v1-v14 climb is too much.

Haquor · April 2015

Fyi... in wow you are also playing wow for a week.

SHADOW2KK · April 2015

Zheg wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Aye that is right, they didn`t so do not have the arrogance to say to me that I am lying/trolling or that you know what is happening in my game when you clearly know nothing.

You are right about groups of peeps having xp nerfed and worse if someone jumps in and leeches.

And again you are making statements about me when you misunderstand what I said.

At no point did I say I refuse to take part, actually read my comments before you post about what I say, or my state of mind regarding things.

I said I hate grinding, but I also said I do it when I want too, I have other chars that I am thinking of levelling and will do so when I feel like it.

Hardly refusing to take part in it again is it?

Refusal is not doing something at all, when I grinded my main up to vr14 when 1.5 came in, and spent 3 hours in hircines grinding it, I admit i refused to do it again, but then I did a few months later.

To clear up some things for you - the XP you see from your FTC add-on is champion XP, not veteran XP. Just because you see 3k XP scroll across your screen from the add-on does not mean that's how much veteran XP you get. Enlightenment does NOT apply to veteran leveling. To prove this, if you have a veteran character that isn't v14, hover over your XP bar to see where you start off at, go kill something while enlightened and see what FTC gives you. Now go hover over your XP bar again and figure out the difference. You will see that enlightened XP does not apply to veteran leveling.

Second, I think the reason you're driving some people bonkers here is because you haven't leveled veteran characters post 1.6 (if I'm interpreting your posts correctly) but still making assumptions that aren't necessarily true any more. For example, the XP you get for delves, dolmens, and world boss completions has been heavily nerfed. Many quests seem to award lower XP as a percentage towards a veteran rank than they used to as well. Just because the XP required for a veteran level is now 1 million for each veteran rank, does NOT mean it's quicker/easier than it used to be. To throw random numbers out there to explain this point, let's say previously you used to kill a world boss and it would give you 3% of a veteran level, though the raw number might be 30k XP. Now when you kill that world boss and get 5k XP, you get 1% of a veteran level on the new scale.

I also have a suspicion that the XP rewarded for silver/gold for quests (depending on which alliance you start with) isn't scaled correctly. They did not do a straight forward conversion of XP when they changed to the 1 mil per level system, and I highly doubt when they changed the reward XP for quests and whatnot that they didn't make any mistakes - especially given their track record of putting things in a patch, saying the new bug on said item is fixed in the next patch notes, re-affirming in the next patch notes that they got it this time, and then trying to insist in the very next patch notes that they're sure they fixed it now (...maybe.).

The biggest problem of all is that there hasn't been a single response on all of this stuff in over a month, so we're going to continue to get more threads and posts on it because ZOS sometimes likes to make bad decisions like wrecking XP and then refusing to comment on it for 5+ weeks.

Fair enough, I accept your line of reasoning, and see that I unwittingly gave a false outlook on the subject, maybe you get more xp if you are still subbed, as I notice you get 10% extra xp if subbed, so that may help others trying to grind, I am aware that xp has been nerfed considerably however.

Thank you for your candour and unlike the OP and name calling and generally being abusive, you took the time to couch your response in a clear and respectful manner, for that, you got an awesome:}

Ley · April 2015

@Suru Would be one hell of a week, playing 15 hours a day I imagine.

carlos.trevisan.contatonrb19_ESO · April 2015

They wont change it.
They will sell 50% XP Boost.
You wont buy it at start. You will try fight against it. will come here o forums and start threads about XP income and game mechanics. Then you will buy it later, when you see all other players get XP much much fast.

Ps: Im not against XP boost. Im against a game that FORCES you to buy XP boost if you want do more stuff ingame with your free tome than grinding...

Suru · April 2015

Ley wrote: »

@Suru Would be one hell of a week, playing 15 hours a day I imagine.

If people realized that killing mobs per your vet levels and with some campaign buffs would be around 500exp per, vet grinding wouldnt be so bad.

Haquor · April 2015

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

How about you pay attention before abbreviating your foul language and bad attitude. Next time read the entire OP before just vomiting a remark about your opinion on a forum.

