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1 year later... still broken

Warlordgreebo
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Okay, I have enough forgiveness to try a game again if it had a bad launch.... but upon returning...


I have a 1 week debacle trying to get the client to work at all. Bottom line is I had to re-download the whole client after doing a repair, also had to re-download the launcher which I did first.

Funny part- Support gives me false suggestions like my 'connection' was the problem.... lets certainly hope not - never had a problem with other mmo's. Then suggests that the consultant sais "I have an old launcher" - again false... I literally had just installed a new one before sending my Consultant text.

Okay fine, I let it slide. YOur support is clueless, what else is new? So, I go to upgrade my account. I get forced to enter a code that is never sent. Yep, no spam, no social no promotions.

Well guess what- you put your people through that much crap... no sub.
  • ben_ESO5
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    So, let me get this straight. You can't get the game to run at all on your machine, regardless of whether do a fresh install or not. Then you're unable to receive the security code email from ZoS. I'm sorry, but the game is not broken, I gotta side with ZoS support on this one -- you definitely have something funky going on on your side of things.

    Are you behind some sort of UTM firewall setup, or have a software firewall set up on your machine? Keep in mind that ESO's launcher has a Peer-to-Peer updating system built into it. I use a Sophos UTM setup to protect my network, and ZoS's updater tends to offend the web filter when trying to update, so more often then not, I have to turn it off temporarily until ESO is all updated (I'm too lazy to try and figure out how to allow the updater's craptastic P2P updating system through the firewall...probably best that I don't anyways).

    Another issue that arises with the P2P updater is that many ISPs block all P2P protocols, which in turn will keep the ESO updater from working correctly at all. In this case, you're forced to use a third-party internet proxy or vpn service for your internet connection in order to allow the ESO launcher to update normally.

    Edited by ben_ESO5 on April 8, 2015 4:35PM
  • Warlordgreebo
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    Well, no.

    The fact is I just had to "repair" and leave it to download around 32 GIGS in updates (most mmo clock out at 20 or so), and I already had the whole game, PLUS downloaded 30 gigs BEFORE having to repair.

    Then got two false "suggestions" from support. Connection- if I am able to run every other mmo in this setup... it is unlikely that I am the one at fault.

    This is glaringly highlighted when the support rep said I had an out dated launcher - only hours after I had followed EVERY direction on the guide short of a total reinstallation.

    The only real fix was taking my entire rig to a buddy who had unlimited cable net, and let it run repair and download ANOTHER 40ish gigs. And ioooo it works.

  • Warlordgreebo
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    And no, my email wasnt the flaw, it was the fact that they took 2 freaking hours to send a security code, that normal companies send in like 5 seconds.
  • stewhead2ub17_ESO
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    Perhaps this isn't the game for you....
  • jluceyub17_ESO
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    Well, no.

    The fact is I just had to "repair" and leave it to download around 32 GIGS in updates (most mmo clock out at 20 or so), and I already had the whole game, PLUS downloaded 30 gigs BEFORE having to repair.

    Then got two false "suggestions" from support. Connection- if I am able to run every other mmo in this setup... it is unlikely that I am the one at fault.

    This is glaringly highlighted when the support rep said I had an out dated launcher - only hours after I had followed EVERY direction on the guide short of a total reinstallation.

    The only real fix was taking my entire rig to a buddy who had unlimited cable net, and let it run repair and download ANOTHER 40ish gigs. And ioooo it works.

    So it was your internet connection and nothing to do with the game itself?
  • Warlordgreebo
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    My connection as in not being able to download 100 Gigs? I think if you look around the net, you will find most do not want to have to use that much bandwidth.

    My connection as in being unstable and causing files to become corrupt? No. And furthermore the game working now without my "connection corrupting the files" is proof of the falsehood of that entire line of crap.
  • ZiRM
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    Yes, there are things a year later that are broken. Is it excusable? Not at all...

    The things that are broken for me I reported loooong ago but I can still play the game and enjoy it, even more now that it's F2P/B2P.

    ZOS fix your game. (falls on deaf ears.) ***Shrugs*
    Want to become Vampire? 5k @ZiRM in game.
    ESO Server Status. ( ^_^)o自自o(^_^ ) SkåL!!!!!
  • Warlordgreebo
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    Perhaps this isn't the game for you....

