Returning player. Whats changed in the world of ESO? Convince me this is worth it.
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Requiemslove✭✭✭...
Looking back on this thread after ZOS done away with the subscription model is a strange feeling. In 2014 I wanted more than anything to get behind this MMO and the frustrations voiced in this thread...well they make me cringe now looking back. But at the time when my first sub ended I had felt aggrieved. I realise now looking back at it...that was naïve. Anyhow, to set this record straight my grievance was because I had felt slighted. Not because I couldn't play ESO without a sub, because I had felt my subscription to their game meant so little, as did everyone's. [to my mind]
Their choice to go B2P only vindicates this. What did the subscriptions achieve in the end? Quick capital so ZOS could ground the game into place. Improve stability, improve speed? Well the music still cuts out in the loading screens and it still takes a day and an age to load into the game world so its not that. The combat feels less chunky, ok yes it does, the animations are a bit better, the game world itself seems maybe a bit sharper. But mostly I feel the subscriptions were quick capital.
In 2014 I got behind the subscription model, not because I wanted to but because I felt it was something ESO would need, but a year in and that's gone and the game still has issues, people complain about balancing issues and many other issues. Music cuts out in the loading screen when loading into the game and that itself takes a ridiculous amount of time. And on June 9th comes their long overdue release to consoles...I don't see console gamers being impressed if it takes you 10 minutes and MORE to get into the game.
Man, I know this sounds like a rant but I really want this to succeed. And maybe it will, maybe its not for me, maybe the problem is me...but then again this game will never be right until they make it feel right. So there is just one thing left to do. Wait. Wait until this releases on the consoles. Get it on console, see if its better, different, feels right. And that's when I will know for sure. [at least for myself]0 -
pugyourself✭✭✭✭ThatHappyCat wrote: »Saw wall of text, left thread.
Thank you. I can't stop laughing.1 -
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✭It's free. Update, log in, find out for your self, and form your own opinion like an adult....I'm not prejudiced; I hate everyone equally !0 -
Hostyle✭Requiemslove wrote: »This thread has gone south. First of all, in no way do I see myself as special, and I have no feelings of "entitlement" Second, I know how subscriptions work, I just feel it is against any MMO games developers best interests to employ an auto cancel system for late subscriptions. Call me crazy, but I would much rather allow a small amount of leeway, and just have a subscription method that automatically adds on the missed currency. As for people saying my small change, if gone, wont be missed, no, probably not yet Tesco said it best. EVERY LITTLE HELPS. Is it really ENTITLEMENT, to want to continue being a little bit that helps, even if it is only very very miniscule. Is it entitlement to WANT TO CONTINUE PAYING A SUB EVEN WHEN A BIT LATE? People here are complaining that I sounded Bratty. You don't get it, I suppose. I have complained because I WANTED TO CONTINUE GIVING ZOS MONEY. I couldn't do that and felt slighted when, without any prior warning my previous subscription was ended just like that, simply because I wanted to continue supporting this game.
All you people against me, are having a go at me for really wanting to help support this game. What planet are you on? I get that maybe I should have been a bit more rational and not gone off the hinge about the cancellation of my subscription, but you're really going to have a go at me for showing dedication, and wanting my old sub to continue, despite barely playing, and willing to foot the missed days...more than willing. Madness. In no way would I ever want to have "free days" unless offered to all, by ZOS, and neither do I ever see myself as deserving of special treatment. I just don't like the auto cancellation method ZOS employs BECAUSE THEY WILL LOOSE REVENUE FROM IT. Frankly more flexibility would suit them better.
As for anyone who said I came here begging for others to convince me. NO, that is wrong. I threw a gauntlet down, demanding for people to TRY. Just like I am demanding for ZOS to explain WHY they are throwing revenue away. They do not have to. Its simply a lazy system they use. As for this thread...well, before, when things were hunky dory, maybe I stayed blind to the horrible amount of cynicism and intolerance towards ANYTHING that does not fit into some of you individuals "Utopias" That you hide it with the tag "being a brat" speaks volumes. Its even blindingly obvious some of you would LIKE to force others away. Now I cant not promise I wont stick around simply to annoy said individuals and get up your shirts.
