E R P
Don't ask, don't tell.
I just can't believe its that many . Honestly on the DC side I'm lucky to see 75 people actively engaging combat hot spots .
E R P
Don't ask, don't tell.
I just can't believe its that many . Honestly on the DC side I'm lucky to see 75 people actively engaging combat hot spots .
I noticed this last night, especially. All 3 factions were locked... yet, it appeared as if only AD were active.
Where were the DC and EP!?
EP showed up later in the evening... but all DC seemed to muster were a few failed attempts to retake Ash.
Odd.
E R P
Don't ask, don't tell.
I just can't believe its that many . Honestly on the DC side I'm lucky to see 75 people actively engaging combat hot spots .
I noticed this last night, especially. All 3 factions were locked... yet, it appeared as if only AD were active.
Where were the DC and EP!?
EP showed up later in the evening... but all DC seemed to muster were a few failed attempts to retake Ash.
Odd.
Its a big zone...
E R P
Don't ask, don't tell.
I just can't believe its that many . Honestly on the DC side I'm lucky to see 75 people actively engaging combat hot spots .
I noticed this last night, especially. All 3 factions were locked... yet, it appeared as if only AD were active.
Where were the DC and EP!?
EP showed up later in the evening... but all DC seemed to muster were a few failed attempts to retake Ash.
Odd.
Its a big zone...
Love the observation bias on multiple levels in this thread about entirely different things.
Long story short: Everyone thinks their side is outnumbered and isn't the zerging realm, everyone thinks in a certain fight they wiped 100 while only having 8 and are clearly pro (when this is most likely not true), everyone thinks while the measure for being at pop cap is there... no way it could be right because of what my limited observation of just the small area around me tells me.
E R P
Don't ask, don't tell.
I just can't believe its that many . Honestly on the DC side I'm lucky to see 75 people actively engaging combat hot spots .
I noticed this last night, especially. All 3 factions were locked... yet, it appeared as if only AD were active.
Where were the DC and EP!?
EP showed up later in the evening... but all DC seemed to muster were a few failed attempts to retake Ash.
Odd.
Its a big zone...
Love the observation bias on multiple levels in this thread about entirely different things.
Long story short: Everyone thinks their side is outnumbered and isn't the zerging realm, everyone thinks in a certain fight they wiped 100 while only having 8 and are clearly pro (when this is most likely not true), everyone thinks while the measure for being at pop cap is there... no way it could be right because of what my limited observation of just the small area around me tells me.
E R P
Don't ask, don't tell.
I just can't believe its that many . Honestly on the DC side I'm lucky to see 75 people actively engaging combat hot spots .
I noticed this last night, especially. All 3 factions were locked... yet, it appeared as if only AD were active.
Where were the DC and EP!?
EP showed up later in the evening... but all DC seemed to muster were a few failed attempts to retake Ash.
Odd.
Its a big zone...
Love the observation bias on multiple levels in this thread about entirely different things.
Long story short: Everyone thinks their side is outnumbered and isn't the zerging realm, everyone thinks in a certain fight they wiped 100 while only having 8 and are clearly pro (when this is most likely not true), everyone thinks while the measure for being at pop cap is there... no way it could be right because of what my limited observation of just the small area around me tells me.
Your entire comment is observation bias... and redundant.
Its observation bias when you take what your observation is as fact. Its not, plenty of factors. In addition, thinking the other side has more because people are notoriously bad at counting populations (in real life or in game) is actually a well known/documented observation bias. Thats not even taking into account peoples' cognitive dissonance to exaggerate their wins and downplay their losses (using enemy size as the way to twist things) as to make themselves feel better. Several people in this thread have posed contrary opinions on numbers for the exact same fight... thats damn near classic observation bias from each side where likely the numbers were very different.
As for what I want to share with the group... I just did... in the previous post? So... yeah that didn't make any sense either.
I noticed this last night, especially. All 3 factions were locked... yet, it appeared as if only AD were active.
