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Those with Senche: Is she slightly too small?
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Tapio75✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes , wee bit larger please.We could argue if she is Senche or not BUT..
Facts are that they told we gonna get special Senche mount, it is also called Senche,.. Letter they sent also tells us it is Senche we get.. Not a Tiger.. Is there even tigers in TES?
Anyway, Loremaster telling its not a Senche when they tell me i am gonna get special Senche and all the above added to that, she is true Senche to me.
I really think they did a fine job with this one but still would hope it be slightly bigger so that rider would not look Bigger (At least in my Khajits case). My Khajit who rides with this Senche is average sized so he is not even biggest out there.
I actually had a small sad laugh over the description saying "Bred for size.." part. Clearly the poor kitten is still growing to her size ^^
Edited by Tapio75 on March 25, 2015 5:34PM>>PC-EU Mostly PVE. Played since BETA<<1 -
Gidorick✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not too small.I'm sorry, @Tapio75 but there's no arguing about it, The Striped Senche isn't khajiit, officially. That being said, you're more than welcome to view your senche as a khajiit!
If you ever see a badly burned Redguard with dreads ride by on the Striped Senche, just know that THAT senche is just a beast.
What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
Click HERE to discuss.
Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!1 -
Obscure✭✭✭✭✭Yes , wee bit larger please.@Gidorick
Orangutans are distant relatives to Humans. Doesn't make them Human.
Senche, or Senche Raht, are however literally Khajiit. I argue both the "loremaster" and the game description are effin' wrong. I've been playing TES since Daggerfall in the 90s and read every lore book there is. NEVER ARE THE SENCHE CONSIDERED ANYTHING BUT KHAJIIT.
The loremaster can say what ever the hell he wants to say, but he'll have to forgive me when I call bull*** when his word conflicts with decades of established game lore. He better evoke a Dragon Break if I catch him in a conversation or we're going to have ourselves a misunderstanding.
...this one is done talking.0 -
BBSooner✭✭✭✭✭
✭Not too small.@Gidorick
Orangutans are distant relatives to Humans. Doesn't make them Human.
Senche, or Senche Raht, are however literally Khajiit. I argue both the "loremaster" and the game description are effin' wrong. I've been playing TES since Daggerfall in the 90s and read every lore book there is. NEVER ARE THE SENCHE CONSIDERED ANYTHING BUT KHAJIIT.
The loremaster can say what ever the hell he wants to say, but he'll have to forgive me when I call bull*** when his word conflicts with decades of established game lore. He better evoke a Dragon Break if I catch him in a conversation or we're going to have ourselves a misunderstanding.
...this one is done talking.
Because nothing in a TES game has ever conflicted with previous lore.3 -
Gidorick✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not too small.@Gidorick
Orangutans are distant relatives to Humans. Doesn't make them Human.
Senche, or Senche Raht, are however literally Khajiit. I argue both the "loremaster" and the game description are effin' wrong. I've been playing TES since Daggerfall in the 90s and read every lore book there is. NEVER ARE THE SENCHE CONSIDERED ANYTHING BUT KHAJIIT.
The loremaster can say what ever the hell he wants to say, but he'll have to forgive me when I call bull*** when his word conflicts with decades of established game lore. He better evoke a Dragon Break if I catch him in a conversation or we're going to have ourselves a misunderstanding.
...this one is done talking.
Being so well versed in Elder Scrolls lore I'm surprised you aren't aware of the following:"Its forelimbs are thick and 1.5 times longer than their hindlimbs, giving them an ape-like appearance." -Khajiit Physiology - Phases and Forms
So they would look a bit more like...
As for the naming:And just because they're named "Senche" didn't mean they're Khajiit.
On earth the animal called a Bearcat is neither a bear or a cat. The Red Panda is not a Panda. The Mountain Goat is an antelope. The Horned Toad is a lizard. (...)
Oh and the Mountain Chicken is a frog.
Just because it's name has Senche in it doesn't mean it's a Khajiit.Edited by Gidorick on March 25, 2015 7:02PMWhat ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
Click HERE to discuss.
Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!3 -
Rosveen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Not too small.
