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BoP system - What ZOS should do ? Come & Vote !
Biiiiiii
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I will quote something with I totally agree.
Just let BoP item's from cash shop and pass all others BoE
because BoP system sucks
If you have an other suggestion : Don't vote and explain
Edited by Biiiiiii on March 17, 2015 7:26AM kelly.medleyb14_ESO wrote: »For those of you who don't know Bind on Pickup or (BoP) is a method MMORPG games use to restrict gear and other items by making them unable to be traded or sold after you pick them up.
In the past it has been used as a band-aide "fix" to items the developers didn't want people passing to others so instead of incentivizing them not to, they simply forced them to not be able to trade or sell the item.
This becomes more poignant when considering the Undaunted Pledges for example when dealing with the 2 pc sets.
The pluses to this mechanic are:
1) Stops developers from letting an item be traded or sold.
The minuses to this are:
1) Deters people who would be motivated to do content in order to "farm" items to sell, gift or trade to friends, family or others.
2) Discourages players who try to get the item over and over and over and over again for their own use while the other members in the group get lots and lots of the item that they will either vend or deconstruct, including ones that this player would use.
3) Takes valuable items from the economy. Currently there are VERY few high value items as the most valuable items are things that are simply rare and not really practical.
4) Discourages re-playability of content. I have several helms of the kind I want so I have no reason to repeat content, this leaves those who want to do the content to get the exact one they want with a smaller pool of players to go with them.
There are more reasons why BoP is detrimental to the health of an MMORPG when overused (or used at all imo) as it is
Keep in mind I am not referring to Bind on Equip which makes sense considering the game mechanics and is practically unavoidable. BoP however is simply poor design.
Some proposed solutions are:
A ) Make all BoP item's BoE (yes including pets why force us to keep or delete pets we don't want?) At the same time greatly reduce the drop rate of said BoP items.
B ) Make BoP gear from dungeons trade-able for a time, this is my least favourite because it really doesn't handle the Gold key shoulder rewards.
C ) Need before Greed system. The group you are with rolls for desirable loot, still doesn't handle shoulder BoP rewards which should be made BoE.
I believe if you implement solution A you will see a much happier economy and healthier game with more replayability of content.
Just let BoP item's from cash shop and pass all others BoE
because BoP system sucks
What system tamriel unlimited should have ?
If you have an other suggestion : Don't vote and explain
BoP system - What ZOS should do ? Come & Vote ! 194 votes
Solution A
38%
74 votes
Solution B
17%
34 votes
Solution C
8%
16 votes
Let BoP system
36%
70 votes
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Panda244✭✭✭✭✭
✭Solution A will break the economy, plain and simple. I think it'd be better if all gear that is BoP, is BoE for a set period of time. Kind of like the SW:TOR Cartel Gear in reverse, after X amount of time it becomes permanently bound to whoever is holding it, trading it to someone else doesn't reset the timer, and you can't put the items on the market, you have to legitimately trade them with another person.Aldmeri Dominion For Life!
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Biiiiiii✭✭✭I don't think the solution A will break the game, in opposite it will liberate the economy. If including superrare item's, it will be boost.3
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byrom101b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Keep BoP, but allow BoP items to be unbound by selling them to a third party NPC group - Merchants Guild etc. which then goes on sale as unbound BoP with prices reflecting the basic rules of supply and demand, controlled by algorithims designed to keep the game economy in balance, but leaving them expensive.
Allow significant amounts of gold to be one way to get the items, but with hard to do solo and four man quests (including versions in Cyrodiil that actually involve taking keeps etc.to 're-open trade routs') you do for the Merchants Guild to put you in credit with them so you can get items cheaper.
That would be an excellent way to stop gear wastage and allow casual players, dedicated PvP'ers and solo players to slowly get gear the trial runners etc. got months before them.
Everybody wins!Edited by byrom101b16_ESO on March 18, 2015 10:00AM1 -
maryriv✭✭✭✭Or just allow a player driven market to form instead of artificially trying to control every aspect of it...3
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Seth_Black✭✭✭Step 1: Go do some dark cave
Step 2: Kill some stuff
Step 3: Get your gear (if you're worthy)
Step 4: Return UNDAUNTED!
EVERY game rewards people for doing dungeons, raids, trials, delves ...you name it.
More often you complete it - bigger chance to get what you want.