    Or rather anyone else who doesn't like to be lied to by the staff, or be stuck in a phase of downloading infinite GB.... and not be able to play the game... yes i guess you would be correct from a certain point of view.

    But then, I am actually enjoying the game quite much, which leads me to ask what you think the game is? I do not consider the game a loop of support misleading me, or having to download 80 GB worth of data when it worked fine 4 months ago.


    To me that isnt a problem with the game, or gameplay.

  • JamesBondage
    JamesBondage
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    right after i spent 4 hours waiting for first the 30gb game, and then the 20gb update to install.. i got on of those warnings that said i might need to repair, but after hitting repair and being told that it could take HOURS to complete, i was like "f*ck that" restarted my computer and voila! i didn't have to repair, i could just play the game
  • Sylveria_Relden
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    Actually I've noticed something recently myself with the launcher - but I happen to have my install located on an SSD (as a speed test).

    When I've got it on a standard hard drive I've never had issues with it calling for repair- but the SSD one randomly pops up with a message it needs to repair. I just ignore it, close the launcher, relaunch and it works fine. Not sure if this is due to the DRM stuff they've got programmed into the game to protect it or what, but the way SSD's work are completely different from standard hard drives- so it may be a bug.

    Just something to test- try closing the launcher, relaunch it then see what it does.
    Edited by Sylveria_Relden on April 9, 2015 7:26AM
    TL;DR - If you got this far without reading the entire post you're either too lazy or suck at reading comprehension and probably don't belong in a public forum anyway. Just move along, you wouldn't understand.
  • Forumer-in-Prison
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    I personally had problems with the launcher before. Purple graphics, constant repair, re-download. Since I found out that you can just simply run the exe without opening steam or the launcher, then I just stick with that.


    Run eso.exe directly. Just make a desktop shortcut. Stop using the launcher. Use it only if needed (after maintenance)


    Edited by Forumer-in-Prison on April 9, 2015 7:19AM
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    • pronkg
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      99% of the players have no issues,
      But the game is broken
    • KryptonianJedi
      Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but what I can tell you is that I am also having problems installing the game.

      My problem is I can't even get past unzipping the install package. I double-click on the
      Install_ESO
      
      file that I downloaded, it starts going through its loading process, gets to 100%...then nothing happens.

      I have the following MMOs currently installed on my machine:

      WoW
      Guild Wars 2
      Lord of the Rings
      Marvel Heroes
      Neverwinter
      SWTOR
      Wildstar

      ...and a host of Steam games as well.

      I have a beast of a machine. I also haven't had the slightest problem with any other game I've installed before, aside from ESO. And, given the number of other threads I've already found in the few short minutes I've spent on these forums, I'd say that while the game itself may not be broken, there is an installation issue on Zen's end.

      Just my 2 cents worth.
      Edited by KryptonianJedi on April 9, 2015 2:46PM
    • sadownik
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      pronkg wrote: »
      99% of the players have no issues,
      But the game is broken

      You mean 99% of players who sccesfully instaled game and are able to launch it? Then you are right. Otherwise... pull the other one.
    • MCMancub
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      The game is just slightly over 80GB, and rightly so. It's easily the best looking MMO on the market.

      Besides, in today's technological world 80GB is nothing to a lot of people. Laptops are shipping with 2-3TB standard now.

      The biggest bottleneck is honestly internet speed, and if you live in any city that's "advanced" enough to have cable (seriously, cable is on the way out thanks to Google Fiber and many still don't have cable) then it won't take any time to download.
    • Kalman
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      My connection as in not being able to download 100 Gigs? I think if you look around the net, you will find most do not want to have to use that much bandwidth.

      I use way more then that each month. I use a minimum of TB a month.
    • MCMancub
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      Kalman wrote: »
      My connection as in not being able to download 100 Gigs? I think if you look around the net, you will find most do not want to have to use that much bandwidth.

      I use way more then that each month. I use a minimum of TB a month.

      I can kind of see his point here. Comcast gives me a data cap of 300GB per month. It's extra if I go over (and I do go over). But, honestly, my service is so cheap for the speeds I get that I don't really care that much.
    • KryptonianJedi
      MCMancub wrote: »
      The game is just slightly over 80GB, and rightly so. It's easily the best looking MMO on the market.

      Besides, in today's technological world 80GB is nothing to a lot of people. Laptops are shipping with 2-3TB standard now.

