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  • Ad.Absurdum
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    Palindrome wrote: »
    i have been playing mmo's for about 15 years and in that time i have never had a ping this high.
    on average in other games I would see 15-25ms pings in this game my average is 90-95 (and thats a good day not in cyrodiil)

    i just do not understand how with newer technology we are getting service 4x worse, it makes no sense

    this though i have not played that many years yet ;) i never expirienced that kind of ping and lag in any other game and did also a speed/connection test - everything fine with my internet connection. and since people get lags at the same time, it is not very probable that it has anything to do with my internet connection (or anyone else's).
  • neueregel
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    Has anyone that has this 'lag' tried logging in without ANY addons to see if there is a difference? I had to remove some of mine because of the 'perceived' lag I was experiencing.
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  • dharbert
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    dharbert wrote: »
    It's not just Cyrodiil. Something has changed recently. I used to never get lag in PvE, now it's like I'm playing a stop-motion animation almost everywhere I go. Nothing has changed on my end. I'm getting infinite loading screens at least 4 times per session which I have to end process on ESO to get out of.

    Have you try defragment your hd , I have done this last week and I have better results.

    Me I lag only where im near of exemple ; fire , magical light etc..

    SSD's don't have to be defragged. It is recommended that you never defrag an SSD. Having said that, no, defrag is not the issue. If it was, every other program and game in my computer would be running crappy.
  • Cherryblossom
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    morvegil wrote: »
    We understand the frustration expressed in this thread and others like it. Though we may not respond to every one, we do read them and are very aware of the game performance issues some of you are experiencing in Cyrodiil. There are many contributing factors that can potentially result in lag and game performance issues. Each time we identify one, we do all we can on our end to make things run more smoothly. For example, we have identified an issue with particle effects staying on player characters longer than they should. We're currently investigating and working toward a fix.

    We know that this may not be the immediate all-encompassing fix or answer everyone is hoping for; we want you to know that improving game performance and reducing lag in Cyrodiil is an ongoing effort we're dedicated to.

    Thanks for your response. Who can I contact about getting a subscription credit? I work a 9-5 job, eat dinner..then hop on only to have to log off because the game isn't really playable. I feel like I am paying for a service that I cant use at my convenience as advertised.

    My only concern is this seems to be a recent in the last 1-3 months, before we have the same population in the Cyrodiil but now....

    I think we now have less in Cyrodill and have worse lag. I have voted the only way I can, I have cancelled my subscription. I may come back if improvements are made.
  • Erock25
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    We understand the frustration expressed in this thread and others like it. Though we may not respond to every one, we do read them and are very aware of the game performance issues some of you are experiencing in Cyrodiil. There are many contributing factors that can potentially result in lag and game performance issues. Each time we identify one, we do all we can on our end to make things run more smoothly. For example, we have identified an issue with particle effects staying on player characters longer than they should. We're currently investigating and working toward a fix.

    We know that this may not be the immediate all-encompassing fix or answer everyone is hoping for; we want you to know that improving game performance and reducing lag in Cyrodiil is an ongoing effort we're dedicated to.

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  • EllieBlue
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    Up until this week, I have never had any problem with lagging. However, in the last 3 days/evening, I have encountered the worst, that varied between unable to log in, keep getting disconnected and/or constantly dying (every 1-2 minutes) because everything on the screen is frozen or stuck. This is in PVE. Tonight, I gave up after 45 minutes because there is no sense in trying anymore. It's very frustrating. Hopefully this will get a look into very soon because it's one thing to encounter bug etc in game but it's another if one can't play at all. Please put a priority on this issue. I have never posted a complaint before but I think this issue is really dire.
    Edited by EllieBlue on December 2, 2014 8:23PM
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  • Sublime
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    I have never had any lag in PvE. The only thing I notice in PvE it takes a bit longer to load zones with many players inside than the ones with fewer people inside.

    If I start playing immediately the game usually lags hard until it's fully loaded (1-2min), but if I wait 20-30secs everything goes smooth.
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  • cracker81
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    I would say it could be on my end. Due to I live in Germany at the moment and everything moves slow in my opinion here in Germany. When I say everything, I actually mean everything.
    1. Internet being fixed if down about 2 weeks.(Customer service may hang up on you if they feel like it and the cable guy can miss an appointment that has a time range of 8 am to 8 pm on the day of the appointment.) hint don't expect him/her on the first visit.
    2. To get internet turned on 2 weeks to a month. I am actually talking about turned on. You have all the wires/router installed into the home.
    3. If you need it installed into your home hahah 3 to 6 months. Meaning you don't have it installed into the home.
    4. Lag could be caused by another internet company. Meaning TKS owns all telephone poles.

