Jauriel wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

Caladriegan wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

Caladriegan wrote: »

And I've personally seen a full AD raid AND a full DC raid ignoring each other in both Arrius and Chalman tonight. So quit with the crying Team Green.

I think the salient point is one would anticipate two losing and outnumbered factions to coordinate against the top cheese who has a 13k point lead. What one scratches their head at is the guy on the bottom a lot helping out that top cheese. To what ends? Why does the top cheese need the bottom guy to hold a scroll for them? This is all rhetorical, of course.

Oh I don't care that they are working together. I'm just tired of the accusation that EP hooks up with another faction on AS when it is obviously the other way around.

If AD and DC want to cut out half of their possible points that's fine with EP.

Such arrogance. Anyone who was there last night knows who clowned around with that scroll and knows who he was helping and why. My goodness you would have us all live in ep's world of denial?

This is a parody post, isn't it? That is the only rational explanation for such nonsense.

The EP with the scroll wiped the AD outside Alessia several times over, not to mention a few dozen camp dropping DC. There is no reason why DC couldn't have whipped the AD there and grabbed the scroll. My group withdrew several minutes before AD finally brought down the scroll runner so I am not sure exactly what happened when the scroll runner was slain. Given what happened later at Arrius and Chalman, it's no wonder AD didn't trust DC to walk up and grab the scroll without also sieging Alessia. You can't fault any faction for defending a home keep.

I feel like we aren't even on the same page half the time. I am sick and don't have it in me to fight you today. You're crazy if you think dc has the numbers to fight poplocked ep and 3 bars ad for our scroll, though. Ad had ONE reason to guard that scroll until it reset at the winning factions keep. To help the winning faction.

I'm sure the AD siege on Drake (where the scroll would and did reset) played a role in AD's unwillingness to give it back to DC. Unfortunately for AD, EP successfully defended Drake and the scroll returned there before the walls were fully repaired.

Look on the bright side, though. After several hours of trying, you finally dethroned the EP sorc emp who had taken the night off. Now there's a super tough EP DK ready to assume the throne. Good luck to AD and DC if he is crowned.

LonePirate wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

Caladriegan wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

Caladriegan wrote: »

And I've personally seen a full AD raid AND a full DC raid ignoring each other in both Arrius and Chalman tonight. So quit with the crying Team Green.

I think the salient point is one would anticipate two losing and outnumbered factions to coordinate against the top cheese who has a 13k point lead. What one scratches their head at is the guy on the bottom a lot helping out that top cheese. To what ends? Why does the top cheese need the bottom guy to hold a scroll for them? This is all rhetorical, of course.

Oh I don't care that they are working together. I'm just tired of the accusation that EP hooks up with another faction on AS when it is obviously the other way around.

If AD and DC want to cut out half of their possible points that's fine with EP.

Such arrogance. Anyone who was there last night knows who clowned around with that scroll and knows who he was helping and why. My goodness you would have us all live in ep's world of denial?

This is a parody post, isn't it? That is the only rational explanation for such nonsense.

The EP with the scroll wiped the AD outside Alessia several times over, not to mention a few dozen camp dropping DC. There is no reason why DC couldn't have whipped the AD there and grabbed the scroll. My group withdrew several minutes before AD finally brought down the scroll runner so I am not sure exactly what happened when the scroll runner was slain. Given what happened later at Arrius and Chalman, it's no wonder AD didn't trust DC to walk up and grab the scroll without also sieging Alessia. You can't fault any faction for defending a home keep.

I feel like we aren't even on the same page half the time. I am sick and don't have it in me to fight you today. You're crazy if you think dc has the numbers to fight poplocked ep and 3 bars ad for our scroll, though. Ad had ONE reason to guard that scroll until it reset at the winning factions keep. To help the winning faction.

I'm sure the AD siege on Drake (where the scroll would and did reset) played a role in AD's unwillingness to give it back to DC. Unfortunately for AD, EP successfully defended Drake and the scroll returned there before the walls were fully repaired.

Look on the bright side, though. After several hours of trying, you finally dethroned the EP sorc emp who had taken the night off. Now there's a super tough EP DK ready to assume the throne. Good luck to AD and DC if he is crowned.

lol.

