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Explorers Pack in Crown Store - say it ain't so!
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Govalon✭✭✭✭
I have been thinking about this on the way home from work and I think I have improved your idea quite a bit.
So you would make us pay so we get to pay even more? Brilliant! I suggest you and I make an MMO together.Don't know about you guys, but I pre-ordered the game to ensure that I got my Imperial Edition on launch day; not to get advantages in-game. I'm a bit amazed that they put that on the Crown Store, but I don't really care, if it keeps the cash flowing for ZOS.
Heh... If I'm honest... I did the same.
You said that "if it keeps the cash flowing"... 100% agree and that's one of the things that baffles me, that they AREN'T ensuring a cash "flow" they are offering a one-time purchase.
I suggested that both the Imperial upgrade and the Explorer's Pack be placed behind the Subscription. This way ZOS creates ongoing revenue and a reason for players to keep their subscription/resubscribe.
Want to create an Imperial? Need a subscription.
Want to create a race outside of an alliance? Need a subscription.
Want a NEW Pledge of Mara? To buy that, you need a subscription.
Want an Imperial Horse? To buy that, you need a subscription.
Oh! and here's a monthly treasure map for you to go hunt down. Enjoy!
THIS kind of idea would "keep the cash flowing", not just make a single splash.
Oh and any player that subs for 3 months has given ZOS more money than a player that upgrades to Imperial Edition and buys the "Adventurer Pack".
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/151782/put-the-imperial-edition-and-adventurer-pack-benefits-behind-the-subscription/p1
The problem with this is most of the benefits of these upgrades are not things you need all the time. It still wouldn't provide a regular cash flow because people would subscribe when they want to create a character in a different alliance, or buy the Imperial horse or whatever and then let it lapse afterwards. Unless you're seriously suggesting that people who create a character in a different alliance should lose access to that character any time their subscription runs out.
Also, What about people who already have the explorer's pack and/or Imperial edition but don't have a subscription? Are they they exception and they get to keep the upgrades anyway, or do they now have to pay a subscription to maintain access to something that was sold to them as a one-time purchase?
But maybe the most important point is that the absence of anything that guarantees each individual player keeps paying the same amount regularly shouldn't be a problem for ZOS, unless they're completely stupid. They (or at least their accountants) should be well aware that it doesn't work that way with a b2p/cash shop model. Instead they'll be looking for the average amount spent by all players combined to average out across multiple months to enough to keep the company running and allow some money to be invested in developing new content and items.
Pretty much the same way most companies operate. To take a random example Nvidia don't depend on individual people buying new graphics cards each month, or even every 6 months to keep their income going. They know the vast majority of their customers will only buy a product once every few years. But they also know they're not all going to buy it at the same time, so between that and ensuring they regularly release new products to appeal to new people (or persuade their customers from 5 years ago to upgrade) it averages out to a regular income.
Same idea here. Just with considerably cheaper products.
I covered some of this in the post I linked. Yes... those with the benefits get to keep them. I am not suggesting anyone lose access to anything once their benefits lapse. I am suggesting that these benefits would entice players to subscribe.
And as I stated:any player that subs for 3 months has given ZOS more money than a player that upgrades to Imperial Edition and buys the "Adventurer Pack".
One of the ideas with my suggestion is the creation of a subscriber only portion of the Crown Store. Let everyone see what is in there, but only allow players who subscribe to buy those items. One of those items would be the Pledge of Mara. Many players would sub just for that. I have other ideas in other posts for what could be in that store, so I won't go into that here.
The idea is to entice players into subbing so that a longer, more steady revenue stream can be established. If ZOS expects to make it into the future. a new horse here and a new costume there just isn't going to make it.
Lol. Yep. You pay for the privilege of having access to buy the items. Double charge'ed!
How about this:
All current items on the cash shop could be bought by anyone.
ESO PLUS members get to buy some exclussive items like ring of mara and more bag space, more character slots.
Then create another, more expensive sub option: PREMIUM ESO PLUS. It costs 10 bucks more than eso plus each month and you get to buy all of the above and: race chance, class change, style change for dropped items, crafting upgrade items like tempers and kutas.
Then created third sub option which costs 10 bucks more than premium eso plus. Lets call this one: ELITE PREMIUM ESO PLUS. This one lets you buy all of the above and: Trait change for any item. Special motifs, XP potion, Enlightment Potions.
