Ability to buy Vampirism and Lycanism with crowns?

Danikat · April 2015

Argoniawind wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

Argoniawind wrote: »

with Skyrim you had to buy the dawnguard dlc to be either of them, so I say yes buying it apart of a bundle potion pack in this game would be fine!!

Nope, vampire/ww came with the base game.

No it didn't!! you couldn't unlock the skill trees until dawnguard

You could become a vampire or werewolf in the base game, but you got all the bonuses automatically. Dawnguard simply added skill trees for them.

I can't remember how you become a vampire but becoming a werewolf is part of the Companion's quest line.

BBSooner · April 2015

Argoniawind wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

Argoniawind wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

Argoniawind wrote: »

with Skyrim you had to buy the dawnguard dlc to be either of them, so I say yes buying it apart of a bundle potion pack in this game would be fine!!

Nope, vampire/ww came with the base game.

No it didn't!! you couldn't unlock the skill trees until dawnguard

The ability to become ww is a companion quest (base game), the ability to become a vampire is a "find the disease in the wild" (base game).

need proof? http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Dawnguard

Dawnguard only expanded the afflictions. You can contract Lycanthropy and Vampirism in the base game. Please play Skyrim.

Kallipsoe · April 2015

I don't think this is play to win as long as they don't remove the ability for players to bite other players or get the infection from NPC's in-game. Its to easy to get either of these bites by either figuring out the spawn times or getting another player to bite you for gold or the kindness of their hart.

If they added this to the crown store it would just target the new players to the game that wanted to start from level 1 as a Vamp/WW. I would consider a player to be stupid or lazy to buy this from the store, but there are plenty that would.

I would have no problem with this simply because it does not make a player better to or equal to another player. If the player really wanted Vamp/WW he/she would get it before they became competitive in PvP or PVE anyways. It would just make his questing a little more fun for the player. Vamp/WW is just that easy to get in game, let Zos make a few bucks off people that want it from level 1.

Argoniawind · April 2015

BBSooner wrote: »

Argoniawind wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

Argoniawind wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

Argoniawind wrote: »

with Skyrim you had to buy the dawnguard dlc to be either of them, so I say yes buying it apart of a bundle potion pack in this game would be fine!!

Nope, vampire/ww came with the base game.

No it didn't!! you couldn't unlock the skill trees until dawnguard

The ability to become ww is a companion quest (base game), the ability to become a vampire is a "find the disease in the wild" (base game).

need proof? http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Dawnguard

Dawnguard only expanded the afflictions. You can contract Lycanthropy and Vampirism in the base game. Please play Skyrim.

I have over 800 hours into Skyrim, um I like Morrowind and Oblivion better thanks tho. Anyhow I am an Argonian so I have natural resistances and while I stand corrected you can become a werewolf with hercines ring or completing the companions quest to which I forgot about cus I didn't show any interest until I bought dawnguard. and vampire is never been an interest to me.. but yes I forgot I thought that you could only become those when you buy the dawnguard dlc but it was to become vampire lord and unlock the skill trees.. so I was half right!

MornaBaine · April 2015

While I would like to see things FOR vamps and wolves sold in the store (since that is obviously the only thing ZOS is ever going to consider doing for them aside from nerfing them even more into unplayability) the skill lines themselves are easily acquired in the game and need to remain as is.

idk · April 2015

This is just silly. Having had vamp on 2 characters and werewolf on 4 I've seems it's the easiest thing in the game to acquire. All my characters aquifer it naturally, meaning from NPC bites. Have never understood the need to buy a bite and even less to spend real world $ for one other than laziness.

Kallipsoe · April 2015

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

This is just silly. Having had vamp on 2 characters and werewolf on 4 I've seems it's the easiest thing in the game to acquire. All my characters aquifer it naturally, meaning from NPC bites. Have never understood the need to buy a bite and even less to spend real world $ for one other than laziness.

Laziness being the key word. We all know that players would pay "money" for this and Vamp/WW bites fit the definition of convenience items because they are too easy to obtain in-game.

