after the disc is validated with a four-day access code.
If you mail the disc back to Zenimax you receive a code to redeem a random pet currently in the Crown Store.
Seriously, if the game isn't far enough along on console to make physical copies for its testers, it's not ready. That was true for the entire duration of the PC beta and for a still-argued span of time afterward. Console is feeling more and more like Zenimax trying to force its customers to once again eat raw meat for the sake of a release date that really needs to be pushed back a few quarters.
honestly....the market needs to stop using disc drives and just sale games on mini USB sticks.
This way as the game prices vary, they can build in the size of games regardless of the medium to buy games on.
The disc era for consoles is pretty much irrelevant as you almost always have to update the games at some point.
Aye. Along with shipping the consoles with SSDs. The only reason would seem to be cost. Although once a console user experienced the amazing benefits of a SSD, I'm sure they would be willing to fork out an extra hundred or so.1 -
Nic727✭✭✭✭
I will get the final version on disc, so it will be much betterZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »It's 50GB for the final release or for the beta too?
I know they mentionned that the beta is the full game, but 50GB is a bit too much for me. It will take days to download that.
Yes, the full game will be approximately 50GB, plus an additional patch that is somewhere in the range of 15GB.
But how much is the beta size?
Do we have to install all 65 gb of we get the disk version?
Yes. 50 of that will come from the disk installation though.
Eh bummer. If it somehow ran off the disk I might have considered getting the disk to Save the GBs.
I thought all games on XBONE and PS4 now have to be installed to play. Or was that just another urban console myth amongst my fellow Master PC Race members?
No on Xbox One you have to install the game even if you have the disc. You need the disc to play, because it's a kind of "key" to activate the game. On Xbox 360 you was playing from the disc, so Skyrim was just 1-2Gb max (can be more, I don't remember).
The thing with disc is that you don't need to download everything and blow your internet connection.
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Sindala✭✭✭✭✭What makes y'all think there is only gonna be 1 patch of 15gb? Just wait till the bugs that don't get fixed in beta have to be patched. Anyone remember the size of patches we had to put up with at start of game? lol
Not to mention the fact that they have security patches to contend with on consoles which i'd love to know how they work around that.
Fun fun fun. Being First is not the prize, it just mean's everyone can stab you in the back.0 -
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yep....misread so I edited the commentWhat makes y'all think there is only gonna be 1 patch of 15gb? Just wait till the bugs that don't get fixed in beta have to be patched. Anyone remember the size of patches we had to put up with at start of game? lol
Not to mention the fact that they have security patches to contend with on consoles which i'd love to know how they work around that.
Fun fun fun.Edited by NewBlacksmurf on April 22, 2015 5:47PM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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I will get the final version on disc, so it will be much betterZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »It's 50GB for the final release or for the beta too?
I know they mentionned that the beta is the full game, but 50GB is a bit too much for me. It will take days to download that.
Yes, the full game will be approximately 50GB, plus an additional patch that is somewhere in the range of 15GB.
But how much is the beta size?
Do we have to install all 65 gb of we get the disk version?
Yes. 50 of that will come from the disk installation though.
Eh bummer. If it somehow ran off the disk I might have considered getting the disk to Save the GBs.
I thought all games on XBONE and PS4 now have to be installed to play. Or was that just another urban console myth amongst my fellow Master PC Race members?
No on Xbox One you have to install the game even if you have the disc. You need the disc to play, because it's a kind of "key" to activate the game. On Xbox 360 you was playing from the disc, so Skyrim was just 1-2Gb max (can be more, I don't remember).
The thing with disc is that you don't need to download everything and blow your internet connection.
I mean it would be completely understandable to force the user to install the game to the console HDD, similar to a PC. With a MMO like this, where a serial key would require account activation, what's the point of requiring a disc to play?0 -
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Actually cloud computing is the future. Physical drives will become less relevant as we migrate to that, though it will likely take consoles a while longer to follow suit.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »They could have used that unused PC marketing budget and produced beta discs for console users with the core content. Then just patched the 15GB after the disc is validated with a four-day access code.
