Mount Specific Racial Riding Bonuses Concept

UltimaJoe777

altemriel wrote: »

another awesome post man, Gidorick, I just love to read your ideas!!


If ZOS would implement even a small portion of your suggestions, it would make the game even more awesome!!!

So you necro 3 of his threads months old just to agree with his suggestions? Yeah, sure...

Rajajshka

I want da worm >.>

Gidorick

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

another awesome post man, Gidorick, I just love to read your ideas!!


If ZOS would implement even a small portion of your suggestions, it would make the game even more awesome!!!

So you necro 3 of his threads months old just to agree with his suggestions? Yeah, sure...

Well, I DID reference the threads in response to some threads he posted. He didn't "agree" with every thread I linked, just the ones he liked. How do you suppose we do this differently @UltimaJoe777? What sin have we committed?

Gidorick

Dreadhsif1978 wrote: »

I want da worm >.>

Glad I'm not the only one @Dreadhsif1978. Hehehe.

UltimaJoe777

Gidorick wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

another awesome post man, Gidorick, I just love to read your ideas!!


If ZOS would implement even a small portion of your suggestions, it would make the game even more awesome!!!

So you necro 3 of his threads months old just to agree with his suggestions? Yeah, sure...

Well, I DID reference the threads in response to some threads he posted. He didn't "agree" with every thread I linked, just the ones he liked. How do you suppose we do this differently @UltimaJoe777? What sin have we committed?

Perhaps just continue the conversation in the thread you linked him from? Just a thought lol

Also I suppose necromancy isn't a sin lol it's just raising the dead. Yyyep, nuthin wrong thar! Carry on, all is well. By the way, Mannimarco says hi!

Gidorick

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

another awesome post man, Gidorick, I just love to read your ideas!!


If ZOS would implement even a small portion of your suggestions, it would make the game even more awesome!!!

So you necro 3 of his threads months old just to agree with his suggestions? Yeah, sure...

Well, I DID reference the threads in response to some threads he posted. He didn't "agree" with every thread I linked, just the ones he liked. How do you suppose we do this differently @UltimaJoe777? What sin have we committed?

Perhaps just continue the conversation in the thread you linked him from? Just a thought lol

Also I suppose necromancy isn't a sin lol it's just raising the dead. Yyyep, nuthin wrong thar! Carry on, all is well. By the way, Mannimarco says hi!

Lol. Yes. Threadomancy is real. I appreciate the reply. It brings this specific concept back into the light. Otherwise I'd just be bumping my old thread... and that is a quick way to get in trouble around these parts.

UltimaJoe777

Gidorick wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

another awesome post man, Gidorick, I just love to read your ideas!!


If ZOS would implement even a small portion of your suggestions, it would make the game even more awesome!!!

So you necro 3 of his threads months old just to agree with his suggestions? Yeah, sure...

Well, I DID reference the threads in response to some threads he posted. He didn't "agree" with every thread I linked, just the ones he liked. How do you suppose we do this differently @UltimaJoe777? What sin have we committed?

Perhaps just continue the conversation in the thread you linked him from? Just a thought lol

Also I suppose necromancy isn't a sin lol it's just raising the dead. Yyyep, nuthin wrong thar! Carry on, all is well. By the way, Mannimarco says hi!

Lol. Yes. Threadomancy is real. I appreciate the reply. It brings this specific concept back into the light. Otherwise I'd just be bumping my old thread... and that is a quick way to get in trouble around these parts.

Threadomancy? Sounds like some form of Clothing. Oh god please don't tell me you're bringing rags to life!?

Gidorick

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

another awesome post man, Gidorick, I just love to read your ideas!!


If ZOS would implement even a small portion of your suggestions, it would make the game even more awesome!!!

So you necro 3 of his threads months old just to agree with his suggestions? Yeah, sure...

Well, I DID reference the threads in response to some threads he posted. He didn't "agree" with every thread I linked, just the ones he liked. How do you suppose we do this differently @UltimaJoe777? What sin have we committed?

Perhaps just continue the conversation in the thread you linked him from? Just a thought lol

Also I suppose necromancy isn't a sin lol it's just raising the dead. Yyyep, nuthin wrong thar! Carry on, all is well. By the way, Mannimarco says hi!

Lol. Yes. Threadomancy is real. I appreciate the reply. It brings this specific concept back into the light. Otherwise I'd just be bumping my old thread... and that is a quick way to get in trouble around these parts.

Threadomancy? Sounds like some form of Clothing. Oh god please don't tell me you're bringing rags to life!?

Necrothreadcy?

Lol. Either way, I still belive this concept is sound. Of course, the idea of race specific riding bonuses from mounts you can only get through the crown store seems kind of pay-to-win.

