NA vs EU, Legend vs Arena, Mage vs Sypher, Sorcerer vs DK/NB - My Experience (long post)

LegendaryMage · January 2015

Hi all and thanks for dropping by here!

As some of you might already know, Ali (@Sypher) has recently done something that I have wanted to do for a long time, and that is to go on the other megaserver and test the dueling community over there too. For that, he will always have my respect!

I have been approached by many people in-game asking me about all things dueling, one of the most popular recent topics being Sypher vs Mage (me) and what really happened and why. Instead of just answering everyone individually what I think, I will just point them to this thread and be done with it. Plus, it will hopefully open room for more constructive feedback by other people and I hope we'll all have fun discussing not only the matches Sypher and me had, but the current dueling scene as well.

This is what we do, what we like, for various reasons. To me personally, I just love fair matches (as much as that is possible) and good sportsmanship. Some of the best fights I've had were 1v1 duels and some of the most dynamic and interesting ones were with none other but Ali.

Prior to meeting and fighting Sypher, I was under the impression that he was just another 'above average' dueler and a good player in general. I have tried to participate in the recent 'melee' PTS tournament but was unable due to technical issues and I have watched him fight there and getting his behind handed to him in less than 15 seconds, both matches. I didn't know the full circumstances until he explained to me, and after he did, I felt very bad that he even entered competition under such handicaps. The fact that he did, shows me how brave and persistent the guy is. And optimistic too.

We have had a lot of 'exibition' matches what I would call them, which still means competitive matches but not really 100% due to 3 things mainly;

1) His NB wasn't supplied well so he could never be 100% due to this. This means potion usage, gear and enchants etc. he's used to. Of course, he tried to come back to his old setup as much as possible but if I had to guess, it wasn't 100% probably.

2) Ping might gimp him sometimes, I know how annoying this can be and those matches can't be considered valid no matter what. The other opponent can react faster and when similarly skilled players are dueling, this means the difference between life and death. 1 bad moment is enough to land you in trouble, beyond the point of no return.

3) Broken game mechanics. While I do try to avoid these constantly and try not to develop a bad habit of using them, these happen sometimes. This is however a huge handicap for my setup as well. My main offensive spell (crushing shock) does not interrupt weapon heavy attacks and forces me to play differently in order to try and deny the opponent these extra resources.

This would have been especially helpful for me vs NBs such as Sypher because I could just stand behind in range and interrupt every single heavy attack they launch at me without having to use streak multiple times (when you're just half a meter short of interrupting ironically) and wasting a lot of magicka in the process. Sypher is very good at creating distance and keeping his opponent snared, this is why proper crushing shock would be so helpful.

Not to mention immovable and cc immunity which renders me useless even with streak. Crushing shock used to interrupt (without stuns) these attacks no matter what, now it simply doesn't and it makes my life 100% harder against NBs, Sorcs or Templars who are good at maneuvering and recharging resources.

The current score is 1-1 for Sorc vs NB. To be fair to myself, I can't remember if I used pots in the 2nd fight that I lost, I might have only had 4-5 left and though it's no excuse, Sypher knows there's no way for me to win without these, my sustain isn't THAT good when I'm constantly under pressure and forced to defend without potions to get me out of trouble. Sypher and me need at least 30-40 pots for a single fight if I had to make a guess.

3rd/4th fight on that day was/were stopped because we had a lot of lags and it was just impossible for me to even pull off my basic lightattack/shock rotation (I would always cast shock and miss out on a lot of dmg each time, 250+ and utility benefits such as more magicka gain from my other spells). 6-7 casts and I'm missing 1k+ dmg at least and being 'annoyed' I can't do it at all.

At that time I tried to move all duelers to a different campaign other than pop-locked Azura but nobody listened sadly.