Don't take what these butthurt fanboys say. The problem here is they have nothing positive they can say about the game to entice anyone into coming back to this game. Pure fustration.0 -
Anoteros✭✭✭✭Requiemslove wrote: »Hi folks. So, yea, that is a strong opening title, I guess. I feel it justified. I had a subscription for ESO for nearly 6 months. I began playing the game on the 5th of April, and my subscription was cancelled on ZOS end, after I missed my October payment, by not even a week. [and had they left it I WOULD HAVE PAID IT, AND THE ACRUED INTEREST] After that, having felt as a little person trampled in the dirt, by the company that make this game, I made the decision to give it a break, and did not renew my subscription 5 days later. [as I could have done]
This, being a subscription where I spent more time on the forums, hoping to support future content, waiting patiently for them to improve things, for them to make things better, and to fix issues, for them to make this the game I thought it would be when I got it. And that, is what hurt most about their treatment and attitude, that they don't value those who actually give a damn about their product, as opposed to many who play some MMOs. [and I am sure any real games lover knows the type I refer to]
That they would treat a subscriber, who would probably not play for more than 5 hours a week [if that] yet STILL choose willingly to pay the subscription in the manner they did, is what made me stop. Is what kept me away. So this is why I ask the question, and I want answers if possible from the ESO forum community AND forum staff. Convince me, truly convince me, is this game worth it? Is it worth it now to play, is it even beginning to shape up to the POSSIBILITY of the game I [and most who love ES] imagined it would be. And if not the game [and its not the end of the world, I can wait] is the whole thing worth my time? Are ZOS beginning to learn how to value those who value their product? Is everything here worth it?
I am aware there are some who may take this the wrong way, see it through the wrong lens, who will feel I am being unjustified. And to those I say, OK, you are welcome to what you think, I will not stop you or challenge you for saying anything, or calling any names or words, or expressing what you think about this in any way. But for the record this is serious. Not play. This is a genuine heartfelt cry out to this world I planned to invest a lot of time, patience and [for ZOS I guess most important] money on. I simply want to know, as one who feels distraught and hurt. Is this worth coming back to?
Nothing.
It's the same stagnant *** only with less xp gained from mobs.
Still no ui improvements, still no basic mmorpg features everyone has begged for, still no end game, combat is still as janky and unresponsive as ever and to top it off we've gone cash shop.
Oh yeah and there's a half assed justice system thrown in somewhere.Edited by Anoteros on April 9, 2015 3:46AM0 -
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Keep hoping.Soon™
- Imperial City
- Justice System
- Champion System
- Provisioning Revamp
Maybe one day
- Thieves Guild
- Dark Brotherhood
- Spellcrafting
- Murkmire
- Wrothgar
I think everyone, including Frank Underwood, is waiting for these things to become a reality before they devote their precious time to this game.
I will add.. spell crafting feels closer.. because they have revamped some of the lower level open world dungeon spaces with spots that HAVE to be for the spell crafting things they described. Prov revamp may make update 6, according to ESO LIVE, last week, barring complications. They are making the modifications to the XP for vets to do Champ System.
Brace yourself for incoming content designer resignation soon after console drop.
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Leeric✭✭✭✭Ill let you guys on a little secret. Anytime someone uses the words, "Convince Me" they have already made up their mind, and nothing anyone says, will convince them otherwise. Its a bait so they can vent passive aggressively without seeming like they are doing so. Just thought I share that.
Convince me.. oh.. wait..
nooooooo!
How DARE you SIR! And who necro'd this thread lol0 -
Requiemslove✭✭✭I wish people would not quote my old comments in this thread as those are redundant. My comment on the 9th was a catch up on where the game has gone since my second sub ended in December, and how I feel about it. Nothing more.0
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Convince yourself.....either you want to play or you don't. make up your own mind0