Azura Star EP Night Cap -- Need another big DC team here.
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Jauriel✭✭✭✭LonePirate wrote: »Who? Ad?
naw, I watched it all from my perch on a rock. Ad pugs got farmed hard and just kept running out again and again from their keep. Over and over until they finally secured the scroll.
I know! And it was glorious. We could not believe how many AD kept emerging from Alessia which never had any enemy siege placed against it. I lost count of the number of times the scroll runner ran up to the front door to fight the AD on their home turf.
I sure hope those same AD players are on again tonight as my AP balance needs another boost.
''Twas funny. I even helped Blakestaton take two or three down who were trying to take him on.0 -
Jauriel✭✭✭✭LonePirate wrote: »LonePirate wrote: »I heard the EP who took the DC scroll from Drake and ran it to the front door of Alessia is a former DC player. I personally cannot confirm that, though. Before he made it to Alessia, he allegedly set up a double cross with DC as he ran it directly to the wrecked ship by Alessia bridge where several DC were waiting (and where DC later dropped a camp). Needless to say, DC got wiped as EP farmed the DC that showed up, not to mention the dozens of AD that poured out of nearby Alessia. He even ran up to the front door of Alessia several times before someone finally got him. The scroll soon after reset back to Drake because AD couldn't touch it and EP could not get close enough to it.
Let's not leave out the team orange business of yellow guarding the scroll and protecting it for EP so it would reset in an ep keep. Maybe one day Ep will win a campaign without help from AD.
The campaign is barely a week old and DC already trails EP by 13K points. We don't need AD's help in winning this campaign and one scroll is not going to make much of an immediate difference.
Really? Is that why you're all cramming yourselves in that campaign and poplocking it even when dc and ad have only one bar of pop? Let's be clear: that is the ONLY reason you guys are 13k points ahead. You're all in there round the clock. You call in your ad buddies when DC finally fills up and you all actually have a challenge.
Oh come on, there is no orange, green, or purple alliance.
Every faction is looking out for themselves, and sometimes AD's best interest aligns with DC, sometimes with EP, and sometimes **** all of ya'll.
I've worked with both factions when the situation called for it.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that when AD helped EP, it was because DC was dominating the map.
It's lonely at the top
Em, no. The limb would break from under your weight because I was referencing a specific incident last night on AS.0 -
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✭✭✭LonePirate wrote: »LonePirate wrote: »I heard the EP who took the DC scroll from Drake and ran it to the front door of Alessia is a former DC player. I personally cannot confirm that, though. Before he made it to Alessia, he allegedly set up a double cross with DC as he ran it directly to the wrecked ship by Alessia bridge where several DC were waiting (and where DC later dropped a camp). Needless to say, DC got wiped as EP farmed the DC that showed up, not to mention the dozens of AD that poured out of nearby Alessia. He even ran up to the front door of Alessia several times before someone finally got him. The scroll soon after reset back to Drake because AD couldn't touch it and EP could not get close enough to it.
Let's not leave out the team orange business of yellow guarding the scroll and protecting it for EP so it would reset in an ep keep. Maybe one day Ep will win a campaign without help from AD.
The campaign is barely a week old and DC already trails EP by 13K points. We don't need AD's help in winning this campaign and one scroll is not going to make much of an immediate difference.
Really? Is that why you're all cramming yourselves in that campaign and poplocking it even when dc and ad have only one bar of pop? Let's be clear: that is the ONLY reason you guys are 13k points ahead. You're all in there round the clock. You call in your ad buddies when DC finally fills up and you all actually have a challenge.
Oh come on, there is no orange, green, or purple alliance.
Every faction is looking out for themselves, and sometimes AD's best interest aligns with DC, sometimes with EP, and sometimes **** all of ya'll.
I've worked with both factions when the situation called for it.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that when AD helped EP, it was because DC was dominating the map.
It's lonely at the top
It's all your fault, isn't it, Winnie?
You need to just come clean an admit your complicity.
You caused it all.
The anger.
The heartbreak.
The lies.
The accusations.
YOU STOLE THE SWEETROLL!
And now every guard in Whiterun is after you.Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
Once a General, now a Citizen
Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
For Sweetrolls! FOR FIMIAN!2 -
Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭LonePirate wrote: »LonePirate wrote: »I heard the EP who took the DC scroll from Drake and ran it to the front door of Alessia is a former DC player. I personally cannot confirm that, though. Before he made it to Alessia, he allegedly set up a double cross with DC as he ran it directly to the wrecked ship by Alessia bridge where several DC were waiting (and where DC later dropped a camp). Needless to say, DC got wiped as EP farmed the DC that showed up, not to mention the dozens of AD that poured out of nearby Alessia. He even ran up to the front door of Alessia several times before someone finally got him. The scroll soon after reset back to Drake because AD couldn't touch it and EP could not get close enough to it.
Let's not leave out the team orange business of yellow guarding the scroll and protecting it for EP so it would reset in an ep keep. Maybe one day Ep will win a campaign without help from AD.
The campaign is barely a week old and DC already trails EP by 13K points. We don't need AD's help in winning this campaign and one scroll is not going to make much of an immediate difference.
Really? Is that why you're all cramming yourselves in that campaign and poplocking it even when dc and ad have only one bar of pop? Let's be clear: that is the ONLY reason you guys are 13k points ahead. You're all in there round the clock. You call in your ad buddies when DC finally fills up and you all actually have a challenge.
