RIP Chillrend

WebBull · April 2015

technohic wrote: »

They just moved yesterday.
Yesterday was the first day that I have been mostly lag free in Thorn all week.

Have fun Chillrend.

Well Thorn had terrible lag last night. At least from 7pm-10pm PST. But of course the lag only occurred when fighting the movie star and his cronies. Never against AD.

deleted221205-002626 · April 2015

during peak hours its the entire server that's lagging.. that includes every campaign and all pve zones as well all at the same time..

Jauriel · April 2015

Sphinx2318 wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

Sphinx2318 wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

Sphinx2318 wrote: »

RUN RUN all you want to.......The guild that you refuse to call out will follow you because all they want to do is fight top talent. You're not getting away from it. Period.

And your claim is the top talent is in Chill?

Decibel and Alacrity are AD top talent yes... MBF is DC's best

mad respect for MBF but they're not just in Chill.

i know that MBF homes Thorn (where i just came from) but if there is a chance that 3 of the best enemy guilds in ESO NA are in one campaign -- at one time.......that's where the good EP guilds are gonna want to be. my only point.

And my intel is that at least one, If not two very good ep guilds are rerolling DC and are already vr rank and have a whole nother forum where they talk about why they are defecting.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Trolling & Baiting]

s7732425ub17_ESO · April 2015

So instead of running around and dominating the map, you now have competition that can kill you.

Personally, I think the lag is caused by the many dead AD and DC bodies that litter the map. There's never any lag when you guys aren't dieing.

Leovolao · April 2015

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

So instead of running around and dominating the map, you now have competition that can kill you.

Personally, I think the lag is caused by the many dead AD and DC bodies that litter the map. There's never any lag when you guys aren't dieing.

Naaa 10 dead bodies cant cause lag, might just be the dozens of people you guys bring to kill a couple.

Huntler · April 2015

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

So instead of running around and dominating the map, you now have competition that can kill you.

Personally, I think the lag is caused by the many dead AD and DC bodies that litter the map. There's never any lag when you guys aren't dieing.

You didn't know this because you were on Thorn, but Chill regularly locked during primetime before yesterday's lag fest. There was no one side domination (expect for perhaps the blue zerg night capping occasionally), otherwise the map was constantly flipping, changing, with good fights, and minimal lag.

And its cute pumpkin that you think you're competition

and if by competition you mean bring far more people to overwhelm the opposition then i guess you're right

derpsticks · April 2015

Gorthax wrote: »

derpsticks wrote: »

Yup, I'm consider a switch to somewhere else. Over the last week the lag has gotten worse and worse and tonight the rate at which ep took emp sicked me.

YAY ITS DERPSTICKS good fight last night :P (Xahtrog)

Good fight indeed, best fight I had all of last night. Hope to see you out there again.

frozywozy · April 2015

Huntler wrote: »

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

So instead of running around and dominating the map, you now have competition that can kill you.

Personally, I think the lag is caused by the many dead AD and DC bodies that litter the map. There's never any lag when you guys aren't dieing.

You didn't know this because you were on Thorn, but Chill regularly locked during primetime before yesterday's lag fest. There was no one side domination (expect for perhaps the blue zerg night capping occasionally), otherwise the map was constantly flipping, changing, with good fights, and minimal lag.

And its cute pumpkin that you think you're competition and if by competition you mean bring far more people to overwhelm the opposition then i guess you're right

As I said, Chillrend has experimented high latency almost every evening for the past couple weeks. Sometimes up to 3-4k latency and that lag occured when specific guild groups of AD or DC were engaging in large numbers. There was no "minimal lag" during those periods of time as u said. It was as bad as Thornblade.

The latency comes when 3 factions are max pop or close to max pop, then an organized group engage another one and they both spam aoe abilities. Chillrend was max pop several times the past two weeks and this is due to the new gain of players and old players coming back into Cyrodiil with the B2P change of the game.

Yesterday no one was overwhelming the opposition, all 3 factions were max pop.

technohic · April 2015

WebBull wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

They just moved yesterday.
Yesterday was the first day that I have been mostly lag free in Thorn all week.