The Nord DK fights I never took seriously due to the Dk not being 100%, I fought him on the Dk to see how good he is even though I knew he could be much better. And he was pretty good. I can tell a smart player when I see one, and though he says he's better on the DK, to me personally I think it will be harder to fight him on the NB. Maybe it's just my own personal preference, I feel like DKs are missing out a bit in the dps department (don't buff them of course!) when they fight me and most simply can't finish me off even when they do get me in trouble. If crushing shock was fixed (and that horrible broken game mechanic), then I think I might have easier time with NBs and much easier time with Sorcs/Templars.

So for all of you who know me, or don't, I hope my opinion counts and here is my 100% honest review of @Sypher.

- He is definitely one of the top duelers around and I hope he'll be back soon so we can have a bit more matches before 1.6 lands and we all go back to the drawing board.

- NB stronger than DK in 1v1 (for me at least), I don't feel like Dark Elf Dk would do much better against me even though he would perform better for sure, it would have slightly higher damage but not enough in my opinion. Even if he had 10% more dmg on dark elf dk, he would have to do like 50K dmg to me before that advantage starts to show and I notice it. The fire resistance doesn't bother me, I'm mostly shock dmg myself. Unless he changes glyphs and things like that. I go with the NB for now until my offense is fixed.

- Smart player, able to adapt and change on the fly. He might not be the best dueler ever, but tbh I don't think there is one, however he can certainly kill 'anyone' which is a feature top duelers have in common. I don't think any of us more common duelers is 'best', I think we can all kill each other, some more often than others, but everyone dies, believe that. There is no player in this game who can go 1000 matches undefeated against other top duelers. There just isn't... Mistakes will happen, even under 100% top technical performance.

Sypher, I'm curious to see your side of the story and experience, I think we had a lot of fun basically and I would gladly do it again, but not at 5am again pls, maybe you could get up earlier one day and we could go somewhere private for 2-3 hours and just duke it out like we did. I hope you had as much fun as I did.

I can promise you a fair match without any 'exploits' or broken game mechanic uses, so it'll be like they never broken anything in this game, that's the least I can do.

I apologize for the length of this post, you have been warned though.

Soulac · January 2015

Same for our fight, NB vs NB.
The difference between Cat and Imperial, between Bash Cancel and normal light attack cancel was noticeable.

I fought many players, probably even more than our lovely Mage and I can't remember many fights like that.

Well our first fight was kinda crap, I didn't expect a good player and played kinda chilled.
Our second fight was quit longer with very close moments, but near the end, the combination of better race and animation cancel was enough to kill me again, epic fight!
We stopped our third fight after we both ran out of potions.
The fights after that I didn't take really serious, they weren't at 100% and not that long.
Wins, loses, close moments on both sides.
As far I can tell, Sypher is able to hold pressure, more than most other NB, in combination to that he know what to do in close situations. In addition to that his movement is great and the animation cancel quit flawless.
After these few fights I totally count him to the top duelers.

The last days I tried bash cancel and trained it in many duels, hopefully we meet again for a fair fight!

Ps: can't tell anything about his DK, didn't fought him, but as vampire I'm not rly motivated to do haha.

Araxleon · January 2015

I will be visiting EU, I hope the ping wont be horrible x_x
I wanted to see some fellow skilled duelers and visit some friends that left NA.
cant wait to face off against fellow nightblades

Sotha_Sil · January 2015

TL;DR missing !!

I'm just going to ask a simple question : you dueled someone, you had a great time but... who cares ? We duel people everyday so what. If Cyrodiil was a 1vs1 arena we would know... (maybe it has become one).

Araxleon · January 2015

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

TL;DR missing !!

I'm just going to ask a simple question : you dueled someone, you had a great time but... who cares ? We duel people everyday so what.

Because it was a NA vs EU kinda duel (sorta)
between 2 skilled players.

LegendaryMage · January 2015

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

TL;DR missing !!

I'm just going to ask a simple question : you dueled someone, you had a great time but... who cares ? We duel people everyday so what. If Cyrodiil was a 1vs1 arena we would know... (maybe it has become one).