All mounts have unlimited sprint.
edit: I mean the speed while holding shift. I know some people differentiate between this and repeatedly tapping shift, but the latter is totally dependant on stamina (so the senche doesn't have it unlimited) and wouldn't be beneficial on long distances anyway.Edited by Rosveen on March 25, 2015 7:12PM0 -
Shunravi✭✭✭✭✭
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^@Gidorick
Orangutans are distant relatives to Humans. Doesn't make them Human.
Senche, or Senche Raht, are however literally Khajiit. I argue both the "loremaster" and the game description are effin' wrong. I've been playing TES since Daggerfall in the 90s and read every lore book there is. NEVER ARE THE SENCHE CONSIDERED ANYTHING BUT KHAJIIT.
The loremaster can say what ever the hell he wants to say, but he'll have to forgive me when I call bull*** when his word conflicts with decades of established game lore. He better evoke a Dragon Break if I catch him in a conversation or we're going to have ourselves a misunderstanding.
...this one is done talking.
Being so well versed in Elder Scrolls lore I'm surprised you aren't aware of the following:"Its forelimbs are thick and 1.5 times longer than their hindlimbs, giving them an ape-like appearance." -Khajiit Physiology - Phases and Forms
So they would look a bit more like...
I mean, seriously.All of you are arguing so vehemently about it, but the only thing similar to lore is the name.
As for the name, Europeans called Native Americans 'Indians.' They aren't from India, but that's what they were called. Now that term is no longer as acceptable because, guess what, things like names change over time. Just ask Istanbul/Constantinople.
We don't know what it means as of yet. But even then, misconceptions of the name could be easily corrected over time. Just like the term 'Indian'.
Edited by Shunravi on March 25, 2015 7:10PMThis one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!4 -
Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I wanted to ride it like He-Man, but instead I ride it like a horse jocky when it sprints. The size might improve that so that I can haz the power.Retired.
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Obscure✭✭✭✭✭Yes , wee bit larger please.@Gidorick
What makes you think i wasnt aware of the physiological lack of similarity to the lore? Also how that is relevant. Khajiit is Khajiit, be they Senche, Suthay, Ohmes, Alphiq, or any of the many breeds.
Senche are huge, and Senche Raht are supposed to be twice the height of an Altmer. ESO's representation of Senche is plain wrong.
Don't get me wrong, they look cool, and they're really well done. But that's not an effin' Senche.
I need a Dragon Break to explain all the stuff that's just plain wrong in ESO... EX: why the hell is Cyrodiil not a jungle?! I know, I know, Oblivion fan service. But at least give me a Dragon Broke Easter egg somewhere!0 -
Gidorick✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not too small.
^@Gidorick
Orangutans are distant relatives to Humans. Doesn't make them Human.
Senche, or Senche Raht, are however literally Khajiit. I argue both the "loremaster" and the game description are effin' wrong. I've been playing TES since Daggerfall in the 90s and read every lore book there is. NEVER ARE THE SENCHE CONSIDERED ANYTHING BUT KHAJIIT.
The loremaster can say what ever the hell he wants to say, but he'll have to forgive me when I call bull*** when his word conflicts with decades of established game lore. He better evoke a Dragon Break if I catch him in a conversation or we're going to have ourselves a misunderstanding.
...this one is done talking.
Being so well versed in Elder Scrolls lore I'm surprised you aren't aware of the following:"Its forelimbs are thick and 1.5 times longer than their hindlimbs, giving them an ape-like appearance." -Khajiit Physiology - Phases and Forms
So they would look a bit more like...
I mean, seriously.All of you are arguing so vehemently about it, but the only thing similar to lore is the name.
As for the name, Europeans called Native Americans 'Indians.' They aren't from India, but that's what they were called. Now that term is no longer as acceptable because, guess what, things like names change over time. Just ask Istanbul/Constantinople.
We don't know what it means as of yet. But even then, misconceptions of the name could be easily corrected over time. Just like the term 'Indian'.
Lol. You're right @Shunravi. It's silly to argue about it... but it's entertaining to argue over asinine facts about fictional cat breeds on the Internet!
What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
Click HERE to discuss.
Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!0 -
Obscure✭✭✭✭✭Yes , wee bit larger please.
^@Gidorick
Orangutans are distant relatives to Humans. Doesn't make them Human.
