That's actually.... Awesome.And Argonians riding inside Rootworms.
Yea. I kind of wish we never got anything but different horse breeds as mounts.But we do what we can with what we have, and this is the tamriel we are in now!
The thought did cross my mind to suggest that the racial mounts be different horses but this idea is to give players a reason to ride a specific mount, create alternate characters, and add more to the crown store. If it's just all different looking horses I don't think it serves as broad a purpose.
I would genuinely like help figuring out which mounts should be with which race.
So if Orcs are bears (love it! ) are Nords Sabre Cats?
If Orcs are Sabre Cats, what are Bretons?
Let's spit ball with other ideas and new creatures.
Could the Altmer ride Dragon Horses? Or would that be to much?
@bertenburnyb16_ESO the stilt runner is just a concept. It has short legs and is about the size of a horse. It's a cousin of the stilt strider.
bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »@bertenburnyb16_ESO the stilt runner is just a concept. It has short legs and is about the size of a horse. It's a cousin of the stilt strider.
would still prefer guar then I guess
Only if they give one of each free with a unique colour scheme as a loyalty reward to coincide with the reward Senche, so it's not just Khajiit getting bonuses for unique loyalty mount.
I'd say something similar to a wamasu would make more sense for argonian and dunmer could just as equally be a battle guar.
Still, rootworm is too much of a stretch. Do you know how slow a worm would move on land? The reason they move so fast is they glide along roots underwater (and can traverse miles within minutes). And folks have to claim inside their stomach to ride them. I would say rootworm would act better as some sort of taxi service. It would be neat actually if some cities had their wayshrines replaced with say, a silt strider taxi (morrowind) or rootworm (blackmarsh) for immersion sake. Probably still function the same way as a wayshrine
@Faugaun so you're suggesting mount classes have the racial bonuses, not just specific mounts? That's an interesting thought. I did have, in my concept, the idea that all of these mounts would have different "skins" that could be purchased in the crown store? So not all the mounts would look the same.
Maybe, using factions, we could assign faction mount bonuses... that would make it so people aren't complaining about not liking their mount.
Of course, that would decrease the incentive to make alts.
Again, good try Gidorick but still not lore-friendly enough for my liking. My comments:
And Argonians riding inside Rootworms.
Yea. I kind of wish we never got anything but different horse breeds as mounts.But we do what we can with what we have, and this is the tamriel we are in now!
The thought did cross my mind to suggest that the racial mounts be different horses but this idea is to give players a reason to ride a specific mount, create alternate characters, and add more to the crown store. If it's just all different looking horses I don't think it serves as broad a purpose.
I would genuinely like help figuring out which mounts should be with which race.
So if Orcs are bears (love it! ) are Nords Sabre Cats?
If Orcs are Sabre Cats, what are Bretons?
Let's spit ball with other ideas and new creatures.
Could the Altmer ride Dragon Horses? Or would that be to much?
@Dracane @Panda244 and @TheShadowScout You know, the Altmer mount was the one I had the most issues with, personally... too LOTR, but I couldn't think of another mount type that would make sense for the Altmer. It doesn't have to mean they are "one with nature", just that they have broken the elk as one would break a horse.
It's not unheard of:
That being said, I also thought a really regal looking horse would work for Altmer but I thought it would be too much to have "special horses" for two of the races... so if it's horse for Altmer... what mount for Imperials?
I did consider a Griffin but there has never been any mention of griffins in lore, I don't think.
Oh... and unicorns are WAY too rare to be used as a mount for a bunch of people. I actually seriously thought the "exclusive mount for those that had been with ZOS since the beginning" should have been a unicorn. Cheezy, sure... but it would limit the unicorn to give it to some and never release it to anyone else.
Sabre cats were chosen for Breton because of where Bretons are in Tamriel. Aren't there Sabre Cats in Craglorn? That's a Daggerfall covenant zone so I kind of felt it was an easy enough stretch to make. Unfortunately, I ran into similar issues with my War Mount concept, Daggerfall Covenant just doesn't have a lot of options as far as wildlife goes, where as the Ebonheart Pact has TONS. I think it's because Morrowind and Skyrim both took place in Ebonheart areas.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/152462/siege-weapon-concept-war-mounts
@PlagueMonk I tried to find large, flightless birds in Tamriel and I came up empty handed. I too thought a bird would have been a good mount for Bosmer, which would have freed up the wolf for another race. I did my best to not ADD to existing lore.
The only thing I 'made up' was the Stilt Runner. Being that there are Stilt Striders, I thought it was an alright mount to suggest.
As for everyone not liking the Rootworm... That actually really surprises me! It's 100% lore appropriate (unlike most of these concepts, lol) and it's a really unique mount, and as I suggested in my Argonian concept:The Rootworm could emerge from the ground and the player would slide inside. As the player moves, the worm lurches forward, if the player “runs” while mounted, the Rootworm could dive into the ground with a disturbance on the ground showing where the player currently is.
The disturbance on the ground could be as visible as a mounted PC.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/147221/concept-for-a-future-argonian-centric-update#latest
I am NOT saying Wamasu not be a mount... just not used for the racial-bonus mount, There should be many other types of mounts not mentioned here that holds NO racial-bonuses whatsoever. Wamasu should be one of those mounts.
And thanks @vrine. I really enjoy the lore of Tamriel and ESO is my first MMO. It being a perpetually growing and evolving program I really hope that they will look at some of our suggestions while they are developing ideas.