And I will give you a simple answer. Read the first few paragraphs if it's too long for you.

Mojomonkeyman · January 2015

As much as your summary is appreciated by many, me included, I don`t like that you basically wove in some issues about game mechanics, which might be your opinion, but are not commonly considered as "not working properly".

I consider crushing shock already effing strong for its cost, for being a spammable burst skill, applying a dot, synergizing with disintegrate and so on...

It`s the definition of an easymode skill.

You want it to basically interrupt with every single application? Burst + Dmg + Dot with just spamming it and complaining about "having to streak" from time to time? Interrupts should never come for free, it should require extra clicks...

You know, I totally respect you as a player, but that logic of yours won`t ever go into my head, sorry.

Soulac · January 2015

Araxleon wrote: »

I will be visiting EU, I hope the ping wont be horrible x_x
I wanted to see some fellow skilled duelers and visit some friends that left NA.
cant wait to face off against fellow nightblades

Well the ping for us is not good either.
I live very near to the server and got a ping of 150..

I would like to fight you and want to see your playstyle with a similar build like mine!

If you want to fight Mage and me don't join AD, that's all, haha.

LegendaryMage · January 2015

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

As much as your summary is appreciated by many, me included, I don`t like that you basically wove in some issues about game mechanics, which might be your opinion, but are not commonly considered as "not working properly".

I consider crushing shock already effing strong for its cost, for being a spammable burst skill, applying a dot, synergizing with disintegrate and so on...

It`s the definition of an easymode skill.

You want it to basically interrupt with every single application? Burst + Dmg + Dot with just spamming it and complaining about "having to streak" from time to time? Interrupts should never come for free, it should require extra clicks...

You know, I totally respect you as a player, but that logic of yours won`t ever go into my head, sorry.

This is a broken game mechanic, crushing shock does work as intended but it does not interrupt heavy attacks just as ANYTHING else isn't atm. I hope it's more clear now. The skill itself is fine, I don't want it buffed or nerfed or anything. The problem here is another broken mechanic, and just ask sypher or anyone else. This is also one of the reasons why I'm not on s/b anymore, my bashes are useless and they won me so many fights when they weren't.

Mojomonkeyman · January 2015

LegendaryMage wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

As much as your summary is appreciated by many, me included, I don`t like that you basically wove in some issues about game mechanics, which might be your opinion, but are not commonly considered as "not working properly".

I consider crushing shock already effing strong for its cost, for being a spammable burst skill, applying a dot, synergizing with disintegrate and so on...

It`s the definition of an easymode skill.

You want it to basically interrupt with every single application? Burst + Dmg + Dot with just spamming it and complaining about "having to streak" from time to time? Interrupts should never come for free, it should require extra clicks...

You know, I totally respect you as a player, but that logic of yours won`t ever go into my head, sorry.

This is a broken game mechanic, crushing shock does work as intended but it does not interrupt heavy attacks just as ANYTHING else isn't atm. I hope it's more clear now. The skill itself is fine, I don't want it buffed or nerfed or anything. The problem here is another broken mechanic, and just ask sypher or anyone else. This is also one of the reasons why I'm not on s/b anymore, my bashes are useless and they won me so many fights when they weren't.

I dont agree. Since this game suffers alternative playstyles to proc fishing and shock spamming, I really appreciate, that heavvies have to be interrupted with actual cc.

Just because you and Sypher agree on something doesnt make it true.

LegendaryMage · January 2015

I understand your point of view, what you are basically saying is that heavy attacks shouldn't be interrupted at all, other than hard cc when you're not cc immune or have immovable?

Mojomonkeyman · January 2015

LegendaryMage wrote: »

I understand your point of view, what you are basically saying is that heavy attacks shouldn't be interrupted at all, other than hard cc when you're not cc immune or have immovable?

I think having to interrupt heavies with actual cc instead of having another "built in", low cost benefit to s&b is a good thing, yes.