Oh come on, there is no orange, green, or purple alliance.
Every faction is looking out for themselves, and sometimes AD's best interest aligns with DC, sometimes with EP, and sometimes **** all of ya'll.
I've worked with both factions when the situation called for it.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that when AD helped EP, it was because DC was dominating the map.
It's lonely at the top
Em, no. The limb would break from under your weight because I was referencing a specific incident last night on AS.
So I gathered. However, I have seen a lot of cross faction scroll shenanigans, but I have never seen (aside from one player trolling, perhaps) a faction help another faction keep their scroll unless it was to screw over the dominant faction.
Now I understand that DC isn't winning the campaign, but I would be very surprised if any significant number of AD helped EP unless they considered DC the bigger threat at that moment.
Or I guess we could just go with your "AD just loves EP so much they're down to help them win the campaign" theory.Winni
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Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »LonePirate wrote: »LonePirate wrote: »I heard the EP who took the DC scroll from Drake and ran it to the front door of Alessia is a former DC player. I personally cannot confirm that, though. Before he made it to Alessia, he allegedly set up a double cross with DC as he ran it directly to the wrecked ship by Alessia bridge where several DC were waiting (and where DC later dropped a camp). Needless to say, DC got wiped as EP farmed the DC that showed up, not to mention the dozens of AD that poured out of nearby Alessia. He even ran up to the front door of Alessia several times before someone finally got him. The scroll soon after reset back to Drake because AD couldn't touch it and EP could not get close enough to it.
Let's not leave out the team orange business of yellow guarding the scroll and protecting it for EP so it would reset in an ep keep. Maybe one day Ep will win a campaign without help from AD.
The campaign is barely a week old and DC already trails EP by 13K points. We don't need AD's help in winning this campaign and one scroll is not going to make much of an immediate difference.
Really? Is that why you're all cramming yourselves in that campaign and poplocking it even when dc and ad have only one bar of pop? Let's be clear: that is the ONLY reason you guys are 13k points ahead. You're all in there round the clock. You call in your ad buddies when DC finally fills up and you all actually have a challenge.
Oh come on, there is no orange, green, or purple alliance.
Every faction is looking out for themselves, and sometimes AD's best interest aligns with DC, sometimes with EP, and sometimes **** all of ya'll.
I've worked with both factions when the situation called for it.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that when AD helped EP, it was because DC was dominating the map.
It's lonely at the top
It's all your fault, isn't it, Winnie?
You need to just come clean an admit your complicity.
You caused it all.
The anger.
The heartbreak.
The lies.
The accusations.
YOU STOLE THE SWEETROLL!
And now every guard in Whiterun is after you.
Yes
was me.
I'm bad and I feel bad.Winni
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Agrippa_Invisus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭LonePirate wrote: »LonePirate wrote: »I heard the EP who took the DC scroll from Drake and ran it to the front door of Alessia is a former DC player. I personally cannot confirm that, though. Before he made it to Alessia, he allegedly set up a double cross with DC as he ran it directly to the wrecked ship by Alessia bridge where several DC were waiting (and where DC later dropped a camp). Needless to say, DC got wiped as EP farmed the DC that showed up, not to mention the dozens of AD that poured out of nearby Alessia. He even ran up to the front door of Alessia several times before someone finally got him. The scroll soon after reset back to Drake because AD couldn't touch it and EP could not get close enough to it.
Let's not leave out the team orange business of yellow guarding the scroll and protecting it for EP so it would reset in an ep keep. Maybe one day Ep will win a campaign without help from AD.
The campaign is barely a week old and DC already trails EP by 13K points. We don't need AD's help in winning this campaign and one scroll is not going to make much of an immediate difference.
Really? Is that why you're all cramming yourselves in that campaign and poplocking it even when dc and ad have only one bar of pop? Let's be clear: that is the ONLY reason you guys are 13k points ahead. You're all in there round the clock. You call in your ad buddies when DC finally fills up and you all actually have a challenge.
Oh come on, there is no orange, green, or purple alliance.
Every faction is looking out for themselves, and sometimes AD's best interest aligns with DC, sometimes with EP, and sometimes **** all of ya'll.
I've worked with both factions when the situation called for it.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that when AD helped EP, it was because DC was dominating the map.
It's lonely at the top
Em, no. The limb would break from under your weight because I was referencing a specific incident last night on AS.
So I gathered. However, I have seen a lot of cross faction scroll shenanigans, but I have never seen (aside from one player trolling, perhaps) a faction help another faction keep their scroll unless it was to screw over the dominant faction.
Now I understand that DC isn't winning the campaign, but I would be very surprised if any significant number of AD helped EP unless they considered DC the bigger threat at that moment.
Or I guess we could just go with your "AD just loves EP so much they're down to help them win the campaign" theory.
My theory of why AD kept running out and attacking everyone:
AD #1: "Hey, there's a bunch of dudes on the Alessia doorstep. Let's go fite them nao!"
AD #2: "There's a scroll that we can't pick up, what do we do about that?"
AD #1: "That just means more dudes to fite for the apz!"
AD #2: "OK!"
Both: "POOOOOTAAAAAATOOOOOOOO!" *charge*
Without the guilds that usually appear on AS for AD being present, the AD population is dreadfully disorganized and disparate. I've seen them fail to take Alessia farm with 3 bars of population from either blue or red. So if they see dudes on their doorstep, they won't care one whit about what's going on and will charge out there.
