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Should the disco ball be removed from Inner Light?
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NakedSnake✭✭✭Get rid of it.Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ViciousWayz wrote: »It looks silly IMO. For those that go with the crit option and get glowing eyes, that should remove the orb. For those that want the orb, leave it for the other option. Simple.
I like the orb, and it is vital info in pvp to know that simply walking near someone is going to break your stealth as a visual cue, from a greater distance than most people. It's not like we have buffs/debuff indicators to tell us... we were told we should rely on visual cues. I don't care if they change it into a stationary pink teddy bear floating above people's heads with a rainbow unicorn hat on its head, but there needs to be some way to tell other than guesswork.
Why the hell should the guys that sneak be able to know that I can detect them? Really ? .When you try to surprise attack gank someone, maybe there should be a chance that you fail. Sneaking should be risky, The light effects on my arms and eyes should be enough if not to much of a give away.
It doesn't even play that way most of the time though. The inner light user will usually be hidden also and you will not see his Disco Ball unless you have your own. I had plenty of encounters where I detected a sneak walking by a couple of meters away oblivious to my presence (until my Ambush
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If you're that close other players can actually hear the soundFX of the magelight, so even though they can't see you if they're using game audio they can hear you. Just a heads up for those that don't know.
If you are close enough to hear the sound, then you are easily close enough to see the visual indicators. It has three visual cue's including the giant glowing ball of annoyance. Totally unnecessary.
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This is just false, though always in PVE situation you won't see the ball spinning around other players, likely it is because they popped it before you were within that zone. However in Cyrodiil I can never see the magelight circling around players.madstoogb16_ESO wrote: »If I see a mage/whatever with it on I tend to avoid them. If it had no animation.. just be stupid.
Fun fact:
You cannot see that ball!
Stop inventing stuff...
Only the caster himself can see it!
It is invisible for everyone else exept people who are grouped with him.Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ViciousWayz wrote: »It looks silly IMO. For those that go with the crit option and get glowing eyes, that should remove the orb. For those that want the orb, leave it for the other option. Simple.
I like the orb, and it is vital info in pvp to know that simply walking near someone is going to break your stealth as a visual cue, from a greater distance than most people. It's not like we have buffs/debuff indicators to tell us... we were told we should rely on visual cues. I don't care if they change it into a stationary pink teddy bear floating above people's heads with a rainbow unicorn hat on its head, but there needs to be some way to tell other than guesswork.
Why the hell should the guys that sneak be able to know that I can detect them? Really ? .When you try to surprise attack gank someone, maybe there should be a chance that you fail. Sneaking should be risky, The light effects on my arms and eyes should be enough if not to much of a give away.
It doesn't even play that way most of the time though. The inner light user will usually be hidden also and you will not see his Disco Ball unless you have your own. I had plenty of encounters where I detected a sneak walking by a couple of meters away oblivious to my presence (until my Ambush )
Exactly. They always say the same thing. "While ganking, if I see the ball I know to stay away" or "How am i supposed to know that the enemy nearby can reveal nearby hidden players without the ball?"
The ball is simply easymode for stealthers. and prevents player interaction which goes against the whole concept of player versus player.
Edited by NakedSnake on August 22, 2014 11:50PM"Brilliant! Why is it that the people with the most ridiculous ideas are always the ones who are most certain of them?" -
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✭Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ViciousWayz wrote: »It looks silly IMO. For those that go with the crit option and get glowing eyes, that should remove the orb. For those that want the orb, leave it for the other option. Simple.
I like the orb, and it is vital info in pvp to know that simply walking near someone is going to break your stealth as a visual cue, from a greater distance than most people. It's not like we have buffs/debuff indicators to tell us... we were told we should rely on visual cues. I don't care if they change it into a stationary pink teddy bear floating above people's heads with a rainbow unicorn hat on its head, but there needs to be some way to tell other than guesswork.
This. In PvP the orb lets me know not to get to close to that player as he can possibly break my stealth. -
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✭No, I like the disco ballAttorneyatlawl wrote: »ViciousWayz wrote: »It looks silly IMO. For those that go with the crit option and get glowing eyes, that should remove the orb. For those that want the orb, leave it for the other option. Simple.