My preferred solution to this is that ZOS release one of every type of mount in the stables for in game gold. Or perhaps add a new horse to the stables, A Tamriel Thoroughbred for like 250,000 gold that will give ANY player 10% Speed Bonus and 20% Stamina Bonus.

This way there is a way to gain these bonuses in-game, but the incentive to simply buy a mount from the crown store remains high.

Volkodav

Gidorick wrote: »

There has been a few discussions about race specific mounts in ESO. With the new direction of ESO, having race specific mounts wouldn’t make a lot of sense. However, for RP and immersion purposes, having race specific mounts is quite the boon. There is, however, a middle ground.

Mount Specific Racial Riding Bonuses

Core Concept
ZOS should consider giving bonuses to players who ride their Race Specific Mount. These bonuses should be placed on top of whatever their current skills are.

• 10% Speed Bonus
• 20% Stamina Bonus

These bonuses do not mean that other races shouldn’t be able to ride these mounts, they just won’t receive the racial riding bonus. This system will allow all players to ride all mounts but will give players incentives to not only create alternate characters but to use their Race Specific Mount.

Now let's have some fun!
Below are some suggestions for what NEW mount could be added for each race. Each Mount could be purchased in the Crown Store in various styles, just as the horses and Senche cats will soon be.

Thoughts?

Ooo,I do like this,Gidorick. If only they would make each mount look as they do here.Theat Sensche in the above picture is amazing looking! MUCH nicer than the ones we have now.Long,slender,and made for running!

Gidorick

The whole concept was born from wanting ACTUAL Senche mounts for my Khajiit @Volkodav . I really like the idea of mounts that match up to a race. It would make sense that X race would be better at Y skill while they're on Z mount.

Volkodav

Gidorick wrote: »

The whole concept was born from wanting ACTUAL Senche mounts for my Khajiit @Volkodav . I really like the idea of mounts that match up to a race. It would make sense that X race would be better at Y skill while they're on Z mount.

Yes,it does make sense. Only if there are skills and passives for each.Then,they would compliment eachother.
It's just that Id love to ride several of those mounts,but only enjoy playing Imps,for some reason.I havent figured it out yet.Perhaps cos i can make such handsome guys out of em! XD

Gidorick

Volkodav wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

The whole concept was born from wanting ACTUAL Senche mounts for my Khajiit @Volkodav . I really like the idea of mounts that match up to a race. It would make sense that X race would be better at Y skill while they're on Z mount.

Yes,it does make sense. Only if there are skills and passives for each.Then,they would compliment eachother.
It's just that Id love to ride several of those mounts,but only enjoy playing Imps,for some reason.I havent figured it out yet.Perhaps cos i can make such handsome guys out of em! XD

My thought is the bonus simply boosts your current stats. So a player with...
- 30 points speed
- 20 points stamina
Would, in effect have their racial mount act as if they have
-33 points speed
-24 points stamina

It's not enough to make it a completely unfair advantage, and not enough to make you feel like you MUST use the racial mount. However, it is enough to make a properly paired mount & rider feel "right".

I feel ya on the Imperials. They are the "Regal but not racist" race. They're the most traditional fantasy race in ESO. They're kind of "Medieval English".

Volkodav

Gidorick wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

The whole concept was born from wanting ACTUAL Senche mounts for my Khajiit @Volkodav . I really like the idea of mounts that match up to a race. It would make sense that X race would be better at Y skill while they're on Z mount.

Yes,it does make sense. Only if there are skills and passives for each.Then,they would compliment eachother.
It's just that Id love to ride several of those mounts,but only enjoy playing Imps,for some reason.I havent figured it out yet.Perhaps cos i can make such handsome guys out of em! XD

My thought is the bonus simply boosts your current stats. So a player with...
- 30 points speed
- 20 points stamina
Would, in effect have their racial mount act as if they have
-33 points speed
-24 points stamina

It's not enough to make it a completely unfair advantage, and not enough to make you feel like you MUST use the racial mount. However, it is enough to make a properly paired mount & rider feel "right".

I feel ya on the Imperials. They are the "Regal but not racist" race. They're the most traditional fantasy race in ESO. They're kind of "Medieval English".

Yup.Medieval English race.Perfect description.And they're just the best to create too.For me anyway.
Your point sets work nicely for the situation.
What would mixing mounts and races do? Nothing? Or,maybe smaller stat set ups,gaining as the mount is trained?
Like player has
15 points speed
10 points stamina
and the mount effect added would be like
17 speed
14 Stamina
Half the benefits for a mixed set up.

As you train them the stats go up?

Gidorick

Volkodav wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

The whole concept was born from wanting ACTUAL Senche mounts for my Khajiit @Volkodav . I really like the idea of mounts that match up to a race. It would make sense that X race would be better at Y skill while they're on Z mount.