Have fun Chillrend.

Well Thorn had terrible lag last night. At least from 7pm-10pm PST. But of course the lag only occurred when fighting the movie star and his cronies. Never against AD.

Hmm I just must have missed it as I logged just after 10 eastern.

WRX · April 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

So instead of running around and dominating the map, you now have competition that can kill you.

Personally, I think the lag is caused by the many dead AD and DC bodies that litter the map. There's never any lag when you guys aren't dieing.

You didn't know this because you were on Thorn, but Chill regularly locked during primetime before yesterday's lag fest. There was no one side domination (expect for perhaps the blue zerg night capping occasionally), otherwise the map was constantly flipping, changing, with good fights, and minimal lag.

And its cute pumpkin that you think you're competition and if by competition you mean bring far more people to overwhelm the opposition then i guess you're right

As I said, Chillrend has experimented high latency almost every evening for the past couple weeks. Sometimes up to 3-4k latency and that lag occured when specific guild groups of AD or DC were engaging in large numbers. There was no "minimal lag" during those periods of time as u said. It was as bad as Thornblade.

The latency comes when 3 factions are max pop or close to max pop, then an organized group engage another one and they both spam aoe abilities. Chillrend was max pop several times the past two weeks and this is due to the new gain of players and old players coming back into Cyrodiil with the B2P change of the game.

Yesterday no one was overwhelming the opposition, all 3 factions were max pop.

You are 100% wrong. I would have one lag fight every 3-4 days, and it lasted no more than 2 minutes.

My issue with said guild is they cant not seem to operate on their own. They will take 60 organized players with them everywhere they go, this is what causes the lag. Before any of you try to dispute this, remember I know a lot of players that play with you.

I've enjoyed the outnumbered fight on chillrend, NONE of them lagged.

Anyways I knew what this guild was going to bring, perhaps I will look into going back to Thorn to fight the actually skilled red guild that I have immense respect for.

Sphinx2318 · April 2015

WRX wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

So instead of running around and dominating the map, you now have competition that can kill you.

Personally, I think the lag is caused by the many dead AD and DC bodies that litter the map. There's never any lag when you guys aren't dieing.

You didn't know this because you were on Thorn, but Chill regularly locked during primetime before yesterday's lag fest. There was no one side domination (expect for perhaps the blue zerg night capping occasionally), otherwise the map was constantly flipping, changing, with good fights, and minimal lag.

And its cute pumpkin that you think you're competition and if by competition you mean bring far more people to overwhelm the opposition then i guess you're right

As I said, Chillrend has experimented high latency almost every evening for the past couple weeks. Sometimes up to 3-4k latency and that lag occured when specific guild groups of AD or DC were engaging in large numbers. There was no "minimal lag" during those periods of time as u said. It was as bad as Thornblade.

The latency comes when 3 factions are max pop or close to max pop, then an organized group engage another one and they both spam aoe abilities. Chillrend was max pop several times the past two weeks and this is due to the new gain of players and old players coming back into Cyrodiil with the B2P change of the game.

Yesterday no one was overwhelming the opposition, all 3 factions were max pop.

You are 100% wrong. I would have one lag fight every 3-4 days, and it lasted no more than 2 minutes.

My issue with said guild is they cant not seem to operate on their own. They will take 60 organized players with them everywhere they go, this is what causes the lag. Before any of you try to dispute this, remember I know a lot of players that play with you.

I've enjoyed the outnumbered fight on chillrend, NONE of them lagged.

Anyways I knew what this guild was going to bring, perhaps I will look into going back to Thorn to fight the actually skilled red guild that I have immense respect for.

You can't tell me that you don't have ANY respect for ANYONE in said guild man. I know that is not true.

Also, I have never seen a 60 man organized raid EVER.... Let alone in said guild. I have in fact heard people complain when the group hits 24 players in size. Its just not at all true what people in this thread are saying (that said guild is solely responsible for PVP lag in any specific campaign).