Anilahation · April 2015

Danikat wrote: »

Firstly why would you want to pay for something that's available free in game?

Secondly it may not be pay to win in the sense that being a vampire or werewolf doesn't give you a massive advantage but it's definitely in the category of pay to skip playing (part of) the game.

You may as well ask to buy access to the Fighters and Mages guilds, so you don't have to do the 1st quest. It's the same idea - paying to skip past a part of the game - and equally pointless since you can find people offering free bites in the starter towns along with those quests. (Or people recruiting for guilds, which will quite likely have at least one vampire or werewolf willing to bite members.)

i mean you can also get a motif for free and... it's on the store
also my bad on the lycanthropy being misspelled.

UrQuan · April 2015

AlienSlof wrote: »

Keron wrote: »

Lycantrophy. It's called Lycantrophy. Not Lycanism.

You 'ism.

It's spelled 'lycanthropy' actually. Get it right before correcting and insulting someone else. Talk about the blind leading the blind. :P

I believe that if you kill a werewolf, stuff his head and hang it on your wall, then you have a Lycantrophy.

AlienSlof · April 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

I believe that if you kill a werewolf, stuff his head and hang it on your wall, then you have a Lycantrophy.

Hahahaha! Well played!

UrQuan · April 2015

AlienSlof wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

I believe that if you kill a werewolf, stuff his head and hang it on your wall, then you have a Lycantrophy.

Hahahaha! Well played!

Not going to lie, I love finding stupid punny meanings for typos...

MCMancub · April 2015

I don't think it would make much sense, since becoming a WW or a Vampire requires more than just being bitten. It requires you to complete a series of quests. The bite applies a limited time buff that allows you to do the quest. I just don't think it would work, regardless of whether or not they should or shouldn't do it.

UrQuan · April 2015

MCMancub wrote: »

I don't think it would make much sense, since becoming a WW or a Vampire requires more than just being bitten. It requires you to complete a series of quests. The bite applies a limited time buff that allows you to do the quest. I just don't think it would work, regardless of whether or not they should or shouldn't do it.

Can you imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth if they offered a consumable in the crown store that gave you the infection, and then low level newbies bought it and were unable to complete the quest in the 7 days? Methinks there would be some angry folks demanding refunds... Yup, I'm of the opinion that this is not a good idea.

zeuseason · April 2015

I say no because players might not like it, have to get cured and lose out on those crowns (thus massively complaining to ZOS).

MCMancub · April 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

MCMancub wrote: »

I don't think it would make much sense, since becoming a WW or a Vampire requires more than just being bitten. It requires you to complete a series of quests. The bite applies a limited time buff that allows you to do the quest. I just don't think it would work, regardless of whether or not they should or shouldn't do it.

Can you imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth if they offered a consumable in the crown store that gave you the infection, and then low level newbies bought it and were unable to complete the quest in the 7 days? Methinks there would be some angry folks demanding refunds... Yup, I'm of the opinion that this is not a good idea.

That was exactly my thought. It just doesn't seem do-able. They'd have to completely redo how you obtain them for everyone.

tinythinker · April 2015

xMovingTarget wrote: »

These put this and that in the crownstore threads are getting out of hand.. Ppl suggest more and more dumb things to let us getting dictated by it..

Pls give us the sub back zen..

Keron wrote: »

I can't even... on this continued "put this in crown store".

Who is surprised by this once that Pandora's Box was opened? It will continue. Players will ask for everything already in the game (buying VR14 was suggested several weeks ago) and for things not currently in the game that they want from other games (such as fighting NPC companions, also suggested several weeks ago).

Slurg · April 2015

MCMancub wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

MCMancub wrote: »

I don't think it would make much sense, since becoming a WW or a Vampire requires more than just being bitten. It requires you to complete a series of quests. The bite applies a limited time buff that allows you to do the quest. I just don't think it would work, regardless of whether or not they should or shouldn't do it.

Can you imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth if they offered a consumable in the crown store that gave you the infection, and then low level newbies bought it and were unable to complete the quest in the 7 days? Methinks there would be some angry folks demanding refunds... Yup, I'm of the opinion that this is not a good idea.