I know quite well, especially in NA, if an ungrouped player logs on as an AD and there's nothing to do, they click the transit at the gate and then you click Alessia (or Sej if they have it). Sheer force of habit brings this on.Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
Once a General, now a Citizen
Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
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Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »LonePirate wrote: »LonePirate wrote: »I heard the EP who took the DC scroll from Drake and ran it to the front door of Alessia is a former DC player. I personally cannot confirm that, though. Before he made it to Alessia, he allegedly set up a double cross with DC as he ran it directly to the wrecked ship by Alessia bridge where several DC were waiting (and where DC later dropped a camp). Needless to say, DC got wiped as EP farmed the DC that showed up, not to mention the dozens of AD that poured out of nearby Alessia. He even ran up to the front door of Alessia several times before someone finally got him. The scroll soon after reset back to Drake because AD couldn't touch it and EP could not get close enough to it.
Let's not leave out the team orange business of yellow guarding the scroll and protecting it for EP so it would reset in an ep keep. Maybe one day Ep will win a campaign without help from AD.
The campaign is barely a week old and DC already trails EP by 13K points. We don't need AD's help in winning this campaign and one scroll is not going to make much of an immediate difference.
Really? Is that why you're all cramming yourselves in that campaign and poplocking it even when dc and ad have only one bar of pop? Let's be clear: that is the ONLY reason you guys are 13k points ahead. You're all in there round the clock. You call in your ad buddies when DC finally fills up and you all actually have a challenge.
Oh come on, there is no orange, green, or purple alliance.
Every faction is looking out for themselves, and sometimes AD's best interest aligns with DC, sometimes with EP, and sometimes **** all of ya'll.
I've worked with both factions when the situation called for it.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that when AD helped EP, it was because DC was dominating the map.
It's lonely at the top
Em, no. The limb would break from under your weight because I was referencing a specific incident last night on AS.
So I gathered. However, I have seen a lot of cross faction scroll shenanigans, but I have never seen (aside from one player trolling, perhaps) a faction help another faction keep their scroll unless it was to screw over the dominant faction.
Now I understand that DC isn't winning the campaign, but I would be very surprised if any significant number of AD helped EP unless they considered DC the bigger threat at that moment.
Or I guess we could just go with your "AD just loves EP so much they're down to help them win the campaign" theory.
My theory of why AD kept running out and attacking everyone:
AD #1: "Hey, there's a bunch of dudes on the Alessia doorstep. Let's go fite them nao!"
AD #2: "There's a scroll that we can't pick up, what do we do about that?"
AD #1: "That just means more dudes to fite for the apz!"
AD #2: "OK!"
Both: "POOOOOTAAAAAATOOOOOOOO!" *charge*
Without the guilds that usually appear on AS for AD being present, the AD population is dreadfully disorganized and disparate. I've seen them fail to take Alessia farm with 3 bars of population from either blue or red. So if they see dudes on their doorstep, they won't care one whit about what's going on and will charge out there.
I know quite well, especially in NA, if an ungrouped player logs on as an AD and there's nothing to do, they click the transit at the gate and then you click Alessia (or Sej if they have it). Sheer force of habit brings this on.
Yeahhhhhh anything near Alessia is getting attacked on principle and proximity.
OTOH it's a home keep... so what is she complaining about? Yes, anything that moves, or doesn't, whatever really, near Alessia gets attacked by hordes of pugs.
Has this actually spawned EP/AD conspiracy theories now?Winni
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✭I am honestly confused by the people who keep saying AD was helping us by guarding the scroll until it reset into our keep....Were the AD supposed to leave the scroll alone for DC to pick up? Because if that happened we'd be having this exact conversation but saying AD was working with DC rather than EP working with AD....Guild of Shadows ~Elite~Învictus ~Council~
EP | Vortexman | Dunmer DragonKnight | LvL 50 | Rank 50 | Former Emperor of Haderus & Chillrend |
EP | Phobos | Altmer Nightblade | LvL 50 | Rank 26 |
EP | Cheezus Sliced | Argonian Templar | LvL 50 | Rank 30 |
EP | Eterno Tempesta | Altmer Sorcerer | LvL 50 | Rank 33 |
DC | Vortexman | Dunmer DragonKnight | LvL 50 | Rank 12 |
DC | Divine Storm | Altmer Sorcerer | LvL 50 | Rank 04 |
EP | Pocket Vortex | Bosmer Templar | LvL 50 | Rank 24 |
EP | Vortexman | Redguard DragonKnight | LvL 50 | Rank 28 |
EP | Fungal Growth | Argonian Warden | LvL 50 | Rank 26 |
EP | Eternal Guardian | Bosmer Warden | LvL 50 | Rank 13 |
and a few other random toons
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Jauriel✭✭✭✭LonePirate wrote: »LonePirate wrote: »I heard the EP who took the DC scroll from Drake and ran it to the front door of Alessia is a former DC player. I personally cannot confirm that, though. Before he made it to Alessia, he allegedly set up a double cross with DC as he ran it directly to the wrecked ship by Alessia bridge where several DC were waiting (and where DC later dropped a camp). Needless to say, DC got wiped as EP farmed the DC that showed up, not to mention the dozens of AD that poured out of nearby Alessia. He even ran up to the front door of Alessia several times before someone finally got him. The scroll soon after reset back to Drake because AD couldn't touch it and EP could not get close enough to it.
