Can we be Factionless?

Gidorick · April 2015

So, on this site: http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/esotu

We have this:
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It says: "(Imperials) can be found in the ranks of every alliance or opposed to all three, bringing their considerable skills to bear wherever they choose to fight."

Can I choose to be an Imperial and NOT be in an alliance?

TD5160_ESO · April 2015

Sadly no... but this should be a thing.

Heromofo · April 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

So, on this site: http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/esotu

We have this:

It says: "(Imperials) can be found in the ranks of every alliance or opposed to all three, bringing their considerable skills to bear wherever they choose to fight."

Can I choose to be an Imperial and NOT be in an alliance?

Lol cmon man you know the answer this is not single player.

You should ask
Will we ever get to choose to be faction less?

My answer is no
1. One way to much work as it would require massive changes to eso

Gidorick · April 2015

It's kind of weird for them to advertise the Imperials as a separate faction then, wouldn't you say?

Zarbryn · April 2015

Everquest had that though, which was well done. You could betray your faction and join another one. I believe you became factionless for a while.

Heromofo · April 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

It's kind of weird for them to advertise the Imperials as a separate faction then, wouldn't you say?

It is personally can't wait for elder scrolls six.

TD5160_ESO · April 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

It's kind of weird for them to advertise the Imperials as a separate faction then, wouldn't you say?

A lot of things ZOS does is weird

Honestly though, this may be a feature in the works for when console launches or shortly after. A lot of resources have gone to the console launch, so who knows what they are adding...

TD5160_ESO · April 2015

Heromofo wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

It's kind of weird for them to advertise the Imperials as a separate faction then, wouldn't you say?

It is personally can't wait for elder scrolls six.

No ***, right? lol

arena25 · April 2015

No, but I wish I could be factionless...

newtinmpls · April 2015

I really don't take the factions seriously.

I mean. ... after Cold Harbor that just seems petty

SHADOW2KK · April 2015

newtinmpls wrote: »

I really don't take the factions seriously.

I mean. ... after Cold Harbor that just seems petty

Same here tbh, the quest system is so mundane its horrendous, at least in the TES games, IMO they were good, and I actually cared, in ESO quests, sorry, I really could not care less who lives or dies.

And I do not take the factions seriously either, I love pitting my skills against friends in all alliances in PvP.

It is a game after all.

Roll on Elder Scrolls 6.

bloodenragedb14_ESO · April 2015

if only, id love to be able to be neutral, maybe even get a pvp flag that removes me from the battles. id pay oodles of cash just to get my 'neutrality' papers ingame

NewBlacksmurf · April 2015

Considering you have to play each faction to complete silver n golds quests you're kinda factio less after 50 but for sure at VR6

MrGhosty · April 2015

I don't so much care about being factionless, but I would pay crowns for a quest that would allow me to change the current faction of my characters and player guild affiliation. My characters were created over a fair span of time and as that time has gone on I am less impressed with my earlier faction choices.

Just to be clear I don't want this to be something that can happen every other day or anything like that, once every six months seems a fair cool down time. I just don't want some of my characters to be in a specific faction anymore and I'm not willing to dump the hours and millions of gold I've pumped into them and just start over.

Danikat · April 2015

I would really like it if this was an option.

Considering the early quests are all about allying yourself with your chosen alliance, you don't get access to Cyrodiil until level 10, and there are already factionless NPCs, particularly in the guilds, I actually think a factionless option could fit in to the storyline fairly well.

The way I imagine it working is instead of getting access to Cyrodiil automatically at level 10 you're given a choice: become a soldier for your alliance and get access to Cyrodiil or you refuse and can't fight in Cyrodiil on that character but can travel through the other alliances lands at any level (since you're not their enemy now).

The problem would be balancing for some people losing access to the PvE content in Cyrodiil. Unless they somehow retained that and just keep you out of the PvP part.

TD5160_ESO · April 2015

Honestly, I think faction should be determined by guild (for example, fighters guild, vs thieves guild, vs mages guild) rather than this stupid alliance stuff. Even then, it should not be active hostility as much as general competition. I hate that they wen with the alliance system to pander to the other mmo crowds.

TheShadowScout · April 2015

Well, the game as it is doesn't really have any room for fractionless characters, with how the story goes through their fraction into coldharbour and only then through the others in that thing cadwells sends you on (which I still treat as an excursion into a "what if" dream for my characters, ignoring the question where those items drops come from if its a dream...

)

However... once you finish cadwells, things might be possible to get an option to change at some day. I know I really would enjoy havinan "fraction loyalty called in question" questline that allows characters to either prove their localty to their fraction, or "defect" to a different one. And if that ever happened, they could even add the option to defect to a "neutral" faction as "different one" - though seeing how that would be a lot of work, I wouldn't count on it... they'd have to take a lot of things into account, not in the least what regions you gain access too (each map but cyrodil exists in three versions after all, for the three fractions - do you gain access to DC glenumbra at levels up to 16 or so, EP glenumbra at V1, or AD glenumbra at V6...?)

Of course, I would also like it if they changed the way maps were done, and have one "veteran" version of each map added for people post cadwells, at an map level of, say, V12, where people can do daily quests in their homelands, and invade other fractions "veteran zones" as intruders, with PvP possibilities (though at an severe disadvantage for the "intruders" with all NPCs hostile to them, including the town guards killing them on sight, no vendors speaking with them, etc. - but with new "infiltration/sabotage" daily quests they could choose to do...).
If they eveer made something like that... then fractionless characters that are neutral but attackable to all everywhere might even become viable...