Senche, or Senche Raht, are however literally Khajiit. I argue both the "loremaster" and the game description are effin' wrong. I've been playing TES since Daggerfall in the 90s and read every lore book there is. NEVER ARE THE SENCHE CONSIDERED ANYTHING BUT KHAJIIT.
The loremaster can say what ever the hell he wants to say, but he'll have to forgive me when I call bull*** when his word conflicts with decades of established game lore. He better evoke a Dragon Break if I catch him in a conversation or we're going to have ourselves a misunderstanding.
...this one is done talking.
Being so well versed in Elder Scrolls lore I'm surprised you aren't aware of the following:"Its forelimbs are thick and 1.5 times longer than their hindlimbs, giving them an ape-like appearance." -Khajiit Physiology - Phases and Forms
So they would look a bit more like...
I mean, seriously.All of you are arguing so vehemently about it, but the only thing similar to lore is the name.
As for the name, Europeans called Native Americans 'Indians.' They aren't from India, but that's what they were called. Now that term is no longer as acceptable because, guess what, things like names change over time. Just ask Istanbul/Constantinople.
We don't know what it means as of yet. But even then, misconceptions of the name could be easily corrected over time. Just like the term 'Indian'.
Lol. You're right @Shunravi. It's silly to argue about it... but it's entertaining to argue over asinine facts about fictional cat breeds on the Internet!
Is not the Internet intended for sex tapes and cat memes?
Edited by Obscure on March 25, 2015 7:27PM2 -
Gidorick✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not too small.@Gidorick
What makes you think i wasnt aware of the physiological lack of similarity to the lore? Also how that is relevant. Khajiit is Khajiit, be they Senche, Suthay, Ohmes, Alphiq, or any of the many breeds.
Senche are huge, and Senche Raht are supposed to be twice the height of an Altmer. ESO's representation of Senche is plain wrong.
Don't get me wrong, they look cool, and they're really well done. But that's not an effin' Senche.
I need a Dragon Break to explain all the stuff that's just plain wrong in ESO... EX: why the hell is Cyrodiil not a jungle?! I know, I know, Oblivion fan service. But at least give me a Dragon Broke Easter egg somewhere!
I assumed you didn't know because you were arguing about how Senche are represented in lore. I find it interesting that you argue that The ESO Game, Lore Master Lawrence Schick, AND established lore are all wrong... what would it take for you to accept that these Senche mounts are not Khajiit?
THIS is why I implored ZOS to name the mount Striped Senche-Tiger. I wish they had.
What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
Click HERE to discuss.
Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!0 -
Folkb✭✭✭✭✭Yes , wee bit larger please.
^@Gidorick
Orangutans are distant relatives to Humans. Doesn't make them Human.
Senche, or Senche Raht, are however literally Khajiit. I argue both the "loremaster" and the game description are effin' wrong. I've been playing TES since Daggerfall in the 90s and read every lore book there is. NEVER ARE THE SENCHE CONSIDERED ANYTHING BUT KHAJIIT.
The loremaster can say what ever the hell he wants to say, but he'll have to forgive me when I call bull*** when his word conflicts with decades of established game lore. He better evoke a Dragon Break if I catch him in a conversation or we're going to have ourselves a misunderstanding.
...this one is done talking.
Being so well versed in Elder Scrolls lore I'm surprised you aren't aware of the following:"Its forelimbs are thick and 1.5 times longer than their hindlimbs, giving them an ape-like appearance." -Khajiit Physiology - Phases and Forms
So they would look a bit more like...
I mean, seriously.All of you are arguing so vehemently about it, but the only thing similar to lore is the name.
As for the name, Europeans called Native Americans 'Indians.' They aren't from India, but that's what they were called. Now that term is no longer as acceptable because, guess what, things like names change over time. Just ask Istanbul/Constantinople.
We don't know what it means as of yet. But even then, misconceptions of the name could be easily corrected over time. Just like the term 'Indian'.
Lol. You're right @Shunravi. It's silly to argue about it... but it's entertaining to argue over asinine facts about fictional cat breeds on the Internet!