That was exactly my thought. It just doesn't seem do-able. They'd have to completely redo how you obtain them for everyone.

Actually they wouldn't have to redo it for everyone if they let the people who pay crowns have the ability full-on without doing the quest line.

There is precedence now with the new crown store purple motifs that don't require the minimum crafting passives that are required to use the in-game purple motifs.

I am not supporting this idea -
I'm just saying don't assume that it would have to work the same way as it does in game.

Zhoyzu · April 2015

"lycanism"

mfw

EQBallzz · April 2015

xMovingTarget wrote: »

These put this and that in the crownstore threads are getting out of hand.. Ppl suggest more and more dumb things to let us getting dictated by it..

Pls give us the sub back zen..

Completely agree. It's really unbearable. You know it's just a matter of time before ZOS starts listening to them, too. I have already started looking for another game tbh. All I see from ESO's future is this type of crap getting worse.

TequilaFire · April 2015

From a werewolf's point of view it was more immersive being attacked in Reaper's March when the moons were out and then having to beat a quest which used to be a challenge.

AlnilamE · April 2015

EQBallzz wrote: »

xMovingTarget wrote: »

These put this and that in the crownstore threads are getting out of hand.. Ppl suggest more and more dumb things to let us getting dictated by it..

Pls give us the sub back zen..

Completely agree. It's really unbearable. You know it's just a matter of time before ZOS starts listening to them, too. I have already started looking for another game tbh. All I see from ESO's future is this type of crap getting worse.

I'm thinking that 90% of these threads are just trolling.

jkemmery · April 2015

AlnilamE wrote: »

I'm thinking that 90% of these threads are just trolling.

I'm beginning to agree. It's like they are testing the mods to see exactly at what line of obvious will they shut down a thread for trolling.

xMovingTarget · April 2015

I dont think these are trolls, but credit card heroes.

EQBallzz · April 2015

xMovingTarget wrote: »

I dont think these are trolls, but credit card heroes.

I think one or two were trolls just to point out the absurdity of where this system is going (like the thread about putting skill points for sale on the store) but I think most are actually real..sadly.

Anilahation · April 2015

not trolling... but I mean the ESO community is also against duels and was pretty much against chat bubbles... so what can you expect.

Heromofo · April 2015

But where does it stop? If they went this path how long till emperor is there or future skill lines of the sort. I dont mind giving away my bites if just to keep this out of the store. Got to be careful before eso becomes swtor and just favors cartel or crown players only. By this i mean making things in the game harder than they should be to make people want to take a short cut.

It is a very very slippery slope

RedTalon · April 2015

Tricky to say, and its very easy to find free bites in game now a-days.

People like me give out werewolf bites once a week free of charge, have yet to make a vampire char but if such a thing ends up in the crown store will make one just so people aren't tempted or feel pressured to buy vampire bites from the store.

RedTalon · April 2015

Heromofo wrote: »

But where does it stop? If they went this path how long till emperor is there or future skill lines of the sort. I dont mind giving away my bites if just to keep this out of the store. Got to be careful before eso becomes swtor and just favors cartel or crown players only. By this i mean making things in the game harder than they should be to make people want to take a short cut.

It is a very very slippery slope

More they would add a new skill line so it isn't called emp more war veteran skills.

Kinda like the did with the preorder bonus pack, different names, but same thing

Zershar_Vemod · April 2015

Are you serious OP......?

You really need to ask? Of course it'd be P2W. Good grief how *** far we've fallen as a community since TU launched. This is pathetic.

UrQuan · April 2015

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »

not trolling... but I mean the ESO community is also against duels and was pretty much against chat bubbles... so what can you expect.

I don't remember the community being against chat bubbles per se. The community has seemed to be against forced chat bubbles. And the only argument I remember seeing against duels is that people could troll you by spamming duel requests, but I would imagine that it would be easy to put in place an "ignore duel requests" option, or an option to ignore duel requests from people on your ignore list.