Let's not leave out the team orange business of yellow guarding the scroll and protecting it for EP so it would reset in an ep keep. Maybe one day Ep will win a campaign without help from AD.
The campaign is barely a week old and DC already trails EP by 13K points. We don't need AD's help in winning this campaign and one scroll is not going to make much of an immediate difference.
Really? Is that why you're all cramming yourselves in that campaign and poplocking it even when dc and ad have only one bar of pop? Let's be clear: that is the ONLY reason you guys are 13k points ahead. You're all in there round the clock. You call in your ad buddies when DC finally fills up and you all actually have a challenge.
Oh come on, there is no orange, green, or purple alliance.
Every faction is looking out for themselves, and sometimes AD's best interest aligns with DC, sometimes with EP, and sometimes **** all of ya'll.
I've worked with both factions when the situation called for it.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that when AD helped EP, it was because DC was dominating the map.
It's lonely at the top
Em, no. The limb would break from under your weight because I was referencing a specific incident last night on AS.
So I gathered. However, I have seen a lot of cross faction scroll shenanigans, but I have never seen (aside from one player trolling, perhaps) a faction help another faction keep their scroll unless it was to screw over the dominant faction.
Now I understand that DC isn't winning the campaign, but I would be very surprised if any significant number of AD helped EP unless they considered DC the bigger threat at that moment.
Or I guess we could just go with your "AD just loves EP so much they're down to help them win the campaign" theory.
Except that's not *quite* what I said. I think it was along the lines of "abused wife with Stockholm syndrome"...0 -
Jauriel✭✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »LonePirate wrote: »LonePirate wrote: »I heard the EP who took the DC scroll from Drake and ran it to the front door of Alessia is a former DC player. I personally cannot confirm that, though. Before he made it to Alessia, he allegedly set up a double cross with DC as he ran it directly to the wrecked ship by Alessia bridge where several DC were waiting (and where DC later dropped a camp). Needless to say, DC got wiped as EP farmed the DC that showed up, not to mention the dozens of AD that poured out of nearby Alessia. He even ran up to the front door of Alessia several times before someone finally got him. The scroll soon after reset back to Drake because AD couldn't touch it and EP could not get close enough to it.
Let's not leave out the team orange business of yellow guarding the scroll and protecting it for EP so it would reset in an ep keep. Maybe one day Ep will win a campaign without help from AD.
The campaign is barely a week old and DC already trails EP by 13K points. We don't need AD's help in winning this campaign and one scroll is not going to make much of an immediate difference.
Really? Is that why you're all cramming yourselves in that campaign and poplocking it even when dc and ad have only one bar of pop? Let's be clear: that is the ONLY reason you guys are 13k points ahead. You're all in there round the clock. You call in your ad buddies when DC finally fills up and you all actually have a challenge.
Oh come on, there is no orange, green, or purple alliance.
Every faction is looking out for themselves, and sometimes AD's best interest aligns with DC, sometimes with EP, and sometimes **** all of ya'll.
I've worked with both factions when the situation called for it.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that when AD helped EP, it was because DC was dominating the map.
It's lonely at the top
Em, no. The limb would break from under your weight because I was referencing a specific incident last night on AS.
So I gathered. However, I have seen a lot of cross faction scroll shenanigans, but I have never seen (aside from one player trolling, perhaps) a faction help another faction keep their scroll unless it was to screw over the dominant faction.
Now I understand that DC isn't winning the campaign, but I would be very surprised if any significant number of AD helped EP unless they considered DC the bigger threat at that moment.
Or I guess we could just go with your "AD just loves EP so much they're down to help them win the campaign" theory.
My theory of why AD kept running out and attacking everyone:
AD #1: "Hey, there's a bunch of dudes on the Alessia doorstep. Let's go fite them nao!"
AD #2: "There's a scroll that we can't pick up, what do we do about that?"
AD #1: "That just means more dudes to fite for the apz!"
AD #2: "OK!"
Both: "POOOOOTAAAAAATOOOOOOOO!" *charge*
Without the guilds that usually appear on AS for AD being present, the AD population is dreadfully disorganized and disparate. I've seen them fail to take Alessia farm with 3 bars of population from either blue or red. So if they see dudes on their doorstep, they won't care one whit about what's going on and will charge out there.
I know quite well, especially in NA, if an ungrouped player logs on as an AD and there's nothing to do, they click the transit at the gate and then you click Alessia (or Sej if they have it). Sheer force of habit brings this on.
Ok this got me giggling very hard.I am honestly confused by the people who keep saying AD was helping us by guarding the scroll until it reset into our keep....Were the AD supposed to leave the scroll alone for DC to pick up? Because if that happened we'd be having this exact conversation but saying AD was working with DC rather than EP working with AD....
Siiiiiiiigh. Tex, you're lucky I like you. Go back and read where I said it is understandable for a losing faction to want to screw over a winning faction. What's not understandable is them NOT wanting to see the winning faction be robbed of some points.
