Sleep wrote: »

I don't like the damage reduction. Just simply remove the cap.

The changes result in a damage increase. Right now, you hit 6 players and 6 players only for 100%.

After the changes, you will still hit 6 players for 100% then you will hit 24 more players with 50% damage and another 30 players for 25% damage.

Besides, very rarely are there are more than 60 players in the same confined space that the AOE skills can cover. When was the last time you had more than 60 players within the range of one of the Impulse skills? I'm not sure I have ever seen 60 players within the same Caltrops field.

You're probably arguing semantics by saying you want the cap removed; but for all practical purposes, the cap is removed as 60 is usually far higher than the number of players in most AOE fields.

Batswarmer won't be able to build ultimate very quickly after the patch now..So it won't be tears of joy if you have people spread out and you waste your ultimate on that.

You'll quickly realize that unless you're dive bombing a stacked group from stealth after the patch that running around in a clump with Batswarm is not going to work.

I don't think people realize how much bloody damage you're going to take after the patch now that stacking doesn't work..

i would have preferred the DAoC way of handling AOEs - its beyond me why a system that worked perfectly 15 years ago is impossible to be implemented nowadays...

but the changes is better than nothing.

Subtomik wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

But I thought people wanted those caps lifted . Is this bad ?

We do. people are worried about the calculations its going to take to work out how the damage is distributed, etc.

The game is super laggy already, if they release this and add in a million more calculations its going to make the game unplayable, assuming the problem is from calculation, and not the lighting fix etc.

I'm pretty sure that the 24hours sunshine inside Farragut, the underground mender at Chalman mine and the floating pillar at Drakelowe is all working as intended.

Note to DKs: unleash Inhale spam.

Well this fix will either be the make or break for PvP , most people already quit and I just came back after a 2-3 month break. Hoping this will get rid of the impulse trains that have been plaguing Cyrodiil for a very long time now.

Columba wrote: »

this will break the game even more. pulse chimps will hit more people and the calculations for this complex bs will lag out the server even worse than they do now. It's made for the pulse chimps who intentionally lag out the server.

This has to be your dumbest comment of all time columba. This change will make sure small and organized groups will be able to defeat large groups (of pulse spammers ) and not be hindered by an AoE cap. There will be less stacking up, because that gives no more safety from AoE anymore and is now very dangerous instead. Add on top of that the new zergbuster skill and increased viability of siege weapons and you can assure yourself you will be seeing a lot less pulse spamming blobs.

Columba wrote: »

yet the additional calculations will make lag even worse. I agree with increasing or removing aoe caps, but this funky design will be even worse than current with the exponentially higher # of calculations required. Koensol if you aren't literate in logic, math or programming, perhaps you should remain silent.

There will be no more groups standing in one spot, lumped up, spamming their *** away that lagged the server to the point it couldn't keep up. People will be more spread out, and so will be the calculations that have to be made by the server. The biggest problems always came from the people standing im one spot lsgging the entire server. I have seen it multiple times myself and on videos.

This whole thing will improve even more with the implementation of the new (though lame) ultimate generation since there will be no more pre combat ult generation and less healing springs spam as a result.

Morvul wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

i would have preferred the DAoC way of handling AOEs - its beyond me why a system that worked perfectly 15 years ago is impossible to be implemented nowadays...

but the changes is better than nothing.

well, from my understanding, in big fights the new AoE caps will give an effect that is very similar to the AoE-damage-fall-off seen in DAoC. it's just that the ESO method seems to me to be more computational intensive, but in turn makes AoE stronger (relativ to the DAoC model) in small fights

well the problem with any "hardcap" remains, the random chose of the enemy to be hit spreads the incomming dmg on multiple heads massivly increasing the effective HP per player (especially in combination with "smart heals"). sure i´ll be better than the current system of invul players but blobs will still be extreamly owerpowered as they will have 6 randomly chosen for full dmg while every one else will be hit for far less than an grandheal tick as range AE in this game are horribly weak...

so after all the changes done will not really have much impact to the current meta but may lead to even more computing stress on the server side...

so again + 1 for the daoc system of truly uncapped AEs.

apostate9 wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Note to DKs: unleash Inhale spam.

You mean the spell that targets "up to 3 nearby enemies"?

It draws health from up to 3 nearby enemies but i think the AoE dmg splash at the end hits more than that. So it could be more worth while now slotting with 1.6.

Eglath wrote: »

Wonder if streak is considered aoe, I do truly enjoy streaking through those blobs

After the streak nerf, that would be inconvenient to make it like it used to be again. Otherwise get ready for negate fest once again.