      The biggest bottleneck is honestly internet speed, and if you live in any city that's "advanced" enough to have cable (seriously, cable is on the way out thanks to Google Fiber and many still don't have cable) then it won't take any time to download.

      I have none of those issues...

      SSD space (SSD for games only): 250GB...check

      Internet Speed: 105Mbps DL, 20Mbps UL...check

      Internet Data Cap: None

      What I do have is...

      Installing ESO: Double-click on installer...loading reaches 100%, then nothing happens...fail
      Edited by KryptonianJedi on April 9, 2015 3:16PM
    • MCMancub
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      MCMancub wrote: »
      The game is just slightly over 80GB, and rightly so. It's easily the best looking MMO on the market.

      Besides, in today's technological world 80GB is nothing to a lot of people. Laptops are shipping with 2-3TB standard now.

      The biggest bottleneck is honestly internet speed, and if you live in any city that's "advanced" enough to have cable (seriously, cable is on the way out thanks to Google Fiber and many still don't have cable) then it won't take any time to download.

      I have neither of those issues...

      SSD space (SSD for games only): 250GB...check

      Internet Speed: 105Mbps DL, 20Mbps UL...check

      Internet Data Cap: None

      Installing ESO: Double-click on installer...loading reaches 100%, then nothing happens...fail

      You shouldn't be installing games on an SSD for this exact reason. SSDs are meant for performance, not storage.

      EDIT: And I should add that the performance increase you get from games on an SSD is negligible.
      Edited by MCMancub on April 9, 2015 3:18PM
    • bosmern_ESO
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      Okay, I have enough forgiveness to try a game again if it had a bad launch.... but upon returning...


      I have a 1 week debacle trying to get the client to work at all. Bottom line is I had to re-download the whole client after doing a repair, also had to re-download the launcher which I did first.

      Funny part- Support gives me false suggestions like my 'connection' was the problem.... lets certainly hope not - never had a problem with other mmo's. Then suggests that the consultant sais "I have an old launcher" - again false... I literally had just installed a new one before sending my Consultant text.

      Okay fine, I let it slide. YOur support is clueless, what else is new? So, I go to upgrade my account. I get forced to enter a code that is never sent. Yep, no spam, no social no promotions.

      Well guess what- you put your people through that much crap... no sub.

      Heres a bit of advice. If you put your consultant folder in a support ticket and they say that its out of date they are right. the consultant has every bit of information for ESO in it along with your hardware, and they probably found that your launcher was out of date. You aren't smarter then people who have tech support as a career, and if you decide to ignore what support says (who is trying to help you, but you sit there and bash them like an angry soccer mom at a grocery store because something didnt come up on sale) don't expect to fix the problem any time soon.
      ~Thallen~
    • Cherryblossom
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      Although I had no problem installing the game, I still like many others get the "Repair" sometimes when I open the launcher, I ignore and close and re-open again until it goes away.
      Everytime there is a patch the first log in I Alt +F4 as it will never load, like many others.
      There are hundreds of threads on the Support page with Hundreds of replies from users on this one issue, which has been an issue currently forever for this game...
      Not to mention when you get into the game there are still the same bugged skills (cloak anyone!) and the same if not worse Lag.

      So the Op's title "1 year still broken" is correct. All you defenders cannot say these bugs and issues don't exist they are well documented.

      I would love the game to work well, but it just doesn't, which is a shame as it is an amazing game visually and PVP would be the best ever, if it worked......
    • KryptonianJedi
      MCMancub wrote: »
      MCMancub wrote: »
      The game is just slightly over 80GB, and rightly so. It's easily the best looking MMO on the market.

      Besides, in today's technological world 80GB is nothing to a lot of people. Laptops are shipping with 2-3TB standard now.

      The biggest bottleneck is honestly internet speed, and if you live in any city that's "advanced" enough to have cable (seriously, cable is on the way out thanks to Google Fiber and many still don't have cable) then it won't take any time to download.

      I have neither of those issues...

      SSD space (SSD for games only): 250GB...check

      Internet Speed: 105Mbps DL, 20Mbps UL...check

      Internet Data Cap: None

      Installing ESO: Double-click on installer...loading reaches 100%, then nothing happens...fail

      You shouldn't be installing games on an SSD for this exact reason. SSDs are meant for performance, not storage.

