1 year later... still broken

seaef · April 2015

MCMancub wrote: »

Kalman wrote: »

Warlordgreebo wrote: »

My connection as in not being able to download 100 Gigs? I think if you look around the net, you will find most do not want to have to use that much bandwidth.

I use way more then that each month. I use a minimum of TB a month.

I can kind of see his point here. Comcast gives me a data cap of 300GB per month. It's extra if I go over (and I do go over). But, honestly, my service is so cheap for the speeds I get that I don't really care that much.

Really? It must be by region. Comcast never charges me if I go over. I may get a warning if it happens every month, but I never get charged. They changed that policy a while ago. I remember getting a letter in the mail about it.

Cherryblossom · April 2015

KryptonianJedi wrote: »

MCMancub wrote: »

KryptonianJedi wrote: »

MCMancub wrote: »

The game is just slightly over 80GB, and rightly so. It's easily the best looking MMO on the market.

Besides, in today's technological world 80GB is nothing to a lot of people. Laptops are shipping with 2-3TB standard now.

The biggest bottleneck is honestly internet speed, and if you live in any city that's "advanced" enough to have cable (seriously, cable is on the way out thanks to Google Fiber and many still don't have cable) then it won't take any time to download.

I have neither of those issues...

SSD space (SSD for games only): 250GB...check

Internet Speed: 105Mbps DL, 20Mbps UL...check

Internet Data Cap: None

Installing ESO: Double-click on installer...loading reaches 100%, then nothing happens...fail

You shouldn't be installing games on an SSD for this exact reason. SSDs are meant for performance, not storage.

EDIT: And I should add that the performance increase you get from games on an SSD is negligible.

Wrong and...wrong!

My advice to you is to not offer up advice when you don't know what you are talking about.

A lot of games will not see a discernible performance increase from being installed on an SSD, MMOs however, which access and load large amounts of data at a time (i.e. zones/loading areas) do in fact see performance gains from being installed on an SSD.

So, you may want to do some more research and get your facts straight before offering up advice about things in which you are clearly uninformed.

I agree, I have noticed a huge speeding up of load screens in ESO and other MMO I play since adding a SSD.
I have 2 now, 1 for my OS the other for games and I have a Hybrid for storage of Music, Pictures and games I feel won't benefit from my SSD.
Everyone I know with SSD have also noticed an improvement and it is measurable as I got a few friends to upgrade when they realised I was loading into a zone way before them when we started at the same time.

KryptonianJedi · April 2015

Cherryblossom wrote: »

KryptonianJedi wrote: »

MCMancub wrote: »

KryptonianJedi wrote: »

MCMancub wrote: »

The game is just slightly over 80GB, and rightly so. It's easily the best looking MMO on the market.

Besides, in today's technological world 80GB is nothing to a lot of people. Laptops are shipping with 2-3TB standard now.

The biggest bottleneck is honestly internet speed, and if you live in any city that's "advanced" enough to have cable (seriously, cable is on the way out thanks to Google Fiber and many still don't have cable) then it won't take any time to download.

I have neither of those issues...

SSD space (SSD for games only): 250GB...check

Internet Speed: 105Mbps DL, 20Mbps UL...check

Internet Data Cap: None

Installing ESO: Double-click on installer...loading reaches 100%, then nothing happens...fail

You shouldn't be installing games on an SSD for this exact reason. SSDs are meant for performance, not storage.

EDIT: And I should add that the performance increase you get from games on an SSD is negligible.

Wrong and...wrong!

My advice to you is to not offer up advice when you don't know what you are talking about.

A lot of games will not see a discernible performance increase from being installed on an SSD, MMOs however, which access and load large amounts of data at a time (i.e. zones/loading areas) do in fact see performance gains from being installed on an SSD.

So, you may want to do some more research and get your facts straight before offering up advice about things in which you are clearly uninformed.

I agree, I have noticed a huge speeding up of load screens in ESO and other MMO I play since adding a SSD.
I have 2 now, 1 for my OS the other for games and I have a Hybrid for storage of Music, Pictures and games I feel won't benefit from my SSD.
Everyone I know with SSD have also noticed an improvement and it is measurable as I got a few friends to upgrade when they realised I was loading into a zone way before them when we started at the same time.

Exactly! I have friends that have migrated over to SSDs as well after playing with me and always falling behind after I am loading in faster than they are. I too have one for my OS (which is where you will see the biggest performance gains) and two others for certain games that seem to benefit from an SSD.