Is not the Internet intended for sex tapes and cat memes?
lol! awe
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Thymos✭✭✭✭✭Not too small.The only issue I have is when my character rides the Senche too far forward and it looks like she is needing a smoke after riding on the saddle horn.The Older Gamers Recruitment Thread
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Obscure✭✭✭✭✭Yes , wee bit larger please.@Gidorick
What makes you think i wasnt aware of the physiological lack of similarity to the lore? Also how that is relevant. Khajiit is Khajiit, be they Senche, Suthay, Ohmes, Alphiq, or any of the many breeds.
Senche are huge, and Senche Raht are supposed to be twice the height of an Altmer. ESO's representation of Senche is plain wrong.
Don't get me wrong, they look cool, and they're really well done. But that's not an effin' Senche.
I need a Dragon Break to explain all the stuff that's just plain wrong in ESO... EX: why the hell is Cyrodiil not a jungle?! I know, I know, Oblivion fan service. But at least give me a Dragon Broke Easter egg somewhere!
I assumed you didn't know because you were arguing about how Senche are represented in lore. I find it interesting that you argue that The ESO Game, Lore Master Lawrence Schick, AND established lore are all wrong... what would it take for you to accept that these Senche mounts are not Khajiit?
THIS is why I implored ZOS to name the mount Striped Senche-Tiger. I wish they had.
I think you may misunderstand me is all. Let me clarify. Senche are Khajiit. The representations of them in ESO is not accurate to Senche description. These really nifty, super cool, well done assets, are simply not Senche.
Calling them Senche-Tigers and stating they're actually Senche that have long crossbred with tigers is literally all that it would take for me to accept. But to call them Senche is to call them Khajiit, which is far from accurate in their depiction in ESO.Edited by Obscure on March 25, 2015 7:41PM0 -
Cuyler✭✭✭✭✭
✭Depends on who you ask....
Male Khajiits will say it's fine as is or it's all in how you ride it.
Female Khajiits will tell you it's not big enough and could be bigger......
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Obscure✭✭✭✭✭Yes , wee bit larger please.Depends on who you ask....
Male Khajiits will say it's fine as is or it's all in how you ride it.
Female Khajiits will tell you it's not big enough and could be bigger......
Dunmer will tell you it's just a slight difference in aiming the whip, and it's all in the wrist. 2 -
dafox187✭✭✭Not too small.i dont think its to small its not a horse think of the ones we all killed around repers march now think of those with horse leges instead of tiger legs now please look up picture of kittens so you dont get nightmares
don't get mad at my spelling, autocorrect doesn't cover fantasy.
Why couldn't the Khajiit go to the party? She had to be Elsweyr.0 -
Nyghthowler✭✭✭✭✭
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^@Gidorick
Orangutans are distant relatives to Humans. Doesn't make them Human.
Senche, or Senche Raht, are however literally Khajiit. I argue both the "loremaster" and the game description are effin' wrong. I've been playing TES since Daggerfall in the 90s and read every lore book there is. NEVER ARE THE SENCHE CONSIDERED ANYTHING BUT KHAJIIT.
The loremaster can say what ever the hell he wants to say, but he'll have to forgive me when I call bull*** when his word conflicts with decades of established game lore. He better evoke a Dragon Break if I catch him in a conversation or we're going to have ourselves a misunderstanding.
...this one is done talking.
Being so well versed in Elder Scrolls lore I'm surprised you aren't aware of the following:"Its forelimbs are thick and 1.5 times longer than their hindlimbs, giving them an ape-like appearance." -Khajiit Physiology - Phases and Forms
So they would look a bit more like...
I mean, seriously.All of you are arguing so vehemently about it, but the only thing similar to lore is the name.
As for the name, Europeans called Native Americans 'Indians.' They aren't from India, but that's what they were called. Now that term is no longer as acceptable because, guess what, things like names change over time. Just ask Istanbul/Constantinople.
We don't know what it means as of yet. But even then, misconceptions of the name could be easily corrected over time. Just like the term 'Indian'.
Lol. You're right @Shunravi. It's silly to argue about it... but it's entertaining to argue over asinine facts about fictional cat breeds on the Internet!
Is not the Internet intended for sex tapes and cat memes?