Winnamine you can and should ask me directly what I am "complaining" about. I am able to answer, I assure you. Read paragraph above.Edited by Jauriel on April 20, 2015 8:33PM0 -
WarrioroftheWind_ESO✭✭✭✭vortexman11 wrote: »I am honestly confused by the people who keep saying AD was helping us by guarding the scroll until it reset into our keep....Were the AD supposed to leave the scroll alone for DC to pick up? Because if that happened we'd be having this exact conversation but saying AD was working with DC rather than EP working with AD....
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vortexman11✭✭✭✭✭
✭Siiiiiiiigh. Tex, you're lucky I like you. Go back and read where I said it is understandable for a losing faction to want to screw over a winning faction. What's not understandable is them NOT wanting to see the winning faction be robbed of some points.
Ohk, I understand your reasoning there, I've fealt the same way on multiple occasions when I used to on Haderus. Being on Haderus I've also realized that you're better off not trying to understand them...trust me...don't ever try to understand AD...Guild of Shadows ~Elite~Învictus ~Council~
EP | Vortexman | Dunmer DragonKnight | LvL 50 | Rank 50 | Former Emperor of Haderus & Chillrend |
EP | Phobos | Altmer Nightblade | LvL 50 | Rank 26 |
EP | Cheezus Sliced | Argonian Templar | LvL 50 | Rank 30 |
EP | Eterno Tempesta | Altmer Sorcerer | LvL 50 | Rank 33 |
DC | Vortexman | Dunmer DragonKnight | LvL 50 | Rank 12 |
DC | Divine Storm | Altmer Sorcerer | LvL 50 | Rank 04 |
EP | Pocket Vortex | Bosmer Templar | LvL 50 | Rank 24 |
EP | Vortexman | Redguard DragonKnight | LvL 50 | Rank 28 |
EP | Fungal Growth | Argonian Warden | LvL 50 | Rank 26 |
EP | Eternal Guardian | Bosmer Warden | LvL 50 | Rank 13 |
and a few other random toons
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Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭LonePirate wrote: »Caladriegan wrote: »Caladriegan wrote: »And I've personally seen a full AD raid AND a full DC raid ignoring each other in both Arrius and Chalman tonight. So quit with the crying Team Green.
I think the salient point is one would anticipate two losing and outnumbered factions to coordinate against the top cheese who has a 13k point lead. What one scratches their head at is the guy on the bottom a lot helping out that top cheese. To what ends? Why does the top cheese need the bottom guy to hold a scroll for them? This is all rhetorical, of course.
Oh I don't care that they are working together. I'm just tired of the accusation that EP hooks up with another faction on AS when it is obviously the other way around.
If AD and DC want to cut out half of their possible points that's fine with EP.
Such arrogance. Anyone who was there last night knows who clowned around with that scroll and knows who he was helping and why. My goodness you would have us all live in ep's world of denial?
This is a parody post, isn't it? That is the only rational explanation for such nonsense.
The EP with the scroll wiped the AD outside Alessia several times over, not to mention a few dozen camp dropping DC. There is no reason why DC couldn't have whipped the AD there and grabbed the scroll. My group withdrew several minutes before AD finally brought down the scroll runner so I am not sure exactly what happened when the scroll runner was slain. Given what happened later at Arrius and Chalman, it's no wonder AD didn't trust DC to walk up and grab the scroll without also sieging Alessia. You can't fault any faction for defending a home keep.
I feel like we aren't even on the same page half the time. I am sick and don't have it in me to fight you today. You're crazy if you think dc has the numbers to fight poplocked ep and 3 bars ad for our scroll, though. Ad had ONE reason to guard that scroll until it reset at the winning factions keep. To help the winning faction.
"Many of us have just attributed this to what has been admitted here on the forums: many ad rolled ep toons and therefore won't fight their buddies under any circumstance."
I mean, I think it's sort of obvious what you think...
And apparently, AD did this because we have so many friends on EP?
You're right, of course. The love affair between AD and EP is well documented...
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✭✭✭LonePirate wrote: »I heard the EP who took the DC scroll from Drake and ran it to the front door of Alessia is a former DC player. I personally cannot confirm that, though. Before he made it to Alessia, he allegedly set up a double cross with DC as he ran it directly to the wrecked ship by Alessia bridge where several DC were waiting (and where DC later dropped a camp). Needless to say, DC got wiped as EP farmed the DC that showed up, not to mention the dozens of AD that poured out of nearby Alessia. He even ran up to the front door of Alessia several times before someone finally got him. The scroll soon after reset back to Drake because AD couldn't touch it and EP could not get close enough to it.
Let's not leave out the team orange business of yellow guarding the scroll and protecting it for EP so it would reset in an ep keep. Maybe one day Ep will win a campaign without help from AD.
EP has done so
the campaign is called blackwater blade:/
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Jauriel✭✭✭✭LonePirate wrote: »Caladriegan wrote: »Caladriegan wrote: »And I've personally seen a full AD raid AND a full DC raid ignoring each other in both Arrius and Chalman tonight. So quit with the crying Team Green.
I think the salient point is one would anticipate two losing and outnumbered factions to coordinate against the top cheese who has a 13k point lead. What one scratches their head at is the guy on the bottom a lot helping out that top cheese. To what ends? Why does the top cheese need the bottom guy to hold a scroll for them? This is all rhetorical, of course.
Oh I don't care that they are working together. I'm just tired of the accusation that EP hooks up with another faction on AS when it is obviously the other way around.
If AD and DC want to cut out half of their possible points that's fine with EP.