I read your whole original post. And paid attention. Summary you need max and its too hard.

You are doing it completely wrong if you are 200 hours into vet content and are at v9.

L2P before demanding change because you are getting tired. 200 hours is rediculous. You could get to v14 twice over in that with very little grinding.

Im levelling my 6th v14 and i hit v12 last night. A few hours a night after work of questing and i get a vet rank every 2 days. No grinding. So whatever you are doing. Its incorrect.

once you cleared every zone, focus on cyrodil dailies and you will get your last few ranks at the same rate.

200 hours to v9 just destroyed the credability of your post.

unfortunately it is a L2P issue and you would be Pvping at v14 a loooooong time ago and would never have posted this if you had.

filmoretub17_ESO · April 2015

Haquor wrote: »

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

How about you pay attention before abbreviating your foul language and bad attitude. Next time read the entire OP before just vomiting a remark about your opinion on a forum.

I read your whole original post. And paid attention. Summary you need max and its too hard.

You are doing it completely wrong if you are 200 hours into vet content and are at v9.

L2P before demanding change because you are getting tired. 200 hours is rediculous. You could get to v14 twice over in that with very little grinding.

Im levelling my 6th v14 and i hit v12 last night. A few hours a night after work of questing and i get a vet rank every 2 days. No grinding. So whatever you are doing. Its incorrect.

once you cleared every zone, focus on cyrodil dailies and you will get your last few ranks at the same rate.

200 hours to v9 just destroyed the credability of your post.

unfortunately it is a L2P issue and you would be Pvping at v14 a loooooong time ago and would never have posted this if you had.

So a couple hours of casual questing every night lands you a vet rank every 2 days? So you are doing 30-40 quests per night as a casual player? Lets say you are really fast and ignore everything and complete a quest every 10 minutes. That is 5-6.6 hours of gameplay per night. That is hardly casual my friend and making no sense at all. Questing takes about 10 hours to get 1 vet rank and that is running through ignoring conversation grinding when you find a spot.

Rhajin · April 2015

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »

you can get a VR every 2 hours.

it takes 20 hours to get 50.

sooo it takes 28 hours to get vr14

*** you can get to 50 in 20hours and 28 hours to get to v1-v14 where do you grind? Quests only give me 499xp per hand in at v1

Rhajin · April 2015

Elder_III wrote: »

I was VR13 and about 35% past it when i first did Craglorn. That was just from completing every map in each alliance 100%. If you play the content you will have no problems at all leveling up without grinding.

I call BS I'm getting 499 xp per quest hand in. How am I supposed to get a vet level each zone if all I'm getting is 499 xp per quest? I'm v1 btw in stonefell.

filmoretub17_ESO · April 2015

Rhajin wrote: »

Elder_III wrote: »

I was VR13 and about 35% past it when i first did Craglorn. That was just from completing every map in each alliance 100%. If you play the content you will have no problems at all leveling up without grinding.

I call BS I'm getting 499 xp per quest hand in. How am I supposed to get a vet level each zone if all I'm getting is 499 xp per quest? I'm v1 btw in stonefell.

As v1 you will get between 499-10k per quest. There are quite a few of the little 499 quests out there but there are also a lot of the 5k to 10k quests as well. Once you reach v5 or so you can get up to 16k for a quest completion.

pecheckler · April 2015

Doing 90% of quests and objectives in each zone I am almost VR9 and still haven't even finished Cadwell's silver. What's the rush to max level?

bg22 · April 2015

Powtreeman wrote: »

This is ridiculous. It is an MMORPG. Rushing to max level when there isn't all that much end game stuff yet......You will just end up complaining about how boring the game is soon.

I have a 15 page thread going on this topic...

But prolonging the terrible leveling experience does not prolong end game.

And if you're a PvP'er, the entire game is PvP... So forcing ppl to play for weeks and weeks just to reach V14 so they're relevant in Cyrodiil is terrible.

The game doesn't open up until V14. Everyone that knows ANYTHING about this game knows that.