I think I should really consider creating an MMO.1 -
Ysne58✭✭✭✭✭The maps are exactly the same as they were in the explorer pack, same locations too. I got curious and purchased from EU store last night. I accidentally deleted most of my maps on EU a while back. So I have a new pet.
I really wish ZOS had been up front about this instead of pulling the bait and switch thingy. It would have done so much to improve their credibility.0 -
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I have been thinking about this on the way home from work and I think I have improved your idea quite a bit.
So you would make us pay so we get to pay even more? Brilliant! I suggest you and I make an MMO together.Don't know about you guys, but I pre-ordered the game to ensure that I got my Imperial Edition on launch day; not to get advantages in-game. I'm a bit amazed that they put that on the Crown Store, but I don't really care, if it keeps the cash flowing for ZOS.
Heh... If I'm honest... I did the same.
You said that "if it keeps the cash flowing"... 100% agree and that's one of the things that baffles me, that they AREN'T ensuring a cash "flow" they are offering a one-time purchase.
I suggested that both the Imperial upgrade and the Explorer's Pack be placed behind the Subscription. This way ZOS creates ongoing revenue and a reason for players to keep their subscription/resubscribe.
Want to create an Imperial? Need a subscription.
Want to create a race outside of an alliance? Need a subscription.
Want a NEW Pledge of Mara? To buy that, you need a subscription.
Want an Imperial Horse? To buy that, you need a subscription.
Oh! and here's a monthly treasure map for you to go hunt down. Enjoy!
THIS kind of idea would "keep the cash flowing", not just make a single splash.
Oh and any player that subs for 3 months has given ZOS more money than a player that upgrades to Imperial Edition and buys the "Adventurer Pack".
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/151782/put-the-imperial-edition-and-adventurer-pack-benefits-behind-the-subscription/p1
The problem with this is most of the benefits of these upgrades are not things you need all the time. It still wouldn't provide a regular cash flow because people would subscribe when they want to create a character in a different alliance, or buy the Imperial horse or whatever and then let it lapse afterwards. Unless you're seriously suggesting that people who create a character in a different alliance should lose access to that character any time their subscription runs out.
Also, What about people who already have the explorer's pack and/or Imperial edition but don't have a subscription? Are they they exception and they get to keep the upgrades anyway, or do they now have to pay a subscription to maintain access to something that was sold to them as a one-time purchase?
But maybe the most important point is that the absence of anything that guarantees each individual player keeps paying the same amount regularly shouldn't be a problem for ZOS, unless they're completely stupid. They (or at least their accountants) should be well aware that it doesn't work that way with a b2p/cash shop model. Instead they'll be looking for the average amount spent by all players combined to average out across multiple months to enough to keep the company running and allow some money to be invested in developing new content and items.
Pretty much the same way most companies operate. To take a random example Nvidia don't depend on individual people buying new graphics cards each month, or even every 6 months to keep their income going. They know the vast majority of their customers will only buy a product once every few years. But they also know they're not all going to buy it at the same time, so between that and ensuring they regularly release new products to appeal to new people (or persuade their customers from 5 years ago to upgrade) it averages out to a regular income.
Same idea here. Just with considerably cheaper products.
I covered some of this in the post I linked. Yes... those with the benefits get to keep them. I am not suggesting anyone lose access to anything once their benefits lapse. I am suggesting that these benefits would entice players to subscribe.
And as I stated:any player that subs for 3 months has given ZOS more money than a player that upgrades to Imperial Edition and buys the "Adventurer Pack".
One of the ideas with my suggestion is the creation of a subscriber only portion of the Crown Store. Let everyone see what is in there, but only allow players who subscribe to buy those items. One of those items would be the Pledge of Mara. Many players would sub just for that. I have other ideas in other posts for what could be in that store, so I won't go into that here.
The idea is to entice players into subbing so that a longer, more steady revenue stream can be established. If ZOS expects to make it into the future. a new horse here and a new costume there just isn't going to make it.
Lol. Yep. You pay for the privilege of having access to buy the items. Double charge'ed!
How about this:
All current items on the cash shop could be bought by anyone.
ESO PLUS members get to buy some exclussive items like ring of mara and more bag space, more character slots.
Then create another, more expensive sub option: PREMIUM ESO PLUS. It costs 10 bucks more than eso plus each month and you get to buy all of the above and: race chance, class change, style change for dropped items, crafting upgrade items like tempers and kutas.