Jauriel wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

I heard the EP who took the DC scroll from Drake and ran it to the front door of Alessia is a former DC player. I personally cannot confirm that, though. Before he made it to Alessia, he allegedly set up a double cross with DC as he ran it directly to the wrecked ship by Alessia bridge where several DC were waiting (and where DC later dropped a camp). Needless to say, DC got wiped as EP farmed the DC that showed up, not to mention the dozens of AD that poured out of nearby Alessia. He even ran up to the front door of Alessia several times before someone finally got him. The scroll soon after reset back to Drake because AD couldn't touch it and EP could not get close enough to it.

Let's not leave out the team orange business of yellow guarding the scroll and protecting it for EP so it would reset in an ep keep. Maybe one day Ep will win a campaign without help from AD.

Or maybe they were farming AP?

LonePirate wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

Caladriegan wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

Caladriegan wrote: »

And I've personally seen a full AD raid AND a full DC raid ignoring each other in both Arrius and Chalman tonight. So quit with the crying Team Green.

I think the salient point is one would anticipate two losing and outnumbered factions to coordinate against the top cheese who has a 13k point lead. What one scratches their head at is the guy on the bottom a lot helping out that top cheese. To what ends? Why does the top cheese need the bottom guy to hold a scroll for them? This is all rhetorical, of course.

Oh I don't care that they are working together. I'm just tired of the accusation that EP hooks up with another faction on AS when it is obviously the other way around.

If AD and DC want to cut out half of their possible points that's fine with EP.

Such arrogance. Anyone who was there last night knows who clowned around with that scroll and knows who he was helping and why. My goodness you would have us all live in ep's world of denial?

This is a parody post, isn't it? That is the only rational explanation for such nonsense.

The EP with the scroll wiped the AD outside Alessia several times over, not to mention a few dozen camp dropping DC. There is no reason why DC couldn't have whipped the AD there and grabbed the scroll. My group withdrew several minutes before AD finally brought down the scroll runner so I am not sure exactly what happened when the scroll runner was slain. Given what happened later at Arrius and Chalman, it's no wonder AD didn't trust DC to walk up and grab the scroll without also sieging Alessia. You can't fault any faction for defending a home keep.

I feel like we aren't even on the same page half the time. I am sick and don't have it in me to fight you today. You're crazy if you think dc has the numbers to fight poplocked ep and 3 bars ad for our scroll, though. Ad had ONE reason to guard that scroll until it reset at the winning factions keep. To help the winning faction.

I'm sure the AD siege on Drake (where the scroll would and did reset) played a role in AD's unwillingness to give it back to DC. Unfortunately for AD, EP successfully defended Drake and the scroll returned there before the walls were fully repaired.

Look on the bright side, though. After several hours of trying, you finally dethroned the EP sorc emp who had taken the night off. Now there's a super tough EP DK ready to assume the throne. Good luck to AD and DC if he is crowned.

Oh man is it Blake's turn? I have to hop on for that!

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

Caladriegan wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

Caladriegan wrote: »

And I've personally seen a full AD raid AND a full DC raid ignoring each other in both Arrius and Chalman tonight. So quit with the crying Team Green.

I think the salient point is one would anticipate two losing and outnumbered factions to coordinate against the top cheese who has a 13k point lead. What one scratches their head at is the guy on the bottom a lot helping out that top cheese. To what ends? Why does the top cheese need the bottom guy to hold a scroll for them? This is all rhetorical, of course.

Oh I don't care that they are working together. I'm just tired of the accusation that EP hooks up with another faction on AS when it is obviously the other way around.

If AD and DC want to cut out half of their possible points that's fine with EP.

Such arrogance. Anyone who was there last night knows who clowned around with that scroll and knows who he was helping and why. My goodness you would have us all live in ep's world of denial?

This is a parody post, isn't it? That is the only rational explanation for such nonsense.

The EP with the scroll wiped the AD outside Alessia several times over, not to mention a few dozen camp dropping DC. There is no reason why DC couldn't have whipped the AD there and grabbed the scroll. My group withdrew several minutes before AD finally brought down the scroll runner so I am not sure exactly what happened when the scroll runner was slain. Given what happened later at Arrius and Chalman, it's no wonder AD didn't trust DC to walk up and grab the scroll without also sieging Alessia. You can't fault any faction for defending a home keep.

I feel like we aren't even on the same page half the time. I am sick and don't have it in me to fight you today. You're crazy if you think dc has the numbers to fight poplocked ep and 3 bars ad for our scroll, though. Ad had ONE reason to guard that scroll until it reset at the winning factions keep. To help the winning faction.

