Purge bug not a priority?

Domander
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I noticed it wasn't in the notes today.
  • LonePirate
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    Here's a simple tip to help answer your question.

    If there is a bug or problem that is primarily a PVP only issue, then it is not a priority.
  • eventide03b14a_ESO
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    What is the Purge bug? I missed this one apparently.
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  • Sleep
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    What is the Purge bug? I missed this one apparently.

    Maybe it's the Purge vs. Elemental Wall issue.
  • Domander
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    What is the Purge bug? I missed this one apparently.

    Using purge makes aoe damage over duration abilities do damage faster. (as far as I know)
  • Talcyndl
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    This description was posted in our guild forums, and I'm copying it here so people understand:
    A Purge cast upon friendlies while an enemy Wall of Elements, Oil Pot, Veil of Blades, Caltrops or Standard of Might will cause the unticked DoTs to tick-off all at once (instead of removing them), creating health drops that are next to impossible to heal through. Not only defeats the purpose of Purge, but turns what should be a life-saver into a grave-digger. Basically, the ability does the exact opposite of what you are trying to prevent.

    What is worse, is Zeni appears to be covering up the problem and burying threads either so players don't start abusing the exploit or to bury it under the rug before a [snip] erupts. So, players are blamelessly purging along thinking they are helping are actually killing their allies (even if they read the forums, I wouldn't expect them to know - any info is very hard to find). Qualifies as game-breaking, IMHO.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]
    Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on December 9, 2014 8:13PM
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  • Domander
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    Talcyndl wrote: »
    This description was posted in our guild forums, and I'm copying it here so people understand:
    A Purge cast upon friendlies while an enemy Wall of Elements, Oil Pot, Veil of Blades, Caltrops or Standard of Might will cause the unticked DoTs to tick-off all at once (instead of removing them), creating health drops that are next to impossible to heal through. Not only defeats the purpose of Purge, but turns what should be a life-saver into a grave-digger. Basically, the ability does the exact opposite of what you are trying to prevent.

    What is worse, is Zeni appears to be covering up the problem and burying threads either so players don't start abusing the exploit or to bury it under the rug before a [snip] erupts. So, players are blamelessly purging along thinking they are helping are actually killing their allies (even if they read the forums, I wouldn't expect them to know - any info is very hard to find). Qualifies as game-breaking, IMHO.


    QFE

    also

    has anyone ran into this today? maybe it was stealth fixed? one can hope

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]
    Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on December 9, 2014 8:14PM
  • Talcyndl
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    Domander wrote: »
    has anyone ran into this today? maybe it was stealth fixed? one can hope

    I'd be happy to caltrops and pour oil on any AD or DC who would like to test it. :)
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  • Draxys
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    Domander wrote: »
    Talcyndl wrote: »
    This description was posted in our guild forums, and I'm copying it here so people understand:
    A Purge cast upon friendlies while an enemy Wall of Elements, Oil Pot, Veil of Blades, Caltrops or Standard of Might will cause the unticked DoTs to tick-off all at once (instead of removing them), creating health drops that are next to impossible to heal through. Not only defeats the purpose of Purge, but turns what should be a life-saver into a grave-digger. Basically, the ability does the exact opposite of what you are trying to prevent.

    What is worse, is Zeni appears to be covering up the problem and burying threads either so players don't start abusing the exploit or to bury it under the rug before a [snip] erupts. So, players are blamelessly purging along thinking they are helping are actually killing their allies (even if they read the forums, I wouldn't expect them to know - any info is very hard to find). Qualifies as game-breaking, IMHO.


    QFE

    also

    has anyone ran into this today? maybe it was stealth fixed? one can hope

    nah, it's too big of an issue for them to stealth it, they won't say anything until it's fixed and who knows when that will be

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]
    Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on December 9, 2014 8:14PM
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Domander wrote: »
    Paying customers not a priority?

    FTFY
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  • david.haypreub18_ESO
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    This is a game-breaking bug that needs to be fixed immediately. I am surprised they did not fix it during today's maintenance.
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    Yes, Gina actually said that (at least regarding Rushed Ceremony) right here:
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    This is a game-breaking bug that needs to be fixed immediately. I am surprised they did not fix it during today's maintenance.

    You shouldn't be.
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  • Domander
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    Bugs I call gamebreaking usually take a week or 2 to fix... which is entirely too long, but this one has been around a lot longer than that.
  • Darlgon
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    Wow.. glad to hear about this. as I never heard of it before.. BUMMER. Now I have to apologize to all EP on Thornblade over the weekend.
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  • k2blader
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    Thank you for that posted description as I was confused what specific abilities/actions were being affected. Purge can be used on many things..
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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Thanks for the description about what's happening, all. We're going to make sure this gets looked at.
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  • cozmon3c_ESO
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    im sure we brought this up a few weeks ago gina, hopefully this reiteration will show eric that we are players of this game too.
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Thanks for the description about what's happening, all. We're going to make sure this gets looked at.

