A tip for those hunting the Dwemer Motif

QuadroTony · November 2014

one tip. if you logout fast, and if you dont enter to the last room, containers was full again, but all constructs you killed dont appear again!

- if you logout for too long, you will start quest again in the elder Root, and all mobs will alive

- if you clear all rooms even last one, your containers will not reset, and after each logout you will see empty containers, so dont go to the last room, i think

Bleakraven · November 2014

Too bad I already completed that quest

EQBallzz · November 2014

QuadroTony wrote: »

one tip. if you logout fast, and if you dont enter to the last room, containers was full again, but all constructs you killed dont appear again!

- if you logout for too long, you will start quest again in the elder Root, and all mobs will alive

- if you clear all rooms even last one, your containers will not reset, and after each logout you will see empty containers, so dont go to the last room, i think

This was a great tip and worked for me last night but now isn't working for me today. Not sure why. I log out and back in but none of the containers are full again. Everything is still empty.

axiomaticb14a_ESO · November 2014

I can confirm that this works. Every single run through mzen I have found 1 dwemer page. You need to check every single container. If you run the whole thing and didn't find one, you are not checking every container.

Blud · November 2014

It worked for me for 2 runs last night and I got two Dwemer bow motifs. Today, all I got was empty containers.

AngryNord · November 2014

So how are people able to repeat this??? Isn't this a one-time instanced quest??

dharbert · November 2014

AngryNord wrote: »

So how are people able to repeat this??? Isn't this a one-time instanced quest??

Don't finish the quest. Just go through the delve and kill the mobs and loot the containers. Then go back to the entrance and exit the instance. Wait an hour, rinse, repeat.

Gillysan · November 2014

AngryNord wrote: »

So how are people able to repeat this??? Isn't this a one-time instanced quest??

I say right in my post "map travel out" and the map tells you what to do at the end.

I'm not so sure about QuadroTony's assessment of the situation. There is container anti-farming code. A moderator post alluded to two timers but when asked to clarify no one ever responded, they clammed up. There is "regeneration" and "recovery" I believe were the terms used. (goes to look for the post)

Gillysan · November 2014

.....and here you go:

ZOS_TristanK wrote: »

Just wanted to pop in and let you all know that the empty containers should be fixed with our patch today. From 1.5.3 patch notes:

Lootable objects found within items such as urns, crates, sacks, or dressers in delves, will now respawn more quickly as you travel from delve to delve.
Note: Lootable objects can and will still be depleted, but the duration between them regenerating has been reduced and the recovery rate has been increased.

Woolenthreads · November 2014

I'm sort of suspicious at a correlation. I had no characters above L45 and just had my crafter crawl across the line so to speak. All of a sudden (I mean in the last two days), I get three purples and a gold, being a dwemer Ax crafting doc, two recipes and the imperial motif. I mean I know RNG, but really? It almost makes me wonder if there isn't a level lock for recipes ie L10 for Blues and L45 for purples....

EQBallzz · November 2014

Woolenthreads wrote: »

I'm sort of suspicious at a correlation. I had no characters above L45 and just had my crafter crawl across the line so to speak. All of a sudden (I mean in the last two days), I get three purples and a gold, being a dwemer Ax crafting doc, two recipes and the imperial motif. I mean I know RNG, but really? It almost makes me wonder if there isn't a level lock for recipes ie L10 for Blues and L45 for purples....

It's not level related (exactly) it's more zone related. You see certain motiffs up until VR1 when more open up and then the rest at VR5. At least that's the way it was..they may have changed that. It seems the dwemer motiffs don't follow that and drop everywhere (so long as it's a dwemer ruin).

*edit*
It used to be something like this..
1-50 areas (high elf, argonian, bosmer, breton, dunmer, khajiit, nord, orc, redguard)
VR1-VR4 areas (primal, barbaric)
VR5+ (daedric, AE, Imperial)

I think Imperial might have started dropping in the VR1 areas as well but can't recall.

Cuyler · November 2014

I still get empty containers when I loot one ruin then port to another right away. The second ruin will have all empty containers. Usually requiring me to either relog or wait several mintues. Is this intended @ZOS_TristanK?

I figured I would be able to travel to each ruin in succession and have containers to loot at each one.

dharbert · November 2014

This instance also drops the Akaviri Dragonguard, Vestments Of The Warlock, and Shrouded Armor sets. Since it is a scaled, solo instance, perhaps there is a chance that it will drop these sets in VR12. Now, there probably aren't going to be many VR12's to VR14's who haven't done this quest, but it's a thought. I've got an alt up to L25 now from doing this instance and I'm going to keep doing it until at least VR1 to see if these sets keep dropping at the higher levels.

Gillysan · November 2014

Cuyler wrote: »

I still get empty containers when I loot one ruin then port to another right away. The second ruin will have all empty containers. Usually requiring me to either relog or wait several mintues. Is this intended @ZOS_TristanK?

I figured I would be able to travel to each ruin in succession and have containers to loot at each one.

No. Please read the moderator quote above under my name. The moderator even quotes patch notes. Bug report these issues.