It is very understandable if you want to pull your guild off of Chill..... but to shame a guild for something that is outright not true is another thing entirely. There are members in that guild that deserve AND have earned respect from all factions. Just like you and your guild have earned that respect.

Minnesinger · April 2015

Sphinx2318 wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

Sphinx2318 wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

Sphinx2318 wrote: »

RUN RUN all you want to.......The guild that you refuse to call out will follow you because all they want to do is fight top talent. You're not getting away from it. Period.

And your claim is the top talent is in Chill?

Decibel and Alacrity are AD top talent yes... MBF is DC's best

mad respect for MBF but they're not just in Chill.

i know that MBF homes Thorn (where i just came from) but if there is a chance that 3 of the best enemy guilds in ESO NA are in one campaign -- at one time.......that's where the good EP guilds are gonna want to be. my only point.

If I recall right some EP guilds have made infamous campaign switches a long time ago. They claimed they ran away due to the lag issues. Funny how the circle has become full and they come after the best guilds and bring lag. Different times different stories.

Poxheart · April 2015

WRX wrote: »

You are 100% wrong. I would have one lag fight every 3-4 days, and it lasted no more than 2 minutes.

This had been my experience on Chill as well. Last night was a completely different story and it came as no surprise when I saw the EP names in my cross hairs.

frozywozy · April 2015

WRX wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

So instead of running around and dominating the map, you now have competition that can kill you.

Personally, I think the lag is caused by the many dead AD and DC bodies that litter the map. There's never any lag when you guys aren't dieing.

You didn't know this because you were on Thorn, but Chill regularly locked during primetime before yesterday's lag fest. There was no one side domination (expect for perhaps the blue zerg night capping occasionally), otherwise the map was constantly flipping, changing, with good fights, and minimal lag.

And its cute pumpkin that you think you're competition and if by competition you mean bring far more people to overwhelm the opposition then i guess you're right

As I said, Chillrend has experimented high latency almost every evening for the past couple weeks. Sometimes up to 3-4k latency and that lag occured when specific guild groups of AD or DC were engaging in large numbers. There was no "minimal lag" during those periods of time as u said. It was as bad as Thornblade.

The latency comes when 3 factions are max pop or close to max pop, then an organized group engage another one and they both spam aoe abilities. Chillrend was max pop several times the past two weeks and this is due to the new gain of players and old players coming back into Cyrodiil with the B2P change of the game.

Yesterday no one was overwhelming the opposition, all 3 factions were max pop.

You are 100% wrong. I would have one lag fight every 3-4 days, and it lasted no more than 2 minutes.

My issue with said guild is they cant not seem to operate on their own. They will take 60 organized players with them everywhere they go, this is what causes the lag. Before any of you try to dispute this, remember I know a lot of players that play with you.

I've enjoyed the outnumbered fight on chillrend, NONE of them lagged.

Anyways I knew what this guild was going to bring, perhaps I will look into going back to Thorn to fight the actually skilled red guild that I have immense respect for.

Nothing else to be said here. It's like scientists saying that god doesn't exist and a priest saying that it does. I'm gonna start recording more often so I can bring proofs to my points.

Laggus · April 2015

technohic wrote: »

They just moved yesterday.
Yesterday was the first day that I have been mostly lag free in Thorn all week.

Have fun Chillrend.

Good riddance to them (sorry Chillrend). Thorn is indeed lag free this last day, relatively speaking.

treborrealb14_ESO · April 2015

TBH your all to blame December 27th 2014 I left Thorn as for Ebon there was nothing else to prove tbh and tbh theres several baddies there.
Moved to Chill to mess with what I have seen is a Urban blight of all factions moving in and thrashing the place. and No it never was like this 3 months back even 2 months back Zeni is more to blame then anyone as there system cant handle the amount of players that TO many seem to be fun 250 BLOB vs 250 BLOB ( and sere numbers smaller then that tbh) So waiting to see what they do to stabilize there servers overall Guess have to switch to Haderus if the influx of Lagers( over population) encroach more on the server

frozywozy · April 2015

Sphinx2318 wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

So instead of running around and dominating the map, you now have competition that can kill you.

