Unfortunately there aren't that many alternatives. DaoC is pretty much dead and so is my old GW2 PvP server ( EU Elona Reach ). Warhammer is literally dead. The other high population MMOs, WoW and FF14 ARR that is, do not offer this kind of PvP.

I guess there is still Eve, which is the gold standard if you want guild based PvP. To me it's too much like a second job though.

cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »

Unfortunately there aren't that many alternatives. DaoC is pretty much dead and so is my old GW2 PvP server ( EU Elona Reach ). Warhammer is literally dead. The other high population MMOs, WoW and FF14 ARR that is, do not offer this kind of PvP.

I guess there is still Eve, which is the gold standard if you want guild based PvP. To me it's too much like a second job though.

If you are truly still interested in DAoC I can tell you it most certainly is not dead. That old beast just keeps chugging along. They just released a huge update that increased the champion level to 15, new champ weapons, new champ skills. Other stuff that I can't remember right now. Broadsword took over the game and it sounds like they are really trying to make great changes.

If you can get past the graphics and the sometimes clunky UI it's still a great game. I'm heading back myself if things don’t get sorted here on the PvP front soon.

But having said that, I'm still crossing my fingers for this game. I really love it. Come on, Zenimax, I know you want my $15 a month for a long time, right?

Teargrants wrote: »

@Aoe_Barbecue‌ Ohh Tick the Deciever has led you down this dark path. Embrace the light of Dee Tick and realize that the darkness you perceive in Cyrodiil is merely the darkness upon your own heart from your lack of faith in Dee Tick.

Not even De Dee Deee Tick can save you from ZOS.

ZOS_ShannonM wrote: »

Hello, Folks.
We wanted to inform you that we have moved this thread to the Alliance War section, because it was a better fit for that category.
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Back to preaching to the choir it is then.

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

They need to implement a few changes at once:

First the server should stop counting victory points from midnight pacific time until 3 pm Eastern. That way night capping cannot help winning the campaign.

Second impulse should be blockable.

Third they should implement the anti zergball bomb they talked about 2 months ago so if people clustered close together they would instantly die if enough did it.

So you really want an American only server then. Just because the server is physically in the states does not mean others in other countries are not based o it. There are plenty of other people from many timezones that play on it. Your night time is my afternoon.

Rift could be an alternative. You PvP in battlegrounds there but cyrodiil was never open world pvp anyway. More some Kind of big battleground which never really worked or performed.
Rift does not have These Problems and has a very very good character System. With their souls you can Switch mostly in any role with every class. Roles are the three classical roles you almost alway Encounter in MMO - tank, DD and healer.

I am not sure what to do at the Moment but ESO just frustrates me

Makes me wonder if FC removal and population drop right after that is just coincidence.

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

FCs were bad. FCs remain bad. I think many of the people who were originally resistant to the change are now accepting and embracing it. It was good for call of duty play style, zerg, kill, die and repeat to fast farm AP but the lower AP generation of this new system could be augmented by narrower incremental changes between ranks.

I will say that I earn much less AP then before the camps went away, but I have more of it than ever now that I'm not going through a dozen camps a night.

I think it says something that some have quit the game but not the forum. It's sort of like when you break up with someone but keep going back for some guilt-ridden physical encounters. I guess sometimes it's hard to break up when there's love involved.

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

FCs were bad. FCs remain bad. I think many of the people who were originally resistant to the change are now accepting and embracing it. It was good for call of duty play style, zerg, kill, die and repeat to fast farm AP but the lower AP generation of this new system could be augmented by narrower incremental changes between ranks.

I do not play that much anymore on Thorn , mainly because of FC removal, so that makes me one. I am sure there are few others.

That's personal opinion Bull, I liked Cyro the way it was and if FC removal would've brought more people or at least population wasn't decreasing, I would've been first to admit that I was wrong , because I am not selfish person, I would like to see more people enjoying this game, despite what my preferences are.

I think it's important to note that this is a very busy week for a lot of students across the country, this could speak for some population decline.

Personally I want to start playing a smaller campaign even if that means I fight less, PVP isn't about AP for me. It's easy for me to give ZOS the time they need to fix Cyrodiil because I am a fan of the PVE. The company is clearly focused on making this game more Elder Scrolls like before they spend more resources on Cyrodiil.

I think the community could try to organize a way to even the population balance by choosing the designate a smaller campaign. Showing the mass of players in Cyrodiil two bar populations in Chillrend or Haderus could bring players who aren't part of guilds into these campaigns. I know when I'm looking to solo I'm going to a bigger campaign, so let's create another big campaign to spread the load of the server.

With queue times raising it only makes sense that we try to designate a new campaign for us to play in, why sit around and wait when we can be refining our skills in smaller scale combat? Many of the players asking for arenas should love the opportunity to have 5v5 as opposed to the 40v40 we see in Thornblade.

They could boost numbers by making lower lvl guys get more xp by sitting on the walls defending, while higher guys are out flanking a siege.

But with the number nerf, there are hardly enough to defend three keeps, little lone defend and attack at the same time.

ZOS, just made this a world War one trench warfare simulator. Hold what you have, wait for the other guy to attack, mow him down, attack while they move troops back to the front to, get pushed back, repeat until the Americans show up.