Its observation bias when you take what your observation is as fact. Its not, plenty of factors. In addition, thinking the other side has more because people are notoriously bad at counting populations (in real life or in game) is actually a well known/documented observation bias. Several people in this thread have posed contrary opinions on numbers for the exact same fight... thats damn near classic observation bias from each side where likely the numbers were very different.
As for what I want to share with the group... I just did... in the previous post? So... yeah that didn't make any sense either.
Its observation bias when you take what your observation is as fact. Its not, plenty of factors. In addition, thinking the other side has more because people are notoriously bad at counting populations (in real life or in game) is actually a well known/documented observation bias. Thats not even taking into account peoples' cognitive dissonance to exaggerate their wins and downplay their losses (using enemy size as the way to twist things) as to make themselves feel better. Several people in this thread have posed contrary opinions on numbers for the exact same fight... thats damn near classic observation bias from each side where likely the numbers were very different.
As for what I want to share with the group... I just did... in the previous post? So... yeah that didn't make any sense either.I noticed this last night, especially. All 3 factions were locked... yet, it appeared as if only AD were active.
LonePirate wrote: »
I know where most people are . I just honestly don't think there's 200 of them any where in Cyrodiil at any time . Maybe 100 but not 200
ShadoPanauin wrote: »"not very good" we have the only general+ players in the game.
Every faction has a ton of people who rolled DK as FotM for pvp. See flappity-flap spammed by all three sides and shield charge used by all three sides. Even get tells from DKs in AD who die to my NB, complaining that everyone is against DKs and that's why they're getting changed...All three sides have their pulsar spamming zergs.
LonePirate wrote: »
I know where most people are . I just honestly don't think there's 200 of them any where in Cyrodiil at any time . Maybe 100 but not 200
There was this magical time, when seeing four to six full raids (yes 100-150 people) mount up at roebeck to push nikel was common. And they would meet a similar sized force when they got there and youd have 200 people fighting over the outpost and the grounds around it. Lag was virtually nonexistent, though the group glitch and systemic crashing were problems for some.
Those... were epic days.


Lord_Draevan wrote: »To address the comments along the lines of "AD always wins when it's 3-way pop locked, EP/DC always loses":
Odd... 3-way pop locked, AD not winning, EP and DC not losing. Huh. Fancy that.
Point being, no side consistently wins or loses during prime time. It varies from day to day, week to week.
I wonder how other factions would have responded.
Lord_Draevan wrote: »I wonder how other factions would have responded.
I'm certain EP would have argued a lot in zone, each armchair general thinking their tactic would be the only one that could succeed, and a bunch of small groups would have run off and each failed
Don't know how it is in DC or AD, but EP is pretty divided on what we should do most of the time. Only time we seem to work as one is when we've been driven back to either Farragut/Kingscrest, or lost all of our keeps.
After that... lots of arguing. Honestly I don't know how we've won Thornblade 4 times in a row, or whatever it is now.
Lord_Draevan wrote: »I'm certain EP would have argued a lot in zone, each armchair general thinking their tactic would be the only one that could succeed, and a bunch of small groups would have run off and each failed
Lord_Draevan wrote: »To address the comments along the lines of "AD always wins when it's 3-way pop locked, EP/DC always loses":
Odd... 3-way pop locked, AD not winning, EP and DC not losing. Huh. Fancy that.
Point being, no side consistently wins or loses during prime time. It varies from day to day, week to week.
Too soon man. If you had waited a little longer we would have taken ash & BRK, Drake and Brindle. Even took Chalman and made an emp push. Of course, the emp push came after having 4 keeps lit at the same time as we lost Faregyl. That purple push only resulted in us losing Ash and retaking Faregyl though. I wonder how other factions would have responded.
Lord_Draevan wrote: »I'm certain EP would have argued a lot in zone, each armchair general thinking their tactic would be the only one that could succeed, and a bunch of small groups would have run off and each failed
umm.. wrong. At least, when our group has 8 or more people, we roll keeps. No point in arguing, just let someone else type while we are fighting.