LMFAO!!! Reminds me of some of the NPC Khajiit in town being accosted by the city guards... I'm not prejudiced; I hate everyone equally !0 -
dafox187✭✭✭Not too small.DaniAngione wrote: »Also, I'm glad so many people are unhappy with how it looks with their altmer, nords, and such...
Maybe this way everyone but the khajiit will stop using it
im a khajit and its my favorite
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don't get mad at my spelling, autocorrect doesn't cover fantasy.
Why couldn't the Khajiit go to the party? She had to be Elsweyr.0 -
Dekkameron✭✭✭✭✭
Thats what the original description of the Senche Tiger (what the mount is) is...Senche-Tigers are a form of Khajiit, and the largest great cats in existence.[1]
Described as monstrous cats, the senche-tiger stands as high as a large horse at the shoulder. Their forelimbs are as thick as columns and half again as long as their rears, giving them an apelike appearance. Senche-tiger coats are tawny, ribboned with stripes the color of dried blood, and their feral yellow eyes seem to promise evisceration.[2] These massive beasts are as smart as any other Khajiit, and can often be found serving as steeds for their more humanoid cousins
Quoted from: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Senche-tigerEdited by Dekkameron on March 25, 2015 8:13PM- Veteran Combat Librarian -1 -
Dekkameron✭✭✭✭✭Riding ones of those would look pretty strange i thin, so they went for more of a traditional tiger- Veteran Combat Librarian -0
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Shunravi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@Obscure, as for the whole dragonbreak thing, there is ample evidence we are currently experiencing one.
Exhibit A; I am the soul shriven who assisted in the formation of my alliance, and defeated Molag Bal. And so are you.
Exhibit B; Despite having defeated Molag Bal, dark anchors still spawn, and there is still the massive anchor over the imperial city.
Exhibit C; the entire premise of Cadwell's silver and gold suggests that time is not under control.
Exhibit D; the nature of balancing and adding and taking away content in an mmo makes for a very 'loose time' situation.
Exhibit E; the premise behind the soulburst suggests a loss of control.
Edited by Shunravi on March 25, 2015 8:22PMThis one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!2 -
Rosveen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Not too small.
They are called senche-tigers, it's literally in their description.
Calling them Senche-Tigers and stating they're actually Senche that have long crossbred with tigers is literally all that it would take for me to accept. But to call them Senche is to call them Khajiit, which is far from accurate in their depiction in ESO.@Gidorick
What makes you think i wasnt aware of the physiological lack of similarity to the lore? Also how that is relevant. Khajiit is Khajiit, be they Senche, Suthay, Ohmes, Alphiq, or any of the many breeds.
Senche are huge, and Senche Raht are supposed to be twice the height of an Altmer. ESO's representation of Senche is plain wrong.
Don't get me wrong, they look cool, and they're really well done. But that's not an effin' Senche.
I need a Dragon Break to explain all the stuff that's just plain wrong in ESO... EX: why the hell is Cyrodiil not a jungle?! I know, I know, Oblivion fan service. But at least give me a Dragon Broke Easter egg somewhere!
I assumed you didn't know because you were arguing about how Senche are represented in lore. I find it interesting that you argue that The ESO Game, Lore Master Lawrence Schick, AND established lore are all wrong... what would it take for you to accept that these Senche mounts are not Khajiit?
THIS is why I implored ZOS to name the mount Striped Senche-Tiger. I wish they had.
"A semi-domesticated version of the wild senche-tiger, this distant relative of the Khajiit has been bred for size and manageability."
Your explanation is a whole new can of worms. Not only would it be bestiality, but more interestingly, it would mean that sapient Khajiit and non-sapient animals can create offspring (presumably fertile). Would it be true for all Khajiiti furstocks? What about other races?1 -
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That is a good point. The closest thing we have to a moth priest is Varen Aquilarios (actually, isn't he essentially a moth priest now?) and he only really tells us what we need to know to take down Molag Bal. I don't fully remember, but I feel like he dropped some hints.This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!0 -
Carnagan✭✭✭Because nothing in a TES game has ever conflicted with previous lore.
Morrowind being one of the absolute worst with this.
People should remember that ZOS' loremaster is in direct contact with Bethesda's loremaster and they do talk about things like this.
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