I like the orb, and it is vital info in pvp to know that simply walking near someone is going to break your stealth as a visual cue, from a greater distance than most people. It's not like we have buffs/debuff indicators to tell us... we were told we should rely on visual cues. I don't care if they change it into a stationary pink teddy bear floating above people's heads with a rainbow unicorn hat on its head, but there needs to be some way to tell other than guesswork.
This. In PvP the orb lets me know not to get to close to that player as he can possibly break my stealth.
but you can't see enemy disco balls...Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them. -
drewbechrwb17_ESOSoul ShrivenNo, I like the disco ballThe current inner light animation does not hurt my eyes at all, and it looks pretty badass. I don't understand the whole argument about how it makes NB's role too easy. Even if it did change to a shining light from within you, wouldn't you still have to produce as much light to get the same radius for "unstealthing" enemy players? If your character was glowing like a human lightbulb it seems to me it would be just as easy as if you had the "disco ball" orbiting around you. -
Probitas✭✭✭No, I like the disco ballI actually like the visual, right out of the original Oblivion and Skyrim games.
The only other thing to do to show you have a light shining all the time would be to make the character glow, and I tell ya, I'm freaking tired of Twilight. It's bad enough in the real world, the last thing we need is vamps running around glowing in ESO. <shudder> -
Shennynerd✭✭✭No, I like the disco ballWhy does the entire playerbase have overly sensitive eyes? Are you all playing in the dark? Forgot to eat your carrots?Rose - AD - Khajiit Nightblade
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Troponin✭✭✭Get rid of it.Shennynerd wrote: »Why does the entire playerbase have overly sensitive eyes? Are you all playing in the dark? Forgot to eat your carrots?
There are several things in this game that hurts my eyes and never had the issue in another game. Shards are by far the worse. I have a 75 watt light in my small office. During the day, I have the windows open and can barely see the screen, and the shards still light up really bright
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felinith66✭✭✭No, I like the disco ballKeep it. Make it change colors. And make it blink
Edited by felinith66 on August 23, 2014 5:50AM -
Troponin✭✭✭Get rid of it.felinith66 wrote: »Keep it. Make it change colors. And make it blink
I foresee seizures in the upcoming patch.
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felinith66✭✭✭No, I like the disco ballfelinith66 wrote: »Keep it. Make it change colors. And make it blink
I foresee seizures in the upcoming patch.
Haha. You're giving me a heart attack
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NakedSnake✭✭✭Get rid of it.drewbechrwb17_ESO wrote: »The current inner light animation does not hurt my eyes at all, and it looks pretty badass. I don't understand the whole argument about how it makes NB's role too easy. Even if it did change to a shining light from within you, wouldn't you still have to produce as much light to get the same radius for "unstealthing" enemy players? If your character was glowing like a human lightbulb it seems to me it would be just as easy as if you had the "disco ball" orbiting around you.
What?I actually like the visual, right out of the original Oblivion and Skyrim games.
The only other thing to do to show you have a light shining all the time would be to make the character glow, and I tell ya, I'm freaking tired of Twilight. It's bad enough in the real world, the last thing we need is vamps running around glowing in ESO. <shudder>
Seriously what?"Brilliant! Why is it that the people with the most ridiculous ideas are always the ones who are most certain of them?" -
guybrushtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Get rid of it.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey everyone! We've been seeing all the feedback regarding Inner Light, and want you to know that you will see a change with this once Update 4 goes live. The particle FX and light will be scaled down in both size and intensity so it will be a bit softer and less distracting overall.
While that sounds like a step in the right direction, I personally would have preferred to see the moving part removed completely. The particle effect among the eyes and hands was actually quite fitting IMO, but I don't think a less shiny light alone will be that much better, as long as it is still constantly rotating in our primary field of view. -
Black_Wolf88✭✭✭No, I like the disco ballI voted no because I have been using inner light for months now and im used to it and no longer mind it."The key to immportality is first living a life worth remembering." -Bruce Lee -
Zorgon_The_Revenged✭✭✭✭✭Get rid of it.I used to like it, but after over four months of a spinning blue sphere I find it very nausea inducing and only use it for short periods of time. The sound is also annoying.