    Is this honestly the first you've heard of this? It's been described on the forums repeatedly and has been a major, major problem in Cyrodiil.

    PVPers feel very much like an ignored minority and this response to this thread about this major of an issue just shows us that our feelings are justified.

    Is there /any/ sort of statement you can make that would assuage our misgivings?
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  • Cody
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    Thanks for the description about what's happening, all. We're going to make sure this gets looked at.

    im sure you shall

    just remember to hit the "fix" button for it, or whatever it is y'all do to pretend to fix PvP things
    Edited by Cody on December 9, 2014 3:12AM
  • Teargrants
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    Thanks for the description about what's happening, all. We're going to make sure this gets looked at.
    Whoa whoa, looked at? Not to argue over semantics, but if this is really the state of where this bug is at in the 'fix cycle', I'm at a loss for words. This is a bug that has existed since beta. It was revealed to the player base at large months ago when several people did detailed testing and /bugged it in game. There were numerous threads at the time - a number of which were sunk/hidden by mods, presumably in an effort to prevent the bug from being abused. However, we were assured that a fix for purge would be upcoming.

    News flash! Hiding those threads did nothing to help the health of PvP, the cat was out of the bag before the threads were even made. That is why you've seen the meta shift to blockade spam for the last 2 months. If you want to purge w/o killing your group, you need to negate first, then purge inside the negate.

    So please, tell me that there's just a lack of communication between the bug fix team and community managers/mods. I have to hope that that's the case.
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  • KBKB
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    Thanks for the description about what's happening, all. We're going to make sure this gets looked at.

    After you add the dark brotherhood lawl?
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Just did a little digging and looks like the team is already aware of this issue; this is not the first time we've seen it. We'll let you know as soon as we know when this is getting fixed! Sorry for the confusion, that's what I get for trying to do work late ;)
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  • purgation
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    So, if I am reading this correctly, this is a regression bug re-introduced by the last patch. Epic.
  • Wreuntzylla
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    No. This has been part of skilled play for a couple of months now!
  • Xeniph
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    Of coarse this bug is already known. After all " They are players too!"

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  • Columba
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    Thanks for the description about what's happening, all. We're going to make sure this gets looked at.
    Wow, smh. How could you not have been aware of this? Saddened by this.
  • prose08b14a_ESO
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    Just did a little digging and looks like the team is already aware of this issue; this is not the first time we've seen it. We'll let you know as soon as we know when this is getting fixed! Sorry for the confusion, that's what I get for trying to do work late ;)

    Are you guys just waiting for update 6 to release any larger-than-minor fixes to anything? DK Reflect, Purge, Impulse/HealingSprings LagSpamfiestas, etc? Will those even try to be on the patch notes? Or will all of this be put on the special waiting lists to be buried in obscurity as the only people complaining are PVPers and they'll just unsub given enough time?
  • SienneYviete
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    Thanks for the description about what's happening, all. We're going to make sure this gets looked at.

    So in other words
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  • stylepolice
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    Thanks for the description about what's happening, all. We're going to make sure this gets looked at.

    When a post like this gets only 7 LOL and no Agree/Awesome you know that something is amiss...
  • Thudunblundur
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    Seem Gina was working late and missed that the relevant team already knows about this. She says so in a post further down the thread.

    As far as I can tell, they have far too few people working on this sort of thing and far too many people checking up on excessive use of erasors.
  • Sanct16
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    Talcyndl wrote: »
    This description was posted in our guild forums, and I'm copying it here so people understand:
    A Purge cast upon friendlies while an enemy Wall of Elements, Oil Pot, Veil of Blades, Caltrops or Standard of Might will cause the unticked DoTs to tick-off all at once (instead of removing them), creating health drops that are next to impossible to heal through. Not only defeats the purpose of Purge, but turns what should be a life-saver into a grave-digger. Basically, the ability does the exact opposite of what you are trying to prevent.

    What is worse, is Zeni appears to be covering up the problem and burying threads either so players don't start abusing the exploit or to bury it under the rug before a [snip] erupts. So, players are blamelessly purging along thinking they are helping are actually killing their allies (even if they read the forums, I wouldn't expect them to know - any info is very hard to find). Qualifies as game-breaking, IMHO.

    This description is just wrong.
    It just makes ground effects tick twice as fast on you when havibg the purge effectnkn you that decreases the duration of negative effects on you.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]
    Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on December 9, 2014 8:21PM
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