Audigy wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Those of us who have payed for this game all along I feel have reason to be cranky when we're now told, "Hey guys we're using your money to fund our console release which is getting pretty much ALL of our attention so there's going to pretty much be NOTHING of note new for you until well AFTER that." Because I think we all know ZOS is going to want to take a break and give the console crowd time to play through all the existing content before bothering to release all the zones and content they've been teasing us with for months. It also appears that they are SO focused on this that they can't even be bothered to do the development work necessary to put the NEW cosmetic items we desperately desire in the crown shop so instead we're treated to retreads of existing NPC wear for the most part and a few reskins. Yeah, not feeling so appreciated.

I honestly wonder if the console release will get many new players. Those that were into ESO, most likely have the PC version and might now just move over. For them nothing will change I think, they either have content or they don't, depending on where they are on PC

Would you say that there are people waiting for a whole year who now buy ESO because its on consoles?

As far I can tell, ZOS can not rest after June, they must deliver the first big DLC until Autumn or players stop their subs.

it will. console will get about 1-2 million new players at minimum.take 1.5 mil players x 60 bucks for game = 90mil.
add to that dlc that will surely come out this year ,i presume a month or two after consoles release to increase the bang , if u sell for 10 dollars, that's 15 mil,and i didnt even added the pc users that will surely buy it.in all,appr 120 mil a year is very nice ..
every one here knows the game is a winner and console comes out in 09/15 ,which is the slowest time of year in gaming market,so no competitors at all..., the game is addictive, and once dlc comes out this year,we'll all get our dose.

Lauradana wrote: »

Nope not at all and I wonder how long it takes for them to give me the next warning and deleting my vote in this disscussion.

they have been rather diligent lately in deleting threads or comments that disagree with how they are running the game, or threads that point out their mistakes, probably goes back to stock market or something, they think if they delete the dissenters, their bosses or stocks wont be affected, luckily they do not control the entire internet, and many other sites are free to post their dissenting opinions about the games progress

bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »

Lauradana wrote: »

Nope not at all and I wonder how long it takes for them to give me the next warning and deleting my vote in this disscussion.

they have been rather diligent lately in deleting threads or comments that disagree with how they are running the game, or threads that point out their mistakes, probably goes back to stock market or something, they think if they delete the dissenters, their bosses or stocks wont be affected, luckily they do not control the entire internet, and many other sites are free to post their dissenting opinions about the games progress

I'm one of the more outspoken posters when it comes to disagreeing w/ ZOS' ethics and treatment of their players.

They often edit my posts to remove inflammatory statements against other players (or quotes that were moderated, etc), but they still manage to leave a lot of the sentiment even if it is negative toward the company.

I think it has to do more w/ tone and how confrontational you are toward other posters rather than the content itself, even if it's negative toward ZOS.

Replied to similar threads to this, but in short.

No I do not, lag free gaming should be available to all, as that was what was promised...still waiting.

And a priority queue system for Plus members, similar to the way better Premium system on Battlefield 3/4, where you spend a one time purchase and have access to all upcoming DLC/loads of special drops and a priority system.

Ok different genre, but the essence remains the same, Plus is almost worthless, a few crowns, and a couple of bonuses, deeply underwhelming.

Delete my comment Mods if you want, as they say...truth hurts, and more and more people are wakening up.

The_Death_Princess wrote: »

lol I hit the wrong button. Roll my vote into the other no.

Hehe, still a nay though:D

A valued subscriber would at least by now have a mail system, a little compass map onscreen, a public auction house rather than the stupid guild ones which don't give you much choice at all. AT THE LEAST!!!!!

No. I am a player who has 3 main activities in this game: Crafting, RP and Guild/Solo PvE (probably in that order).

ZOS's actions over the last year have not made me feel that my role with regards to any of those play styles is valued. As a PC subscriber the sense of value is even lower.

I'm not a current subscriber, and that's mostly because there hadn't been much content released in the past months. I'm hoping this is just an unplanned lull between content, and not a sign of how things will be. Once something major gets released, I might become a subscriber for it.

It's getting old. It's all really getting old. I try to just keep playing and being ok with the brokenness and lack of response, but it is just getting old. Some members of the staff are great at responding to you and others just ignore your messages. I don't know why I haven't unsubscribed yet.

I dont think it would be so bad if it wasn't for the endless vr grind... id feel more respected as a player if the vr grind was made easier, the CP grind harder. Right now, it feels the other way around.

HeWhoCaresNot wrote: »

I dont think it would be so bad if it wasn't for the endless vr grind... id feel more respected as a player if the vr grind was made easier, the CP grind harder. Right now, it feels the other way around.

Lol this this is the first post I have ever seen you actually say something other than your funny `I don`t care` statement hehe.

ThePonzzz wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

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Emphasis on "might", although I have my doubts..

The devs most likely care. I'd doubt they don't. I'd say upper management cares too. But realize this is a business. There are targets and goals they have to hit. You can try to figure out the revenue, but you don't know the cost of operations. This has got to be an expensive game to produce. Any time new content comes out, it's not just code. It's voice actors, it's artwork, it's lore, it's creating a patch, it's quality control, it's training employees and educating with content... It's a lot of stuff.

The gaming industry is always put in a tough position because of how players view the "cash grab." But make no mistake, this is all a cash grab. Microtransactions are here to stay in the online environment for games. The easier it is to buy in, the better it works. Moving to the ESO Plus and Crown Store really just makes everything smoother.