Flynch · November 2014

EQBallzz wrote: »

Woolenthreads wrote: »

I'm sort of suspicious at a correlation. I had no characters above L45 and just had my crafter crawl across the line so to speak. All of a sudden (I mean in the last two days), I get three purples and a gold, being a dwemer Ax crafting doc, two recipes and the imperial motif. I mean I know RNG, but really? It almost makes me wonder if there isn't a level lock for recipes ie L10 for Blues and L45 for purples....

It's not level related (exactly) it's more zone related. You see certain motiffs up until VR1 when more open up and then the rest at VR5. At least that's the way it was..they may have changed that. It seems the dwemer motiffs don't follow that and drop everywhere (so long as it's a dwemer ruin).

*edit*
It used to be something like this..
1-50 areas (high elf, argonian, bosmer, breton, dunmer, khajiit, nord, orc, redguard)
VR1-VR4 areas (primal, barbaric)
VR5+ (daedric, AE, Imperial)

I think Imperial might have started dropping in the VR1 areas as well but can't recall.

Just so that you know - i've had 2 Imperial motifs drop in the low level areas. Mad luck for sure - I think both of them actually dropped in Bleakrock island.

kelly.medleyb14_ESO · November 2014

Edit: I tried going through the first time and ALL containers were empty, I was very disappointed and logged out at the end of the dungeon, I came back a while later and was outside the portal. I re-entered and items were lootable again!

I found my first dwmer motif tonight and am very please

Max2497 · December 2014

Has anyone ever gotten more than one page in a run?

EQBallzz · December 2014

I think there is a timer of about an hour. That's what numerous people have told me and my experience bears that out. When I was farming ruins I would just stop as soon as I got one and not come back until about an hour later with a new instance.

dharbert · December 2014

Max2497 wrote: »

Has anyone ever gotten more than one page in a run?

You can't get more than one page per run. And if by chance the motif that you find is a common one, you won't get a Dwemer one for the rest of the run, whether you take it from the container or not.

And yes, there is a timer on purple motifs and recipes, although I don't think it's as long as an hour.

Max2497 · December 2014

I left as soon as I found a Dwemer motif. Then came back later. It seems to be working well so far.

Rioht · January 2015

Just curious if this method is still viable?

Also dharbert brought up that warlocks, shrouded and some other seta drop here and are scaled to level.

Can anyone confirm that as well?

dharbert · January 2015

Rioht wrote: »

Just curious if this method is still viable?

Also dharbert brought up that warlocks, shrouded and some other seta drop here and are scaled to level.

Can anyone confirm that as well?

Yes, this still works. This instance drops several different sets according to your level. Akaviri Dragonguard, Vestments Of The Warlock, Silks Of The Sun, and others. I haven't leveled up my toons in this instance to VR12 yet, so I don't know if the Warlock set will drop here at that level. I will find out when I get that far.

Zershar_Vemod · January 2015

And now the nerfs come.

Probably before I even work on one of my alts in general haha.

dharbert · January 2015

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

And now the nerfs come.

Probably before I even work on one of my alts in general haha.

Highly unlikely. This instance has been this way since launch and is part of the Fighter's Guild storyline. I've been doing this for many months, and have posted about it several times. It's not going anywhere apparently.

SteveCampsOut · January 2015

EQBallzz wrote: »

Woolenthreads wrote: »

I'm sort of suspicious at a correlation. I had no characters above L45 and just had my crafter crawl across the line so to speak. All of a sudden (I mean in the last two days), I get three purples and a gold, being a dwemer Ax crafting doc, two recipes and the imperial motif. I mean I know RNG, but really? It almost makes me wonder if there isn't a level lock for recipes ie L10 for Blues and L45 for purples....

It's not level related (exactly) it's more zone related. You see certain motiffs up until VR1 when more open up and then the rest at VR5. At least that's the way it was..they may have changed that. It seems the dwemer motiffs don't follow that and drop everywhere (so long as it's a dwemer ruin).

*edit*
It used to be something like this..
1-50 areas (high elf, argonian, bosmer, breton, dunmer, khajiit, nord, orc, redguard)
VR1-VR4 areas (primal, barbaric)
VR5+ (daedric, AE, Imperial)

I think Imperial might have started dropping in the VR1 areas as well but can't recall.

Imperial has dropped in all areas since we came out of Beta. 1-50, VR1-Vr4 and VR5+. Area doesn't matter. It's just an ultra rare RNG drop.

AlnilamE · January 2015

Imperial can drop anywhere. I found my first Imperial on a level 3 character in Auridon and my second on a level 16 character in Mournhold.

Islyn · February 2015

Gillysan wrote: »

Fortunately, I'm not part of "generation can't". Mzeneldt has 241 containers. You need to advance the quest until the part noted on the map I made, then pay to map travel out.

Or travel to friend/guildie

Islyn · April 2015

Nerfed as of 20 April.

Cu'chulainn · August 2015

Islyn wrote: »

Nerfed as of 20 April.

How do you know? Its in update notes?

Molag_Crow · August 2015

Nice!