Yes,it does make sense. Only if there are skills and passives for each.Then,they would compliment eachother.
It's just that Id love to ride several of those mounts,but only enjoy playing Imps,for some reason.I havent figured it out yet.Perhaps cos i can make such handsome guys out of em! XD

My thought is the bonus simply boosts your current stats. So a player with...
- 30 points speed
- 20 points stamina
Would, in effect have their racial mount act as if they have
-33 points speed
-24 points stamina

It's not enough to make it a completely unfair advantage, and not enough to make you feel like you MUST use the racial mount. However, it is enough to make a properly paired mount & rider feel "right".

I feel ya on the Imperials. They are the "Regal but not racist" race. They're the most traditional fantasy race in ESO. They're kind of "Medieval English".

Yup.Medieval English race.Perfect description.And they're just the best to create too.For me anyway.
Your point sets work nicely for the situation.
What would mixing mounts and races do? Nothing? Or,maybe smaller stat set ups,gaining as the mount is trained?
Like player has
15 points speed
10 points stamina
and the mount effect added would be like
17 speed
14 Stamina
Half the benefits for a mixed set up.

As you train them the stats go up?

I was thinking they would just act as they do now, but smaller boosts for "somewhat compatible" mounts might be cool too!

Volkodav

Gidorick wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

The whole concept was born from wanting ACTUAL Senche mounts for my Khajiit @Volkodav . I really like the idea of mounts that match up to a race. It would make sense that X race would be better at Y skill while they're on Z mount.

Yes,it does make sense. Only if there are skills and passives for each.Then,they would compliment eachother.
It's just that Id love to ride several of those mounts,but only enjoy playing Imps,for some reason.I havent figured it out yet.Perhaps cos i can make such handsome guys out of em! XD

My thought is the bonus simply boosts your current stats. So a player with...
- 30 points speed
- 20 points stamina
Would, in effect have their racial mount act as if they have
-33 points speed
-24 points stamina

It's not enough to make it a completely unfair advantage, and not enough to make you feel like you MUST use the racial mount. However, it is enough to make a properly paired mount & rider feel "right".

I feel ya on the Imperials. They are the "Regal but not racist" race. They're the most traditional fantasy race in ESO. They're kind of "Medieval English".

Yup.Medieval English race.Perfect description.And they're just the best to create too.For me anyway.
Your point sets work nicely for the situation.
What would mixing mounts and races do? Nothing? Or,maybe smaller stat set ups,gaining as the mount is trained?
Like player has
15 points speed
10 points stamina
and the mount effect added would be like
17 speed
14 Stamina
Half the benefits for a mixed set up.

As you train them the stats go up?

I was thinking they would just act as they do now, but smaller boosts for "somewhat compatible" mounts might be cool too!

Wouldnt it be really cool if they actually had skill lines? Only a few passives? I wonder what t hey might be.

Gidorick

Have you seen my two mount centric threads @Volkodav ?

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/159507/advanced-mounts-overhaul-concept/p1

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/165659/tangible-mounts-advanced-concept/p1

The first one, specifically, would add anew active mount skill bar.

I do like the idea of each Mount having skills that are specific to them that would carry over across characters.

Volkodav

Gidorick wrote: »

Have you seen my two mount centric threads @Volkodav ?

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/159507/advanced-mounts-overhaul-concept/p1

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/165659/tangible-mounts-advanced-concept/p1

The first one, specifically, would add anew active mount skill bar.

I do like the idea of each Mount having skills that are specific to them that would carry over across characters.

I'm in the first link.
I love who you are using as an example of mount combat.He used to make me so mad at him when he would pick fights with enemies I was trying to avoid,or get mad at me and begin hitting me. XD
The first link shows great promise if the Devs would take a good look at it.
However,I get dizzy while in FP mode.
I'm in the second link now.
I too agree that mounts should stick around.I hate it when it just goes poof and is gone.It's just unnatural.The horses stayed and waited in Skyrim.Well,they didnt wait long.They took off mostly.But when you found them,you could use E to mount.
Also nice that you mention the mount gear bit.I wish there were gear for mounts,but as it is,.there arent any.Not even changes of saddles.Armor would be welcome,with stats as well.
Oh,that greenie kills me!
Who did that to their horse>> XD

I went through the whole post and there really isnt anything to say nay about. It all looks great,and I think it would be a welcome addition.

Gidorick

Thanks for giving it a gander @Volkodav . Having more "personal" mounts and pets is one of my biggest wishes for ESO. I like games where I feel an attachment to the mount I'm riding. It shouldn't just be a vehicle.