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✭✭✭Get rid of it.Black_Wolf88 wrote: »I voted no because I have been using inner light for months now and im used to it and no longer mind it.
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drewbechrwb17_ESOSoul ShrivenNo, I like the disco ballNakedSnake wrote: »drewbechrwb17_ESO wrote: »The current inner light animation does not hurt my eyes at all, and it looks pretty badass. I don't understand the whole argument about how it makes NB's role too easy. Even if it did change to a shining light from within you, wouldn't you still have to produce as much light to get the same radius for "unstealthing" enemy players? If your character was glowing like a human lightbulb it seems to me it would be just as easy as if you had the "disco ball" orbiting around you.
What?I actually like the visual, right out of the original Oblivion and Skyrim games.
The only other thing to do to show you have a light shining all the time would be to make the character glow, and I tell ya, I'm freaking tired of Twilight. It's bad enough in the real world, the last thing we need is vamps running around glowing in ESO. <shudder>
Seriously what?
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NakedSnake✭✭✭Get rid of it.drewbechrwb17_ESO wrote: »NakedSnake wrote: »drewbechrwb17_ESO wrote: »The current inner light animation does not hurt my eyes at all, and it looks pretty badass. I don't understand the whole argument about how it makes NB's role too easy. Even if it did change to a shining light from within you, wouldn't you still have to produce as much light to get the same radius for "unstealthing" enemy players? If your character was glowing like a human lightbulb it seems to me it would be just as easy as if you had the "disco ball" orbiting around you.
What?I actually like the visual, right out of the original Oblivion and Skyrim games.
The only other thing to do to show you have a light shining all the time would be to make the character glow, and I tell ya, I'm freaking tired of Twilight. It's bad enough in the real world, the last thing we need is vamps running around glowing in ESO. <shudder>
Seriously what?
I pray for you.
Save those prayers for your English teacher.Edited by NakedSnake on August 24, 2014 7:06PM"Brilliant! Why is it that the people with the most ridiculous ideas are always the ones who are most certain of them?" -
Elf_Boy✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey everyone! We've been seeing all the feedback regarding Inner Light, and want you to know that you will see a change with this once Update 4 goes live. The particle FX and light will be scaled down in both size and intensity so it will be a bit softer and less distracting overall.
I dont have a problem with it. I clearly see -however- how it would bug many peoples. Perhaps a new option category for the game that allows characters to select how spells are displayed?
I remember City of Heroes, you could customize the color and had alternative casting FX to choose from.
Something like that takes time and work, would be nice for increasing build, character diversity (looks wise anyways).** Asus Crosshair VI Hero, Ryzen 1800x, 64GB DDR4 @ 3000, GTX 1080 ti, 4K Samsung 3d Display m.2 Sata 3 Boot Drive, m.2 x4 nvme Game Drive ** -
poodlemasterb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Get rid of it.First person, and it's a small blue swirly pattern at the bottom and up the sides a bit. Kinda nice, lets you know it's on but is not at all distracting."Everything. They eat everything, and fear is their bacon bits" -
Mercurio✭✭✭Get rid of it.it's super friggin' annoying and frankly, I'm surprised it hasn't been changed yet. The entire skill needs to be deleted and reworked IMO and I use it on both of my bars permanently, despite hating it with a passion. -
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✭✭✭✭Get rid of it.Yes, I would like to see it gone. One question (sorry if this has been answered elsewhere), why do some people have the floating orb and others don't (just glowing eyes and wrists?Jahsul at-Sahan - Redguard Sorcerer (Stamina - Werewolf) Free Bites - PVP Main
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GhostwalkerLD✭✭✭✭Get rid of it.Get rid of it. Seriously. It's INNER LIGHT. Remove the ball and keep the glowy eyes and hands. Done!PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates! -
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✭No, I like the disco ballmadstoogb16_ESO wrote: »If I see a mage/whatever with it on I tend to avoid them. If it had no animation.. just be stupid.
Fun fact:
You cannot see that ball!
Stop inventing stuff...
Only the caster himself can see it!
It is invisible for everyone else exept people who are grouped with him.
No. I see other peoples Inner Light all the time which clues me into how many people are smart in pvp and how many are unprepared.
Within; Without.