Then created third sub option which costs 10 bucks more than premium eso plus. Lets call this one: ELITE PREMIUM ESO PLUS. This one lets you buy all of the above and: Trait change for any item. Special motifs, XP potion, Enlightment Potions.
I think I should really consider creating an MMO.
These are great! sounds like a winning plan to me!
What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
Click HERE to discuss.
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As we discussed in your thread on this particular issue, I said adding in this feature was going to very likely bring forth the mass flames of QQ --- and it has. Big surpise.... And no, the crown store as it is at this very moment will not bring in a lot off revenue. You are forgetting though, as are others here, that it is only been up for a few days.
They have repeatedly stated they will be updating content in the store very often and bringing in new items. I have no doubt that is one part of their word they intent to keep this time. Give it half a minute to get going before assuming it will not provide anything sufficient for sustainability. Meantime, I would encourage you to update and keep your suggestions thread about store items going, since some of those ideas may be of interest to other players and could get some attention for the store.
Yep. You called it. I actually expect to see any race-any alliance sold by itself fit 10000 crowns at some point.
What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
Click HERE to discuss.
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driosketch wrote: »Are you upset because it would no longer be a preorder exclusive, or upset it'll be $15 extra?
the explorers pack was available on the website. now its available in the crown store though with a different pet. I have no issue with that.Me: "Okay lets run to Alessia. Mount up and follow me!"
Me five seconds later: "Um yeah... totally forgot about that cliff..."0 -
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Of course, that's entirely irrelevant to whether an Elder Scrolls game should limit races to factions. You know, because in every single Elder Scrolls game ever there have been representatives of all races living in all provinces, and you've always been able to pick your race from amongst all of the races regardless of where the game is set (talking about the main games here, not the side games like Redguard where you play a specific character). Even more so than that, from the main story there's no logical reason why you should end up in your home faction when you randomly drop into the sea after escaping the Wailing Prison.Just food for thought:
Did you also play a Tauren on Alliance in WoW? Or a dwarf in Horde?
Outrageous how they limited races to factions...
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DeathTrap✭✭Don't know about you guys, but I pre-ordered the game to ensure that I got my Imperial Edition on launch day; not to get advantages in-game. I'm a bit amazed that they put that on the Crown Store, but I don't really care, if it keeps the cash flowing for ZOS.
Well..that's fine. But that really isn't the issue that many of us have. It's that they said there wouldn't be an explorer pack on the store. There is one - they just call it something else and swapped the pet. Additionally, there are people that preordered because of the explorer's pack - I'm one of them. The ability play any race in any alliance was a major factor in my decision to preorder.Cake is a lie. Pie is truth. Cookies are uncertainty. Muffins are the minions of a false God.1 -
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Well..that's fine. But that really isn't the issue that many of us have. It's that they said there wouldn't be an explorer pack on the store. There is one - they just call it something else and swapped the pet. Additionally, there are people that preordered because of the explorer's pack - I'm one of them. The ability play any race in any alliance was a major factor in my decision to preorder.
...you got what you were promised and you got it for free.
Now the rest of us get a chance to PURCHASE it.
Why does that bother you so much?Leylith - MagSorc | Leyloth - StamPlar | Leynerd - MagPlar | Leylit - StamBlade | Ley Eviticus - StamDK | Leydor - MagDen | Leylum - StamSorc | Leylux - MagBlade0 -
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Well..that's fine. But that really isn't the issue that many of us have. It's that they said there wouldn't be an explorer pack on the store. There is one - they just call it something else and swapped the pet. Additionally, there are people that preordered because of the explorer's pack - I'm one of them. The ability play any race in any alliance was a major factor in my decision to preorder.
...you got what you were promised and you got it for free.
Now the rest of us get a chance to PURCHASE it.
Why does that bother you so much?
The explorer pack was not free. If you have to buy something to get it then its not free. For example the house is free but the garage costs $150,000.2 -
DeathTrap✭✭
Well..that's fine. But that really isn't the issue that many of us have. It's that they said there wouldn't be an explorer pack on the store. There is one - they just call it something else and swapped the pet. Additionally, there are people that preordered because of the explorer's pack - I'm one of them. The ability play any race in any alliance was a major factor in my decision to preorder.
...you got what you were promised and you got it for free.
Now the rest of us get a chance to PURCHASE it.
Why does that bother you so much?