The new news of "personalities" being offered for players makes me kind of want different personalities for my mounts and pets too.

Volkodav

Gidorick wrote: »

Thanks for giving it a gander @Volkodav . Having more "personal" mounts and pets is one of my biggest wishes for ESO. I like games where I feel an attachment to the mount I'm riding. It shouldn't just be a vehicle.

The new news of "personalities" being offered for players makes me kind of want different personalities for my mounts and pets too.

Hehehe,I can see it now. A horse with an attitude,..like Shadowmere.
I tried the personalities and they are Gestures and changes in how you walk,stand, and run.The first one I got was a rather arrogant posturing. lol. It was fun though.You get to twirl your dagger,that is in your hand.Not yours,but the one you get with the personality.

Saoirse_Siobhan

I want to see an Echatere mount from Wrothgar!



Looks badass!

Gidorick

TheWhiteDarkness wrote: »

I want to see an Echatere mount from Wrothgar!



Looks badass!

Me too @TheWhiteDarkness ! When I made this thread I didn't even know those existed!

Saoirse_Siobhan

Gidorick wrote: »

Me to @TheWhiteDarkness ! When I made this thread I didn't even know those existed!

Yeah I love it, but the small loyalty reward pet from the DLC (baby Echatere) is so ****ing annoying! I haven't picked it up yet but when I saw following other people around I was like WTF! But Stuga, the orc that gives you the starting quest for Orsinium has a Echatere mount sitting beside her and I fell in love! I WANT THAT MOUNT!

Saoirse_Siobhan

Which race would ride this mount?

TheWhiteDarkness wrote: »

I was just about to mention that. I thought a Fellrunner mount would be awesome. I've wanted one ever since I saw them running around in Craglorn




Don't know if this was mentioned here already but PLZ MAKE THIS HAPPEN!

dodgehopper_ESO

I just want to say that the Rootworm seems really cool, but travelling in the earth seems a tad difficult for a game such as this (and really advantageous perhaps in pvp?)

Saoirse_Siobhan

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

I just want to say that the Rootworm seems really cool, but travelling in the earth seems a tad difficult for a game such as this (and really advantageous perhaps in pvp?)

Could be like a Bugs Bunny animation and all you can see is dirt flying everywhere. But yeah you'd have to make it attackable.

idk

Gidorick wrote: »

What would be the problem with mount bonuses @Giles.floydub17_ESO?

Keep in mind, these bonuses are suggested for when a player is playing a specific race on a specific mount.

It's just silliness tha reminds me of a much lesser game called Neverwinter. You want the game to play like Neverwinter then I suggest downloading it again.

Fortunately Zos will not add this and considering the EXTREEMLY low interest in this thread few are interested. Let the thread die again so it gets the respect it deserves.

Gidorick

The way I envisioned the sprint animation would be @dodgehopper_ESO & @TheWhiteDarkness9is like a dirt wave like in Tremors.

Except it would be HUGE...pretty much the size of a mount. Imagine tearing through Cyrodill with a dozen other Rootworms...

If you attack the dirt wave and the player is "kicked off" of the Rootworm they are just spat out of the dirt wave. Running and walking would be a sort of undulating motion across the ground.

Anyway, that's just how I envisioned it.

ChrispyRambo

After paying for all the mounts in the crown store you would be able to buy a new pc/console!

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

How about a completely crazy idea: Khajiit cannot ride a mount.
They go on four "legs" and run as fast.
:P

Basically: think cheetah.

Gidorick

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

What would be the problem with mount bonuses @Giles.floydub17_ESO?

Keep in mind, these bonuses are suggested for when a player is playing a specific race on a specific mount.

It's just silliness tha reminds me of a much lesser game called Neverwinter. You want the game to play like Neverwinter then I suggest downloading it again.

Fortunately Zos will not add this and considering the EXTREEMLY low interest in this thread few are interested. Let the thread die again so it gets the respect it deserves.

Well aren't you just a pleasant ray of sunshine @Giles.floydub17_ESO ?

Generally, players on this forum aren't interested in discussing concepts. They just want to complain and insult one another. There is a small community that appreciates this sort of thing and it's worth keeping threads alive for them. If you're not part of the community that enjoys this sort of thing, feel free to ignore these kinds of threads.

If you're the type who likes to rain on parades, burst bubbles, talk down to, and otherwise belittle others... I can point you to more of my threads to passively insult, bringing them back to the front page.

As for Neverwinter... I haven't played that since well before ESO came out. I don't remember Racial Mount Bonuses. The quick look I just had seems to involve adding insignias to mounts to give them powers. I didn't see any race bonuses for mounts. Is that something they do?

Or are you just talking about mounts being more than just vehicles? Because I would love my mount to be more than just a faster way to travel!