Personally, I think the lag is caused by the many dead AD and DC bodies that litter the map. There's never any lag when you guys aren't dieing.

You didn't know this because you were on Thorn, but Chill regularly locked during primetime before yesterday's lag fest. There was no one side domination (expect for perhaps the blue zerg night capping occasionally), otherwise the map was constantly flipping, changing, with good fights, and minimal lag.

And its cute pumpkin that you think you're competition and if by competition you mean bring far more people to overwhelm the opposition then i guess you're right

As I said, Chillrend has experimented high latency almost every evening for the past couple weeks. Sometimes up to 3-4k latency and that lag occured when specific guild groups of AD or DC were engaging in large numbers. There was no "minimal lag" during those periods of time as u said. It was as bad as Thornblade.

The latency comes when 3 factions are max pop or close to max pop, then an organized group engage another one and they both spam aoe abilities. Chillrend was max pop several times the past two weeks and this is due to the new gain of players and old players coming back into Cyrodiil with the B2P change of the game.

Yesterday no one was overwhelming the opposition, all 3 factions were max pop.

You are 100% wrong. I would have one lag fight every 3-4 days, and it lasted no more than 2 minutes.

My issue with said guild is they cant not seem to operate on their own. They will take 60 organized players with them everywhere they go, this is what causes the lag. Before any of you try to dispute this, remember I know a lot of players that play with you.

I've enjoyed the outnumbered fight on chillrend, NONE of them lagged.

Anyways I knew what this guild was going to bring, perhaps I will look into going back to Thorn to fight the actually skilled red guild that I have immense respect for.

You can't tell me that you don't have ANY respect for ANYONE in said guild man. I know that is not true.

Also, I have never seen a 60 man organized raid EVER.... Let alone in said guild. I have in fact heard people complain when the group hits 24 players in size. Its just not at all true what people in this thread are saying (that said guild is solely responsible for PVP lag in any specific campaign).

It is very understandable if you want to pull your guild off of Chill..... but to shame a guild for something that is outright not true is another thing entirely. There are members in that guild that deserve AND have earned respect from all factions. Just like you and your guild have earned that respect.

Don't even try to reason with him. I was with IR for the whole evening yesterday and we were running with 15players. Most of the time we were going by ourselves without any support. Proof is, Alacrity wiped us 3times inside Bleakers guild vs guild. I'm not ashamed to mention it unlike some people with a huge pride out there. No zerg was involved, no lag was involved, just some real fights. Rest of the time when we got the emp keeps we were taking our own initiative to assault a keep without even requesting any help in the zone chat or from other guilds.

Once again, don't even try to reason with that guy, no matter what, as long as EP achieves something, he's going to blame the lag or he's going to blame that group for causing the lag.

derpsticks · April 2015

I wish there was a 2nd 14 day campaign. I think it is the perfect amount of time.

c0rp · April 2015

So Thornblade has its most lag free night in a long, long while, and Chill has the worst lag its had in a long, long while. All on the same day said guild moves from TB to CR. Interesting, to say the least.

gw2only1b14_ESO · April 2015

c0rp wrote: »

So Thornblade has its most lag free night in a long, long while, and Chill has the worst lag its had in a long, long while. All on the same day said guild moves from TB to CR. Interesting, to say the least.

@(any)Dev can we confirm pop caps on each server last evening and see if there's a correlation?

Sallington · April 2015

Frozywozy: "The lag was happening way before their arrival and it is not the fault of anyone, not even ZOS."

Some hefty lol from that statement.

Huntler · April 2015

gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »

c0rp wrote: »

So Thornblade has its most lag free night in a long, long while, and Chill has the worst lag its had in a long, long while. All on the same day said guild moves from TB to CR. Interesting, to say the least.

@(any)Dev can we confirm pop caps on each server last evening and see if there's a correlation?

This has already been discussed, Chillrend was pop capped last night like it usually is. Pop caps don't make lag, the last month chillrend gets pop capped during primetime. Its the playstyle of some groups or inevitability of massive stacking that leads to the lag. This is an exercise in futility (your question that is), but I suspect you know that already and are deflecting.

