Enodoc wrote: »

@LMar covered the major aspects quite well, as detailed in Wayshrines of Tamriel. They are built by the inhabitants of Tamriel as holy places of worship. It's an accident of circumstance that in ESO we can use them for fast-travel, due to the fact our souls have been unmoored from the Mundus. Wayshrines at UESP explains this a bit more.

So to answer the questions;

rogue_gamer32b14_ESO wrote: »

So can someone explain to me where these immersion break eye sores come from and why aren't they around in the series?

They came from regular people building ad-hoc sites of worship. They aren't around in the later games because they have fallen apart, like any structure that isn't maintained.

Thanks. Really it's just a matter of reading some books or comments. Things usually get explained in-game. Even the fact that Cyrodiil is supposed to be a jungle but it's not gets a mention in books. Now whether you agree or not is another matter!

Holycannoli wrote: »

Shunravi wrote: »

Holycannoli wrote: »

They don't fit into the whole lore. There never used to be mundus stones, we chose our constellation at character creation and it was permanent.

well, a rose by any other name...

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:The_Skaal_Test_of_Loyalty
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Standing_Stones

They didn't exist in Daggerfall and Morrowind and I consider those two games the superior TES games.

Translation: "I pick and choose what pieces of lore I consider to be valid, and then complain about anything that doesn't exist within those pieces of lore - even if it already exists in other lore that I've decided to ignore."

Also, you might note that some of the stones that @Shunravi pointed out as being essentially the same as mundus stones are from Bloodmoon. You know, the expansion to Morrowind (aka one of the games that you consider to be superior).

Orchish wrote: »

rogue_gamer32b14_ESO wrote: »

Wayshrines are all over the place. Yet in every Elder Scrolls game, they don't exist. I know in Skyrim Dawnguard DLC Wayshrines for the Forgotten Vale were introduced. However they were one time travel and useless after. They also didn't exist outside Forgotten Vale.

So can someone explain to me where these immersion break eye sores come from and why aren't they around in the series?

In Oblivion and Skyrim you can fast travel at any time from anywhere. How is ESO breaking immersion? At least in ESO you have to walk to wayshrine unless you want to pay gold. In Skyrim i just pull up my map and ping, teleported across the map to hand in my quest.

I miss the spells of mark and recall from Morrowind

I did find the wayshrines to be immersion breaking because I felt like most games would have explained why you could use gazebos to teleport, particularly since NPCs don't seem to acknowledge that wayshrines have this function. I'm glad to see they do have a random book addressing the topic, but it would have been better if this was addressed during play, particularly as it the book seems to imply that the vestige's use of wayshrines as transportation is entirely unprecedented and would represent a significant magical discovery.

I also would have preferred more mundane fast travel, preferably each with their own regional flavor (boats by water, silt striders in Morrowind, wagons in Skyrim, rootworms in Black Marsh etc.). I can't imagine they're likely to replace the wayshrines now, but it would be nice if they put silt striders in Vvardenfell, should they ever give us Vvardenfell (btw, please give us Vvardenfell).