Lord_Draevan wrote: »I'm certain EP would have argued a lot in zone, each armchair general thinking their tactic would be the only one that could succeed, and a bunch of small groups would have run off and each failed
umm.. wrong. At least, when our group has 8 or more people, we roll keeps. No point in arguing, just let someone else type while we are fighting.
ShadoPanauin wrote: »"not very good" we have the only general+ players in the game.
Lord_Draevan wrote: »I'm certain EP would have argued a lot in zone, each armchair general thinking their tactic would be the only one that could succeed, and a bunch of small groups would have run off and each failed
umm.. wrong. At least, when our group has 8 or more people, we roll keeps. No point in arguing, just let someone else type while we are fighting.
Nobody on EP rolls anything with 8. 30 is the bare minimum for EP to beat anyone organized.
Lord_Draevan wrote: »To address the comments along the lines of "AD always wins when it's 3-way pop locked, EP/DC always loses":
Odd... 3-way pop locked, AD not winning, EP and DC not losing. Huh. Fancy that.
Point being, no side consistently wins or loses during prime time. It varies from day to day, week to week.
Too soon man. If you had waited a little longer we would have taken ash & BRK, Drake and Brindle. Even took Chalman and made an emp push. Of course, the emp push came after having 4 keeps lit at the same time as we lost Faregyl. That purple push only resulted in us losing Ash and retaking Faregyl though. I wonder how other factions would have responded.
Just to clarify, if you base your observations only on the last week, it is not very accurate. Imperator Rebelium has not been running a decent group at primetime for the past 4 days so believe it or not, it does a huge impact on EP's overall success. They do work!
Lord_Draevan wrote: »I'm certain EP would have argued a lot in zone, each armchair general thinking their tactic would be the only one that could succeed, and a bunch of small groups would have run off and each failed
umm.. wrong. At least, when our group has 8 or more people, we roll keeps. No point in arguing, just let someone else type while we are fighting.
Nobody on EP rolls anything with 8. 30 is the bare minimum for EP to beat anyone organized.
LonePirate wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »I'm certain EP would have argued a lot in zone, each armchair general thinking their tactic would be the only one that could succeed, and a bunch of small groups would have run off and each failed
umm.. wrong. At least, when our group has 8 or more people, we roll keeps. No point in arguing, just let someone else type while we are fighting.
Nobody on EP rolls anything with 8. 30 is the bare minimum for EP to beat anyone organized.
Considering how AD rarely attacks or defends a keep with fewer than 60 players, that sounds like a fair fight to me.
Wait. Scratch that. 20 EP vs. 60 AD is a much more balanced and fair fight as AD has a sporting chance then.

Lord_Draevan wrote: »To address the comments along the lines of "AD always wins when it's 3-way pop locked, EP/DC always loses":
Odd... 3-way pop locked, AD not winning, EP and DC not losing. Huh. Fancy that.
Point being, no side consistently wins or loses during prime time. It varies from day to day, week to week.
Too soon man. If you had waited a little longer we would have taken ash & BRK, Drake and Brindle. Even took Chalman and made an emp push. Of course, the emp push came after having 4 keeps lit at the same time as we lost Faregyl. That purple push only resulted in us losing Ash and retaking Faregyl though. I wonder how other factions would have responded.
Just to clarify, if you base your observations only on the last week, it is not very accurate. Imperator Rebelium has not been running a decent group at primetime for the past 4 days so believe it or not, it does a huge impact on EP's overall success. They do work!
It's not like we don't have the same problems. A lot of times AD guilds end up merging groups because we only have like 8-10 players in each group.
Havoc 10men groupLord_Draevan wrote: »I'm certain EP would have argued a lot in zone, each armchair general thinking their tactic would be the only one that could succeed, and a bunch of small groups would have run off and each failed
umm.. wrong. At least, when our group has 8 or more people, we roll keeps. No point in arguing, just let someone else type while we are fighting.
Nobody on EP rolls anything with 8. 30 is the bare minimum for EP to beat anyone organized.
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