    I travel a lot around the World and live but I got to say this is one of the slowest paced places in the World.

    5. Road construction every where but I don't see improvement after it has been completed. It can take from 1 week to 4 years to fix a road(it took 3 months to put up 4 signs and they closed the road for it). One town is cut in half with road construction it has been that way for 3 yrs. So, only way to get to the other side is to walk or drive 30 minutes.

    Maybe average 5 holidays a month or is it the 35hr or less work weeks?

    What really makes little sense to me is for a country that seems to be full of small villages, everything runs slow, and customer service is a joke. Why is cost of living 20 percent higher than Chicago or New York?

    I have to ask myself why did ESO put the server in Germany?

    I do play NA side though but still.
  • Sylvyr
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    It's amazing these problems make it to live... If they couldn't test for it before, how do they test now? PvP fights with 20 employees?

    Well, I'm glad they'er looking into it, but not getting hopeful it'll be fixed any time soon given the way things have been going.
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  • MADshadowman
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    Yeah, i just quit pvp after only 10 minutes of playing when the lagging started and quickly turned into players hanging in the air frozen. Thanks for that.
  • Arioco396
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    We understand the frustration expressed in this thread and others like it. Though we may not respond to every one, we do read them and are very aware of the game performance issues some of you are experiencing in Cyrodiil. There are many contributing factors that can potentially result in lag and game performance issues. Each time we identify one, we do all we can on our end to make things run more smoothly. For example, we have identified an issue with particle effects staying on player characters longer than they should. We're currently investigating and working toward a fix.

    We know that this may not be the immediate all-encompassing fix or answer everyone is hoping for; we want you to know that improving game performance and reducing lag in Cyrodiil is an ongoing effort we're dedicated to.

    and combat bug ?
  • Aeradon
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    Amazing how I log on to the forums after a few months and I still read the same issue.

    Particle effects lingering around was the reason you gave and apparently fixed multiple times since the major lighting patch. And combat bug has been around forever?

    Until these are all fixed, my character stays VR12 just as I left him. Call me a $ucker but my sub has never been canceled, in hopes of supporting the game until maturity, apparently its gonna take longer than I thought. (I know some of my friends and guildies are keeping their subs active too, though most of us kept quiet about it.)

    Please listen to your players, I see the same suggestions over and over again even as of now. Some of these fresh advices that I see on the forums now are even exactly the same as the ones given by beta players during initial launch.

    If you haven't already, I would advise setting up a division just to test other similar products and evaluate them thoroughly from a consumer's perspective. I was surprised to see an email written personally to thank me for my input with ETA of fix for the overlooked matter and suggestions, that's professionalism and respectable for having the guts to acknowledge own department's fault. I'm not saying it's compulsory for companies to do so and turn it into some norm that no longer means anything, but there's good and bad in every company's management skills.

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  • Knootewoot
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    Please roll back to launch-day when PvP was working
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  • smee_z
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    The latency being displayed in-game (lower left by default) should be treated as how long does the server take to respond to actions you make in the game. It is different from your network latency, the time your client takes to reach their mega servers.

    So clearly when the in-game latency displays 999+, the mega server is lagging behind responding to your actions and thus the unresponsiveness. This is server side problem.

    I play from Southeast Asia and my network latency is at least 256ms. Game is very playable except when the in-game latency goes 999+ while my network latency is still at 256ms. I can reach the server fine but the server can't respond quickly to my actions in the open world.

    Dear ZENI, perhaps it's high time to remove the 'special lighting effects' introduced in 1.2.3.
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  • pppontus
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    Cyrodiil? What Cyrodiil? I stopped PvPing months ago since it was so freaking laggy, and then the lag found it's way to PvE so now I can do exactly nothing to escape lag.

    It's worrying that you just now realise there's lag in Cyro. That means it will take half a year until you acknowledge the lag outside Cyrodiil? :|
  • Moonshadow66
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    Hybris6 wrote: »
    I prefer the forums over the game nowadays.. much less lag here :open_mouth:

    Despite the lag in-game, I still prefer it over the forums.. much less LOL's there ;) (and no, the LOL to your comment wasn't me^^)
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  • stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO
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    For example, we have identified an issue with particle effects staying on player characters longer than they should. We're currently investigating and working toward a fix.

