MSchroeder wrote: »

Everyone on the team absolutely wants to include Daedric Artifacts in ESO at some point in the future. We’ve got a lot of questions we need to answer internally before we settle on a plan to do so: We want to make sure that Daedric Artifacts aren’t outclassed by your typical gear, and can be worth searching for at any time in the game’s life cycle; we want to preserve their uniqueness, but still make them accessible (at least potentially) to as many people as possible; we want them to have interesting effects that aren’t directly comparable to anything players have access to; we don’t want a player who has a Daedric Artifact to forever be removed from the joy of finding and experimenting with new equipment and item sets.

We’ve discussed these questions (and others) often, and we have some ideas as to how we’ll solve them. However, while we’re not ready to discuss any actual designs or plans yet, know that we still want to include Daedric Artifacts in Elder Scrolls Online at some (undetermined!) point in the future.

Since we’re all here discussing discussing Daedric Artifacts, though… What’s the most important single facet of Daedric Artifacts to you? We’re curious to hear what you most want to see about them.

Borrowing from the UESPWIKI for Oblivion, (which is how I remember it from that chapter of Elder Scrolls):

UESPWIKI: Oblivion wrote:

Artifacts are ancient items of significant power, fame, and historic relevance. Many artifacts appear to have a mind of their own, changing form and dispersing across Tamriel at random, never staying with one owner for long. The Daedric Princes of Oblivion pour pieces of their power into artifacts, and gift them to mortals to spread their influence in return for this power; an example of such an artifact is Azura's Star. Not all artifacts are Daedric in nature or origin. Some, such as the Staff of Magnus, date back to the creation of Mundus. Others, like Keening, were created by mortals. A few form naturally, such as the seven Star Teeth. Several artifacts, such as Volendrung, were originally created by mortals before they fell under Daedric influence.
Artifacts are near-impossible to permanently destroy, and usually resurface in several years; notable exceptions include Fearstruck and Umbra. Most artifacts possess powerful enchantments, superior craftsmanship, or both. Artifacts come in many forms, including weapons, armor, rings, books, and mundane items. They often go by several names, and are well-known to the people of Tamriel. Daedric artifacts are predominately made of ebony. Doom-driven heroes are known to come into contact with many artifacts, and the prophecies of the Elder Scrolls sometimes relate to a specific artifact.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Artifacts

So, basically, they:

1. Are MORE POWERFUL and outclass your typical gear
2. Unique (Only one player can have at a time, in this case, per server.)
3. Only remain with a player for a short period of time. So it goes POOOF out of their inventory in... a few days, a week, etc. (Which, by the way, calls out for a title for holding it, and also one for holding more than one.)
4. Can be found again. (But highly unlikely.)
5. Occasionally turn on thier owner. (For example, Wabbajack turns you into a chicken for 10 min and teleports you to the Shad Astula academy.)
6. Non-tradeable even between characters.. after all, they are a gift from a Daedra/Aedra to that character.

I wrote something up a few days ago on this, items temporarily available in pvp to offset a lop sided pvp server. Not everyone will ever use them... but it's more likely you will come in contact with someone who is. Think running elder scrolls... but fun...

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/142036/daedric-prince-weapons

Laplace wrote: »

MSchroeder wrote: »

Since we’re all here discussing discussing Daedric Artifacts, though… What’s the most important single facet of Daedric Artifacts to you? We’re curious to hear what you most want to see about them.

The uniqueness of the Artifacts must be preserved to SOME degree. That said, there has to be a decent middle-ground between one-of-a-kind (imagine the rage if one player gets it, and then leaves the game, forever removing the item from the game and therefore from other players) and easily obtained (SHATTERS immersion).

I think a good model would be the Legendary Weapons from Guild Wars 2: They required an insane amount of grinding, and while they were indeed awesome and pretty to look at, they weren't overpowered and really weren't that different from other top-tier weapons in the game, though they had some unique stats/traits.

That said: They must be bind-on-pickup. Imagine seeing "WTS MACE OF MOLAG BALL 100K!11 WILL COD" in /zone everywhere you go.

I completely agree that it must remain unique, but needing to grind for it endlessy would heavily favour hardcore players, and put all the other types far behind (lore, casual), especially the RPers, because they play the game but do not get rewarded.