I also have an HDD for other storage, i.e. files and other games that don't benefit from an SSD.

bosmern_ESO · April 2015

Cherryblossom wrote: »

Although I had no problem installing the game, I still like many others get the "Repair" sometimes when I open the launcher, I ignore and close and re-open again until it goes away.
Everytime there is a patch the first log in I Alt +F4 as it will never load, like many others.
There are hundreds of threads on the Support page with Hundreds of replies from users on this one issue, which has been an issue currently forever for this game...
Not to mention when you get into the game there are still the same bugged skills (cloak anyone!) and the same if not worse Lag.

So the Op's title "1 year still broken" is correct. All you defenders cannot say these bugs and issues don't exist they are well documented.

I would love the game to work well, but it just doesn't, which is a shame as it is an amazing game visually and PVP would be the best ever, if it worked......

The examples you brought up are completely off subject. OP is complaining that his launcher isn't working because he refuses to listen to support for w/e reason, and because he doesn't listen to support and the problem persists he says that its supports fault and they need to get better.

OP is just being an angry child at this point.

Stonesthrow · April 2015

Isn't this the kinder and gentler ESO forums?

Games not broken.

A few bugs and a few other problems here and there, but I have been rolling since the NOV Betas and I have never had a single problem like the OP suggested. All patches and updates have worked including PTS and switching back and forth, so not so sure its a ZOS problem in this case.

Gix · April 2015

Warlordgreebo wrote: »

And no, my email wasnt the flaw, it was the fact that they took 2 freaking hours to send a security code, that normal companies send in like 5 seconds.

I had the exact same experience trying to log in my account and, even once I received the e-mail, it took two attempts to make it work.

Or the time I sent a ticket because I lost crafting materials in my bank (after patching to v1.6) and was told that I'd get a rep to look into the matter. All I got was an e-mail stating that if I didn't have any problems, they'd close the ticket. I e-mailed them back stating they didn't do jack-!@#$ to fix my problem and my ticket was closed.

I didn't care about my mats to make it such a big deal, but the way they treated my problem lacks professionalism.

I wouldn't blame the game for this, though, but the customer service is run by pure incompetence.

liquid_wolf · April 2015

Not sure what to tell the OP...

It wouldn't install at his house... but it did install and work properly when he went to someone else's house.

The problem appears to be the connection/service at his house. Maybe his router/modem, but still has nothing to do with the installer/launcher since it was proven to work elsewhere.

Moonshadow66 · April 2015

Gix wrote: »

Warlordgreebo wrote: »

And no, my email wasnt the flaw, it was the fact that they took 2 freaking hours to send a security code, that normal companies send in like 5 seconds.

I had the exact same experience trying to log in my account and, even once I received the e-mail, it took two attempts to make it work.

Or the time I sent a ticket because I lost crafting materials in my bank (after patching to v1.6) and was told that I'd get a rep to look into the matter. All I got was an e-mail stating that if I didn't have any problems, they'd close the ticket. I e-mailed them back stating they didn't do jack-!@#$ to fix my problem and my ticket was closed.

I didn't care about my mats to make it such a big deal, but the way they treated my problem lacks professionalism.

I wouldn't blame the game for this, though, but the customer service is run by pure incompetence.

^This.
I had to deal with a similar reaction, too - unsubscribed right away.
Edit: They even had the guts to send a survey afterwards. Every mail I sent after this was ignored, and still is.

Gandrhulf_Harbard · April 2015

MCMancub wrote: »

The game is just slightly over 80GB, and rightly so. It's easily the best looking MMO on the market.

Besides, in today's technological world 80GB is nothing to a lot of people. Laptops are shipping with 2-3TB standard now.

The size required on disk isn't the issue.

Its the download size.

Outside of the US unlimited bandwidth packages are still not the norm.

I'm on a 40GB monthly package and blew through that with ease in the fist week of playing: a 32GB Install and then a 20GB+ patch.

All The Best

Warlordgreebo · April 2015

Sylveria_Relden wrote: »

Actually I've noticed something recently myself with the launcher - but I happen to have my install located on an SSD (as a speed test).

When I've got it on a standard hard drive I've never had issues with it calling for repair- but the SSD one randomly pops up with a message it needs to repair. I just ignore it, close the launcher, relaunch and it works fine. Not sure if this is due to the DRM stuff they've got programmed into the game to protect it or what, but the way SSD's work are completely different from standard hard drives- so it may be a bug.

