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Should the disco ball be removed from Inner Light?

  • PBpsy
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    Get rid of it.
    OK. How will the PvP people know who is running Magelight etc, if the balls are gone? That's why they are there.
    If they are in stealth you won't see it anyway....Seriously.

    That may be true but no one has answered that question. You need to be able to see if some people in a group or someone by themselves is running ML, especially if you are a sneaky guy and that person might be prey.

    No you do not. You have to take a risk if you are sneaky ganker too. Just like anyone that dares to risk going trough a possible ganker infested zone. You like the element of surprise? Enjoy getting surprised by INNER light users.
    Edited by PBpsy on December 1, 2014 10:09PM
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  • eventide03b14a_ESO
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    Get rid of it.
    OK. How will the PvP people know who is running Magelight etc, if the balls are gone? That's why they are there.
    If they are in stealth you won't see it anyway....Seriously.

    That may be true but no one has answered that question. You need to be able to see if some people in a group or someone by themselves is running ML, especially if you are a sneaky guy and that person might be prey.
    Yes it does answer it. The fact is it doesn't matter. Your partially opened eye will tell you well in advance if you are approaching becoming detected. I'm sorry but that is a far more useful indicator than a stupid light floating around someone's head because it works 100% of the time even if said person is in stealth and you can't see them. Please, please, please, do not give them this as a reason to keep it when the majority of people agree that it's stupid, unnecessary and distracting.

    No decent player is just going to run around by himself with a light circling them out in the open unless he has a dozen friends waiting in the shadows to ambush you.

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  • poodlemasterb16_ESO
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    Get rid of it.
    PBpsy wrote: »
    OK. How will the PvP people know who is running Magelight etc, if the balls are gone? That's why they are there.
    If they are in stealth you won't see it anyway....Seriously.

    That may be true but no one has answered that question. You need to be able to see if some people in a group or someone by themselves is running ML, especially if you are a sneaky guy and that person might be prey.

    No you do not. You have to take a risk if you are sneaky ganker too. Just like anyone that dares to risk going trough a possible ganker infested zone. You like the element of surprise? Enjoy getting surprised by INNER light users.

    We all run Inner Light, well if we have been here awhile anyway. You might not like it but it's working as intended.

    The game is just fine as it is in this respect. In my opinion, RP takes a back seat to combat, and PvP is about combat.
  • deepseamk20b14_ESO
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    No, I like the disco ball
    Why is the ball there? Because that's how magic casted light in Elder scrolls have always been. They float around you or above you. Heck, same thing in the movies, look at LotR.

    You just want to go around Cyrodiil and pretend you aren't able to see sneaking players.
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  • Mettaricana
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    Get rid of it.
    One Two wrote: »
    Basically you want a skill that makes NBs so easy to spot that their entire Class is quite useless, YET have your own character not stand out at all... to warn others about your use of this mechanic....good one.

    I see what you did there ^^

    the flaming eyes and hands is give away enough i cant stand the light as well as the low noise it makes while active
  • eventide03b14a_ESO
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    Get rid of it.
    Why is the ball there? Because that's how magic casted light in Elder scrolls have always been. They float around you or above you. Heck, same thing in the movies, look at LotR.

    You just want to go around Cyrodiil and pretend you aren't able to see sneaking players.
    This argument is now officially the worst so far.

    We are specifically talking about inner light. Also, no. Detect life and detect undead never had any floating balls. You are thinking of magelight which didn't detect crap it just lit things up and it certainly didn't give you crit bonus.
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  • dvogiatziseb17_ESO
    Get rid of it.
    Can we get rid of it?

    62% of players don't like this.

    Please remove it.
  • SteveCampsOut
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    No, I like the disco ball
    Can we get rid of it?

    62% of players don't like this.

    Please remove it.

    That's 62% of players who bother coming to the forums to *** and moan about everything. The players who are enjoying the game most of the time don't bother coming here to vote on our silly polls. It's sad that this has to be pointed out to anyone.

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  • TequilaFire
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    Interesting there are so many threads about balls...
  • drschplatt
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    Get rid of it.
    Get rid of it, please!
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  • Zhoyzu
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    Get rid of it.
    if it stayed in one *** place id be content but it doesnt. it moves around and obstructs vision
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  • Zhoyzu
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    Get rid of it.
    Hey everyone! We've been seeing all the feedback regarding Inner Light, and want you to know that you will see a change with this once Update 4 goes live. The particle FX and light will be scaled down in both size and intensity so it will be a bit softer and less distracting overall.


    Its update 5 and it still sucks. make it stationary or remove it.
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  • Zhoyzu
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    Get rid of it.
    Soloeus wrote: »
    Other players have the right to know you have it active and the "disco ball" makes you identifiable. Learn to play!

    Learn to see! it has an animation/effect already the ball is redundant and not needed. on top of everything else.
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  • Zhoyzu
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    Get rid of it.
    Why is the ball there? Because that's how magic casted light in Elder scrolls have always been. They float around you or above you. Heck, same thing in the movies, look at LotR.