I wouldn`t call "disorient" a hard cc tho. All cc`s are easily accessible on all setups via various channels. It`s not that you would have to wait for 20 sec cooldowns or similar, like in other games. It`s already very easy.

Soulac · January 2015

Well you can't interrupt heavy attacks if you enemy use immovable or got immunity, that's stupid.
Interrupt is broken, crushing shock is broken.
Even if you disagree it doesn't change it or is a reason for a not working mechanic.
I say that as a Melee NB and hate it to get heavy attacks on me in front of my face.

Araxleon · January 2015

Soulac wrote: »

Well you can't interrupt heavy attacks if you enemy use immovable or got immunity, that's stupid.
Interrupt is broken, crushing shock is broken.
Even if you disagree it doesn't change it or is a reason for a not working mechanic.
I say that as a Melee NB and hate it to get heavy attacks on me in front of my face.

True, I still wish ZOS would say something. We can NO LONGER bash heavy attacks (resto,2H, destro etc etc) it takes some of the skill outta the game...

Mojomonkeyman · January 2015

Poor NBs, yeah.

Just because of you repeating the same rubbish you agree on in the variuous guild chats these days doesnt make it anymore true. Keep telling yourself it`s broken, I don`t think it is, nor has it been confirmed officially.

I hate getting feared, too. Just because I don`t like the way it works, doesn`t make it broken.

LegendaryMage · January 2015

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

LegendaryMage wrote: »

I understand your point of view, what you are basically saying is that heavy attacks shouldn't be interrupted at all, other than hard cc when you're not cc immune or have immovable?

I think having to interrupt heavies with actual cc instead of having another "built in", low cost benefit to s&b is a good thing, yes.

Ok, so I should roll a caster templar, get undaunted set to make my heavies do 1K dmg, have arena set for infinite breakfree with aura that boosts my hp/stamina regen, constantly do heavies in your face without any risk at all and never run out of blazing shield or magicka in general. Isn't that easy mode? Should something like that be even possible?

Soulac · January 2015

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Poor NBs, yeah.

Just because of you repeating the same rubbish you agree on in the variuous guild chats these days doesnt make it anymore true. Keep telling yourself it`s broken, I don`t think it is, nor has it been confirmed officially.

I hate getting feared, too. Just because I don`t like the way it works, doesn`t make it broken.

You know that interrupting is a part of the game like fear is a part of the game.
Fear is not broken, interrupt is, that's a difference.
Maybe you like doing heavy attacks without risks, but infinity Magicka gain for no risk is crap and totally not working as intended.

You learn the mechanics of interrupting in the first steps of the game, so pls.

Mojomonkeyman · January 2015

Well, if someone decides to play that way and manages to keep up his rotations and you die to it, I see no differene to someone abusing s&b block and def posture in combination with resto shields.

Just because you decided one way of playing is more "skillful" than another doesnt make it any true. Your demands to have crushing shock (your main dps/burst skill) to conveniently interrupt with every application makes me doubt your objectivity.

Mojomonkeyman · January 2015

Soulac wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Poor NBs, yeah.

Just because of you repeating the same rubbish you agree on in the variuous guild chats these days doesnt make it anymore true. Keep telling yourself it`s broken, I don`t think it is, nor has it been confirmed officially.

I hate getting feared, too. Just because I don`t like the way it works, doesn`t make it broken.

You know that interrupting is a part of the game like fear is a part of the game.
Fear is not broken, interrupt is, that's a difference.
Maybe you like doing heavy attacks without risks, but infinity Magicka gain for no risk is crap and totally not working as intended.

You learn the mechanics of interrupting in the first steps of the game, so pls.

Wow, seriously? You still CAN interrupt, you just have to use cc.

LegendaryMage · January 2015

So whatever build I play 'I'm abusing something' by your logic?