    Stray particle effects is a bug that was looked into and supposedly fixed months ago. Sigh. I guess it was only half fixed.
  • crowfl56
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    PLEASE PLEASE just give us the ability to turn on or off particle effects, thus fixing most of each person's lag experience. If you are in a large group fight, with both side's spamming their char's biggest brightest most dazzeling spells constantly, BANG lag fest. With the ability to turn that light show off, your computer will run nice and smooth.
    Edited by crowfl56 on December 3, 2014 4:43PM
  • stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO
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    You can set the "PFX" to low quality in the settings, but if you could turn it off you would not have much of a clue what happens in a fight. Graphics effects are a pretty fundamental part of the battle mechanics of the game.

    Granted, running blind would be better than lagging out...
  • HydroCanuck
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    I live in Canada. 80Mb/s download on FibreOp and one hell of a beast of a gaming PC. No lag for me.
  • Dreyloch
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    We understand the frustration expressed in this thread and others like it. Though we may not respond to every one, we do read them and are very aware of the game performance issues some of you are experiencing in Cyrodiil. There are many contributing factors that can potentially result in lag and game performance issues. Each time we identify one, we do all we can on our end to make things run more smoothly. For example, we have identified an issue with particle effects staying on player characters longer than they should. We're currently investigating and working toward a fix.

    We know that this may not be the immediate all-encompassing fix or answer everyone is hoping for; we want you to know that improving game performance and reducing lag in Cyrodiil is an ongoing effort we're dedicated to.

    No, it seems you don't understand the frustration. I know that's the PR thing to say, I'm in customer service myself. But we both know it's total BS. When you have an issue that has been all over your forums for MONTHS ON END. You need to drop wtf your doing and FIX IT!!! We can wait for the content, and quite frankly I only PvP in this game, so I could care less about any end game raiders crying about content.At least your content isn't so lagged you can't play.

    Soo many people that play this game have lives outside of it. Families, kids, work, school etc etc. The one thing you want when your PAYING for a subscription, is to be able to enjoy it with what little time you have. Currently we CAN NOT do that. Zenimax has failed us epically, and will close it's doors once people realize there's no point in paying your salary anymore. Fix the problem...Yesterday!

    P.S. Stop with the BS about our internet connections. EU might have that problem, but anyone smart enough to play this game is smart enough to know if their internet is being whacky. Just stop.It's on YOUR end. Not ours.
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  • Fenris
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    I'm not experiencing any lag at all :/ I don't have an excessively fast internet or computer, and I run on high settings. I do get the infinite loading screens still though, probably 1 in 5 times I change zones. Its worse when changing to the capitals where pledges are offered.
  • davedesigns
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    Logged into PvP last night and experienced horrible lag the entire time before the stupid game just crashed. No add-ons active - medium graphics and particles on low.

    None of my skills would fire correctly, for example Ambush would do the character animation and sound effect, but my character would not teleport or damage the other player...

    Other players would just be seen skipping around the screen, no smooth movement. Ping was 150-300 the whole time no matter where I was, and I have a great low latency internet connection.

    With no 'Road Ahead' so far this week, I'm finding it harder and harder to justify
    paying for this train wreck they call a game...
  • HydroCanuck
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    Dreyloch wrote: »
    We understand the frustration expressed in this thread and others like it. Though we may not respond to every one, we do read them and are very aware of the game performance issues some of you are experiencing in Cyrodiil. There are many contributing factors that can potentially result in lag and game performance issues. Each time we identify one, we do all we can on our end to make things run more smoothly. For example, we have identified an issue with particle effects staying on player characters longer than they should. We're currently investigating and working toward a fix.

    We know that this may not be the immediate all-encompassing fix or answer everyone is hoping for; we want you to know that improving game performance and reducing lag in Cyrodiil is an ongoing effort we're dedicated to.

    No, it seems you don't understand the frustration. I know that's the PR thing to say, I'm in customer service myself. But we both know it's total BS. When you have an issue that has been all over your forums for MONTHS ON END. You need to drop wtf your doing and FIX IT!!! We can wait for the content, and quite frankly I only PvP in this game, so I could care less about any end game raiders crying about content.At least your content isn't so lagged you can't play.