TD5160_ESO · April 2015

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Well, the game as it is doesn't really have any room for fractionless characters, with how the story goes through their fraction into coldharbour and only then through the others in that thing cadwells sends you on (which I still treat as an excursion into a "what if" dream for my characters, ignoring the question where those items drops come from if its a dream... )

However... once you finish cadwells, things might be possible to get an option to change at some day. I know I really would enjoy havinan "fraction loyalty called in question" questline that allows characters to either prove their localty to their fraction, or "defect" to a different one. And if that ever happened, they could even add the option to defect to a "neutral" faction as "different one" - though seeing how that would be a lot of work, I wouldn't count on it... they'd have to take a lot of things into account, not in the least what regions you gain access too (each map but cyrodil exists in three versions after all, for the three fractions - do you gain access to DC glenumbra at levels up to 16 or so, EP glenumbra at V1, or AD glenumbra at V6...?)

Of course, I would also like it if they changed the way maps were done, and have one "veteran" version of each map added for people post cadwells, at an map level of, say, V12, where people can do daily quests in their homelands, and invade other fractions "veteran zones" as intruders, with PvP possibilities (though at an severe disadvantage for the "intruders" with all NPCs hostile to them, including the town guards killing them on sight, no vendors speaking with them, etc. - but with new "infiltration/sabotage" daily quests they could choose to do...).
If they eveer made something like that... then fractionless characters that are neutral but attackable to all everywhere might even become viable...

Good read, but this was bugging me a lot... It's Faction, not Fraction

Gidorick · April 2015

TD5160_ESO wrote: »

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Well, the game as it is doesn't really have any room for fractionless characters, with how the story goes through their fraction into coldharbour and only then through the others in that thing cadwells sends you on (which I still treat as an excursion into a "what if" dream for my characters, ignoring the question where those items drops come from if its a dream... )

However... once you finish cadwells, things might be possible to get an option to change at some day. I know I really would enjoy havinan "fraction loyalty called in question" questline that allows characters to either prove their localty to their fraction, or "defect" to a different one. And if that ever happened, they could even add the option to defect to a "neutral" faction as "different one" - though seeing how that would be a lot of work, I wouldn't count on it... they'd have to take a lot of things into account, not in the least what regions you gain access too (each map but cyrodil exists in three versions after all, for the three fractions - do you gain access to DC glenumbra at levels up to 16 or so, EP glenumbra at V1, or AD glenumbra at V6...?)

Of course, I would also like it if they changed the way maps were done, and have one "veteran" version of each map added for people post cadwells, at an map level of, say, V12, where people can do daily quests in their homelands, and invade other fractions "veteran zones" as intruders, with PvP possibilities (though at an severe disadvantage for the "intruders" with all NPCs hostile to them, including the town guards killing them on sight, no vendors speaking with them, etc. - but with new "infiltration/sabotage" daily quests they could choose to do...).
If they eveer made something like that... then fractionless characters that are neutral but attackable to all everywhere might even become viable...

Good read, but this was bugging me a lot... It's Faction, not Fraction

I suspect he's on a phone.....

TheShadowScout · April 2015

Actually that was a fault of not being an native typer of english, and misremembering that one word. I will make note of the correct one from now on! ;-)

Dre4dwolfb14_ESO · April 2015

I would like the ability to convert to faction-less.
So I can go into cyrodill and murder everyone equally like its meant to be.

Gidorick · April 2015

Dre4dwolfb14_ESO wrote: »

I would like the ability to convert to faction-less.
So I can go into cyrodill and murder everyone equally like its meant to be.

Exactly!

SHADOW2KK · April 2015

Dre4dwolfb14_ESO wrote: »

I would like the ability to convert to faction-less.
So I can go into cyrodill and murder everyone equally like its meant to be.

Aye, agreed, few things are as pleasurable in gaming life than being on TS with your mates and hearing them snarl again cos you killed them:}

leshpar · April 2015

In game my character is factionless, but because of my race I have to say I am a member of the Pact at least on paper.

That's the way I look at it.

Dre4dwolfb14_ESO · April 2015

leshpar wrote: »

In game my character is factionless, but because of my race I have to say I am a member of the Pact at least on paper.

That's the way I look at it.

Im pretty much factionless because I rob/pickpocket and murder most of the NPCS in town all day anyway ^^ . . .

lihentian · April 2015

everyone is factionless.... you will join each faction..only things matter is which one you join first....

eNumbra · April 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

It's kind of weird for them to advertise the Imperials as a separate faction then, wouldn't you say?

They are a separate faction - an NPC faction.

UrQuan · April 2015

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Actually that was a fault of not being an native typer of english, and misremembering that one word. I will make note of the correct one from now on! ;-)

For the record, fraction is also a proper english word - just one with a different meaning. And I wouldn't have know you aren't a native typer of english from your post, as that was the only thing I saw wrong with it, and it's a mistake I've seen plenty of people make, even when english is their first language.

UrQuan · April 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

It says: "(Imperials) can be found in the ranks of every alliance or opposed to all three, bringing their considerable skills to bear wherever they choose to fight."

I believe that text is referring to all of the Imperial forces in Cyrodiil who oppose all three alliances.

Gidorick · April 2015

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Actually that was a fault of not being an native typer of english, and misremembering that one word. I will make note of the correct one from now on! ;-)

Really? I wouldn't have ever guessed. It really is embarrassing how many people speak English and how few native English speakers know another language.

Gidorick · April 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

It says: "(Imperials) can be found in the ranks of every alliance or opposed to all three, bringing their considerable skills to bear wherever they choose to fight."

I believe that text is referring to all of the Imperial forces in Cyrodiil who oppose all three alliances.

GAH! You're right! It's saying that IMPERIALS are opposed to all 3, not that the player can be opposed to all 3. It's amazing how a little shift in point of view can change your perspective