When I was on s/b I was 'abusing' resto shields and 'bash'? Now I'm trying to 'abuse' crushing shock? I will 'abuse' pets in 1.6 probably too...

Araxleon · January 2015

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Well, if someone decides to play that way and manages to keep up his rotations and you die to it, I see no differene to someone abusing s&b block and def posture in combination with resto shields.

Just because you decided one way of playing is more "skillful" than another doesnt make it any true. Your demands to have crushing shock (your main dps/burst skill) to conveniently interrupt with every application makes me doubt your objectivity.

The tutorial literally says *bash enemy heavy attacks to set them off balance* the game teachs you that leveling up and when you hit PVP it doesnt work anymore which is weird. We dont know if its a bug or a valid change, heavy attacks are suppose to be bashable.
Also it does require skill example: Before patch if I wanted to heavy attack I would use shadow image, get myself some distance and then heavy resto (to recover magicka) now I no longer need to do this since I dont need to play it safe so i can just sit in there face and heavy resto for unlimited magicka

Mojomonkeyman · January 2015

LegendaryMage wrote: »

So whatever build I play 'I'm abusing something' by your logic?

When I was on s/b I was 'abusing' resto shields and 'bash'? Now I'm trying to 'abuse' crushing shock? I will 'abuse' pets in 1.6 probably too...

Not abuse because you do it. Abuse in its literal sense of abusing inherent strengths which are not necessarily good for the game. And then complaining about similarly abusive things is kinda hypocritical.

I was under the assumption you`re a grown up, now I see you`re just trying to twist my words to fit your ego, pretty pathetic.

Mojomonkeyman · January 2015

Araxleon wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Well, if someone decides to play that way and manages to keep up his rotations and you die to it, I see no differene to someone abusing s&b block and def posture in combination with resto shields.

Just because you decided one way of playing is more "skillful" than another doesnt make it any true. Your demands to have crushing shock (your main dps/burst skill) to conveniently interrupt with every application makes me doubt your objectivity.

The tutorial literally says *bash enemy heavy attacks to set them off balance* the game teachs you that leveling up and when you hit PVP it doesnt work anymore which is weird. We dont know if its a bug or a valid change, heavy attacks are suppose to be bashable.
Also it does require skill example: Before patch if I wanted to heavy attack I would use shadow image, get myself some distance and then heavy resto (to recover magicka) now I no longer need to do this since I dont need to play it safe so i can just sit in there face and heavy resto for unlimited magicka

Yeah, and streak was supposed to have a flat base cost, then it changed. Get over it.

Araxleon · January 2015

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Araxleon wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Well, if someone decides to play that way and manages to keep up his rotations and you die to it, I see no differene to someone abusing s&b block and def posture in combination with resto shields.

Just because you decided one way of playing is more "skillful" than another doesnt make it any true. Your demands to have crushing shock (your main dps/burst skill) to conveniently interrupt with every application makes me doubt your objectivity.

The tutorial literally says *bash enemy heavy attacks to set them off balance* the game teachs you that leveling up and when you hit PVP it doesnt work anymore which is weird. We dont know if its a bug or a valid change, heavy attacks are suppose to be bashable.
Also it does require skill example: Before patch if I wanted to heavy attack I would use shadow image, get myself some distance and then heavy resto (to recover magicka) now I no longer need to do this since I dont need to play it safe so i can just sit in there face and heavy resto for unlimited magicka

Yeah, and streak was supposed to have a flat base cost, then it changed. Get over it.

good point, but they didnt change streak without telling us.
now I see you`re just trying to twist my words to fit your ego, pretty pathetic

LegendaryMage · January 2015

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

LegendaryMage wrote: »

So whatever build I play 'I'm abusing something' by your logic?

When I was on s/b I was 'abusing' resto shields and 'bash'? Now I'm trying to 'abuse' crushing shock? I will 'abuse' pets in 1.6 probably too...

