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Major Bug: Nirnhoned Weapons Allow You To Ignore 100% Of Enemy Spell Resist
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This bug has been in the game since release for 2h weapons with the sharpened trait, and now this same bug is on nirnhoned weapons. It makes spell resistance completely worthless, and allows massive 20k crystal frags and more. This should be patched and fixed immediately.
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✭Yes. Please get this fixed. If this stays as long as the sharpened bug it's going to ruin pvp again..1 -
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r.jan_emailb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭This has already been reported month ago, are you sure it is fixed for sharpened weapons?^I don't think it is.Lairgren | DC Dragonknight - August Palatine
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✭✭✭✭✭It's not 100% . It's a lot, but not 100%. If you ask me, it can stay
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Kevinmon✭✭✭✭Wow, this is a very big bug! It would be a travesty if it got onto the live servers!0 -
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✭Its a big bug, but has been in the game for almost a year. It was like this using sharpened 2h weapons, and now nirnhoned does it.Ali Dreadsabre -Necromancer
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✭Add it to the list of why this patch is no where near ready for live.Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
Disable abilities while holding block.
Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
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Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
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✭✭✭✭sabresandiego_ESO wrote: »Its a big bug, but has been in the game for almost a year. It was like this using sharpened 2h weapons, and now nirnhoned does it.
@sabresandiego_ESO This isn't true. Nirnhorned has been completely broken and inferior to sharpened since the release of the trait. I did extensive testing on spell penetration before I took my 3 month haitus after they nerfed sharpened.
In 1.6 they "Fixed" Nirnhorned to work the way it should be working but the *real* issue is the math behind their spell penetration is bugged and has been since release.
With enough spell penetration you can actually not only fully pierce spell resistance but you can somehow give your spells a *bonus* damage amount as well. To "Fix" sharpened they just jacked up the numbers and drastically lowered the benefit that it offers.
A legendary sword with 7% Spell penetration does not pierce more than a 2 hand staff with 6% penetration....it doesn't even pierce *close* to that. No 1 hand weapons apply penetration correctly with sharpened, you're almost better off not using it on a 1 hand. I tried using 2 1hand weapons with sharpened as well to the same effect, the numbers of penetration they provide are arbitrary.
In fact a base sharpened staff provides as much spell penetration as a legendary nirnhorned staff on live. I didn't have a nirnhorned 1 hand to do testing to see if it shares the same fault as sharpened on PTS.
On PTS using just a Nirnhorned staff and no other penetration will not give you 100% penetration. You need the light armor penetration buff or the apprentice mundus.
Edited by Ezareth on February 21, 2015 11:05PMPermanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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✭✭ezareth_ESO wrote: »the *real* issue is the math
I think it's pretty clear by now that ZOS sadly can't handle math. Their numbers, be it about damage, droprates or consistency between items/classes have always been full of errors.Edited by Gyudan on February 21, 2015 11:11PMWololo.1 -
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✭✭✭QuadroTony wrote: »dont care bout it
at least they do not nerf my sweety Snipe
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✭✭✭✭This is not a new bug .Its a known issue since launch ;/
Nirnhorned didn't exist at launch....and it is only "Bugged" in 1.6Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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Father✭✭✭Yea but sharpened was bugged at launch and at the launch of Nirn Horns it was bugged as well ;p0 -
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✭✭✭✭Yea but sharpened was bugged at launch and at the launch of Nirn Horns it was bugged as well ;p
Sharpened was bugged at launch yes, Nirnhorned was not. See my post above.
A Legendary Nirnhorned Staff on live right now provides *less* spell penetration than a normal sharpened staff.Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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✭✭✭✭So, is anyone able to confirm that this is happening on the PTS now?V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »So, is anyone able to confirm that this is happening on the PTS now?
Once again it isn't 100% penetration by itself, you need another source of penetration and then yes it fully penetrates (at least up to the 12K Spell ress that I tested).Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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✭✭✭✭✭ezareth_ESO wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »So, is anyone able to confirm that this is happening on the PTS now?
Once again it isn't 100% penetration by itself, you need another source of penetration and then yes it fully penetrates (at least up to the 12K Spell ress that I tested).
Well thats not enough most likely.
Without nirnhoned weapon i´ve been getting my tooltip dmg reduced by about 80%(only passive mitigation no block or anything active) against heavy armor 3600 champ point builds. If nirnhoned would atleast partially counter that it should stay as long as dmg mitigations this high are possible imho.<Noricum>
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✭✭✭✭ezareth_ESO wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »So, is anyone able to confirm that this is happening on the PTS now?
Once again it isn't 100% penetration by itself, you need another source of penetration and then yes it fully penetrates (at least up to the 12K Spell ress that I tested).
Well thats not enough most likely.
Without nirnhoned weapon i´ve been getting my tooltip dmg reduced by about 80%(only passive mitigation no block or anything active) against heavy armor 3600 champ point builds. If nirnhoned would atleast partially counter that it should stay as long as dmg mitigations this high are possible imho.
I doubt most people will be rocking too much more than 12K spell ress without various buffs. The person I tested with had two seperate armor buffs active when I was testing.
Either way I agree, someone with a Nirnhorned staff and other forms of spell penetration should be able to fully a certain amount of spell ress.
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QuadroTony✭✭✭✭✭QuadroTony wrote: »dont care bout it
at least they do not nerf my sweety Snipe
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AlcastClass RepresentativeQuadroTony wrote: »dont care bout it
at least they do not nerf my sweety Snipe
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glavius✭✭✭✭✭Nirnhoned completely ignores 30k resists. Only Thing it doesnt ignore is 20% pvp mitigation and champ resists which cant bedre penetrated at All.0