I voted and said my thoughts about the value of an ESO Plus subscription. I sympathize with the position the PR people here on the forums. I know how rough it can be. It's sad, because I bet many of them know that new content needs to be pushed out, but priority is the consoles and moving away from the 6 to 8 week updates, and there doesn't appear to be a separate division handling that (which is a little boggling considering how successful things have been).

Aye I hear you, and agree with you on most points, but I have to say, and not meaning this in a evil way or anything.

I would rather they fixed the infrastructure of the game before adding new content or w/e, bug fixes/balancing, and more importantly the lag monster which really annoys me, super rig, super net, yet get hit by lag every so often.

And concerning consoles, a part of me is dying to see the backlash when the console peeps see the state of the game, if they just do a straight port, if you consider the diabolical nature of some games when ported from console to PC, they will not tolerate it, and rightly so.

I do love the game and it has so many nice touches, graphics, music, Justice system and other factors, all IMO.

But end of the day, we are all customers, and have all paid a lot of money for the game and subbing, till the B2P model came into play, and we all need to have a stable game, that is our right as customers.

Game stability is absolutely essential, if the higher ups don`t understand that, then well, words fail me....

And I have already said my piece on the ESO Plus shenanigans on other threads, and I am quite sorry, it is absolutely underwhelming compared to other genres, that being the Premium package on Battlefield 3/4, where there is a shock horror......priority queue system, which IMO should have been in ESO Plus from the get go.

I find it absolutely ludicrous that ESO Plus is so underwhelming on so many levels, that when my current subscription ends, that will be it till major improvements that were promised are implemented.

Zenimax has to make money, I have no problem with that, but being a almost continuous supporter since beta, first and foremost I expect a stable gaming enviroment before they bolt on anything else, its like a foundations of a house not done right, you can add on what you want to it, it will cause problems.
So they will scurry about and fix the problems without sorting the underlying issues.

To me the priority is not consoles, but the game itself, and it will work out and benefit everyone in the long run.

And if they cannot do it, well then, shrugs, I do play other games from other genres.

New TES game is coming, and there is GTA5 atm:}, and ESO will be a bittersweet memory.

But until that bitter day comes, I will continue to play the game, although not exclusively and wish so much that Zeni will get a grip and turn the game into what was promised all along.

Again all this is my opinion and I am entitled to it, agree or disagree:}

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I feel valued as a subscriber because I know first hand the difficulty and hard work that goes in to creating usable software, only to constantly listen to a user base that wants it to do more. It's human nature, and I understand that: once we have something, we want more, we want better, we want prettier we want, we want, we want.

What we have here is a game that, for very little money provides us with many, many hours of entertainment.

Can it be better? Sure. Is it perfect? No. Nothing ever is. The point of continuing to support the game monetarily through a monthly contribution, i.e. "ESO Plus", for me, is that I am supporting the continuation of my pass-time. I enjoy spending my time playing the game. I know ZOS is probably walking a financial tightrope to keep it going. It has to be profitable, or else it will cease to be. I personally will do what I can, within reason, to help keep the balance sheets in the black.

What I get out of continuing to subscribe to "ESO Plus" is the knowledge that I am doing my part to keep the whole thing going, and not fade away. The costs of keeping this thing running, and developing new content are beyond the comprehension of most of us. Programmers and game designers are not paid like fast food workers. They are paid well, for good reason, and it takes a LOT of them, as well as system engineers and maintenance personnel to keep this whole thing going for our entertainment. I know this, that's why I'm happy to continue my membership. I get satisfaction out of knowing that I am doing my part to keep the world of ESO from becoming a piece of history.

pugyourself wrote: »

jkemmery wrote: »

I feel valued as a subscriber because I know first hand the difficulty and hard work that goes in to creating usable software, only to constantly listen to a user base that wants it to do more. It's human nature, and I understand that: once we have something, we want more, we want better, we want prettier we want, we want, we want.

What we have here is a game that, for very little money provides us with many, many hours of entertainment.

Can it be better? Sure. Is it perfect? No. Nothing ever is. The point of continuing to support the game monetarily through a monthly contribution, i.e. "ESO Plus", for me, is that I am supporting the continuation of my pass-time. I enjoy spending my time playing the game. I know ZOS is probably walking a financial tightrope to keep it going. It has to be profitable, or else it will cease to be. I personally will do what I can, within reason, to help keep the balance sheets in the black.

What I get out of continuing to subscribe to "ESO Plus" is the knowledge that I am doing my part to keep the whole thing going, and not fade away. The costs of keeping this thing running, and developing new content are beyond the comprehension of most of us. Programmers and game designers are not paid like fast food workers. They are paid well, for good reason, and it takes a LOT of them, as well as system engineers and maintenance personnel to keep this whole thing going for our entertainment. I know this, that's why I'm happy to continue my membership. I get satisfaction out of knowing that I am doing my part to keep the world of ESO from becoming a piece of history.

You make good points. I'm wondering...how do you feel about not being able to opt out of cross-screen spam as a subscriber? Do you feel that you should have the option to opt out (even if you might decide not to)?

I would prefer not to have huge yellow letters flash in the screen while I'm trying to kill a difficult boss, yes, I felt that was tactless. I don't mind ads in the chat box, or the loading screen. But blasting it in my face is a bit much. And I stated that in that thread on here. I only saw the ads for the leopard twice this weekend though, so, it was on the whole minimal, yet still annoying when it came. The fact that is did lets me know that ESO is walking that financial thightrope.

really depends on how often and how much DLC will cost.. subbing is kinda of a shity deal, basically for the next 5-6 months till we see new content