      EDIT: And I should add that the performance increase you get from games on an SSD is negligible.

      Wrong and...wrong!

      My advice to you is to not offer up advice when you don't know what you are talking about.

      A lot of games will not see a discernible performance increase from being installed on an SSD, MMOs however, which access and load large amounts of data at a time (i.e. zones/loading areas) do in fact see performance gains from being installed on an SSD.

      So, you may want to do some more research and get your facts straight before offering up advice about things in which you are clearly uninformed.
      Edited by KryptonianJedi on April 9, 2015 3:32PM
    • MCMancub
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      MCMancub wrote: »
      MCMancub wrote: »
      The game is just slightly over 80GB, and rightly so. It's easily the best looking MMO on the market.

      Besides, in today's technological world 80GB is nothing to a lot of people. Laptops are shipping with 2-3TB standard now.

      The biggest bottleneck is honestly internet speed, and if you live in any city that's "advanced" enough to have cable (seriously, cable is on the way out thanks to Google Fiber and many still don't have cable) then it won't take any time to download.

      I have neither of those issues...

      SSD space (SSD for games only): 250GB...check

      Internet Speed: 105Mbps DL, 20Mbps UL...check

      Internet Data Cap: None

      Installing ESO: Double-click on installer...loading reaches 100%, then nothing happens...fail

      You shouldn't be installing games on an SSD for this exact reason. SSDs are meant for performance, not storage.

      EDIT: And I should add that the performance increase you get from games on an SSD is negligible.

      Wrong and...wrong!

      My advice to you is to not offer up advice when you don't know what you are talking about.

      A lot of games will not see a discernable performance increase from being installed on an SSD, MMOs however, which access and load large amounts of data at a time do see performance gains from being installed on an SSD.

      So, you may want to do some more research and get your facts straight before offering up advice about things in which you are clearly uninformed.

      You're right. MMOs do access and load a large amounts of data at a time. Do you know when this time is? It's during the 30 second load screen before you enter the world. Not all of it, and each game is independently different on the size of the area that is preloaded, but a good bit of the zone is loaded (not rendered, but loaded) during your load screen. Using an SSD speeds this time up negligibly.

      But then again, I'm just an indie developer in my free time. What would I know about the industry standards of dynamic loading and performance optimization. I'm competing with a Googler here.
    • s7732425ub17_ESO
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      MCMancub wrote: »
      MCMancub wrote: »
      The game is just slightly over 80GB, and rightly so. It's easily the best looking MMO on the market.

      Besides, in today's technological world 80GB is nothing to a lot of people. Laptops are shipping with 2-3TB standard now.

      The biggest bottleneck is honestly internet speed, and if you live in any city that's "advanced" enough to have cable (seriously, cable is on the way out thanks to Google Fiber and many still don't have cable) then it won't take any time to download.

      I have neither of those issues...

      SSD space (SSD for games only): 250GB...check

      Internet Speed: 105Mbps DL, 20Mbps UL...check

      Internet Data Cap: None

      Installing ESO: Double-click on installer...loading reaches 100%, then nothing happens...fail

      You shouldn't be installing games on an SSD for this exact reason. SSDs are meant for performance, not storage.

      EDIT: And I should add that the performance increase you get from games on an SSD is negligible.

      The last statement is very, very wrong. HOWEVER, ESO gets almost 0 benefit from being on an SSD. Why? Most of the loading time spent in game is actually on the server end, not your machine.
    • charley222
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      ben_ESO5 wrote: »
      So, let me get this straight. You can't get the game to run at all on your machine, regardless of whether do a fresh install or not. Then you're unable to receive the security code email from ZoS. I'm sorry, but the game is not broken, I gotta side with ZoS support on this one -- you definitely have something funky going on on your side of things.

      Are you behind some sort of UTM firewall setup, or have a software firewall set up on your machine? Keep in mind that ESO's launcher has a Peer-to-Peer updating system built into it. I use a Sophos UTM setup to protect my network, and ZoS's updater tends to offend the web filter when trying to update, so more often then not, I have to turn it off temporarily until ESO is all updated (I'm too lazy to try and figure out how to allow the updater's craptastic P2P updating system through the firewall...probably best that I don't anyways).