I'm sure the AD siege on Drake (where the scroll would and did reset) played a role in AD's unwillingness to give it back to DC. Unfortunately for AD, EP successfully defended Drake and the scroll returned there before the walls were fully repaired.

Look on the bright side, though. After several hours of trying, you finally dethroned the EP sorc emp who had taken the night off. Now there's a super tough EP DK ready to assume the throne. Good luck to AD and DC if he is crowned.

Oh man is it Blake's turn? I have to hop on for that!

yay good job taking emp when no one was on this morning. Hurry up and get on so you don't miss out on some serious 10v1. Man you guys are good!

Jauriel wrote: »

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

If the tables were turned I know my guys would be bored.

the tables were turned and you guys made it an all blue map buff server

stop being a hypocrite already

I was NOT there for that. I did not in any way shape or form make AS a buff server. My guild homed there two days after TB ended and a week before AS ended. I wish I knew who painted As blue last cycle because they're gone now! When we arrived in AS there was a handful of DC in zone. And once we arrived so did many ep guilds-it was competitive every day. Still is-except now it's totally overrun with ep now. Stop with the bitter and hostile accusations before you get the facts!

I think as is the case here in AS is that you have some large groups within a faction that don't like actual pvp when it's 'forced' upon them. I'd seen this in old Volendrung as well as Haderus. Where you had a faction that had held the map both because of overwhelming numbers and lack of opposition, then all of a sudden opposition turns up, and large groups in the previously dominating faction don't want to pvp anymore becuse they feel it's 'being forced upon them'. Hence they withdraw and look for a server where things are more convenient and easy for them. I like the decisive battle, but some people just like farming points from noobs. That's what happened with Alma Ruma. It wasn't a case of AD 'helping' EP maintain the lead. It was a case of AD going full on potato and having the mentality of "OMG THE SCROLL"S RIGHT THERE WE GOTTA GET IT OMG!"

AD is horribly misorganized this cycle. I don't see very many of the 'major' guilds participating except for maybe one or two. The few prominent guilds I did see in last cycle were mostly concerned about staging tower farms for points. I've even seen it said by some of their members themselves that they don't care about rallying their faction or helping them win. They just care about points because for them that's what really matters, and it's a shame because these are very skilled and veteran players, and the pvp system rewards this.

Alot of these 'pve babies' that only pvp to have the map to themselves are fairly mindless when it comes to defending their personal playground, but push comes to shove, they crumble pretty easily under a organized force, and instead of trying to learn and improve, they either go somewhere else or stop trying, or if they're incredibly dumb, throw themselves into the meatgrinder.

frozywozy wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

To be frank, the TFL team absconding to Chillrend did DC no favors. I've seen them formed up and running mid days before and that'd help against the EP crew that operates that time of day.

Not sure why they left, but hey, I guess Chillrend needed more DC during off hours. Or something.

They're not entirely to fault, though. There's a lot of EP on Azura's (and Thornblade for that matter) that need to go play on Chillrend and help EP pull themselves out of third there instead of taking the easy win.

Maybe that's just the overarching theme here.

This is likely my last cycle on Azura's until it straightens itself out.

This^

I'm so tired of large group of players merging to another campaign and enjoying an easy win with much much larger numbers without looking elsewhere where their faction needs them the most.

Shameful.

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, there is a faction in every campaign who seem to enjoy an easy win by dominating the map entirely lately. It's the new trend or something.

How about you bring your guild where your faction needs you the most next cycle ? Do us all a favor. And when you do, please don't bring your best buddy guild with you. One guild at a time, please.

I don't know how that is going to work, dude. I'm staying homed on Thorn for the gold bags that I have already paid for; and I just go to whatever server has some action and no queue for entertainment. But when I get to whatever server I am guesting, its just for some PVP, not map politics.

We (EP) compete against our own faction as much as we compete against other factions. It's the way the game was built; to have internal and external competition, and you can't promote faction pride cross server when there is no incentive to buy into that granfalloon. I play with a guild of people I like and that's where I get my sense of camaraderie.

Finally, I don't think most of the EP on TB or AZ are interested in PVP, like HAD AD, there are mostly PVE players doing achievements that have no interest in PVP or controlling the map. When TB starts to flip the competitive PVPers show up to hold it down, but I don't see how anyone could call that shameful, the game is about dominating other players and factions and testing your strength against them. I think it is more shameful to imagine some ecology as the cause of your loss or failure rather than accepting your own choices and abilities for whatever outcomes you sow.