Huckdabuck · April 2015

Broken game is broken hence broken record keeps playing?

technohic · April 2015

Huntler wrote: »

gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »

c0rp wrote: »

So Thornblade has its most lag free night in a long, long while, and Chill has the worst lag its had in a long, long while. All on the same day said guild moves from TB to CR. Interesting, to say the least.

@(any)Dev can we confirm pop caps on each server last evening and see if there's a correlation?

This has already been discussed, Chillrend was pop capped last night like it usually is. Pop caps don't make lag, the last month chillrend gets pop capped during primetime. Its the playstyle of some groups or inevitability of massive stacking that leads to the lag. This is an exercise in futility (your question that is), but I suspect you know that already and are deflecting.

I know what they do (because I can see death recaps and animations as they pour over me) and I will generally have to say that it isn't their fault even if they are doing it specifically to lag the server. Low of them if they are; but the end of the day, those are effective abilities otherwise and the game needs to be able to handle it.

Huntler · April 2015

technohic wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »

c0rp wrote: »

So Thornblade has its most lag free night in a long, long while, and Chill has the worst lag its had in a long, long while. All on the same day said guild moves from TB to CR. Interesting, to say the least.

@(any)Dev can we confirm pop caps on each server last evening and see if there's a correlation?

This has already been discussed, Chillrend was pop capped last night like it usually is. Pop caps don't make lag, the last month chillrend gets pop capped during primetime. Its the playstyle of some groups or inevitability of massive stacking that leads to the lag. This is an exercise in futility (your question that is), but I suspect you know that already and are deflecting.

I know what they do (because I can see death recaps and animations as they pour over me) and I will generally have to say that it isn't their fault even if they are doing it specifically to lag the server. Low of them if they are; but the end of the day, those are effective abilities otherwise and the game needs to be able to handle it.

I know, I find it unlikely that its something they do on purpose, it is their playstyle they follow to succeed, whatever works and nothing more. I am lamenting the fact that in an attempt to get away from it because it ruins my experience as a player (a workaround lets say to dealing with that style coupled with a poor product that can't handle it) is basically gone. We as players already know this problem exists, we can push all we want on ZOS about it, but its still not fixed and the only way to deal with it is trying to avoid/work around it. I thought I was free from it this past month, I've been having a ton of fun (barring my thoughts on the siege changes which were both good and bad for the game imo), but now its back to this in the blink of an eye.

Fruitdog · April 2015

derpsticks wrote: »

I wish there was a 2nd 14 day campaign. I think it is the perfect amount of time.

are the rewards the same as the 30 day campaigns?

technohic · April 2015

Huntler wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »

c0rp wrote: »

So Thornblade has its most lag free night in a long, long while, and Chill has the worst lag its had in a long, long while. All on the same day said guild moves from TB to CR. Interesting, to say the least.

@(any)Dev can we confirm pop caps on each server last evening and see if there's a correlation?

This has already been discussed, Chillrend was pop capped last night like it usually is. Pop caps don't make lag, the last month chillrend gets pop capped during primetime. Its the playstyle of some groups or inevitability of massive stacking that leads to the lag. This is an exercise in futility (your question that is), but I suspect you know that already and are deflecting.

I know what they do (because I can see death recaps and animations as they pour over me) and I will generally have to say that it isn't their fault even if they are doing it specifically to lag the server. Low of them if they are; but the end of the day, those are effective abilities otherwise and the game needs to be able to handle it.

I know, I find it unlikely that its something they do on purpose, it is their playstyle they follow to succeed, whatever works and nothing more. I am lamenting the fact that in an attempt to get away from it because it ruins my experience as a player (a workaround lets say to dealing with that style coupled with a poor product that can't handle it) is basically gone. We as players already know this problem exists, we can push all we want on ZOS about it, but its still not fixed and the only way to deal with it is trying to avoid/work around it. I thought I was free from it this past month, I've been having a ton of fun (barring my thoughts on the siege changes which were both good and bad for the game imo), but now its back to this in the blink of an eye.

