Wayshrines where did they come from?

Surragard

You also never were in a situation in other TES games where you did not have a soul. That seems to be why the Wayshrines let you TP (I'm trying here with the lore). As far as why the structures themselves appear in no other games, maybe after the Molag Bal invasion is over everyone destroys them in a rage...or you could ask the History channel guy quoted above. He probably knows.

LMar

Enodoc wrote: »

@LMar covered the major aspects quite well, as detailed in Wayshrines of Tamriel. They are built by the inhabitants of Tamriel as holy places of worship. It's an accident of circumstance that in ESO we can use them for fast-travel, due to the fact our souls have been unmoored from the Mundus. Wayshrines at UESP explains this a bit more.

So to answer the questions;

rogue_gamer32b14_ESO wrote: »

So can someone explain to me where these immersion break eye sores come from and why aren't they around in the series?

They came from regular people building ad-hoc sites of worship. They aren't around in the later games because they have fallen apart, like any structure that isn't maintained.

Thanks. Really it's just a matter of reading some books or comments. Things usually get explained in-game. Even the fact that Cyrodiil is supposed to be a jungle but it's not gets a mention in books. Now whether you agree or not is another matter!

Shunravi

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

Wayshrines actually exist in ES IV : Oblivion. They are spread out in Cyrodiil and are devoted to the Divines... they just added the teleportation use of it.

I'm not 100%, but I think I have seen broken down wayshrines in Cyrodill near the sites of the Akatosh and Dibella shrines in oblivion...

They could even be the ones from inside the keeps. Julianos' shrine seems to be the site of Sejanus, and Talos; Alessia

I will see if I can confirm later.

UrQuan

Holycannoli wrote: »

Shunravi wrote: »

Holycannoli wrote: »

They don't fit into the whole lore. There never used to be mundus stones, we chose our constellation at character creation and it was permanent.

well, a rose by any other name...

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:The_Skaal_Test_of_Loyalty
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Standing_Stones

They didn't exist in Daggerfall and Morrowind and I consider those two games the superior TES games.

Translation: "I pick and choose what pieces of lore I consider to be valid, and then complain about anything that doesn't exist within those pieces of lore - even if it already exists in other lore that I've decided to ignore."

Also, you might note that some of the stones that @Shunravi pointed out as being essentially the same as mundus stones are from Bloodmoon. You know, the expansion to Morrowind (aka one of the games that you consider to be superior).

Orchish

rogue_gamer32b14_ESO wrote: »

Wayshrines are all over the place. Yet in every Elder Scrolls game, they don't exist. I know in Skyrim Dawnguard DLC Wayshrines for the Forgotten Vale were introduced. However they were one time travel and useless after. They also didn't exist outside Forgotten Vale.

So can someone explain to me where these immersion break eye sores come from and why aren't they around in the series?

In Oblivion and Skyrim you can fast travel at any time from anywhere. How is ESO breaking immersion? At least in ESO you have to walk to wayshrine unless you want to pay gold. In Skyrim i just pull up my map and ping, teleported across the map to hand in my quest.

Iago

Orchish wrote: »

rogue_gamer32b14_ESO wrote: »

Wayshrines are all over the place. Yet in every Elder Scrolls game, they don't exist. I know in Skyrim Dawnguard DLC Wayshrines for the Forgotten Vale were introduced. However they were one time travel and useless after. They also didn't exist outside Forgotten Vale.

So can someone explain to me where these immersion break eye sores come from and why aren't they around in the series?

In Oblivion and Skyrim you can fast travel at any time from anywhere. How is ESO breaking immersion? At least in ESO you have to walk to wayshrine unless you want to pay gold. In Skyrim i just pull up my map and ping, teleported across the map to hand in my quest.

I miss the spells of mark and recall from Morrowind

Orchish

Iago wrote: »

Orchish wrote: »

rogue_gamer32b14_ESO wrote: »

Wayshrines are all over the place. Yet in every Elder Scrolls game, they don't exist. I know in Skyrim Dawnguard DLC Wayshrines for the Forgotten Vale were introduced. However they were one time travel and useless after. They also didn't exist outside Forgotten Vale.

So can someone explain to me where these immersion break eye sores come from and why aren't they around in the series?

In Oblivion and Skyrim you can fast travel at any time from anywhere. How is ESO breaking immersion? At least in ESO you have to walk to wayshrine unless you want to pay gold. In Skyrim i just pull up my map and ping, teleported across the map to hand in my quest.

I miss the spells of mark and recall from Morrowind

Those were the days.

Gehennan

I did find the wayshrines to be immersion breaking because I felt like most games would have explained why you could use gazebos to teleport, particularly since NPCs don't seem to acknowledge that wayshrines have this function. I'm glad to see they do have a random book addressing the topic, but it would have been better if this was addressed during play, particularly as it the book seems to imply that the vestige's use of wayshrines as transportation is entirely unprecedented and would represent a significant magical discovery.

I also would have preferred more mundane fast travel, preferably each with their own regional flavor (boats by water, silt striders in Morrowind, wagons in Skyrim, rootworms in Black Marsh etc.). I can't imagine they're likely to replace the wayshrines now, but it would be nice if they put silt striders in Vvardenfell, should they ever give us Vvardenfell (btw, please give us Vvardenfell).

Moonscythe

rogue_gamer32b14_ESO wrote: »

Iago wrote: »

I am guessing that they are left over Ayleid relics that were destroyed and forgotten about by the time the events of Oblivion takes place.

Not possible...they were not in Morrowind, Arena, or Daggerfall games. All came before Oblivion.

I didn't play arena or daggerfall but in Morrowind, there are no Ayleid ruins. Dwemer ruins yes, but those aren't in Cyrodil, Ayleid ruins no but those aren't in Skyrim. The only points of congruence is Cyrodil and Skyrim since the bits of Morrowind we see in ESO were not the bits in Morrowind TES. So, does that mean they can't be Ayleid because there are no Ayleid ruins in Skyrim? Now I'm confused. The Wayshrines look kind of flimsy so maybe they just fell down in the intervening centuries.