Once again - it is the lying that bothers me. If they had originally said they would offer the explorer's pack in the crown store, then I'd be mildly annoyed, but that's about it. Instead, they specifically said it would not be offered in the crown store and then put it up there anyway.Cake is a lie. Pie is truth. Cookies are uncertainty. Muffins are the minions of a false God.5 -
OP if you can find proof that ZOS advertised the pack as pre-order for the PC only and would never be offered again they could be in legal trouble. The game is however in the pre-order phase for console so if you have no proof it was meant for PC only and would never be offered again your out of luck. BTW thay don't get our Scuttler.1 -
Selique✭✭✭✭I pre-ordered for the explorer's pack, but many of my friends did not. They would like to play as any race in any faction, and I'd like to play with them, so I have nothing against them adding it in.
I wish they'd remove the restriction altogether. I hate restrictions like that in the first place. The money I spent to be a Redguard in EP is long gone and put to use by now. Let the flood gates open!Falls-With-Grace ~ Shadowscale (Argonian Night Blade)
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Inco✭✭✭✭Yea I remember doing the whole pre-order just to get the "Exclusive" pack that wasn't going to be offered again. What a load of crap. Now it has a different name and pet and being sold again.
Sorry.. this annoys me a LOT... limited one time only offer before launch. BOOM.. now it's available again. LOL
At least I still have my pet Monkey...
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Well..that's fine. But that really isn't the issue that many of us have. It's that they said there wouldn't be an explorer pack on the store. There is one - they just call it something else and swapped the pet. Additionally, there are people that preordered because of the explorer's pack - I'm one of them. The ability play any race in any alliance was a major factor in my decision to preorder.
...you got what you were promised and you got it for free.
Now the rest of us get a chance to PURCHASE it.
Why does that bother you so much?
Once again - it is the lying that bothers me. If they had originally said they would offer the explorer's pack in the crown store, then I'd be mildly annoyed, but that's about it. Instead, they specifically said it would not be offered in the crown store and then put it up there anyway.
Oh but wait, they called it a different name and added a different pet, completely 100% different package!
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Ley✭✭✭✭✭
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Well..that's fine. But that really isn't the issue that many of us have. It's that they said there wouldn't be an explorer pack on the store. There is one - they just call it something else and swapped the pet. Additionally, there are people that preordered because of the explorer's pack - I'm one of them. The ability play any race in any alliance was a major factor in my decision to preorder.
...you got what you were promised and you got it for free.
Now the rest of us get a chance to PURCHASE it.
Why does that bother you so much?
Once again - it is the lying that bothers me. If they had originally said they would offer the explorer's pack in the crown store, then I'd be mildly annoyed, but that's about it. Instead, they specifically said it would not be offered in the crown store and then put it up there anyway.
How did they specifically say that it would not be offered in the crown store, when there was no talk or mention of a crown store yet?
Is it possible that some people read a bit too far between the lines and made assumptions based on what they wanted to believe?
I just don't see the big deal. Everyone has a rite to be upset over whatever they want and that's fine with me. I just like to understand why.Leylith - MagSorc | Leyloth - StamPlar | Leynerd - MagPlar | Leylit - StamBlade | Ley Eviticus - StamDK | Leydor - MagDen | Leylum - StamSorc | Leylux - MagBlade1 -
Lynnessa✭✭✭✭So I just saw a promo vid for TU:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6KV3DsoEUw
I can't find the original, but there's a disturbing screenshot at 1:41:
There's a symbol there that looks *very* much like the "any race, any alliance" feature of the Explorers Pack.
So yeah. It's not on the PTS, but I'm just raising a stink in advance, in case ZOS is thinking about doing anything stupid here...
I just want more people to play with. Stop whining please.
I got the Explorer's pack without preordering or paying extra. It was "exclusive" to the store where I bought my physical copy of the game, which cost $60.
psufan's answer is indeed the correct answer. Also, if the psu in that name is short for Phantasy Star Universe, that's cool because I like Phantasy Star too
Speaking of Phantasy Star...
A lot of people who use the ESO official forums seem to always be looking for the newest way that ZOS is deceiving/betraying/cheating/etc them. What Sega did with Phantasy Star Online 2 is bad. Compared to that, ZOS has done nothing at all to deserve such accusations (well, deserve them any more than any other of a zillion companies who market art to mass consumers). Who cares what business model supports ESO or what is sold in the store, as long as the game is fun for you keep playing and if it's not fun then just turn it off and do something else.