Completely agree. On the siege as well.

derpsticks · April 2015

Fruitdog wrote: »

derpsticks wrote: »

I wish there was a 2nd 14 day campaign. I think it is the perfect amount of time.

are the rewards the same as the 30 day campaigns?

I thing the gold rewards are greater on 30 day campaigns. Last chillrend campaign I was rewarded with a legendary masters greatsword with sharpened trait and a legendary pair of boots that I can't remember the set.

WRX · April 2015

WRX wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

So instead of running around and dominating the map, you now have competition that can kill you.

Personally, I think the lag is caused by the many dead AD and DC bodies that litter the map. There's never any lag when you guys aren't dieing.

You didn't know this because you were on Thorn, but Chill regularly locked during primetime before yesterday's lag fest. There was no one side domination (expect for perhaps the blue zerg night capping occasionally), otherwise the map was constantly flipping, changing, with good fights, and minimal lag.

And its cute pumpkin that you think you're competition and if by competition you mean bring far more people to overwhelm the opposition then i guess you're right

As I said, Chillrend has experimented high latency almost every evening for the past couple weeks. Sometimes up to 3-4k latency and that lag occured when specific guild groups of AD or DC were engaging in large numbers. There was no "minimal lag" during those periods of time as u said. It was as bad as Thornblade.

The latency comes when 3 factions are max pop or close to max pop, then an organized group engage another one and they both spam aoe abilities. Chillrend was max pop several times the past two weeks and this is due to the new gain of players and old players coming back into Cyrodiil with the B2P change of the game.

Yesterday no one was overwhelming the opposition, all 3 factions were max pop.

You are 100% wrong. I would have one lag fight every 3-4 days, and it lasted no more than 2 minutes.

My issue with said guild is they cant not seem to operate on their own. They will take 60 organized players with them everywhere they go, this is what causes the lag. Before any of you try to dispute this, remember I know a lot of players that play with you.

I've enjoyed the outnumbered fight on chillrend, NONE of them lagged.

Anyways I knew what this guild was going to bring, perhaps I will look into going back to Thorn to fight the actually skilled red guild that I have immense respect for.

Sphinx2318 wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

So instead of running around and dominating the map, you now have competition that can kill you.

Personally, I think the lag is caused by the many dead AD and DC bodies that litter the map. There's never any lag when you guys aren't dieing.

You didn't know this because you were on Thorn, but Chill regularly locked during primetime before yesterday's lag fest. There was no one side domination (expect for perhaps the blue zerg night capping occasionally), otherwise the map was constantly flipping, changing, with good fights, and minimal lag.

And its cute pumpkin that you think you're competition and if by competition you mean bring far more people to overwhelm the opposition then i guess you're right

As I said, Chillrend has experimented high latency almost every evening for the past couple weeks. Sometimes up to 3-4k latency and that lag occured when specific guild groups of AD or DC were engaging in large numbers. There was no "minimal lag" during those periods of time as u said. It was as bad as Thornblade.

The latency comes when 3 factions are max pop or close to max pop, then an organized group engage another one and they both spam aoe abilities. Chillrend was max pop several times the past two weeks and this is due to the new gain of players and old players coming back into Cyrodiil with the B2P change of the game.

Yesterday no one was overwhelming the opposition, all 3 factions were max pop.

You are 100% wrong. I would have one lag fight every 3-4 days, and it lasted no more than 2 minutes.

My issue with said guild is they cant not seem to operate on their own. They will take 60 organized players with them everywhere they go, this is what causes the lag. Before any of you try to dispute this, remember I know a lot of players that play with you.

I've enjoyed the outnumbered fight on chillrend, NONE of them lagged.

Anyways I knew what this guild was going to bring, perhaps I will look into going back to Thorn to fight the actually skilled red guild that I have immense respect for.

You can't tell me that you don't have ANY respect for ANYONE in said guild man. I know that is not true.

Also, I have never seen a 60 man organized raid EVER.... Let alone in said guild. I have in fact heard people complain when the group hits 24 players in size. Its just not at all true what people in this thread are saying (that said guild is solely responsible for PVP lag in any specific campaign).