Good luck with CR; EP has a long history before becoming bloated in the last months of cinching wins as an underdog, always time to reclaim that.

I have no idea what you just said and I don't care at all about pvers who play in Cyrodiil. All I care for is challenge, competition and fair fights and the way to make it happen is by having guild use their common sense and pick a campaign where their faction need them the most.

End of story.

Is there another language you'd like me to run it though google translator for you? Guilds just go to other servers for fun, not for the map.

If you get your "fun" by dominating an entire map for a full campaign cycle, by killing more npcs than you actually kill players, by gate farming anyone who try to jump out of their spawn, and by bragging in the end that your victory was well earned and that it was all for the best of all, I don't know from which planet you come from.

In my world, we fight and we work hard to earn something. First, we learn faster and get better at the game when there is real competition on the other side, and second, It is alot more satisfying in the end if we win, you should try sometimes.

Stop acting like a spoiled brat who think you deserve everything without lifting a finger.

I didn't say any of that. I love to pvp and that's why I go to other campaigns to do it when TB is dead, including Chillrend. All I ever see you do is cry about having too many players on a server or too few players on a server, and in my mind that is the definition of spoiled brat, a person who never plays the hand their dealt and cries about things they have no control over.

I don't know what world you are in where you fight and work hard to earn something; this is a video game, get real dude. You are tying to make something noble out of an infomercial with a video-game background.

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

To be frank, the TFL team absconding to Chillrend did DC no favors. I've seen them formed up and running mid days before and that'd help against the EP crew that operates that time of day.

Not sure why they left, but hey, I guess Chillrend needed more DC during off hours. Or something.

They're not entirely to fault, though. There's a lot of EP on Azura's (and Thornblade for that matter) that need to go play on Chillrend and help EP pull themselves out of third there instead of taking the easy win.

Maybe that's just the overarching theme here.

This is likely my last cycle on Azura's until it straightens itself out.

This^

I'm so tired of large group of players merging to another campaign and enjoying an easy win with much much larger numbers without looking elsewhere where their faction needs them the most.

Shameful.

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, there is a faction in every campaign who seem to enjoy an easy win by dominating the map entirely lately. It's the new trend or something.

How about you bring your guild where your faction needs you the most next cycle ? Do us all a favor. And when you do, please don't bring your best buddy guild with you. One guild at a time, please.

I don't know how that is going to work, dude. I'm staying homed on Thorn for the gold bags that I have already paid for; and I just go to whatever server has some action and no queue for entertainment. But when I get to whatever server I am guesting, its just for some PVP, not map politics.

We (EP) compete against our own faction as much as we compete against other factions. It's the way the game was built; to have internal and external competition, and you can't promote faction pride cross server when there is no incentive to buy into that granfalloon. I play with a guild of people I like and that's where I get my sense of camaraderie.

Finally, I don't think most of the EP on TB or AZ are interested in PVP, like HAD AD, there are mostly PVE players doing achievements that have no interest in PVP or controlling the map. When TB starts to flip the competitive PVPers show up to hold it down, but I don't see how anyone could call that shameful, the game is about dominating other players and factions and testing your strength against them. I think it is more shameful to imagine some ecology as the cause of your loss or failure rather than accepting your own choices and abilities for whatever outcomes you sow.

Good luck with CR; EP has a long history before becoming bloated in the last months of cinching wins as an underdog, always time to reclaim that.

I have no idea what you just said and I don't care at all about pvers who play in Cyrodiil. All I care for is challenge, competition and fair fights and the way to make it happen is by having guild use their common sense and pick a campaign where their faction need them the most.

End of story.

Is there another language you'd like me to run it though google translator for you? Guilds just go to other servers for fun, not for the map.

If you get your "fun" by dominating an entire map for a full campaign cycle, by killing more npcs than you actually kill players, by gate farming anyone who try to jump out of their spawn, and by bragging in the end that your victory was well earned and that it was all for the best of all, I don't know from which planet you come from.

In my world, we fight and we work hard to earn something. First, we learn faster and get better at the game when there is real competition on the other side, and second, It is alot more satisfying in the end if we win, you should try sometimes.

Stop acting like a spoiled brat who think you deserve everything without lifting a finger.

I didn't say any of that. I love to pvp and that's why I go to other campaigns to do it when TB is dead, including Chillrend. All I ever see you do is cry about having too many players on a server or too few players on a server, and in my mind that is the definition of spoiled brat, a person who never plays the hand their dealt and cries about things they have no control over.

