Well it is a giant stone boulder coming at you. Im ok with the siege damage, but they could have a modifier for npcs.

Cody wrote: »

I have GOT to hop in to PVP right now and see this. My obsolete VR14 be danged:D

Siege is everywhere. If you setup siege in a field battle, be prepared to be focused down!

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

There have been other things being discussed for the guards regarding their ability ranges and upgrades. It was a known factor that the guards were going to be significantly weaker compared to the Siege damage changes going in. The guards are currently intended to be a deterrent for players without siege weaponry but if you do have a weapon, have at it.

In the overall scheme of things with the current focus on spreading people out as Paul mentioned, if more players can take resources requiring less players to do so with the aid of siege weaponry than could before, this can encourage players to do so.

All that being said, we are looking at the server performance and gameplay experience after these changes and will adjust them if needed

I think the changes are great, will take some adjusting but overall I hope it does spread people out a lot more.

Verdwhisper wrote: »

well, will this make pvp exciting? Take resources and you win! You literally need to do nothing, sneak 1 guy or 2 near every resources and capture them 2-3min before every score round. Exciting! No large scale pvp and more about pve resources or fight with no more than 10 ppl all day! And running through the map all day! No transport line for u! Or u know wht, screw the scoreboard, eventually ppl will only care about ap farming.

hmm, well if that's the way to do it, then there will be 1 or 2 guys from every alliance near every resource right? That does sound exciting, lol.

Obviously, we will need to see how this plays out... but I'm fairly optimistic about this, and here is why:

I play in the non-vet campaign which has always been relatively non-populated compared to the Vet campaigns. While some people found this to be a bad thing, it was the primary reason I've stayed in the non-vet... although zergs existed, it was perfectly possible to find meaningful smaller scale combat.

From the day this game went B2P, the non-vet campaign has been absolutely jam-packed with players, and while this is a good thing in lots of ways, it's been a shock to those of us who do NOT enjoy zerv v zerg battles. I have been trying to find ways to play meaningful PVP (i.e. still contributing to the overall "war effort") while avoiding the types of battles where 5 different people feature on my death stats (and quite honestly, if the stats listed all the players who had done damage to you in the last 10 seconds, that list could quite often feature 20+ different names).

Ganking had suddenly become my preferred style of play, but that can be kind of hit and miss in terms of action... and generally results in you getting run over by a zerg anway. These changes make defending and taking keep resources strategically important, AND not requiring you and your 75 closest friends standing next to each other to accomplish. Factions are now going to have to have small squads dedicated to defending all their resources... and small squads dedicated to taking other resources. The big zergs cans till do their thing, because it IS a very effective way of taking keeps, but this introduces meaningful small unit combat as a viable alternative playstyle.

Note: zerg combat is not something I personally enjoy, but I fully support their existence and understand that for many people, large scale combat is the whole point of PVP.

Lhorion wrote: »

2.0.1 - You can take a ressource solo because the guards are not as strong as in 1.5 (okay, I am V14, low level guys will have problems)

2.0.2 - You can take a ressource solo while shooting into the flag twice. Unfortunatey you will be oneshottet, too, if someone hits you with a siegeweapon.


Great change! Really great!

I wonder how scroll temple fights will look like. *evil smile*

Lhorion wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

Lhorion wrote: »

2.0.1 - You can take a ressource solo because the guards are not as strong as in 1.5 (okay, I am V14, low level guys will have problems)

2.0.2 - You can take a ressource solo while shooting into the flag twice. Unfortunatey you will be oneshottet, too, if someone hits you with a siegeweapon.


Great change! Really great!

I wonder how scroll temple fights will look like. *evil smile*

Not just this! New ganker style will be:

7/7 heavy armour, all things spent in life (over 40k) with the damage shield set. You wait in sneak and if there is an enemie or an enemie zerg you place a siege weapon and oneshot this enemie or this enemie zerg!

*crafts heavy armor*

Trololololo

nukeemstudiosub17_ESO wrote: »

TY Kilandros!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally someone else gets it! This is what is killing PvP! ZOS refusing to fix the problem.
If you want us to spread out not be that grouped up then why just not make cyrodill small scale instanced PvP. That is essentially how you are telling us to play. Which is the exact opposite of of what was advertised.

Fix the game. It is not our fault the game lags its you ZOS!! Its useless lighting effects, The ridiculous amount of particles that have been added that make the game lag. Do you realize the game was better BEFORE the 1.5 lighting updates? The game feels like we are back in BETA. But just keep on adding crap and saying it is our fault that it lags.

How about listening to the REAL player base not the PvWhiners about what should be done to the game.

Dude, chill out. Stop seeing the situation the other way around. ZOS ADVICED us to spread out to help the latency while THEY KEEP WORKING HARD to resolve the performance issues.

They are not blaming any of us for causing the lag, they are telling us how to help improve the performances issues. Brian posted I don't know how many times that their priority #1 at the moment is to fix the lag by optimizing the code. If you haven't read it, then you don't deserve to talk and you should definitely read more the forums before posting such useless non sense.

Weberda wrote: »

JTorus wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

.... The guards are currently intended to be a deterrent for players without siege weaponry but if you do have a weapon, have at it. ....

I may be in the minority, but I see this as a good thing.

It's on us now.

No, it's not. It's still on ZOS. I dont want to always small scale at a resource. The reason I chose ESO is the RvR aspect, faction pride and big campaigns. This is indeed going to be the death of Cyrodiil and RvR - now Call of Duty players can have their fun while the rest wait for Camelot Unchained (goolge it if you dont know).

Panda244 wrote: »

Stupid silly OP change....

And I like it.

Yeah, and of course there's all the doomsday posts out there. Last night we hardly worried about the resources. We always have some folks behind the lines watching things and they took care of matters as they arose. With all the new players coming on it was even less of a concern.

At Arrius last night:

Me: "Where's @Panda244?"
Vortex/Vjori: "He's in DSA"
Me: <facepalm> All that drama and he goes PVE'ing...$%@$## troll.

Weberda wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Stupid silly OP change....

And I like it.

Yeah, and of course there's all the doomsday posts out there. Last night we hardly worried about the resources. We always have some folks behind the lines watching things and they took care of matters as they arose. With all the new players coming on it was even less of a concern.

At Arrius last night:

Me: "Where's @Panda244?"
Vortex/Vjori: "He's in DSA"
Me: <facepalm> All that drama and he goes PVE'ing...$%@$## troll.

Some friends that came back because the game went F2P wanted me to do DSA, and I wasn't having fun with the broken TTK in Cyrodiil... @Weberda I sowwy.

Quick question... Do you get AP for "taking a resource"?

If so, this could be a great development for PVE oriented players who want to enjoy Cyrodiil.