It is very understandable if you want to pull your guild off of Chill..... but to shame a guild for something that is outright not true is another thing entirely. There are members in that guild that deserve AND have earned respect from all factions. Just like you and your guild have earned that respect.

See that's where you are wrong, I do have respect for players in that guild. I tried to whisper Oniric to congrats him on his emp, but it didnt go through for whatever reason.

But I also have members in that guild whisper me hate tells saying they hope my mom dies in a car crash so he can *** on her grave... No lie lol.

As a whole, I have found that guild brings a lot of lag with them, and EP players say its because they always try and bring other raids with them (obviously they aren't running 60 people lol, at that point Id just applaud them). As huntler said, its simply their playstyle. Game cant handle it. When the EP guilds on Thorn are glad they moved campaigns and essentially all reputable sources have found the same thing, there is something to be said about that.

Deci wasn't on last night to experience it, but I heard all about the lag. We will just have to see if anything changes.

WRX · April 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

Sphinx2318 wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

So instead of running around and dominating the map, you now have competition that can kill you.

Personally, I think the lag is caused by the many dead AD and DC bodies that litter the map. There's never any lag when you guys aren't dieing.

You didn't know this because you were on Thorn, but Chill regularly locked during primetime before yesterday's lag fest. There was no one side domination (expect for perhaps the blue zerg night capping occasionally), otherwise the map was constantly flipping, changing, with good fights, and minimal lag.

And its cute pumpkin that you think you're competition and if by competition you mean bring far more people to overwhelm the opposition then i guess you're right

As I said, Chillrend has experimented high latency almost every evening for the past couple weeks. Sometimes up to 3-4k latency and that lag occured when specific guild groups of AD or DC were engaging in large numbers. There was no "minimal lag" during those periods of time as u said. It was as bad as Thornblade.

The latency comes when 3 factions are max pop or close to max pop, then an organized group engage another one and they both spam aoe abilities. Chillrend was max pop several times the past two weeks and this is due to the new gain of players and old players coming back into Cyrodiil with the B2P change of the game.

Yesterday no one was overwhelming the opposition, all 3 factions were max pop.

You are 100% wrong. I would have one lag fight every 3-4 days, and it lasted no more than 2 minutes.

My issue with said guild is they cant not seem to operate on their own. They will take 60 organized players with them everywhere they go, this is what causes the lag. Before any of you try to dispute this, remember I know a lot of players that play with you.

I've enjoyed the outnumbered fight on chillrend, NONE of them lagged.

Anyways I knew what this guild was going to bring, perhaps I will look into going back to Thorn to fight the actually skilled red guild that I have immense respect for.

You can't tell me that you don't have ANY respect for ANYONE in said guild man. I know that is not true.

Also, I have never seen a 60 man organized raid EVER.... Let alone in said guild. I have in fact heard people complain when the group hits 24 players in size. Its just not at all true what people in this thread are saying (that said guild is solely responsible for PVP lag in any specific campaign).

It is very understandable if you want to pull your guild off of Chill..... but to shame a guild for something that is outright not true is another thing entirely. There are members in that guild that deserve AND have earned respect from all factions. Just like you and your guild have earned that respect.

Don't even try to reason with him. I was with IR for the whole evening yesterday and we were running with 15players. Most of the time we were going by ourselves without any support. Proof is, Alacrity wiped us 3times inside Bleakers guild vs guild. I'm not ashamed to mention it unlike some people with a huge pride out there. No zerg was involved, no lag was involved, just some real fights. Rest of the time when we got the emp keeps we were taking our own initiative to assault a keep without even requesting any help in the zone chat or from other guilds.

Once again, don't even try to reason with that guy, no matter what, as long as EP achieves something, he's going to blame the lag or he's going to blame that group for causing the lag.

And I never blamed lag for the reason EP succeeds. You have no clue what you are talking about to be completely honest.

Go through my posts and try and find any post where I'm being unreasonable about player actions or where I say "Well they win because of lag". Its never happened.

To less ignorant players, feel free to discuss things with me and maybe we can share info that will help each others opinions.