Personally, I would have liked for all the mounts to have remained horses and there just have been different armor sets for the different races kind of how we have armor motifs, but that went out the window pretty early on when we heard Senche Mounts were on their way.
Do you have an alternate suggestion @AngryNord? I have said I didn't particularly care for the choice of Elk but it kind of just defaulted that way in my "mount matching".
And to be fair... that fact that ESO even HAS elves means it's inspired, in part, by LOTR. And the Elk in Peter Jackson's movies is a Eurasian Elk. An extinct form of elk with big moose-like antlers.
PlagueMonk wrote: »Again, good try Gidorick but still not lore-friendly enough for my liking. My comments:
At it's core this statement is a poor one at best. Why? Because you cannot possibly include everything about a race/culture in even a series of writings. Thank goodness this is ALL made up and with the simple act of putting pen to paper (ok, finger to keyboard) you can ADD anything!
Here, watch........"While a little known fact, Argonians once rode the dreaded "Phorus", giant flightless birds that terrorized the marshes of the South. Sadly, the population of these terrible birds dwindled to extinction (or so we thought!) Recently a herd was found in a remote corner of the marsh and the Argonians are now actively trying to nurture the species back and to once more ride these great predators into battle!"
Woohoo! New lore was JUST created that didn't stomp on anyone's toes but injected a brand new element! Pretty magical eh?
So please stop with "lore-friendly" crapola.
Gideon wrote:I did consider a Griffin but there has never been any mention of griffins in lore, I don't think.
AtriasNaradan wrote: »PlagueMonk wrote: »Again, good try Gidorick but still not lore-friendly enough for my liking. My comments:
At it's core this statement is a poor one at best. Why? Because you cannot possibly include everything about a race/culture in even a series of writings. Thank goodness this is ALL made up and with the simple act of putting pen to paper (ok, finger to keyboard) you can ADD anything!
Here, watch........"While a little known fact, Argonians once rode the dreaded "Phorus", giant flightless birds that terrorized the marshes of the South. Sadly, the population of these terrible birds dwindled to extinction (or so we thought!) Recently a herd was found in a remote corner of the marsh and the Argonians are now actively trying to nurture the species back and to once more ride these great predators into battle!"
Woohoo! New lore was JUST created that didn't stomp on anyone's toes but injected a brand new element! Pretty magical eh?
So please stop with "lore-friendly" crapola.
You missed one simple fact about lore...not just anyone can add to it. Only creator of the story and people that's given the right by the creator can add to the lore. Also it can't contradict the already existing lore without a valid connecting explaination. So no, nothing magical about it.
nice concept.. but i don't want to ride big ugly worm...
HEY @ZOS! Here's a bunch of mounts for the crown shop.
I want that worm! I'd totally play an Argonian with that worm.
I know it doesn't exactly "fit" into the lore... but neither does the whole flaming horse so at this point... just use the lore as "inspiration" for these sorts of things.
Rootworm all the way! WOO HOO!!!!
AtriasNaradan wrote: »HEY @ZOS! Here's a bunch of mounts for the crown shop.
I want that worm! I'd totally play an Argonian with that worm.
I know it doesn't exactly "fit" into the lore... but neither does the whole flaming horse so at this point... just use the lore as "inspiration" for these sorts of things.
Rootworm all the way! WOO HOO!!!!
I don't fancy that flaming horse as well, but it is Daedric horse, which means it's not something that must always be seen on Tamriel. Add the fact that everything that happens on ESO time period is not recorded, it's a missing part of TES history...so it isn't lore unfriendly.
On the other hand, while Rootworm is also lore friendly, it can't travel aboveground and it can only walk on swampy areas. You simply can't add something like that as a mount on ESO.
AtriasNaradan wrote: »HEY @ZOS! Here's a bunch of mounts for the crown shop.
I want that worm! I'd totally play an Argonian with that worm.
I know it doesn't exactly "fit" into the lore... but neither does the whole flaming horse so at this point... just use the lore as "inspiration" for these sorts of things.
Rootworm all the way! WOO HOO!!!!
I don't fancy that flaming horse as well, but it is Daedric horse, which means it's not something that must always be seen on Tamriel. Add the fact that everything that happens on ESO time period is not recorded, it's a missing part of TES history...so it isn't lore unfriendly.
On the other hand, while Rootworm is also lore friendly, it can't travel aboveground and it can only walk on swampy areas. You simply can't add something like that as a mount on ESO.
Please provide the source for where lore says Rootworms are ONLY found traveling the Underground Express and that they CAN'T travel above ground.
Of course, I realize that just because it's not in lore doesn't make it lore-appropriate. It's never said that Guars CAN'T fart rainbows and cry golden tears.... I'm just trying to point out what we know about Rootworms is rather limited, so I don't think either of us has "lore on our side" when it comes to deciding if a Rootworm mount is "lore-appropriate".
As for the flaming horse. There is NO reason for hundreds of players to have those things. If there were a quest or something that involved a flaming horse that we "tamed"... sure, whatever. But as is, there is no reason for a person fresh out of Coldharbor to be galloping around on a flaming Daedric horse. Unless we got it IN Coldharbor, but there should be something to indicate that.
That's my main issue with the Daedric horse... hundreds of players running around on them with no rhyme or reason.