Such arrogance. Anyone who was there last night knows who clowned around with that scroll and knows who he was helping and why. My goodness you would have us all live in ep's world of denial?
This is a parody post, isn't it? That is the only rational explanation for such nonsense.
The EP with the scroll wiped the AD outside Alessia several times over, not to mention a few dozen camp dropping DC. There is no reason why DC couldn't have whipped the AD there and grabbed the scroll. My group withdrew several minutes before AD finally brought down the scroll runner so I am not sure exactly what happened when the scroll runner was slain. Given what happened later at Arrius and Chalman, it's no wonder AD didn't trust DC to walk up and grab the scroll without also sieging Alessia. You can't fault any faction for defending a home keep.
I feel like we aren't even on the same page half the time. I am sick and don't have it in me to fight you today. You're crazy if you think dc has the numbers to fight poplocked ep and 3 bars ad for our scroll, though. Ad had ONE reason to guard that scroll until it reset at the winning factions keep. To help the winning faction.
"Many of us have just attributed this to what has been admitted here on the forums: many ad rolled ep toons and therefore won't fight their buddies under any circumstance."
I mean, I think it's sort of obvious what you think...
And apparently, AD did this because we have so many friends on EP?
You're right, of course. The love affair between AD and EP is well documented...
Has it not been admitted many ad rolled ep? You expect me to believe the ad who rolled ep didn't maintain connections and friendships? Dawwww, come on now.
If it was so obvious what I think then why ask what I was complaining about?0 -
Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭LonePirate wrote: »Caladriegan wrote: »Caladriegan wrote: »And I've personally seen a full AD raid AND a full DC raid ignoring each other in both Arrius and Chalman tonight. So quit with the crying Team Green.
I think the salient point is one would anticipate two losing and outnumbered factions to coordinate against the top cheese who has a 13k point lead. What one scratches their head at is the guy on the bottom a lot helping out that top cheese. To what ends? Why does the top cheese need the bottom guy to hold a scroll for them? This is all rhetorical, of course.
Oh I don't care that they are working together. I'm just tired of the accusation that EP hooks up with another faction on AS when it is obviously the other way around.
If AD and DC want to cut out half of their possible points that's fine with EP.
Such arrogance. Anyone who was there last night knows who clowned around with that scroll and knows who he was helping and why. My goodness you would have us all live in ep's world of denial?
This is a parody post, isn't it? That is the only rational explanation for such nonsense.
The EP with the scroll wiped the AD outside Alessia several times over, not to mention a few dozen camp dropping DC. There is no reason why DC couldn't have whipped the AD there and grabbed the scroll. My group withdrew several minutes before AD finally brought down the scroll runner so I am not sure exactly what happened when the scroll runner was slain. Given what happened later at Arrius and Chalman, it's no wonder AD didn't trust DC to walk up and grab the scroll without also sieging Alessia. You can't fault any faction for defending a home keep.
I feel like we aren't even on the same page half the time. I am sick and don't have it in me to fight you today. You're crazy if you think dc has the numbers to fight poplocked ep and 3 bars ad for our scroll, though. Ad had ONE reason to guard that scroll until it reset at the winning factions keep. To help the winning faction.
"Many of us have just attributed this to what has been admitted here on the forums: many ad rolled ep toons and therefore won't fight their buddies under any circumstance."
I mean, I think it's sort of obvious what you think...
And apparently, AD did this because we have so many friends on EP?
You're right, of course. The love affair between AD and EP is well documented...
Has it not been admitted many ad rolled ep? You expect me to believe the ad who rolled ep didn't maintain connections and friendships? Dawwww, come on now.
If it was so obvious what I think then why ask what I was complaining about?
Yes... an entire guild rolled EP.
But they did so partly because they were receiving so much hate on AD.
And in fact, that guild broke up, with half of them coming back to AD and half staying as a new guild on EP, and the one thing you did not want to do after that happened was stand between those 2 groups on any battlefield, anywhere. The love was real.
Now, I'm sure they still have a few friends on AD, but then we all have friends on other factions.
I'm even in a DC guild, and I'm pretty sure it makes me more of a target when we fight them.
Whatever you may believe, there is no **** DC alliance between EP and AD besties.Winni
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Jauriel✭✭✭✭Any they what? Deleted their ad toons? Never sign on them and clown around to help ep? Sorry, I am a skeptic by nature.
I will say I have always doubted that rerolling attributed to the bloat on ep side. I'm not buying that bill of goods, either.Edited by Jauriel on April 20, 2015 9:27PM0 -
Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭Any they what? Deleted their ad toons? Never sign on them and clown around to help ep? Sorry, I am a skeptic by nature.
I will say I have always doubted that rerolling attributed to the bloat on ep side. I'm not buying that bill of goods, either.
I don't think you understand.
This guild was very well known on AD, and widely disliked. Now they are very well known on EP, and widely hated.
We would all know if they were doing that.
It's not happening. It's just not.Winni
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✭✭✭LonePirate wrote: »Caladriegan wrote: »Caladriegan wrote: »And I've personally seen a full AD raid AND a full DC raid ignoring each other in both Arrius and Chalman tonight. So quit with the crying Team Green.
I think the salient point is one would anticipate two losing and outnumbered factions to coordinate against the top cheese who has a 13k point lead. What one scratches their head at is the guy on the bottom a lot helping out that top cheese. To what ends? Why does the top cheese need the bottom guy to hold a scroll for them? This is all rhetorical, of course.