    Soo many people that play this game have lives outside of it. Families, kids, work, school etc etc. The one thing you want when your PAYING for a subscription, is to be able to enjoy it with what little time you have. Currently we CAN NOT do that. Zenimax has failed us epically, and will close it's doors once people realize there's no point in paying your salary anymore. Fix the problem...Yesterday!

    P.S. Stop with the BS about our internet connections. EU might have that problem, but anyone smart enough to play this game is smart enough to know if their internet is being whacky. Just stop.It's on YOUR end. Not ours.
    If it was on their end and not yours though, we'd all be affected...I'm not

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    I am 100% with the "stop the [snip] ". I am also afraid that once enough damage has been done it is too late. We saw this in AC2 and Vanguard, we also saw this in Darkfall 1, which eventually they addmitted they failed, shut it down and rebuilt a new client, which is way better.
    AT LEAST THEY CAME OUT AND ADMITTED IT. Zenimax will never do this, their buying time till D Day.
    Such a good looking game too, but I will not be sad the day it goes away. One thing I can not stand is lying and cheats.
    This game is soon reaching one year and nothing important has been addressed the way it should have been nor do I think it will be fixed. A certain company doesn't know how to fix their mess.
    Time to start over maybe.
    DAOC is looking so much better again. SUB is due to run out tomorrow, thank god.

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  • Mud_Puppy
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    The lag people are referring to has nothing to do with framerate or large fights in your immediate area. There could be a large fight across the map and you will still get the lag.

    Your frames will be fine, but your actions are delayed if they work at all. Those that say they they aren't experiencing these problems may be confusing latency with fps.

    This is an issue across the entire playerbase.
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  • Giraffon
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    It's not a bad idea to defrag now and then. Consider how many times your system has crashed out of the game. Those files are likely fragmented. It's not a super fix, but definitely something you should consider doing on a regular basis.

    I have noticed that my PvE sessions are lagging more than in the past, but only when I have another computer on the router competing for bandwidth. Now in the past this wasn't an issue, so I wonder if the game's more recent patches have made it a little more hungry for bandwidth? I haven't bothered to actually review logs or anything. It's just an unscientific observation of my own.
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  • Dreyloch
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    Dreyloch wrote: »
    We understand the frustration expressed in this thread and others like it. Though we may not respond to every one, we do read them and are very aware of the game performance issues some of you are experiencing in Cyrodiil. There are many contributing factors that can potentially result in lag and game performance issues. Each time we identify one, we do all we can on our end to make things run more smoothly. For example, we have identified an issue with particle effects staying on player characters longer than they should. We're currently investigating and working toward a fix.

    We know that this may not be the immediate all-encompassing fix or answer everyone is hoping for; we want you to know that improving game performance and reducing lag in Cyrodiil is an ongoing effort we're dedicated to.

    No, it seems you don't understand the frustration. I know that's the PR thing to say, I'm in customer service myself. But we both know it's total BS. When you have an issue that has been all over your forums for MONTHS ON END. You need to drop wtf your doing and FIX IT!!! We can wait for the content, and quite frankly I only PvP in this game, so I could care less about any end game raiders crying about content.At least your content isn't so lagged you can't play.

    Soo many people that play this game have lives outside of it. Families, kids, work, school etc etc. The one thing you want when your PAYING for a subscription, is to be able to enjoy it with what little time you have. Currently we CAN NOT do that. Zenimax has failed us epically, and will close it's doors once people realize there's no point in paying your salary anymore. Fix the problem...Yesterday!

    P.S. Stop with the BS about our internet connections. EU might have that problem, but anyone smart enough to play this game is smart enough to know if their internet is being whacky. Just stop.It's on YOUR end. Not ours.
    If it was on their end and not yours though, we'd all be affected...I'm not

    Do you PVP on the NA servers at prime US time? If not then you don't have a dog in this fight. /shrug
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  • ers101284b14_ESO
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    Jessica tries to be more open and responsive like people asked for. Then after reading these comments all I can think is.

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    Edited by ers101284b14_ESO on December 3, 2014 7:08PM
  • deepseamk20b14_ESO
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    Last few nights I actually just stopped playing because the lag ruined the game for me. I'd be on for a few minutes and just be completely overwhelmed by how bad lag was, so I logged. If this keeps happening I don't know the point of paying for a sub for a game I barely play.
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