I don't know what world you are in where you fight and work hard to earn something; this is a video game, get real dude. You are tying to make something noble out of an infomercial with a video-game background.

If you were not aware, there have been at least 15 threads over the past months discussing population balances problems. This is not something I'm making myself. And I'm not crying about it, I'm trying to help the game gets better competition, that's all. If you don't like competition, well so be it. Most people like it as it's been proven in all those threads as I said.

Domander wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

To be frank, the TFL team absconding to Chillrend did DC no favors. I've seen them formed up and running mid days before and that'd help against the EP crew that operates that time of day.

Not sure why they left, but hey, I guess Chillrend needed more DC during off hours. Or something.

They're not entirely to fault, though. There's a lot of EP on Azura's (and Thornblade for that matter) that need to go play on Chillrend and help EP pull themselves out of third there instead of taking the easy win.

Maybe that's just the overarching theme here.

This is likely my last cycle on Azura's until it straightens itself out.

This^

I'm so tired of large group of players merging to another campaign and enjoying an easy win with much much larger numbers without looking elsewhere where their faction needs them the most.

Shameful.

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, there is a faction in every campaign who seem to enjoy an easy win by dominating the map entirely lately. It's the new trend or something.

How about you bring your guild where your faction needs you the most next cycle ? Do us all a favor. And when you do, please don't bring your best buddy guild with you. One guild at a time, please.

The server was ALL yellow and zerged down any time the ring keeps were touched...then it was ALL blue and zerged down any time the inner ring keeps were touched. Now it's competetive, and it's "an easy win with much much larger numbers"

LOL

such a joke some of you are making

I have never pointed fingers to anyone. You are assuming it.

frozywozy wrote: »

I have never pointed fingers to anyone. You are assuming it.

True, and my apologies. I was just going by who was winning this round.

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

To be frank, the TFL team absconding to Chillrend did DC no favors. I've seen them formed up and running mid days before and that'd help against the EP crew that operates that time of day.

Not sure why they left, but hey, I guess Chillrend needed more DC during off hours. Or something.

They're not entirely to fault, though. There's a lot of EP on Azura's (and Thornblade for that matter) that need to go play on Chillrend and help EP pull themselves out of third there instead of taking the easy win.

Maybe that's just the overarching theme here.

This is likely my last cycle on Azura's until it straightens itself out.

This^

I'm so tired of large group of players merging to another campaign and enjoying an easy win with much much larger numbers without looking elsewhere where their faction needs them the most.

Shameful.

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, there is a faction in every campaign who seem to enjoy an easy win by dominating the map entirely lately. It's the new trend or something.

How about you bring your guild where your faction needs you the most next cycle ? Do us all a favor. And when you do, please don't bring your best buddy guild with you. One guild at a time, please.

I don't know how that is going to work, dude. I'm staying homed on Thorn for the gold bags that I have already paid for; and I just go to whatever server has some action and no queue for entertainment. But when I get to whatever server I am guesting, its just for some PVP, not map politics.

We (EP) compete against our own faction as much as we compete against other factions. It's the way the game was built; to have internal and external competition, and you can't promote faction pride cross server when there is no incentive to buy into that granfalloon. I play with a guild of people I like and that's where I get my sense of camaraderie.

Finally, I don't think most of the EP on TB or AZ are interested in PVP, like HAD AD, there are mostly PVE players doing achievements that have no interest in PVP or controlling the map. When TB starts to flip the competitive PVPers show up to hold it down, but I don't see how anyone could call that shameful, the game is about dominating other players and factions and testing your strength against them. I think it is more shameful to imagine some ecology as the cause of your loss or failure rather than accepting your own choices and abilities for whatever outcomes you sow.

Good luck with CR; EP has a long history before becoming bloated in the last months of cinching wins as an underdog, always time to reclaim that.

I have no idea what you just said and I don't care at all about pvers who play in Cyrodiil. All I care for is challenge, competition and fair fights and the way to make it happen is by having guild use their common sense and pick a campaign where their faction need them the most.

End of story.

Is there another language you'd like me to run it though google translator for you? Guilds just go to other servers for fun, not for the map.

If you get your "fun" by dominating an entire map for a full campaign cycle, by killing more npcs than you actually kill players, by gate farming anyone who try to jump out of their spawn, and by bragging in the end that your victory was well earned and that it was all for the best of all, I don't know from which planet you come from.