Just something to test- try closing the launcher, relaunch it then see what it does.

No you are correct; this is a workaround for the "patchmanifest" error that we have been getting the last year.

Warlordgreebo · April 2015

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Cherryblossom wrote: »

Although I had no problem installing the game, I still like many others get the "Repair" sometimes when I open the launcher, I ignore and close and re-open again until it goes away.
Everytime there is a patch the first log in I Alt +F4 as it will never load, like many others.
There are hundreds of threads on the Support page with Hundreds of replies from users on this one issue, which has been an issue currently forever for this game...
Not to mention when you get into the game there are still the same bugged skills (cloak anyone!) and the same if not worse Lag.

So the Op's title "1 year still broken" is correct. All you defenders cannot say these bugs and issues don't exist they are well documented.

I would love the game to work well, but it just doesn't, which is a shame as it is an amazing game visually and PVP would be the best ever, if it worked......

The examples you brought up are completely off subject. OP is complaining that his launcher isn't working because he refuses to listen to support for w/e reason, and because he doesn't listen to support and the problem persists he says that its supports fault and they need to get better.

OP is just being an angry child at this point.

Actually my anger with ESO kinda went away once it started working. I am sore that they would suggest things that I had already done, but otherwise I am having a fine time.

In short, running repair and going somewhere with 'unlimited' bandwidth was the solution. If having unlimited bandwidth is a requirement for all players, then I feel sorry for them.

Warlordgreebo · April 2015

liquid_wolf wrote: »

Not sure what to tell the OP...

It wouldn't install at his house... but it did install and work properly when he went to someone else's house.

The problem appears to be the connection/service at his house. Maybe his router/modem, but still has nothing to do with the installer/launcher since it was proven to work elsewhere.

No, the ONLY problem at my house is that i have limited bandwidth. They would expect me to download 80+ GB at my house?? That's 50 more than my bandwidth allowed per month is. Funny how the trolls with unlimited never address this. I'll bet the forum troll has NO CLUE how much regular bandwidth the standard mmo uses in a month.

Also I reinstalled launcher as it was one of the first troubleshooting steps. Run as admin. Run repair. Do the download. IF manifest error comes up close launcher and relaunch it right away.

Deleted my addons folder as well, not sure if this was necessary. It still forced me to download the 31 GB after running repair. Unlike many who might say that launcher did not really download 31 GB, not for me, that is why I went to another persons house... because I wasnt going to pay 31 GB in overages!

Warlordgreebo · April 2015

Kalman wrote: »

Warlordgreebo wrote: »

My connection as in not being able to download 100 Gigs? I think if you look around the net, you will find most do not want to have to use that much bandwidth.

I use way more then that each month. I use a minimum of TB a month.

Good for you... that would cost like 15000 dollars in overage with my carrier. And
Im not joking.

Folkb · April 2015

I work in IT, have been for decades; users are just dumb. Good luck figuring out a fix.

Warlordgreebo · April 2015

And yes, to be quite honest, the game has improved a metric ton over what it was a year ago.

Aside from the pains of the initial update, it has gone quite smoothly since. Worth the haul? I could have done without the headache to get here, and I had been gone so long I forgot how cool this game actually is:)

Talrenos · April 2015

pronkg wrote: »

99% of the players have no issues,
But the game is broken

Incorrect. 99% of the players IGNORE the issues.

Parrotbrain · April 2015

KryptonianJedi wrote: »

Cherryblossom wrote: »

KryptonianJedi wrote: »

MCMancub wrote: »

KryptonianJedi wrote: »

MCMancub wrote: »

The game is just slightly over 80GB, and rightly so. It's easily the best looking MMO on the market.

Besides, in today's technological world 80GB is nothing to a lot of people. Laptops are shipping with 2-3TB standard now.

The biggest bottleneck is honestly internet speed, and if you live in any city that's "advanced" enough to have cable (seriously, cable is on the way out thanks to Google Fiber and many still don't have cable) then it won't take any time to download.

I have neither of those issues...

SSD space (SSD for games only): 250GB...check

Internet Speed: 105Mbps DL, 20Mbps UL...check

Internet Data Cap: None

Installing ESO: Double-click on installer...loading reaches 100%, then nothing happens...fail

You shouldn't be installing games on an SSD for this exact reason. SSDs are meant for performance, not storage.

EDIT: And I should add that the performance increase you get from games on an SSD is negligible.

Wrong and...wrong!