      Another issue that arises with the P2P updater is that many ISPs block all P2P protocols, which in turn will keep the ESO updater from working correctly at all. In this case, you're forced to use a third-party internet proxy or vpn service for your internet connection in order to allow the ESO launcher to update normally.

      you dont have a single glue of what you saying
      i leave the game for the same probleme of op
      and now i got any issue and enjoy poe so much :) eso is just dissapoint and bug
      i send over 10 email to have my code , and yea this game is broken and the core of the game and pvp still laggin in hell the weeken and prime time
      the wall of the covenant
    • MCMancub
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      It's not wrong. You need to understand the difference between reading from disk and reading from memory. During your load screen, ESO moves the files it needs into memory from the disk. Those objects are then dynamically loaded from memory as they're needed in the game. Your SSD only slightly increases your load screen time. It does literally nothing for you in game.

      EDIT: Reading from disk is pretty slow compared to memory, that's why we only do it once and have such long wait times at the loading screen.
      Edited by MCMancub on April 9, 2015 3:40PM
    • KryptonianJedi
      MCMancub wrote: »
      MCMancub wrote: »
      MCMancub wrote: »
      The game is just slightly over 80GB, and rightly so. It's easily the best looking MMO on the market.

      Besides, in today's technological world 80GB is nothing to a lot of people. Laptops are shipping with 2-3TB standard now.

      The biggest bottleneck is honestly internet speed, and if you live in any city that's "advanced" enough to have cable (seriously, cable is on the way out thanks to Google Fiber and many still don't have cable) then it won't take any time to download.

      I have neither of those issues...

      SSD space (SSD for games only): 250GB...check

      Internet Speed: 105Mbps DL, 20Mbps UL...check

      Internet Data Cap: None

      Installing ESO: Double-click on installer...loading reaches 100%, then nothing happens...fail

      You shouldn't be installing games on an SSD for this exact reason. SSDs are meant for performance, not storage.

      EDIT: And I should add that the performance increase you get from games on an SSD is negligible.

      Wrong and...wrong!

      My advice to you is to not offer up advice when you don't know what you are talking about.

      A lot of games will not see a discernable performance increase from being installed on an SSD, MMOs however, which access and load large amounts of data at a time do see performance gains from being installed on an SSD.

      So, you may want to do some more research and get your facts straight before offering up advice about things in which you are clearly uninformed.

      You're right. MMOs do access and load a large amounts of data at a time. Do you know when this time is? It's during the 30 second load screen before you enter the world. Not all of it, and each game is independently different on the size of the area that is preloaded, but a good bit of the zone is loaded (not rendered, but loaded) during your load screen. Using an SSD speeds this time up negligibly.

      But then again, I'm just an indie developer in my free time. What would I know about the industry standards of dynamic loading and performance optimization. I'm competing with a Googler here.

      Well, for your info I'm a mobile developer (and not just in my free time). But keep assuming that you are the only one on this planet that knows anything...if that makes you feel better.
    • MCMancub
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      MCMancub wrote: »
      MCMancub wrote: »
      MCMancub wrote: »
      The game is just slightly over 80GB, and rightly so. It's easily the best looking MMO on the market.

      Besides, in today's technological world 80GB is nothing to a lot of people. Laptops are shipping with 2-3TB standard now.

      The biggest bottleneck is honestly internet speed, and if you live in any city that's "advanced" enough to have cable (seriously, cable is on the way out thanks to Google Fiber and many still don't have cable) then it won't take any time to download.

      I have neither of those issues...

      SSD space (SSD for games only): 250GB...check

      Internet Speed: 105Mbps DL, 20Mbps UL...check

      Internet Data Cap: None

      Installing ESO: Double-click on installer...loading reaches 100%, then nothing happens...fail

      You shouldn't be installing games on an SSD for this exact reason. SSDs are meant for performance, not storage.

      EDIT: And I should add that the performance increase you get from games on an SSD is negligible.

      Wrong and...wrong!

      My advice to you is to not offer up advice when you don't know what you are talking about.

      A lot of games will not see a discernable performance increase from being installed on an SSD, MMOs however, which access and load large amounts of data at a time do see performance gains from being installed on an SSD.

      So, you may want to do some more research and get your facts straight before offering up advice about things in which you are clearly uninformed.