Plus now with the champion system in place EVERYTHING is a walking XP so by doing it you're not only getting another change to get gear you want, you're also progressing your character.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]Edited by ZOS_ShannonM on March 18, 2015 12:29PMOut of the night that covers me, Black as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul.
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✭1.) make all items decay by usage
2.) make all items BoE
3.) slightly reduce the drop rates of valuable items
4.) see the system balance itselfspelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
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LawfulEvil✭✭✭I like it the way it is . Was that an option on the poll? Sorry just woke up. Very biased poll.3 -
asteldian✭✭✭✭I don't mind BoP but I think items should be tradable from dungeons with your group until you leave the instance. Rift did something similar and it worked well.
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Olysja✭✭✭this system works perfectly atm and surely not ruining the ''economy'' rotfl. removing BoP = old gold exploiters instantly full dressedup, noobs traders = instantly dressed up, more bot farmers, more multisession farmers. there are so many others bugs/issues to fix, why the hell change something that works:)Are you a perfect russian woman? add me-> @Olysja (✿☯‿☯✿)
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Dilarn✭✭✭U yeah and in the end we will buy items from some darkling Kajit...? No way... then BoP0 -
Kronosphere✭✭✭✭cool so you want the entire gear progression to literally be "grind gold, buy ideal gear for my character. done." jee thatd make me wanna play for ages and it would be ooooh so much fun *sarcasm*.
all your solutions are WORSE than the smithing exploit on skyrim before it was patched. yay i got full daedric armor,, now what.. gear progression imo is a key thing that makes tes games fun, and u want to destroy that. NO!~House Indoril~
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supernico✭✭✭People claiming that BoE would hurt the economy of the game... What economy? This game has no economy beside potions, mainly because of the plain itemization design. Ofcourse 1.6 pushed alot of sales because of the steep changes but otherwise the economy is near inexistent.
BoE would actually create a healthy economy driven by players and in time will settle by itself.
Solution A seems the best. Tanquill`s seems good aswell.Supernico - VR14 DragonKnight - Daggerfall Covenant - Former EmperorMy name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.2 -
BlackEar✭✭✭✭✭If not keeping the current system then the need before greed system.
I like the excitement of rolling for an item. Seems more of a competition and more engaged with the other players instead of 4 individuals running together.
I must say that "solution a" is a horrible, horrible way to go about "fixing" this issue. It will ruin gear progression and the economy in a heartbeat. No good.
So many flaws in that I cannot believe people are voting this up. Clearly, they have not thought it through.Edited by BlackEar on March 18, 2015 12:22PMBjorn Blackbear - Master Angler - Collector - Black Market Mogul - Ebonheart Pact - Exterminatus - EU.
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maryriv✭✭✭✭People claiming that BoE would hurt the economy of the game... What economy? This game has no economy beside potions, mainly because of the plain itemization design. Ofcourse 1.6 pushed alot of sales because of the steep changes but otherwise the economy is near inexistent.
BoE would actually create a healthy economy driven by players and in time will settle by itself.
Solution A seems the best. Tanquill`s seems good aswell.
Exactly. Everything is easy to get so there needs to be some quality items that are BoE that are worth selling. BoP stiffles and ruins economies.4 -
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✭✭Honestly I think people need an incentive to go do "hard" dungeons and trails. I hate the idea of everyone running around with Valkyn Skoria without having completed vet CoA. I agree these sets are hard to get but the game need the item chase, Ive completed vet CoA about 10x but have never received the Valkyn Skoria headpiece. This is frustrating but otherwise I would have no reason to even run this dungeon after getting the achievements.PC - EU (AD)Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
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Biiiiiii✭✭✭People claiming that BoE would hurt the economy of the game... What economy? This game has no economy beside potions, mainly because of the plain itemization design. Ofcourse 1.6 pushed alot of sales because of the steep changes but otherwise the economy is near inexistent.
BoE would actually create a healthy economy driven by players and in time will settle by itself.
Solution A seems the best. Tanquill`s seems good aswell.
I agrée ESO has no economy fault of BoP mainly. And everything is TOO easy to get.
Edited by Biiiiiii on March 18, 2015 4:59PM3 -
Biiiiiii✭✭✭At this moment 35 votes for delete BoP and change the system for another solution and 25 for let BoP system.2