In my world, we fight and we work hard to earn something. First, we learn faster and get better at the game when there is real competition on the other side, and second, It is alot more satisfying in the end if we win, you should try sometimes.

Stop acting like a spoiled brat who think you deserve everything without lifting a finger.

I didn't say any of that. I love to pvp and that's why I go to other campaigns to do it when TB is dead, including Chillrend. All I ever see you do is cry about having too many players on a server or too few players on a server, and in my mind that is the definition of spoiled brat, a person who never plays the hand their dealt and cries about things they have no control over.

I don't know what world you are in where you fight and work hard to earn something; this is a video game, get real dude. You are tying to make something noble out of an infomercial with a video-game background.

If you were not aware, there have been at least 15 threads over the past months discussing population balances problems. This is not something I'm making myself. And I'm not crying about it, I'm trying to help the game gets better competition, that's all. If you don't like competition, well so be it. Most people like it as it's been proven in all those threads as I said.

Domander wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

To be frank, the TFL team absconding to Chillrend did DC no favors. I've seen them formed up and running mid days before and that'd help against the EP crew that operates that time of day.

Not sure why they left, but hey, I guess Chillrend needed more DC during off hours. Or something.

They're not entirely to fault, though. There's a lot of EP on Azura's (and Thornblade for that matter) that need to go play on Chillrend and help EP pull themselves out of third there instead of taking the easy win.

Maybe that's just the overarching theme here.

This is likely my last cycle on Azura's until it straightens itself out.

This^

I'm so tired of large group of players merging to another campaign and enjoying an easy win with much much larger numbers without looking elsewhere where their faction needs them the most.

Shameful.

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, there is a faction in every campaign who seem to enjoy an easy win by dominating the map entirely lately. It's the new trend or something.

How about you bring your guild where your faction needs you the most next cycle ? Do us all a favor. And when you do, please don't bring your best buddy guild with you. One guild at a time, please.

The server was ALL yellow and zerged down any time the ring keeps were touched...then it was ALL blue and zerged down any time the inner ring keeps were touched. Now it's competetive, and it's "an easy win with much much larger numbers"

LOL

such a joke some of you are making

I have never pointed fingers to anyone. You are assuming it.

LOL so you accuse me of not liking competition when I have said exactly the opposite in every post regarding this discussion, and then you accuse someone else of making assumptions about your arguments in the same post; this is rich. I don't think one can have a discussion with someone who's points are so disingenuous.

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

To be frank, the TFL team absconding to Chillrend did DC no favors. I've seen them formed up and running mid days before and that'd help against the EP crew that operates that time of day.

Not sure why they left, but hey, I guess Chillrend needed more DC during off hours. Or something.

They're not entirely to fault, though. There's a lot of EP on Azura's (and Thornblade for that matter) that need to go play on Chillrend and help EP pull themselves out of third there instead of taking the easy win.

Maybe that's just the overarching theme here.

This is likely my last cycle on Azura's until it straightens itself out.

This^

I'm so tired of large group of players merging to another campaign and enjoying an easy win with much much larger numbers without looking elsewhere where their faction needs them the most.

Shameful.

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, there is a faction in every campaign who seem to enjoy an easy win by dominating the map entirely lately. It's the new trend or something.

How about you bring your guild where your faction needs you the most next cycle ? Do us all a favor. And when you do, please don't bring your best buddy guild with you. One guild at a time, please.

I don't know how that is going to work, dude. I'm staying homed on Thorn for the gold bags that I have already paid for; and I just go to whatever server has some action and no queue for entertainment. But when I get to whatever server I am guesting, its just for some PVP, not map politics.

We (EP) compete against our own faction as much as we compete against other factions. It's the way the game was built; to have internal and external competition, and you can't promote faction pride cross server when there is no incentive to buy into that granfalloon. I play with a guild of people I like and that's where I get my sense of camaraderie.

Finally, I don't think most of the EP on TB or AZ are interested in PVP, like HAD AD, there are mostly PVE players doing achievements that have no interest in PVP or controlling the map. When TB starts to flip the competitive PVPers show up to hold it down, but I don't see how anyone could call that shameful, the game is about dominating other players and factions and testing your strength against them. I think it is more shameful to imagine some ecology as the cause of your loss or failure rather than accepting your own choices and abilities for whatever outcomes you sow.

Good luck with CR; EP has a long history before becoming bloated in the last months of cinching wins as an underdog, always time to reclaim that.