      You're right. MMOs do access and load a large amounts of data at a time. Do you know when this time is? It's during the 30 second load screen before you enter the world. Not all of it, and each game is independently different on the size of the area that is preloaded, but a good bit of the zone is loaded (not rendered, but loaded) during your load screen. Using an SSD speeds this time up negligibly.

      But then again, I'm just an indie developer in my free time. What would I know about the industry standards of dynamic loading and performance optimization. I'm competing with a Googler here.

      Well, for your info I'm a mobile developer (and not just in my free time). But keep assuming that you are the only one on this planet that knows anything...if that makes you feel better.

      And I'm a full time software developer who understands how operating systems work. I don't just make apps via the YouTube tutorials I've seen.
    • KryptonianJedi
      MCMancub wrote: »
      MCMancub wrote: »
      The game is just slightly over 80GB, and rightly so. It's easily the best looking MMO on the market.

      Besides, in today's technological world 80GB is nothing to a lot of people. Laptops are shipping with 2-3TB standard now.

      The biggest bottleneck is honestly internet speed, and if you live in any city that's "advanced" enough to have cable (seriously, cable is on the way out thanks to Google Fiber and many still don't have cable) then it won't take any time to download.

      I have neither of those issues...

      SSD space (SSD for games only): 250GB...check

      Internet Speed: 105Mbps DL, 20Mbps UL...check

      Internet Data Cap: None

      Installing ESO: Double-click on installer...loading reaches 100%, then nothing happens...fail

      You shouldn't be installing games on an SSD for this exact reason. SSDs are meant for performance, not storage.

      EDIT: And I should add that the performance increase you get from games on an SSD is negligible.

      The last statement is very, very wrong. HOWEVER, ESO gets almost 0 benefit from being on an SSD. Why? Most of the loading time spent in game is actually on the server end, not your machine.

      Thank you, good to know.

      Seeing as I can't get the game to install, I frankly haven't had any experience with it. :(
    • KryptonianJedi
      MCMancub wrote: »
      MCMancub wrote: »
      MCMancub wrote: »
      MCMancub wrote: »
      The game is just slightly over 80GB, and rightly so. It's easily the best looking MMO on the market.

      Besides, in today's technological world 80GB is nothing to a lot of people. Laptops are shipping with 2-3TB standard now.

      The biggest bottleneck is honestly internet speed, and if you live in any city that's "advanced" enough to have cable (seriously, cable is on the way out thanks to Google Fiber and many still don't have cable) then it won't take any time to download.

      I have neither of those issues...

      SSD space (SSD for games only): 250GB...check

      Internet Speed: 105Mbps DL, 20Mbps UL...check

      Internet Data Cap: None

      Installing ESO: Double-click on installer...loading reaches 100%, then nothing happens...fail

      You shouldn't be installing games on an SSD for this exact reason. SSDs are meant for performance, not storage.

      EDIT: And I should add that the performance increase you get from games on an SSD is negligible.

      Wrong and...wrong!

      My advice to you is to not offer up advice when you don't know what you are talking about.

      A lot of games will not see a discernable performance increase from being installed on an SSD, MMOs however, which access and load large amounts of data at a time do see performance gains from being installed on an SSD.

      So, you may want to do some more research and get your facts straight before offering up advice about things in which you are clearly uninformed.

      You're right. MMOs do access and load a large amounts of data at a time. Do you know when this time is? It's during the 30 second load screen before you enter the world. Not all of it, and each game is independently different on the size of the area that is preloaded, but a good bit of the zone is loaded (not rendered, but loaded) during your load screen. Using an SSD speeds this time up negligibly.

      But then again, I'm just an indie developer in my free time. What would I know about the industry standards of dynamic loading and performance optimization. I'm competing with a Googler here.

      Well, for your info I'm a mobile developer (and not just in my free time). But keep assuming that you are the only one on this planet that knows anything...if that makes you feel better.

      And I'm a full time software developer who understands how operating systems work. I don't just make apps via the YouTube tutorials I've seen.

      Ha, Youtube tutorials, that's a good one. Okay, well it's obvious that I can't compete with Captain Know-It-All here who knows everything and assumes everyone else knows nothing.

      Have a wonderful time living in your delusional little world of utter ignorance...after all, as they say, ignorance is bliss!

      p.s. Funny how you went from part time indie dev to full-time software dev in the span of 1 post
      Edited by KryptonianJedi on April 9, 2015 3:59PM
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