Gratz to DC for sticking it out despite being the lowest pop server 20 out of 24 hours.

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

I'm confused. You're 468 ahead with a day left and that's mathematically impossible? How?

Or do you mean AD need 468 per hour?

The latter. 468 per hour.

The scores are:

EP: 97739
AD: 85570
DC: 84895

There are 26 points evaluations remaining in the campaign.

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Interesting. How did they let you run away with it?

In EU whenever a faction gets 2-3k points lead, it gets pummeled back to its gates by the combined efforts of the other two factions. Not combined as in communicating, but combined as in knowing to attack the faction in the lead to even the scores.

As a result, all factions are within 1k points of each other as we enter the final 2 days. Pretty existing stuff.

That said, congrats to EP in NA for their win

I'm sure a lot of folks will come out of the woodwork to say horrible things here, but my response will be --

Being tenacious on defense. The attempts to pound us back to our gates happened, many times, but we'd cling to Arrius like a man adrift with a life preserver. As long as we held that, we'd wait for those blue/yellow crossed swords to show up at a keep and then rush back out and regain our lost territory.

Teamwork!

We did pretty darn good this campaign. good job EP

Bramir wrote: »

Its funny...the less PUG group leaders we have demanding TS for their groups, the better we do because now because there are always PUGs running, and everyone can group if they try.

Why would PUG group leaders demand TS? They would be cutting off most of the players interested in joining the pug "raid" and they would be putting themselves in contention with guild organised open raids.

I know which I'd rather join.

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

The irony being that AD was the only faction to collect a low population bonus this entire cycle. They got it a few times in the early, early morning.

Same happened in EU. Nobody gets low-pop bonuses these days.

My guess is: they released this bonus logic, it was bugged as hell, it was silently and stealthily removed.

Pathfinder wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Gratz to DC for sticking it out despite being the lowest pop server 20 out of 24 hours.

This was from Sat. 2000EST

This was more-or-less the norm for most of November. I think Dragon Age and WoW played are large part in stealing players.

Ishammael wrote: »

Pathfinder wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Gratz to DC for sticking it out despite being the lowest pop server 20 out of 24 hours.

This was from Sat. 2000EST

This was more-or-less the norm for most of November. I think Dragon Age and WoW played are large part in stealing players.

DC would typically be locked for only 2-4 hours most nights. Last to lock, first to unlock.

Ep's numbers were too great for DC to continue pushing that faction. Ep was mostly passively attacking then pushing back and collection on the string of dc players filtering in to them for easy kills. DC attempted to push AD but they didn't do much better there either. I believe DC lost its #1 pug warlord and also, a large immigration of DC player who left to AD and EP due to excessive beatdown. The population is very small now and we still have guilds that are simply not interested in the campaign itself though they claim to be.

Kaghei wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Interesting. How did they let you run away with it?

Because ad are stupid.
Guilds would stay on late when ep's main crew went off, take their scrolls and not expect to be double teamed during prime time. I see two main reasons for this, 1 guild quit and 1 guild changed faction.
People need to realise that 400 potential points for 10 hours is not more points that 200 for 5 days.

This. The night flipping, in the end, cost AD more than it gained them. They'd lose scrolls for several days at a time to have the red/blue scrolls for a handful of hours and emp for about the same duration.

EP spends a lot of effort pulling the reigns on emperor pushes from their side. Why? Because there's no reason to invite the double team and aside from the HP buff, Emperor gives nothing that services the scoreboard.

One powerful player does not equate to the massive double teaming that's about to happen. The few times we had emp, scrolls/Arrius were always a higher priority to maintain than the Ruby Throne.

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

From this point out, on NA side, any rerolls or new players should be steered towards DC. They need the manpower.

ZOS really needs to allow players to change factions. I understand there might be some leveling and content issues, so why not allow players to change their faction once they have completed Cadwell's Gold and they have earned the Complete X number of Quests achievement in each of the 15 major zones? These players will be VR9 or better in most circumstances and they will have completed the bulk of the faction specific content. A faction change would be a nice reward for all of that game play.

LonePirate wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

From this point out, on NA side, any rerolls or new players should be steered towards DC. They need the manpower.

ZOS really needs to allow players to change factions. I understand there might be some leveling and content issues, so why not allow players to change their faction once they have completed Cadwell's Gold and they have earned the Complete X number of Quests achievement in each of the 15 major zones? These players will be VR9 or better in most circumstances and they will have completed the bulk of the faction specific content. A faction change would be a nice reward for all of that game play.

Agreed. Throttle the change so you can't switch to a heavily populated faction to maintain integrity, or just make it free to the lower population, paid to the higher populations.

Either way, DC needs more bodies. If you're a new player reading this, or an old player thinking of a switch -- go to DC.

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Winning emperorship has proven to be more hindrance than a perk here too. The moment you get it you get DP'ed by both other factions.

In one occasion when DC got Emp in TB (Jamyy, I think it was), they lost it in a record of 1h09m and then got pushed even harder after that.

We have late-night, early morning capping here too, but the populations seem very balanced here so the scrolls return quickly after a double-teaming and then the game is about preserving score balance.

And DC in EU are as strong if not stronger than the other factions this time round. They have 2-3 large teams and 2-3 medium-sized but strong teams too. It's been pretty fun bar the dreaded lag at prime-time.

This entire post will be an IMO post.

IMO, the Emperorship is a carrot to incentivize a powerful alliance (either good momentum, high population, or just good players) into pushing for something that does not directly benefit their scoreboard standing while provoking the double team on themselves.

Basically, ZOS wanted to make sure that the faction that was in the lead was doing something that would cheese off the other two alliances enough to beat them back down into a semblance of balance.

Which is precisely why I have no interest in pushing emperor and try to influence EP to follow the same course. *


* -- with the exception of pushing it once to get emp for a toon that's never been crowned before, and always giving up emp to save Arrius/Scrolls.