Making it bind on pickup is inevitable for me as well, but it should also be increasingly difficult to get it each consecutive time. (1st time -> 0.01%, 2nd time -> 0.0001%, 3rd time -> 0.000001% ... )

An idea from my side:

Every week, all players are drawn into a lottery, the one who wins will get the weapon as a drop (scaled to the character he/she's currently on with), from the next daedric enemy killed. It would be legendary (cannot be deconstructed or sold, but disappears after after the new one is dropped) and has stats similar to those (V14 Version):

Stamina type weapons (Bow, swords, axes etc.):

Trait:
- Precise: 10% weapon crit
- Charged: Increases enchantment charges by 250%

Enchantment:
- 2% to fear the attacked target (apply a medium damage dot for bosses)
- Increases weapon power by 15 for 10s
- Deals 50 poison damage and restores 20 Stamina
- 5% Chance upon killing a non-daedric enemy to gain a soulgem, (soulgem is on the level of the killed enemy) This gives a small long term benefit for the wearer.

Magicka type weapons (Staves):

Trait:
- Precise: 10% spell crit
- - Charged: Increases enchantment charges by 250%

Enchantment:
- 2% to fear the attacked target (apply a medium damage dot for bosses)
- Increases spell power by 15 for 10s
- Deals 50 flame/frost/shock damage and restores 20 Magicka
- 5% Chance upon killing a non-daedric enemy to gain a soulgem, (soulgem is on the level of the killed enemy) This gives a small long term benefit for the wearer.

Defensive (S&B):

Trait:
Precise:
Reinforced: Increases this items armor by 40% and same amount of spell resist(remember armor will be more meaningful after 1.6)
- Charged: Increases enchantment charges by 250%

Enchantment:
- 2% to fear the attacked target (grants a medium amount of spell resist/armor against bosses)
- Increases block mitigation by 8% for 10s
- Taunts all nearby (6m) enemies and restores 30 HP
- 5% Chance upon killing a non-daedric enemy to gain a soulgem, (soulgem is on the level of the killed enemy) This gives a small long term benefit for the wearer.

Here's a vid of how the Wabbajack works right now:



Would be a lot of fun to have it as a real weapon.

AlexDougherty wrote: »

diabeticDemon18 wrote: »

That would be unbalanced though. If only one player can have it, then it's not really fair to the rest of the players who can't get it. In an MMO, often times decisions are made on what is most fair for people. I think if they added them, they should be very rare drops from very challenging bosses and are on par with the best gear currently in game, but not OP as shane

^This.

Each Daedric Artifact is unique, there can be only one.

So you would have twelve or so artifacts in the game (not counting Skeleton Key or the Book), each with only one owner.

And then you come to balance, if they are the most powerful version of that type of weapon, then they would have to be restricted to VR14 players, otherwise they would unbalance the game (imagine a level 9 player with a sword that kills with only a few stroke (Ebony Blade).

Yet 10972473247 people each defeated Molag Bol to hit vet ranks..........Faulty logic imo. With alot of them doing it at the same time fighting the Dark Lord simultaneously.......

They will be integrated when ZOS lets gear be alot more impactful than it is now. The Champion system is part of that process.

Here's a list:

1. Azura's Star
2. Dawnbreaker
3. Mace of Molag Bol
4. Ebony Armor
5. Ebony Blade
6. Masque of Clavicus Vile
7. Mehrune's Razor
8. Oghma Infinitum
9. Namira's Ring
10. Sanguine Rose
11. Savior's Hide
12. Ring of Hircine
13. Skeleton Key
14. Skull of Corruption
15. Spell Breaker
16. Volendrung
17. Wabbajack
18. Gray Cowl of Nocturnal
19. Umbra Sword
20. Ring of Khajiiti
21. Goldbrand
22. Eye of Nocturnal
23. Orb of Vaermina
24. Staff of Everscamp
25. Gambolpuddy
26. Daedric Crescent
27. Scourge
28. Belt of Sanguine (multiple)
29. Amulet of Sanguine (multiple)
30. Ring of Sanguine (multiple)
31. Spear of Bitter Mercy

Many of those never had any real use. Many were in fact just quest items. But that's about the complete list.

As for Aedric Artifacts:

1. Staff of Magnus
2. Auriel's Bow
3. Auriel's Shield
4. Stendarr's Hammer
5. Chrysamere

and of course:

The Amulet of Kings

I believe some have made appearances, but none have actively been weapons.

If they were to implement these, I'd hope to see a completely different quality for them.

Neat idea but would cause too much of a public outcry. Especially on campaigns where 1 faction reigns supreme on the constant.