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Exp potions
Hortator Mopa
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When you release the store can you please put cp exp potions in it.. Don't treat us like idiots.. it was the plan the whole time.. just hurry up and do it because no one is going to grind years to complete a account and we all know it will sure be a "convenience"...
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So I posted this a while ago and it was mostly sarcasm because I was angry. I knew the second I heard this game was going b2p that it was going to go p2w. This has been confirmed with this image below.
To the people who kept saying I was dumb for wanting these potions: I never did want them and I was just angry that I knew they would soon come so I used sarcasm. However I do think it is really dumb how long it takes to max out a accounts CP... The game will be long dead before someone does it (Even with non stop 50% exp pots). Bonus reply: "CP isnt meant to be completed HERP DERP"... Yea I know that's what they say... Does not mean it is good game design. I don't sit down to play chess or monopoly for it to last 10 years.. I don't want maxing a mmo to take that long either..
Anyways I am still playing the game and I hope the exp potions are really cheap but I bet they will be like $4 each or some rubbish... sooooo anyways.... was fun while it lasted and thanks consoles/cheap people who didn't want to pay sub/suits wanting to maximize profits at the cost of killing the game, you have killed a game that could of been awesome.
Edited by Hortator Mopa on March 21, 2015 3:49PM When you release the store can you please put cp exp potions in it.. Don't treat us like idiots.. it was the plan the whole time.. just hurry up and do it because no one is going to grind years to complete a account and we all know it will sure be a "convenience"...
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So I posted this a while ago and it was mostly sarcasm because I was angry. I knew the second I heard this game was going b2p that it was going to go p2w. This has been confirmed with this image below.
To the people who kept saying I was dumb for wanting these potions: I never did want them and I was just angry that I knew they would soon come so I used sarcasm. However I do think it is really dumb how long it takes to max out a accounts CP... The game will be long dead before someone does it (Even with non stop 50% exp pots). Bonus reply: "CP isnt meant to be completed HERP DERP"... Yea I know that's what they say... Does not mean it is good game design. I don't sit down to play chess or monopoly for it to last 10 years.. I don't want maxing a mmo to take that long either..
Anyways I am still playing the game and I hope the exp potions are really cheap but I bet they will be like $4 each or some rubbish... sooooo anyways.... was fun while it lasted and thanks consoles/cheap people who didn't want to pay sub/suits wanting to maximize profits at the cost of killing the game, you have killed a game that could of been awesome.
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Troneon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭If they sold exp potions in the store.
I would leave the game.
Not worth playing.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Misinformation and Conspiracy Theories]Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on March 19, 2015 5:47PMPC EU ADMaster Crafter - Anything you need!!High Elf Magicka Templar Healer/DPS/TankTrials / Dungeons / PVP / Everything13 -
Govalon✭✭✭✭If they sold exp potions in the store.
I would leave the game.
Not worth playing.
They have already said that XP potion will be in the store.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/151496/experience-boost-potion-announced-today/p1
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Troneon✭✭✭✭✭
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Source plz?
Im done if thats the case.
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It was in the latest road a head. I edited the link in my previous post a little late but here it is again:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/151496/experience-boost-potion-announced-today/p1
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2015/02/12/the-road-ahead---february
"As such, I can tell you that we'll almost certainly have experience boost potions in the store at some point, as this kind of shortcut (spending less time to gain experience) is classified as a convenience. That way, you still have the choice of purchasing them with crowns or in-game gold."
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Hortator Mopa✭✭✭✭Yea its already coming, how did anyone not see it coming AS SOON as they said it was F2P? (Don't act like P2P is much different).
They need money to stay up, the store is the money, money means things worth buying, cosmetics will do that alone? lol no, hello p2w elements.
if you think the game is not going p2w answer this, will every person subbed spend $180AUD a year on costumes and soul gems lololol...? No, they will need to release things people ACTUALLY want to buy, and continue to buy when they run out, think about it.
Simple common sense, they said they are going f2p/b2p (almost no difference)on my b'day and as soon as it happened I knew the real direction of the game instantly.Edited by Hortator Mopa on March 8, 2015 9:46AM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭They will be both store and game purchasable/findable/craftable from what I understood though.