Oh I don't care that they are working together. I'm just tired of the accusation that EP hooks up with another faction on AS when it is obviously the other way around.
If AD and DC want to cut out half of their possible points that's fine with EP.
Such arrogance. Anyone who was there last night knows who clowned around with that scroll and knows who he was helping and why. My goodness you would have us all live in ep's world of denial?
This is a parody post, isn't it? That is the only rational explanation for such nonsense.
The EP with the scroll wiped the AD outside Alessia several times over, not to mention a few dozen camp dropping DC. There is no reason why DC couldn't have whipped the AD there and grabbed the scroll. My group withdrew several minutes before AD finally brought down the scroll runner so I am not sure exactly what happened when the scroll runner was slain. Given what happened later at Arrius and Chalman, it's no wonder AD didn't trust DC to walk up and grab the scroll without also sieging Alessia. You can't fault any faction for defending a home keep.
I feel like we aren't even on the same page half the time. I am sick and don't have it in me to fight you today. You're crazy if you think dc has the numbers to fight poplocked ep and 3 bars ad for our scroll, though. Ad had ONE reason to guard that scroll until it reset at the winning factions keep. To help the winning faction.
"Many of us have just attributed this to what has been admitted here on the forums: many ad rolled ep toons and therefore won't fight their buddies under any circumstance."
I mean, I think it's sort of obvious what you think...
And apparently, AD did this because we have so many friends on EP?
You're right, of course. The love affair between AD and EP is well documented...
Has it not been admitted many ad rolled ep? You expect me to believe the ad who rolled ep didn't maintain connections and friendships? Dawwww, come on now.
If it was so obvious what I think then why ask what I was complaining about?
Yes... an entire guild rolled EP.
But they did so partly because they were receiving so much hate on AD.
And in fact, that guild broke up, with half of them coming back to AD and half staying as a new guild on EP, and the one thing you did not want to do after that happened was stand between those 2 groups on any battlefield, anywhere. The love was real.
Now, I'm sure they still have a few friends on AD, but then we all have friends on other factions.
I'm even in a DC guild, and I'm pretty sure it makes me more of a target when we fight them.
Whatever you may believe, there is no **** DC alliance between EP and AD besties.
I remember right after the split. I could go somewhere and say the name of the AD guild and where they were and not two seconds later in comes the red version and the two would beeline for each other to smash heads.
It happened way too consistently for there to be any form of coincidence. Both sides wanted to best each other. Badly.Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
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✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »LonePirate wrote: »Caladriegan wrote: »Caladriegan wrote: »And I've personally seen a full AD raid AND a full DC raid ignoring each other in both Arrius and Chalman tonight. So quit with the crying Team Green.
I think the salient point is one would anticipate two losing and outnumbered factions to coordinate against the top cheese who has a 13k point lead. What one scratches their head at is the guy on the bottom a lot helping out that top cheese. To what ends? Why does the top cheese need the bottom guy to hold a scroll for them? This is all rhetorical, of course.
Oh I don't care that they are working together. I'm just tired of the accusation that EP hooks up with another faction on AS when it is obviously the other way around.
If AD and DC want to cut out half of their possible points that's fine with EP.
Such arrogance. Anyone who was there last night knows who clowned around with that scroll and knows who he was helping and why. My goodness you would have us all live in ep's world of denial?
This is a parody post, isn't it? That is the only rational explanation for such nonsense.
The EP with the scroll wiped the AD outside Alessia several times over, not to mention a few dozen camp dropping DC. There is no reason why DC couldn't have whipped the AD there and grabbed the scroll. My group withdrew several minutes before AD finally brought down the scroll runner so I am not sure exactly what happened when the scroll runner was slain. Given what happened later at Arrius and Chalman, it's no wonder AD didn't trust DC to walk up and grab the scroll without also sieging Alessia. You can't fault any faction for defending a home keep.
I feel like we aren't even on the same page half the time. I am sick and don't have it in me to fight you today. You're crazy if you think dc has the numbers to fight poplocked ep and 3 bars ad for our scroll, though. Ad had ONE reason to guard that scroll until it reset at the winning factions keep. To help the winning faction.
"Many of us have just attributed this to what has been admitted here on the forums: many ad rolled ep toons and therefore won't fight their buddies under any circumstance."
I mean, I think it's sort of obvious what you think...
And apparently, AD did this because we have so many friends on EP?
You're right, of course. The love affair between AD and EP is well documented...
Has it not been admitted many ad rolled ep? You expect me to believe the ad who rolled ep didn't maintain connections and friendships? Dawwww, come on now.
If it was so obvious what I think then why ask what I was complaining about?
Yes... an entire guild rolled EP.
But they did so partly because they were receiving so much hate on AD.
And in fact, that guild broke up, with half of them coming back to AD and half staying as a new guild on EP, and the one thing you did not want to do after that happened was stand between those 2 groups on any battlefield, anywhere. The love was real.
Now, I'm sure they still have a few friends on AD, but then we all have friends on other factions.
I'm even in a DC guild, and I'm pretty sure it makes me more of a target when we fight them.
Whatever you may believe, there is no **** DC alliance between EP and AD besties.
I remember right after the split. I could go somewhere and say the name of the AD guild and where they were and not two seconds later in comes the red version and the two would beeline for each other to smash heads.