Don't stress over a game, life is too short.Edited by Lynnessa on March 19, 2015 12:10AM0 -
..wait. So if they said the explorer's pack would be available a year later for purchase, it would've somehow impacted your (and by your i mean people complaining they were 'promised' they'd be unique snowflakes) decision to pre-order? I call shenanigans. There wasn't even a bloody crown store planned..
I bought it, don't care. Of course they would put it in the store, they need to make money since no sub. Get off your entitled high-horses. It doesn't change anything from your point of view. You got a year of exclusive 'feature' let others have their fun.
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✭cvgb16_ESO wrote: »..wait. So if they said the explorer's pack would be available a year later for purchase, it would've somehow impacted your (and by your i mean people complaining they were 'promised' they'd be unique snowflakes) decision to pre-order? I call shenanigans. There wasn't even a bloody crown store planned..
I bought it, don't care. Of course they would put it in the store, they need to make money since no sub. Get off your entitled high-horses. It doesn't change anything from your point of view. You got a year of exclusive 'feature' let others have their fun.
And if they took a question specifically about whether it would be on the Crown store 2 months ago and confirmed that it would NOT be going to the Crown store and then never said otherwise?
Most people don't care that it went to the Crown store. We care that they couldn't even bother to be straight w/ us about it. It's obviously not the end of the world, and it makes sense.
What doesn't make sense is not just being honest about it w/ your players.Edited by Varicite on March 19, 2015 12:29AM3 -
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They probably said that and then changed their minds after listening to all of the people like me who said that any race/any alliance should have always been available to everyone.cvgb16_ESO wrote: »..wait. So if they said the explorer's pack would be available a year later for purchase, it would've somehow impacted your (and by your i mean people complaining they were 'promised' they'd be unique snowflakes) decision to pre-order? I call shenanigans. There wasn't even a bloody crown store planned..
I bought it, don't care. Of course they would put it in the store, they need to make money since no sub. Get off your entitled high-horses. It doesn't change anything from your point of view. You got a year of exclusive 'feature' let others have their fun.
And if they took a question specifically about whether it would be on the Crown store 2 months ago and confirmed that it would NOT be going to the Crown store and then never said otherwise?
Most people don't care that it went to the Crown store. We care that they couldn't even bother to be straight w/ us about it. It's obviously not the end of the world, and it makes sense.
What doesn't make sense is not just being honest about it w/ your players.
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DeathTrap✭✭How did they specifically say that it would not be offered in the crown store, when there was no talk or mention of a crown store yet?
Is it possible that some people read a bit too far between the lines and made assumptions based on what they wanted to believe?
I just don't see the big deal. Everyone has a rite to be upset over whatever they want and that's fine with me. I just like to understand why.
They said it wouldn't be offered in the crown store right here, on January 27th, as previously mentioned in this discussion:ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Apologies for the confusion on this, everyone. This was simply a miscommunication and something that was intended to be removed, but an old version of this note inadvertently got published. The gist of this note was that items currently on the web store will be moved to the Crown Store (such as the Imperial Upgrade). Since the Explorer’s Pack was only available as a pre-order bonus and was not sold on our website, it will not be moving to the Crown Store. We’re going to remove this note from the patch notes to avoid any further misunderstandings.Edited by DeathTrap on March 19, 2015 12:38AMCake is a lie. Pie is truth. Cookies are uncertainty. Muffins are the minions of a false God.1 -
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I concede, you are right on that point. There haven't ever been restrictions, (partially) because in most ES games before, you started out being suspected a criminal before you could proof to be the saviour of the world.
Of course, that's entirely irrelevant to whether an Elder Scrolls game should limit races to factions. You know, because in every single Elder Scrolls game ever there have been representatives of all races living in all provinces, and you've always been able to pick your race from amongst all of the races regardless of where the game is set (talking about the main games here, not the side games like Redguard where you play a specific character). Even more so than that, from the main story there's no logical reason why you should end up in your home faction when you randomly drop into the sea after escaping the Wailing Prison.Just food for thought:
Did you also play a Tauren on Alliance in WoW? Or a dwarf in Horde?
Outrageous how they limited races to factions...
On the other hand, consider that this is NOT a single player game. You are not considered an outlaw by humanity. You exist in a world as a normal person that was sucked into a god's games, in a world where there are constraints. Have you experienced the atrocities that the other factions have done to each and every faction? Do you think that the normal person from streets, say a baker's or farmer's daughter, who hast lost relatives to the "filthy reptiles" or the "cannibals" or the "murderous redskins", will suddenly decide to join the Pact (Dominion, Covenant, respectively)? 100 of those? Even a thousand?