    You just want to go around Cyrodiil and pretend you aren't able to see sneaking players.

    The issue is the fact it rotates obstructing vision, not that its there. if it were stationary (like it was in all previous TES games) it wouldnt be an issue. Inner light already has an animation anyways
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  • poodlemasterb16_ESO
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    Get rid of it.
    Zhoyzu wrote: »
    Why is the ball there? Because that's how magic casted light in Elder scrolls have always been. They float around you or above you. Heck, same thing in the movies, look at LotR.

    You just want to go around Cyrodiil and pretend you aren't able to see sneaking players.

    The issue is the fact it rotates obstructing vision, not that its there. if it were stationary (like it was in all previous TES games) it wouldnt be an issue. Inner light already has an animation anyways

    It does not obstruct vision in first person. I seldom see it as I turn it off when not in use.
  • C3N50R3D
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    Get rid of it.
    Bump. Turn it off. Smaller now but this is not a good compromise. It needs to go away!
  • Artemiisia
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    No, I like the disco ball
    Im happy enough with the change, I barely notice it anymore
  • Darkrogue671
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    No, I like the disco ball
    You didn't see a ball of light!! What you saw was sunlight refracting off of some swamp gas!
  • Amsel_McKay
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    No, I like the disco ball
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    Dear @ZOS_GinaBruno‌

    This is what we want. Not less light, but no light. We want the body effect, but not the disco ball.

    no this is not what WE want ;)
  • AaronMB
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    After a few days of running with it, I hardly even noticed it anymore; now-a-days half the time I turn it off because I don't realize it's on already (I can't be alone here?).

    I don't mind it, but wouldn't mind either if it was only hands and face, perhaps even a little more exaggerated - that effect is cool.

    The ol' jump/fall-->roll-->cast InnerLight trick worked once for me, but only once. lol
    Edited by AaronMB on December 11, 2014 9:14PM
  • jeanette
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    Make the first orb smaller like the one in inner light. Remove the one in inner light.
  • Heruthema
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    Get rid of it.
    I don't care if I am the only one who can see it. It is annoying. If it's an inner light then make it so. You can keep the face effect but get rid of the Ball.
    Edited by Heruthema on December 11, 2014 9:46PM
  • Athas24
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    No, I like the disco ball
    From what I'm reading everyone must suffer from the WORST migraines ever for a dumb little blue light to hurt their eyes... maybe they've spent hours staring into the sun... I don't know...but this little light mechanically makes sense, is 100x cooler than magelight in Skyrim or the like and helps stealthers understand you are actively searching for them. I have it on all day long and never once did I think omg my eyes! Also, It's important to note here that I do spend time outside in natural light so that might have something to do with the moles in the community that never leave their basement fortresses ha-ha :smiley:
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  • whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO
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    No, I like the disco ball
    No, and I am tired of hearing about it..OMG
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  • PBpsy
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    Get rid of it.
    No, and I am tired of hearing about it..OMG

    You are out of luck then since we will most definitely not stop complaining about this dumb crap until they do give magicka builds 20 % spell crit chance from passives and remove the need to sacrifice 2 slots for the stupid spinning blue light to be competitive magicka based dps. OMG!!!!
    Edited by PBpsy on December 12, 2014 1:22AM
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  • Tonturri
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    Get rid of it.
    I like the changes thus far to it. However...it's still very distracting. Please just go the whole nine yards and give us the option to toggle away the spinning thing?
    From what I'm reading everyone must suffer from the WORST migraines ever for a dumb little blue light to hurt their eyes
    Hello, you are not the only person in the world :) Please keep your ridiculous assumptions to yourself, thank you!
    No, and I am tired of hearing about it..OMG
    Might I suggest not coming into the thread, then?
  • Draxys
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    Get rid of it.
    I'd say get rid of it because 1) it's super annoying and 2) Mage light looks like that in previous installments of ES because it's purpose was actually to light areas. It doesn't do that in this game. To overcome the need to see others running this skill (such as enemies in Cyrodiil), perhaps make the characters hands glow slightly more?
    Edited by Draxys on December 12, 2014 4:41PM
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  • NadiusMaximus
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    No, I like the disco ball
    Make dungeons dark, like they should be, in order for this to serve it's original use as being a replacement for torches( which we also need).

    Make this a real ElderScrolls game and knock the crap off of trying to use the old mechanics in a new way.

    I swear, people bought this game knowing nothing about ElderScrolls game play except for Skyrim job, which wasn't that great without heavy mods.
  • Voldathur
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    Tonturri wrote: »
    Might I suggest not coming into the thread, then?

    Why? so that you can claim that 100% of players agree with the OP?
    Interesting concept you've got here.

  • Enkil
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    Get rid of it.
    I cannot believe this is still being debated. INNER LIGHT means INNER. The orbiting ball is OUTER!! Makes zero sense and it's ANNOYING as can be!!

    If people want to use it to illuminate the area, give them a separate skill that yields a ball of light that hovers above their head like in Skyrim.
    Edited by Enkil on December 18, 2014 1:21AM
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