Not abuse because you do it. Abuse in its literal sense of abusing inherent strengths which are not necessarily good for the game. And then complaining about similarly abusive things is kinda hypocritical.

I was under the assumption you`re a grown up, now I see you`re just trying to twist my words to fit your ego, pretty pathetic.

Sorry if I misunderstood you. All good now?

Soulac · January 2015

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Poor NBs, yeah.

Just because of you repeating the same rubbish you agree on in the variuous guild chats these days doesnt make it anymore true. Keep telling yourself it`s broken, I don`t think it is, nor has it been confirmed officially.

I hate getting feared, too. Just because I don`t like the way it works, doesn`t make it broken.

You know that interrupting is a part of the game like fear is a part of the game.
Fear is not broken, interrupt is, that's a difference.
Maybe you like doing heavy attacks without risks, but infinity Magicka gain for no risk is crap and totally not working as intended.

You learn the mechanics of interrupting in the first steps of the game, so pls.

Wow, seriously? You still CAN interrupt, you just have to use cc.

I will explain it again, just for you.
You can't interrupt an enemy with immunity or immovable.
So basically I let you stun me and get Magicka for free, you can't do anything against that.
Interrupting is a important mechanic for skillbased playing, it makes a huge difference, I don't know why u think it's intended or okay.
Do you use the undaunted weaver set and like spamming heavy attacks or what is your problem with our arguments.?

Mojomonkeyman · January 2015

Soulac wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Poor NBs, yeah.

Just because of you repeating the same rubbish you agree on in the variuous guild chats these days doesnt make it anymore true. Keep telling yourself it`s broken, I don`t think it is, nor has it been confirmed officially.

I hate getting feared, too. Just because I don`t like the way it works, doesn`t make it broken.

You know that interrupting is a part of the game like fear is a part of the game.
Fear is not broken, interrupt is, that's a difference.
Maybe you like doing heavy attacks without risks, but infinity Magicka gain for no risk is crap and totally not working as intended.

You learn the mechanics of interrupting in the first steps of the game, so pls.

Wow, seriously? You still CAN interrupt, you just have to use cc.

I will explain it again, just for you.
You can't interrupt an enemy with immunity or immovable.
So basically I let you stun me and get Magicka for free, you can't do anything against that.
Interrupting is a important mechanic for skillbased playing, it makes a huge difference, I don't know why u think it's intended or okay.
Do you use the undaunted weaver set and like spamming heavy attacks or what is your problem with our arguments.?

Really? I know you are very young, but you really want to look smart, ha? Dude, don`t even try to. You don`t bring any news, you just repeat your opinion.

"Again, just for you": I just happen to think that this change is a welcome addition since it opens up different builds & setups which are not proc fishing or shock spamming.

Basically the lesser evil and just another imbalanced thing that is pretty minor compared to all the exisiting flaws (shield stacking, block casting, fear mechanics, reflects and a bazillion others) in the game, which you guys use every day in, day out witout complaining or with complaining. Solely depending on whether you use it, like it or got killed by it.

Hypocrites.

Soulac · January 2015

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Poor NBs, yeah.

Just because of you repeating the same rubbish you agree on in the variuous guild chats these days doesnt make it anymore true. Keep telling yourself it`s broken, I don`t think it is, nor has it been confirmed officially.

I hate getting feared, too. Just because I don`t like the way it works, doesn`t make it broken.

You know that interrupting is a part of the game like fear is a part of the game.
Fear is not broken, interrupt is, that's a difference.
Maybe you like doing heavy attacks without risks, but infinity Magicka gain for no risk is crap and totally not working as intended.

You learn the mechanics of interrupting in the first steps of the game, so pls.

Wow, seriously? You still CAN interrupt, you just have to use cc.

I will explain it again, just for you.
You can't interrupt an enemy with immunity or immovable.
So basically I let you stun me and get Magicka for free, you can't do anything against that.
Interrupting is a important mechanic for skillbased playing, it makes a huge difference, I don't know why u think it's intended or okay.
Do you use the undaunted weaver set and like spamming heavy attacks or what is your problem with our arguments.?

