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Exploits that need addressed ZOS

  • Grim13
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    Columba wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    There's an EP player on Thorn NA right now who is magically capable of going invisible regardless of multiple people using detect pots while standing on top of him... he also ceases taking any damage at around 4% health.

    Mist form exploit?

    I'd thought so at first due to the similarities to the mist form exploit... but I've never seen someone capable of disappearing in the midst of a group while several were using detect pots.

    Maybe it's a new one.

    I was hunting this guy after it first happened... and he managed to disappear in front of me, both before and after I'd used a detect potion, and he was still invisible.

    I'm tempted to call it a hack, tbh.
    Edited by Grim13 on January 23, 2015 10:18AM
  • Grim13
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Columba wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    There's an EP player on Thorn NA right now who is magically capable of going invisible regardless of multiple people using detect pots while standing on top of him... he also ceases taking any damage at around 4% health.

    Mist form exploit?

    I'd thought so at first due to the similarities to the mist form exploit... but I've never seen someone capable of disappearing in the midst of a group while several were using detect pots.

    Maybe it's a new one.

    I was hunting this guy after it first happened... and he managed to disappear in front of me, both before and after I'd used a detect potion, and he was still invisible.

    I'm tempted to call it a hack, tbh.

    There is a definite exploit or hack at work. They've found a way to go into hide/stealth regardless of people using detect pots while standing right on top of them.

    Several DC, whom all run in the same gank squad, are currently using it. I've forwarded their names to ZOS... let's just hope they actually do something about it.

  • Columba
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    Hmm I spam cloak and can usually escape, but I don't stick around.
  • Bouvin
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Columba wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    There's an EP player on Thorn NA right now who is magically capable of going invisible regardless of multiple people using detect pots while standing on top of him... he also ceases taking any damage at around 4% health.

    Mist form exploit?

    I'd thought so at first due to the similarities to the mist form exploit... but I've never seen someone capable of disappearing in the midst of a group while several were using detect pots.

    Maybe it's a new one.

    I was hunting this guy after it first happened... and he managed to disappear in front of me, both before and after I'd used a detect potion, and he was still invisible.

    I'm tempted to call it a hack, tbh.

    There is a definite exploit or hack at work. They've found a way to go into hide/stealth regardless of people using detect pots while standing right on top of them.

    Several DC, whom all run in the same gank squad, are currently using it. I've forwarded their names to ZOS... let's just hope they actually do something about it.

    They aren't using shadow image are they?

    It instantly ports you back to the shade.

    I drop a shade on top of rocks, or in buildings all the time then port back to it. To other players it probably looks like I'm disappearing or going invis, but I'm really just porting to where they can't see me.

    Also, there are armor sets and skills that kick in under 20% health, and with mist form could really look like you aren't taking damage.
  • Bouvin
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    yodased wrote: »
    Something I've noticed lately in my short time in Haderus:

    There are certain groups that continually do shady things. I will go hours and hours and hours without any stun locks, and issues, no lag nothing.

    Then these people come by me and all of those things happen.

    Coincidence?

    There is a very certain player on NA thorn that any time I get near I will lag out, and almost always crash.

    No naming names.. but it is really fishy. Also, lag seems to follow his group..so there seems to be something going on there. Like they've figured out how to trigger it.

    Considering people were crashing the servers to dupe for the first few months, it wouldn't surprise me if lag exploits still exist.
  • Galalin
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    Elvis has left the building.... last seen headed towards Burger King.

    Although i have had some stealthers get away seemingly just gone... invis pot and all but honestly i chalk it up to shades.... i know i would abuse they hell out of it

    DK SCRUB OUT
    Edited by Galalin on January 26, 2015 6:41AM
  • Tankqull
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    Armitas wrote: »
    Got a question about the macroing to rehash. It was my understanding that macroing will not increase your ability speed. However I recently spoke to an anonymous person and he said he could macro a skill and empty his magicka in 1.5seconds. As it was described to me in one visible instance of a skill animation something like 5 instances of it occurred. As described to me by the player this is only done via macroing and nothing more, and since we know certain skills have a hard CD, is it possible that some skills failed to have a CD applied to them. I don't understand how it's possible through macroing alone as spamming a skill will not allow this to occur, but I have no reason to doubt the players ability to verify his own experience that what was said is occurring.

    Animation canceling can lead to higher dps and damage weaving, however it is difficult to form reliable macros because of the action requests being handled on the server side, rather client side. With other factors like lag, player/npcs, and visual/audio queues; traditional macros aren't as reliable as a skilled animation canceler. That said, there are other methods I could see that could be quicker, but you'd risk a pretty swift ban I'd imagine if ZOS caught something so obvious

    As for cooldowns, there are none inside ESO, which is one of the features it, but there are cast times for attacks and abilities that animation canceling will work with. Long charge abilities, like snipe and uppercut, can be animation canceled, but you risk the ability not going off at all and bashing if you do. If they are losing all their resources that quick the are probably using a quick cast ability, like poison injection + light attack or crushing shock/impulse + light attacks

    play a templar and comback deleting that BS on your own.
    Edited by Tankqull on January 26, 2015 9:23AM
    spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused

    Sallington wrote: »
    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"


  • Kromus
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    Armitas wrote: »
    Columba wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Certain Templar abilities are still causing stunlock.

    yeah, not sure which those skill are, but i get perma stuck sometimes.

    Biting jabs and blazing spear.

    Not true. You can break-free and gain immunity from it in normal situations so its not ability issue. However, it is possible in zerg/lag situation like with many other skills.
  • Kromus
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    As for cooldowns, there are none inside ESO, which is one of the features it, but there are cast times for attacks and abilities that animation canceling will work with.

    Not true. Currently there are five abilities with GCD in place that I know of and three of those are Templar abilities, with Toppling/Explosive charge being most notable and visible.
  • The_Death_Princess
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    Mist Form issue. While the invisible function does exist out in the cheater forums/websites, I am not certain it works in ESO. Personally as you can see from my Sig, my Vid set up allows me to see ALL effects in high detail. All things suggested here have some very minor graphic effect associated. I track all these forms often, and I am sure players get P/O that I track them so easily when they are used to getting away with lower graphics users.

    I can say every great once in awhile I say wth did that guy go... but wont call it an exploit til I see a pattern.
    Edited by The_Death_Princess on January 28, 2015 2:00AM
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