If you mail the disc back to Zenimax you receive a code to redeem a random pet currently in the Crown Store.
Seriously, if the game isn't far enough along on console to make physical copies for its testers, it's not ready. That was true for the entire duration of the PC beta and for a still-argued span of time afterward. Console is feeling more and more like Zenimax trying to force its customers to once again eat raw meat for the sake of a release date that really needs to be pushed back a few quarters.
honestly....the market needs to stop using disc drives and just sale games on mini USB sticks.
This way as the game prices vary, they can build in the size of games regardless of the medium to buy games on.
The disc era for consoles is pretty much irrelevant as you almost always have to update the games at some point.
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Ruthven✭✭✭The PS4 has a 500Gb drive with just over 400Gb available. The great thing about the PS4 is that you can swap out the HDD for a bigger one without fudging the warranty. Hell, Sony even has a site showing you how to do it!
What I'm trying to get at here is I don't think the limitations of the console are the primary concern for most people but rather bandwidth they have access to (speed and amount allotted per month).0 -
nastuug✭✭✭✭✭
✭eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »
Actually cloud computing is the future. Physical drives will become less relevant as we migrate to that, though it will likely take consoles a while longer to follow suit.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »They could have used that unused PC marketing budget and produced beta discs for console users with the core content. Then just patched the 15GB after the disc is validated with a four-day access code.
If you mail the disc back to Zenimax you receive a code to redeem a random pet currently in the Crown Store.
Seriously, if the game isn't far enough along on console to make physical copies for its testers, it's not ready. That was true for the entire duration of the PC beta and for a still-argued span of time afterward. Console is feeling more and more like Zenimax trying to force its customers to once again eat raw meat for the sake of a release date that really needs to be pushed back a few quarters.
honestly....the market needs to stop using disc drives and just sale games on mini USB sticks.
This way as the game prices vary, they can build in the size of games regardless of the medium to buy games on.
The disc era for consoles is pretty much irrelevant as you almost always have to update the games at some point.
Cloud computing? Server-side, sure. But I think we're many decades away from full server-side content. The majority of internet users wouldn't have a strong enough network speed to command hundreds of gigs of back and forth data associated with this.
More than likely, you'll see everything move to SSD's with a progressive shift towards cloud-based data streaming.0 -
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wrlifeboil✭✭✭✭✭65 GB download? The FCC is looking more and more prescient in raising the definition of broadband Internet service in the U.S. to 25 Mbps even though nearly half of the country couldn't get that level of service even if people were willing to pay the $50-$100 monthly fee.
If you already have that many games on your XB1 already, delete games you don't play anymore or shift them to an external drive like this one (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V7RJCD6/) to make room for games you play more often.0 -
GamerzElite✭✭✭wrlifeboil wrote: »65 GB download? The FCC is looking more and more prescient in raising the definition of broadband Internet service in the U.S. to 25 Mbps even though nearly half of the country couldn't get that level of service even if people were willing to pay the $50-$100 monthly fee.
If you already have that many games on your XB1 already, delete games you don't play anymore or shift them to an external drive like this one (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V7RJCD6/) to make room for games you play more often.
True, but who will download a 65GB huge game just for try and limited to 4 days!0 -
Zazaaji✭✭✭✭GamerzElite wrote: »True, but who will download a 65GB huge game just for try and limited to 4 days!
Me and tons of others are willing to, if we get an invite.English is not my first language, Finnish is.
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Nic727✭✭✭✭My Internet speed is around 100 kb/s max. --> In Canada
When will we all get this : https://fiber.google.com/about/Edited by Nic727 on April 22, 2015 6:51PM0 -
wolfydog✭✭✭One and PS4 install all games now. I know with ps4 you can play after a short initial install the rest of the game will continue to install.
This is definatly the biggest console game ever. In my experiances my consoles going back to the xbox 360, ps3 and now ps4 always download slower then my PC does. Both have wired connections too. I definatly would not to be DLing 65GB. Sometimes on 360 downloading a 7 GB game was a big enough chore.
Anyways, I'll be playing ESO on PC still, will never play it on PS4.0