It happened way too consistently for there to be any form of coincidence. Both sides wanted to best each other. Badly.
That people think they still play their AD toons in any PvP capacity is hilarious. I've seen the screenshots of them logging over to try to buy Tripots and getting bombardedddd.
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Jauriel✭✭✭✭Any they what? Deleted their ad toons? Never sign on them and clown around to help ep? Sorry, I am a skeptic by nature.
I will say I have always doubted that rerolling attributed to the bloat on ep side. I'm not buying that bill of goods, either.
I don't think you understand.
This guild was very well known on AD, and widely disliked. Now they are very well known on EP, and widely hated.
We would all know if they were doing that.
It's not happening. It's just not.
I misunderstood nothing. I know who the guild is. I know the story. You're not giving me some prime scoop. I also know the reroll wasn't limited to one guild as you claim.0 -
WarrioroftheWind_ESO✭✭✭✭I remember said guild reroll....they thought they could easy peasy emp farm on Haderus back in the day. Oh boy did they misunderstand the power of angry buff bees....
I know I seen a huge amount of oldschool EP come back since 1.6 and TU. I'd like to hope more AD and DC oldschoolers return as well. RIP Brovaling. 1 -
Flawlless✭✭✭WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »I remember said guild reroll....they thought they could easy peasy emp farm on Haderus back in the day. Oh boy did they misunderstand the power of angry buff bees....
I know I seen a huge amount of oldschool EP come back since 1.6 and TU. I'd like to hope more AD and DC oldschoolers return as well. RIP Brovaling.
You obviously don't remember it as well as you think because they crowned every emp they meant to easily, sometimes multiple people in one day.
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Roselle✭✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »My theory of why AD kept running out and attacking everyone:
AD #1: "Hey, there's a bunch of dudes on the Alessia doorstep. Let's go fite them nao!"
AD #2: "There's a scroll that we can't pick up, what do we do about that?"
AD #1: "That just means more dudes to fite for the apz!"
AD #2: "OK!"
Both: "POOOOOTAAAAAATOOOOOOOO!" *charge*
Potato? Wtf.
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WarrioroftheWind_ESO✭✭✭✭WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »I remember said guild reroll....they thought they could easy peasy emp farm on Haderus back in the day. Oh boy did they misunderstand the power of angry buff bees....
I know I seen a huge amount of oldschool EP come back since 1.6 and TU. I'd like to hope more AD and DC oldschoolers return as well. RIP Brovaling.
You obviously don't remember it as well as you think because they crowned every emp they meant to easily, sometimes multiple people in one day.
Um....no that was a diff guild. Indominus Rectum or somesuch. The guild I remember was a 3 letter guild and were all skellies.
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Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭Any they what? Deleted their ad toons? Never sign on them and clown around to help ep? Sorry, I am a skeptic by nature.
I will say I have always doubted that rerolling attributed to the bloat on ep side. I'm not buying that bill of goods, either.
I don't think you understand.
This guild was very well known on AD, and widely disliked. Now they are very well known on EP, and widely hated.
We would all know if they were doing that.
It's not happening. It's just not.
I misunderstood nothing. I know who the guild is. I know the story. You're not giving me some prime scoop. I also know the reroll wasn't limited to one guild as you claim.
If another major AD guild went EP, it's news to me. Do tell.
Starting or spreading rumors like these is demeaning to you and insulting to both the other factions.
There is no conspiracy between EP and AD, EP guilds are not habitually playing their AD characters in an effort to help EP, and the tooth fairy isn't real.
Winni
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Ifthir_ESO✭✭✭✭✭WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »I remember said guild reroll....they thought they could easy peasy emp farm on Haderus back in the day. Oh boy did they misunderstand the power of angry buff bees....
I know I seen a huge amount of oldschool EP come back since 1.6 and TU. I'd like to hope more AD and DC oldschoolers return as well. RIP Brovaling.
You obviously don't remember it as well as you think because they crowned every emp they meant to easily, sometimes multiple people in one day.
Um....no that was a diff guild. Indominus Rectum or somesuch. The guild I remember was a 3 letter guild and were all skellies.
DiE had emperors if I recall. Maybe I am mis-remembering but I remember Moon or whatever was emp forever it seemed like.0 -
WarrioroftheWind_ESO✭✭✭✭Lots of potato salad tonight. EP got pushed back to the very tippy toes of their territory, almost losing Ghartok. Managed to barely keep AD and DC at bay, though I suppose the fact that they were tripping over each other to get through the gate helped. AD was less potatoey tonight though. I noticed one organized group I recognized from old Haderus. Nice to see yall. The point gulf is still pretty big. Keep working at it. Good fights at Arrius and BRK too.1
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Flawlless✭✭✭WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »I remember said guild reroll....they thought they could easy peasy emp farm on Haderus back in the day. Oh boy did they misunderstand the power of angry buff bees....
I know I seen a huge amount of oldschool EP come back since 1.6 and TU. I'd like to hope more AD and DC oldschoolers return as well. RIP Brovaling.
You obviously don't remember it as well as you think because they crowned every emp they meant to easily, sometimes multiple people in one day.
Um....no that was a diff guild. Indominus Rectum or somesuch. The guild I remember was a 3 letter guild and were all skellies.
After DiE became Havoc they crowned at least 10 emps on Haderus.
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