However yes, EXP potions are coming, subs +10% EXP, Imperial Edition (marriage) +10% EXP.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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Troneon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Wow in that case im done with this game.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Misinformation and Conspiracy Theories]Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on March 19, 2015 5:47PMPC EU ADMaster Crafter - Anything you need!!High Elf Magicka Templar Healer/DPS/TankTrials / Dungeons / PVP / Everything3 -
Hortator Mopa✭✭✭✭They will be both store and game purchasable/findable/craftable from what I understood though.
However yes, EXP potions are coming, subs +10% EXP, Imperial Edition (marriage) +10% EXP.
Not in a million years will they allow you to craft exp potions lol...
Why would they make the source of the games money compete with a game currency that takes no time at all to make 1,000,000 gold + in?
Why would anyone ever spend real money lol...Edited by Hortator Mopa on March 8, 2015 9:50AM1 -
Troneon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Hortator Mopa wrote: »Wow in that case im done with this game.
Everything will revolve around microtransactions now. Thanks for posting the info. Just saved me a lot of wasted time.
Why spend 1.5-6 years getting all the cp to max your account when you can spend $xx.xx and get it in xx months! - Convenience in the future.
Yeah I hate this kind of business model because you know it will effect the game design in a negative way.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting Comments]Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on March 19, 2015 5:46PMPC EU ADMaster Crafter - Anything you need!!High Elf Magicka Templar Healer/DPS/TankTrials / Dungeons / PVP / Everything4 -
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[...]Hortator Mopa wrote: »
Yea, I will wait to see the price of the items you need to keep getting to stay top tier and if it goes over $15 a month (more then what staying member provides or someone who spends more then $15 is still even better then someone who spends $15, THEN I am gone...
$15 a month probably wont keep me top tier
someone who spends more then $15 will more then likely still own anyone who spends $15
So not holding my breath this will last long for me.
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It was in the latest road a head. I edited the link in my previous post a little late but here it is again:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/151496/experience-boost-potion-announced-today/p1
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2015/02/12/the-road-ahead---february
"As such, I can tell you that we'll almost certainly have experience boost potions in the store at some point, as this kind of shortcut (spending less time to gain experience) is classified as a convenience. That way, you still have the choice of purchasing them with crowns or in-game gold."
The "Road Ahead" article was updated. See the revision below.
Source:As such, I can tell you that we'll almost certainly have experience boost potions in the store at some point, as this kind of shortcut (spending less time to gain experience) is classified as a convenience. We're still discussing what convenience items we'll also make available for purchase in-game with gold. Nothing is defined yet, though
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2015/02/12/the-road-ahead---february
From now on I will be running WinDiff on every statement made by ZOS regarding topics that have significance to me to check for inconsistencies or undocumented alterations.
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If you noticed the xp changes last week, as in they lowered them across the board, i am guessing that this is the reason, with the 10 percent bonus for subs and then throw in xp potions you should be almost close to where we were xp wise 2 weeks ago, the ones i saw were 2hr/50 percent with a 7200 second cool down on them and they are supposed to stack with rings of mara/sub bonus
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What did they lower? XP that I've been getting has been the same as always. They also specifically stated that the 10% was a bonus to what was standard pre-1.6, not a way to "return" to those standard values.
If you noticed the xp changes last week, as in they lowered them across the board, i am guessing that this is the reason, with the 10 percent bonus for subs and then throw in xp potions you should be almost close to where we were xp wise 2 weeks ago, the ones i saw were 2hr/50 percent with a 7200 second cool down on them and they are supposed to stack with rings of mara/sub bonus
Also, is an XP potion really P2W? Just because someone is getting XP faster than you, doesn't mean they will be more powerful than you, they just cap out faster.
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If you noticed the xp changes last week, as in they lowered them across the board, i am guessing that this is the reason, with the 10 percent bonus for subs and then throw in xp potions you should be almost close to where we were xp wise 2 weeks ago, the ones i saw were 2hr/50 percent with a 7200 second cool down on them and they are supposed to stack with rings of mara/sub bonus
Also, is an XP potion really P2W? Just because someone is getting XP faster than you, doesn't mean they will be more powerful than you, they just cap out faster.