My advice to you is to not offer up advice when you don't know what you are talking about.

A lot of games will not see a discernible performance increase from being installed on an SSD, MMOs however, which access and load large amounts of data at a time (i.e. zones/loading areas) do in fact see performance gains from being installed on an SSD.

So, you may want to do some more research and get your facts straight before offering up advice about things in which you are clearly uninformed.

I agree, I have noticed a huge speeding up of load screens in ESO and other MMO I play since adding a SSD.
I have 2 now, 1 for my OS the other for games and I have a Hybrid for storage of Music, Pictures and games I feel won't benefit from my SSD.
Everyone I know with SSD have also noticed an improvement and it is measurable as I got a few friends to upgrade when they realised I was loading into a zone way before them when we started at the same time.

Exactly! I have friends that have migrated over to SSDs as well after playing with me and always falling behind after I am loading in faster than they are. I too have one for my OS (which is where you will see the biggest performance gains) and two others for certain games that seem to benefit from an SSD.

I also have an HDD for other storage, i.e. files and other games that don't benefit from an SSD.

I got a new gaming laptop rig and I was experiencing a similar problem to the one you posted...

I could nor run or update the game, the launcher was just stuck on the Tamriel Unlimted splash screen and did not progress any further

It turned out some third party services and startup items were interfering with the launcher working correctly.

I disabled all startup items and 3rd party services in msconfig and manually re-enabled each one until I found the offending item which I disabled permanently, my game ran fine after that. I also keep all my games on SSD and do not experience any problems with them related to where they are stored

Hope this helps

LameoveR · April 2015

Parrotbrain wrote: »

until I found the offending item which I disabled permanently
Hope this helps

What it was?

Tosfoy · April 2015

Right click, launch as administrator

AzraelKrieg · April 2015

Easiest thing I've found is to not load from the launcher and only use it for updates. Booting from the .exe bypasses the launcher and I end up with no problems at all with repair and downloadmanifest issues.

SHADOW2KK · April 2015

Talrenos wrote: »

pronkg wrote: »

99% of the players have no issues,
But the game is broken

Incorrect. 99% of the players IGNORE the issues.

Incorrect again, I cant ignore any game issues with this or any other game, and fix it or spend hours trying...

Just saying...

Nivzruo_ESO · April 2015

Just wait until you actually get into the game only to get multiple 10 min lag spikes in all areas of the game everyday.

Warlordgreebo · April 2015

Nivzruo_ESO wrote: »

Just wait until you actually get into the game only to get multiple 10 min lag spikes in all areas of the game everyday.

Im even running on 3g mobile (usually run 4g for better speed but i have passed my bandwidth limit, and want to keep it small).

Minimal lagg.

I should however tell that I do NOT use radeon vid card. I changed to Nvidia just for this game back at launch, and truth be told... that got rid of about 90% of my in game issues. Food for thought:)

Parrotbrain · April 2015

LameoveR wrote: »

Parrotbrain wrote: »

until I found the offending item which I disabled permanently
Hope this helps

What it was?

It was the asus game first service. It apparently tweaks your connection to minimize latency etc but it also seems to interfere with the ESO launcher.

Anoteros · April 2015

Warlordgreebo wrote: »

Okay, I have enough forgiveness to try a game again if it had a bad launch.... but upon returning...

I have a 1 week debacle trying to get the client to work at all. Bottom line is I had to re-download the whole client after doing a repair, also had to re-download the launcher which I did first.

Funny part- Support gives me false suggestions like my 'connection' was the problem.... lets certainly hope not - never had a problem with other mmo's. Then suggests that the consultant sais "I have an old launcher" - again false... I literally had just installed a new one before sending my Consultant text.

Okay fine, I let it slide. YOur support is clueless, what else is new? So, I go to upgrade my account. I get forced to enter a code that is never sent. Yep, no spam, no social no promotions.

Well guess what- you put your people through that much crap... no sub.

not the only thing that's broken one year on.
Better games to invest time on imo

Warlordgreebo · April 2015

I don't want to be totally unfair. Once all the patch/login issues were solved, the game has played like it was fine tuned. I think only 1 client crash in the entire time Ive been back, and no 'deal breaker' bugs... this is an ENTIRE WORLD of difference from launch:)

Warlordgreebo · April 2015

Now lets see how she updates....

Warlordgreebo · April 2015

Note; ALWAYS RUN REPAIR AFTER AN UPDATE

Now lets see how she plays:)