One reason for limiting the "any race any faction" thing in some way is more or less also lore-based: Yes there may be some who change alliances. But they are going to be in the minority. On way to reflect that in actual game population is to limit access to this pack. They did it initially (also, not perfect because you could still buy boxes at retailers that had those codes, I know) and that was a "lore-friendly" decision in the long run, since it limited that perk. Some of those that had access to this perk by now stopped playing and nowadays you actually feel like you are in a Pact army, because it actually is mostly Dunmer, Nord or Argonians running around.
Still, let them do whatever they want. I will not continue to further try convincing others that this is a bad move. I have done so mainly because of the classic "do as I say, not as I do" mentality that is made very obvious by reneging your words the day you are able to. This is what I complained about. The fact that I brought up the comparison to other "faction locked races" is basically in reply to those people that said, and I quote
I can only say: It's nothing abnormal and it makes sense for the respective story. In the end, none of those "special snowflake" comments will change my opinion. The opposite is true: Those implying that I just want to be a special snowflake are those that are very obviously those who can't stand to NOT be the special snowflake.It is ridiculous that players limited to factions for their optimal race choice.Edited by Keron on March 19, 2015 9:43AM2 -
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Might be tempting to buy again actually, to get all the treasures once more... :P0 -
ebunts14_ESO✭✭✭Will Character bank slots be added as a convenience item?
Im not saying do away with the account bank system, but let us have 100 to 200 bank slots per character as well. Character bank slots can not and should not be accessed by other characters on the account.
And if your willing to add things that enough people request are you also willing to take out items that the same number of players request as well? Of course I don't actually expect you (ZOS) to answer that.
Edited by ebunts14_ESO on March 19, 2015 10:34AM0 -
maryriv✭✭✭✭ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »The transition to Tamriel Unlimited has opened up some new opportunities for us. Now that ESO is no longer completely subscription-based, we're able to offer frequently requested character customization options such as the 'Play any race, any alliance' option.
As Tamriel Unlimited grows, we will regularly add and remove items from the Crown Store, switch up the content of item bundles, and even sell items currently in bundles à la carte. You should expect to see changes to store inventory on a regular basis. Please give us your feedback about what types of things you would like to see in the Crown Store, and we'll take that into account when making store inventory changes and designing new items.
You could have offered this with the sub base...0 -
jircris11✭✭✭✭✭
✭So I just saw a promo vid for TU:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6KV3DsoEUw
I can't find the original, but there's a disturbing screenshot at 1:41:
There's a symbol there that looks *very* much like the "any race, any alliance" feature of the Explorers Pack.
So yeah. It's not on the PTS, but I'm just raising a stink in advance, in case ZOS is thinking about doing anything stupid here...
Those who pre-ordered the game got their hands on the any race any faction. I think its time we give those who did not get it a chance. We had it to our self's for a year, and people were still buying it via amazon and illegal websites might as well just make it available.IGN: Ki'rah
Khajiit/Vampire
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Gidorick✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So I just saw a promo vid for TU:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6KV3DsoEUw
I can't find the original, but there's a disturbing screenshot at 1:41:
There's a symbol there that looks *very* much like the "any race, any alliance" feature of the Explorers Pack.
So yeah. It's not on the PTS, but I'm just raising a stink in advance, in case ZOS is thinking about doing anything stupid here...
Those who pre-ordered the game got their hands on the any race any faction. I think its time we give those who did not get it a chance. We had it to our self's for a year, and people were still buying it via amazon and illegal websites might as well just make it available.
Hey buddy! stop being reasonable and diplomatic. This is an internet forum. There's no place for such shenanigans here.
What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
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adriant1978✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Those who pre-ordered the game got their hands on the any race any faction. I think its time we give those who did not get it a chance. We had it to our self's for a year, and people were still buying it via amazon and illegal websites might as well just make it available.
But why weren't they up front about it from the start instead of first denying it and then sneaking it in like they thought nobody would notice? That's what's annoying me a lot more than the pre-order bonus losing its exclusivity.
Edited by adriant1978 on March 19, 2015 11:56AM2 -
Lolssi✭✭✭
I quess they just miscalculated how much they game would sell. And now you can find those boxed pre-order versions everywhere with <15€adriant1978 wrote: »But why weren't they up front about it from the start instead of first denying it and then sneaking it in like they thought nobody would notice? That's what's annoying me a lot more than the pre-order bonus losing its exclusivity.
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