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@Enodoc
XP->CP->Power.
There is no cap in the champ system and xp bonuses apply additively pre and post lv50. Well, there is a cap (3600 points) but it's pretty far off in the distance and a lot of the passives are imbalanced in regards to DR. That cap is also adjustable to allow future progression. The xp pots are showing 50% bonus xp for 2 hours in the in-game tooltip that is floating around. Granted, that's subject to change unless we don't say anything. The original statement made by ZOS was altered to not guarantee that these will be obtainable by in-game means as opposed to their original guarantee.
My guess is this will be their money maker. It's a bummer that power is already planned to be sold on the cash shop. I guess there's an exception to the rule and xp pots are that exception. I'm sure people will disagree with me in some form but paying to get extra crit or what not is definitely p2w and a lot of those champion passives are VERY strong.
Watched a stream yesterday that exhibited it and here's the tooltip for the "XP Booster". AKA P2W in a glass. 5 -
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Xendyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm calling fake on that. I've seen people make up other stuff by manipulating item codes and linking them in chat.
I can see 10% ones or so but 50%?
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom want to weigh in on this?Edited by Xendyn on March 19, 2015 8:04PMLag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
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50%?!?!? Um, I sincerely hope that's not what it ends up being in live... I'm OK with a 10% boost, but with a 50% potion boost, stacked with the 10% boost from a Ring of Mara and the 10% boost from a subscription... Getting an extra 70% XP seems way over the top to me.Watched a stream yesterday that exhibited it and here's the tooltip for the "XP Booster". AKA P2W in a glass.
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ArconSeptim✭✭✭✭If they sold exp potions in the store.
I would leave the game.
Not worth playing.
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I would leave the game also if they start selling such things, 10% exp is fine for ESO plus but potions, no thank you, anything p2w b2w is no a big no1 -
They could make it so the XP pots don't effect the champion XP pool, effectively making them XP pots just for leveling. This makes sense to me also because once the veteran system goes away champion progression will start at lvl 50. But it's all speculation at this point. But it's a no brainier that anyone could see that this would not be the most profitable option.3 -
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What did they lower? XP that I've been getting has been the same as always. They also specifically stated that the 10% was a bonus to what was standard pre-1.6, not a way to "return" to those standard values.
If you noticed the xp changes last week, as in they lowered them across the board, i am guessing that this is the reason, with the 10 percent bonus for subs and then throw in xp potions you should be almost close to where we were xp wise 2 weeks ago, the ones i saw were 2hr/50 percent with a 7200 second cool down on them and they are supposed to stack with rings of mara/sub bonus
Also, is an XP potion really P2W? Just because someone is getting XP faster than you, doesn't mean they will be more powerful than you, they just cap out faster.
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Yes the xp was lowered by a huge margin in areas and various mobs also. No xp pot is not pay to win at al, i would bet dollars to doughnuts that the people complaining of the idea are casual players which would need it more.
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vovus69✭✭✭✭1-50 levelling is very easy nowadays. I see this useful for CP grinding. If I play 2-3 hours per day I would buy those things. Those who are grinding it now at 24/7 level those things will not help - enlightenment is for 1 CP per day with backlog up to 12 days. And it gives just 200k /CP without enl. But for the casual guys this is good thing to have
Of course it all depends on price, but if it will be ~500 crowns for the pack of 20-40 I would buy it. "If I'll need your opinion, I'll give one to you" - Rivenspire0 -
Lifsteinn✭✭✭Can you still use ring of mara?? My "partner" left long time ago, isn't this one time only?0 -
Bloodystab✭✭✭✭1-50 levelling is very easy nowadays. I see this useful for CP grinding. If I play 2-3 hours per day I would buy those things. Those who are grinding it now at 24/7 level those things will not help - enlightenment is for 1 CP per day with backlog up to 12 days. And it gives just 200k /CP without enl. But for the casual guys this is good thing to have Of course it all depends on price, but if it will be ~500 crowns for the pack of 20-40 I would buy it.
More like 200 crowns each.0