All the sentences I put in bold characters prove that you don't accord any intentions to competition whatsoever. All you care for is getting your "gold bags", "having fun with your guild and get your sense of camaraderie" and complete your achievements.

Also, you clearly assumed what most people think a video game is all about "dominating other players" when in reality, what people really want is not pure domination but a well earned victory.

I'm wrong ? Show me where you demonstrate in your posts that you enjoy true competition and challenge, because from my perspective, it's the other way around.

You only show that you want your things done, rewards given and fun with your guildies no matter how your opponents feel about it and how out numbered they can be.

Good day

frozywozy wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

To be frank, the TFL team absconding to Chillrend did DC no favors. I've seen them formed up and running mid days before and that'd help against the EP crew that operates that time of day.

Not sure why they left, but hey, I guess Chillrend needed more DC during off hours. Or something.

They're not entirely to fault, though. There's a lot of EP on Azura's (and Thornblade for that matter) that need to go play on Chillrend and help EP pull themselves out of third there instead of taking the easy win.

Maybe that's just the overarching theme here.

This is likely my last cycle on Azura's until it straightens itself out.

This^

I'm so tired of large group of players merging to another campaign and enjoying an easy win with much much larger numbers without looking elsewhere where their faction needs them the most.

Shameful.

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, there is a faction in every campaign who seem to enjoy an easy win by dominating the map entirely lately. It's the new trend or something.

How about you bring your guild where your faction needs you the most next cycle ? Do us all a favor. And when you do, please don't bring your best buddy guild with you. One guild at a time, please.

I don't know how that is going to work, dude. I'm staying homed on Thorn for the gold bags that I have already paid for; and I just go to whatever server has some action and no queue for entertainment. But when I get to whatever server I am guesting, its just for some PVP, not map politics.

We (EP) compete against our own faction as much as we compete against other factions. It's the way the game was built; to have internal and external competition, and you can't promote faction pride cross server when there is no incentive to buy into that granfalloon. I play with a guild of people I like and that's where I get my sense of camaraderie.

Finally, I don't think most of the EP on TB or AZ are interested in PVP, like HAD AD, there are mostly PVE players doing achievements that have no interest in PVP or controlling the map. When TB starts to flip the competitive PVPers show up to hold it down, but I don't see how anyone could call that shameful, the game is about dominating other players and factions and testing your strength against them. I think it is more shameful to imagine some ecology as the cause of your loss or failure rather than accepting your own choices and abilities for whatever outcomes you sow.

Good luck with CR; EP has a long history before becoming bloated in the last months of cinching wins as an underdog, always time to reclaim that.

I have no idea what you just said and I don't care at all about pvers who play in Cyrodiil. All I care for is challenge, competition and fair fights and the way to make it happen is by having guild use their common sense and pick a campaign where their faction need them the most.

End of story.

Is there another language you'd like me to run it though google translator for you? Guilds just go to other servers for fun, not for the map.

If you get your "fun" by dominating an entire map for a full campaign cycle, by killing more npcs than you actually kill players, by gate farming anyone who try to jump out of their spawn, and by bragging in the end that your victory was well earned and that it was all for the best of all, I don't know from which planet you come from.

In my world, we fight and we work hard to earn something. First, we learn faster and get better at the game when there is real competition on the other side, and second, It is alot more satisfying in the end if we win, you should try sometimes.

Stop acting like a spoiled brat who think you deserve everything without lifting a finger.

I didn't say any of that. I love to pvp and that's why I go to other campaigns to do it when TB is dead, including Chillrend. All I ever see you do is cry about having too many players on a server or too few players on a server, and in my mind that is the definition of spoiled brat, a person who never plays the hand their dealt and cries about things they have no control over.

I don't know what world you are in where you fight and work hard to earn something; this is a video game, get real dude. You are tying to make something noble out of an infomercial with a video-game background.

If you were not aware, there have been at least 15 threads over the past months discussing population balances problems. This is not something I'm making myself. And I'm not crying about it, I'm trying to help the game gets better competition, that's all. If you don't like competition, well so be it. Most people like it as it's been proven in all those threads as I said.

Domander wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

To be frank, the TFL team absconding to Chillrend did DC no favors. I've seen them formed up and running mid days before and that'd help against the EP crew that operates that time of day.

Not sure why they left, but hey, I guess Chillrend needed more DC during off hours. Or something.

