This ^ coupled with health nerf for all players and nerf on light armour sets means my sorc has less health,less armour and minimal to no effective way of healing myself.

they should just ditch daedric summoning for necromancy and be done with the lore disaster of a tree. We could have actual life leach magic and/or pets that aren't pokemon's n statues.

pppontus wrote: »

All classes have had AOE survivability nerfed. You are not supposed to be able to gather 24 enemies and solomurder them while healing yourself for 50K a second

That part seems about right, actually.

Pulling 24 enemies is a death sentence unless you out level and gear them at which point you might last a little bit longer before they kill you. I have also never seen a 50k second heal. The whole idea of critical surge was to give sorcerers a steady heal they could use while dishing out damage and being mobile.

All this change did was effectively say only Stamina Sorcerers will benefit from the crit healing with Bow and melee attacks. While flipping off Magicka based ones.

pppontus wrote: »

All classes have had AOE survivability nerfed. You are not supposed to be able to gather 24 enemies and solomurder them while healing yourself for 50K a second

That part seems about right, actually.

You shouldn't be forced to leave out all small damage ticks so they dont eat up your heal and you were never able to tank a whole raid in PvP with surge since the 0 ult Batswarm.
On live I can make a crit AoE build, gather as many mobs as possible and bring them down with crit surge, Firering, Clouding Swarm and eventually Evil Hunter.
gives me about 2k hps then.
Absorbtion field in PvP pre 1.6 gives you over 4k hps for the group if some noob spamms effects inside.

Surge is not even comparable to your 50k if you multiply it with 10 for 1.6 .
Also, Surge doesnt give you a higher buff on Impulse than anything else in the game anymore, especially not Critical Surge.

Other classes still have mechanics to deal with many enemies to close around them:
Draw Essence, Sap Essence, Blazing Shield, to name their imo most important skills for this. Sorc had Critical Surge... now it's completely useless besides for a stamina build that relies on burst damage aka 2 hand. Bow and dual wield apply dots that eat up the heal.

I literally just made a post about constructive new ways to address Surge in 1.6 so I'm just going to copy/paste the address here. If you have input specifically on my list, I would prefer you comment in my post so I'll see it.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/148958/zos-1-6-critical-surge-alternate-suggestions

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Surge
This ability now applies the Major Brutality buff.
Power Surge: This ability now applies the Major Brutality and Major Sorcery buffs.
Critical Surge: This ability now has a one second cooldown on the heal.

One second cooldown makes this heal totally unreliable; if you have any sort of aoe damage or dot that crits, consider this heal wasted. Since there's also a blatant reason behind the nerf (super fantabulous never ending mega heals), I would like to propose some alternate/additional ways to apply Critical Surges heals.

If Critical Surge must have a one second cooldown:
1. put a minimum damage gate behind the heal proc to prioritize larger hits.
2. check damage output over that 1 second and award a heal based on that (with or without a cap on heal strength).
3. change the heal to grant any resource at a higher reward % (aiming at lowest resource pool)
4. instead of proccing for heals, proc for more damage (it is lightning after all)
5. Change the cooldown behavior to wait 0.1 seconds before applying a cooldown to the remaining 0.9 seconds to allow all simultaneous crits to proc (to be aoe/cleave friendly)

If the one second cooldown it temporary for testing reasons (suggestions based on 1.5 Surge):
6. simply reduce the cooldown itself, previously heal procs were going off almost nonestop so even a 0.2 second delay would give it some dampening.
7. reduce the damage % checked for heal
8. only allow heal procs when below x% of max health
9. change Critical Surge to choose random attacks that will receive the bonus damage buff (hopefully higher than 20%) and have those attacks apply the heal
10. give this heal, as it is now, to Power Surge (on top of both damage buffs)

If it turns out to still be too much, change the proc to look at a different % chance instead of crit % chance (I have 56% on live wearing crafted gear, I get all the heals)

Each of these is supposed to work by itself on top of either the 1.5 or 1.6 Surge