Cyrodiil 80% empty (even on maxed servers)

kijima · March 2015

Valnas wrote: »

wtb pre lighting patch emu server

Amen brother... AMEN!

scy22b14_ESO · March 2015

Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »

Nijjion wrote: »

Don't worry guys only about a year and Camelot Unchained will be out... We can play a real RvR game then.

At least soon we won't have to pay for this dribble.

In Camelot Unchained all progression will come from RVR and PVP. That means no PVE grind or quest lines. Basically picture a Cyrodiil only game but you only level from killing enemy players, defending , and taking keeps and objectives. All the PVE mobs are still there but they ONLY drop crafting materials for Crafters because Crafters make ALL the gear in the game as well as build every siege weapon and structure.

I cant wait!

Please don't picture Cyrodiil. You'd be doing Camelot an injustice. Cyrodiil is greatly flawed, hence the reason for the thread. I would like to believe the Camelot crew will have the wherewithal to not only avoid the many mistakes zenimax have fallen victim to, but also the skill to fix their mistakes in a timely manner. Again, something zenimax is falling short of.

The mistakes pointed out in this thread are not only widely repeated, but have been so ever since beta, when myself, and many others painstakingly articulated them in very long beta suggestions. On deaf ears sadly.

Isbilen · March 2015

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Preferred camps and blood porting, Now all day everyday its the same old crappy fights.

Chalman - Arrius express, every damn night for hours upon hours.

Gilvoth · March 2015

riverdragon72 wrote: »

scy22b14_ESO wrote: »

Why is Cyrodiil as large as it is? What's the point when there's no incentive to be anywhere but the front lines, at all times?

As it stands now, there's no reason whatsoever to roam around Cyrodiil.

Resource hunting for one, quests, caves, some out of the way place to get away from everybody. I see RP'rs at times from all factions off the beaten paths. Unfortunately PVP is a fail.

Darklord_Tiberius · March 2015

They need to do away with PvP servers and make one Cyrodiil. Cut it into 4 maps; Dominion Battlefront, Pact Battlefront, Covenant Battlefront and the Imperial City/outskirts and increase the size of each map x2. Until they actually encourage people to get off of one server the performance on said server will be horrendous. When you play in Cyrodiil, it doesn't even feel like it is connected to the game in ANY way, other than the "passive" buffs, how does this "Alliance War" map affect the world? It doesn't. Where is our faction leaders and champions when our side is getting stomped back to the gates? Where is the world interaction from all zones that should be affected by this "Alliance War"? There is none.

Until they add depth in Cyrodiil and they make the actual Cyrodiil map meaningful other than PvP ranks and passive buffs, this PvP structure will stay bad and always will be bad.

Oh and do not try to say IC will add back to PvP because who are we kidding? All Alliances have their own buff servers, they will all have free access to it and will not have to work for it. ZOS is doing such a bad job with PvP structure in this game it is sad. The worst part is, the actual Player verse Player is phenomenal.....

frozywozy · March 2015

scy22b14_ESO wrote: »

Why is Cyrodiil as large as it is? What's the point when there's no incentive to be anywhere but the front lines, at all times?

As it stands now, there's no reason whatsoever to roam around Cyrodiil. You're expected to be at specific points in between keeps, bashing your heads against one another ad nauseam. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with zerg vs zerg combat. It has it's place, and many people enjoy it.

Many do not. Give incentive to actually use the map given to us. Have you ever ran a scouting mission? Once you pass the front line, there isn't a soul to be seen for miles on end. There are ways to create smaller skirmishes around the map by giving a reason to be there.

1. Make questing hubs in cyrodiil give more CP/AP.
2. Make scouting missions actually worth the time spent doing them (CP / AP).
3. Make certain points of interest worth farming. Other games have done this by keeping track of certain MOBS, or locations, and giving more reward for farming spots that are generally less camped.
4. Bigger rewards for small scale combat.

Cyrodiil could be an amazing place. We just need a reason to actually use more of the terrain.

I disagree about spreading the population out of the front lines.

Before it would have worked, but nowadays? With the amount of players we get in Cyrodiil? No way this is going to increase PvP popularity. It will just encourage Pve-ers and AP farmers to grind some more. But it won't make the whole Cyrodiil war better.

Why? Because we simply don't have enough players 18hours a day to spread them all across Cyrodiil in other locations. During prime time it could work but we cannot build the game only according to 5hours a day. We have to make sure that Cyrodiil survives during the off hours aswell.

Off hours fights are already hard to find, no need to spread the few players we have even more. Wait until the game gets B2P and sees a considerable increase of popularity at least.

Draxys · March 2015

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Preferred camps and blood porting, Now all day everyday its the same old crappy fights.

Snit · March 2015

The size is perfect. It's meant to simulate widespread warfare across an entire region. It's not meant to be instant-action Warsong Gulch.

Invest in lots of apples.

Rune_Relic · March 2015

I think part of the problem is we have gone below critical mass.
On my server most of the time there is 3-4 people for the whole map...maybe 2 hours, 3 days a week when there is 30+.
Often the average number is more like 12 man group for 2 hours twice a day if you are on at the right time.

Resources need 3+ people to take down.
Keeps need 5+ people to take down.
That's without and enemy players.
If any enemy player show up we can forget it really.

So as when I log in there isn't even enough people to take resources...and I cant solo resources or keeps...what am I supposed to do ?

We need NPC soloable stuff [other than scouting/kills] that tick toward the campaign in the same way resources and keeps do.
They need to be challenging...but doable none the less.
These need to flag as well when under attack.
This let other people know where prey can be hunted too.
This draws PVP like moths to a flame....and also entices ganking squads to attend to those hunting parties that show up.

Sending forces to protect resources from the keep is one thing.
If they have to worry about other locations that aren't local and spread across the map to protect as well...it splits up forces and encourages small and large scale groups.
Larger groups are need for keeps.
Medium groups for resources.
Smaller/solo groups for the other assets.

Better than spamming LFG and getting no response or couple of V1s to try and take resource/keep