They're not entirely to fault, though. There's a lot of EP on Azura's (and Thornblade for that matter) that need to go play on Chillrend and help EP pull themselves out of third there instead of taking the easy win.

Maybe that's just the overarching theme here.

This is likely my last cycle on Azura's until it straightens itself out.

This^

I'm so tired of large group of players merging to another campaign and enjoying an easy win with much much larger numbers without looking elsewhere where their faction needs them the most.

Shameful.

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, there is a faction in every campaign who seem to enjoy an easy win by dominating the map entirely lately. It's the new trend or something.

How about you bring your guild where your faction needs you the most next cycle ? Do us all a favor. And when you do, please don't bring your best buddy guild with you. One guild at a time, please.

The server was ALL yellow and zerged down any time the ring keeps were touched...then it was ALL blue and zerged down any time the inner ring keeps were touched. Now it's competetive, and it's "an easy win with much much larger numbers"

LOL

such a joke some of you are making

I have never pointed fingers to anyone. You are assuming it.

LOL so you accuse me of not liking competition when I have said exactly the opposite in every post regarding this discussion, and then you accuse someone else of making assumptions about your arguments in the same post; this is rich. I don't think one can have a discussion with someone who's points are so disingenuous.

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

To be frank, the TFL team absconding to Chillrend did DC no favors. I've seen them formed up and running mid days before and that'd help against the EP crew that operates that time of day.

Not sure why they left, but hey, I guess Chillrend needed more DC during off hours. Or something.

They're not entirely to fault, though. There's a lot of EP on Azura's (and Thornblade for that matter) that need to go play on Chillrend and help EP pull themselves out of third there instead of taking the easy win.

Maybe that's just the overarching theme here.

This is likely my last cycle on Azura's until it straightens itself out.

This^

I'm so tired of large group of players merging to another campaign and enjoying an easy win with much much larger numbers without looking elsewhere where their faction needs them the most.

Shameful.

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, there is a faction in every campaign who seem to enjoy an easy win by dominating the map entirely lately. It's the new trend or something.

How about you bring your guild where your faction needs you the most next cycle ? Do us all a favor. And when you do, please don't bring your best buddy guild with you. One guild at a time, please.

I don't know how that is going to work, dude. I'm staying homed on Thorn for the gold bags that I have already paid for; and I just go to whatever server has some action and no queue for entertainment. But when I get to whatever server I am guesting, its just for some PVP, not map politics.

We (EP) compete against our own faction as much as we compete against other factions. It's the way the game was built; to have internal and external competition, and you can't promote faction pride cross server when there is no incentive to buy into that granfalloon. I play with a guild of people I like and that's where I get my sense of camaraderie.

Finally, I don't think most of the EP on TB or AZ are interested in PVP, like HAD AD, there are mostly PVE players doing achievements that have no interest in PVP or controlling the map. When TB starts to flip the competitive PVPers show up to hold it down, but I don't see how anyone could call that shameful, the game is about dominating other players and factions and testing your strength against them. I think it is more shameful to imagine some ecology as the cause of your loss or failure rather than accepting your own choices and abilities for whatever outcomes you sow.

Good luck with CR; EP has a long history before becoming bloated in the last months of cinching wins as an underdog, always time to reclaim that.

All the sentences I put in bold characters prove that you don't accord any intentions to competition whatsoever. All you care for is getting your "gold bags", "having fun with your guild and get your sense of camaraderie" and complete your achievements.

Also, you clearly assumed what most people think a video game is all about "dominating other players" when in reality, what people really want is not pure domination but a well earned victory.

I'm wrong ? Show me where you demonstrate in your posts that you enjoy true competition and challenge, because from my perspective, it's the other way around.

You only show that you want your things done, rewards given and fun with your guildies no matter how your opponents feel about it and how out numbered they can be.

Good day

Everything you highlighted was the about competing with other players, except gold bags. Groups fighting groups is what competition is, not the color of a keep or the number of bars on a server, it's the fun of 2 groups engaging each other and sometimes 3 groups. PVP is not taking keeps or scoreboards, it is players fighting players. I can't even fathom how one could think competition existed without a group of friends to share tactics and organization with. And yes the path to competition is though dominating and losing to other groups, testing your skills against other players is the definition of competition in this game.

So go on, get back to trying to heard just enough players to pull off a win to whatever server you want to call home so you can GG at the end and feel like you've experienced "competition", because clearly our definitions are not identical.