Really? I know you are very young, but you really want to look smart, ha? Dude, don`t even try to. You don`t bring any news, you just repeat your opinion.

"Again, just for you": I just happen to think that this change is a welcome addition since it opens up different builds & setups which are not proc fishing or shock spamming.

Basically the lesser evil and just another imbalanced thing that is pretty minor compared to all the exisiting flaws (shield stacking, block casting, fear mechanics, and a bazillion others) in the game, which you guys use every day in, day out witout complaining or with complaining. Solely depending on whether you use it, like it or got killed by it.

Hypocrites.

Well I don't know what 'young' means to you, but I don't actually care.
Please tell me more about these new, different builds and setups we got, thanks to this 'change'. I got time, so better start writing.

Neither can I remember Shield stacking as NB, nor do I use noticeable block casting.
Anyway I am tired to discuss with you, so let us stop here, it's useless anyway.
You prefer easier playing, I don't, you got your reasons, I got my reasons.
If they change it, we are happy. If not, you are.

DDuke · January 2015

Well, it seems @Mojomonkeyman‌ is against skill based & diverse play, no matter what the subject.

We can all guess around what the reason for that is.

Mojomonkeyman · January 2015

Soulac wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Poor NBs, yeah.

Just because of you repeating the same rubbish you agree on in the variuous guild chats these days doesnt make it anymore true. Keep telling yourself it`s broken, I don`t think it is, nor has it been confirmed officially.

I hate getting feared, too. Just because I don`t like the way it works, doesn`t make it broken.

You know that interrupting is a part of the game like fear is a part of the game.
Fear is not broken, interrupt is, that's a difference.
Maybe you like doing heavy attacks without risks, but infinity Magicka gain for no risk is crap and totally not working as intended.

You learn the mechanics of interrupting in the first steps of the game, so pls.

Wow, seriously? You still CAN interrupt, you just have to use cc.

I will explain it again, just for you.
You can't interrupt an enemy with immunity or immovable.
So basically I let you stun me and get Magicka for free, you can't do anything against that.
Interrupting is a important mechanic for skillbased playing, it makes a huge difference, I don't know why u think it's intended or okay.
Do you use the undaunted weaver set and like spamming heavy attacks or what is your problem with our arguments.?

Really? I know you are very young, but you really want to look smart, ha? Dude, don`t even try to. You don`t bring any news, you just repeat your opinion.

"Again, just for you": I just happen to think that this change is a welcome addition since it opens up different builds & setups which are not proc fishing or shock spamming.

Basically the lesser evil and just another imbalanced thing that is pretty minor compared to all the exisiting flaws (shield stacking, block casting, fear mechanics, and a bazillion others) in the game, which you guys use every day in, day out witout complaining or with complaining. Solely depending on whether you use it, like it or got killed by it.

Hypocrites.

Well I don't know what 'young' means to you, but I don't actually care.
Please tell me more about these new, different builds and setups we got, thanks to this 'change'. I got time, so better start writing.

Neither can I remember Shield stacking as NB, nor do I use noticeable block casting.
Anyway I am tired to discuss with you, so let us stop here, it's useless anyway.
You prefer easier playing, I don't, you got your reasons, I got my reasons.
If they change it, we are happy. If not, you are.

What a low try. I want it easier? Yeah, thats why I played stam setups for the past 3 months. Are you really trying to downtalk me like that?

Sad, very sad. You know, grown ups like to discuss with arguments. Read my post before, thats an argument, just in case you have no clue what that is...

Mojomonkeyman · January 2015

DDuke wrote: »

Well, it seems @Mojomonkeyman‌ is against skill based & diverse play, no matter what the subject.

We can all guess around what the reason for that is.

.... and all the grumpy little minions crawl out of their caves to get their vendetta... funny.