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Whats the best class now?
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Nacario✭✭✭I heard the best class was the Bow class, killing everything from afar with precision and fiery Arrows.Edited by Nacario on November 14, 2014 10:30AM0 -
Naslu✭✭✭Templer is a well balanced class
can play as superior healer, can play as tank (who actually keep aggro), and can do dps
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Pyatra✭✭✭nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »Sorcs has negate........ The single most powerful ability in pvp.
Give this man a cigar.
(I'm not wanting to give you lung cancer mind you, just acknowledging your 100% correct statement with a gift, maybe 2nd prize in a beauty contest is more your calling)
Recently in PVP FotM is Bows so no, it doesn't really help much right now... but, in a couple months when the next shiny build comes out I'm sure it will be... provided the next build isn't based on bow(unlikely as it already is FotM) or melee for main damage then it will be best skill again.
the next FoTM will be some kind of block casting build im sure.
Bows got nothing on that:/
Most of the sorc skills you can't block while casting, why must you toy with my emotions so?0 -
Pyatra✭✭✭
The Sorc feels like a non-healing support class that's not really good at supporting.The best Vet dungeon runs means having one of each class so you have the right ultimate for the right bosses. For example, Null Magic is now required on some bosses and Solar Prison on others.
My preferred group is DK tank, Templar Healer and a Sorc and NB dps.
The normal Vet group I run with is like this, but we take turns swapping roles to keep things fun. We all have a tank, healer and DPS build. (but having the sorc tank and DK heal did not work so well)
As for Crushing Shock or Pulsar for direct damage, that's not just a Sorc issue, its the only good dps for Templar too.
Edited by Pyatra on November 14, 2014 8:00PM1 -
Nightreaver✭✭✭✭And the award for best quote goes to
Definitely made my day, thanks.Khivas_Carrick wrote: »...and Sorcs make the best healers behind Nightblades and Templars.
Now I can finally say we are best at something.....well, behind Nightblades and Templars of course.
If they ever create a Legendary recipe it better contain bacon as one of the ingredients. I'm just sayin'.2 -
Ommamar✭✭✭✭The best Vet dungeon runs means having one of each class so you have the right ultimate for the right bosses. For example, Null Magic is now required on some bosses and Solar Prison on others.
My preferred group is DK tank, Templar Healer and a Sorc and NB dps.
The normal Vet group I run with is like this, but we take turns swapping roles to keep things fun. We all have a tank, healer and DPS build. (but having the sorc tank and DK heal did not work so well)
As for Crushing Shock or Pulsar for direct damage, that's not just a Sorc issue, its the only good dps for Templar too.
I think the ability to swap roles is one of the strengths of the game. Of course as this post shows everyone has to have the "best" and DPS is always considered king. Never mind that a high DPS without someone keeping them alive while someone controls the pace of the fight isn't going to last long. At least the OP did ask for the best healing and tanking option. Just wish things would get beyond the class idea but it does play a role.
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NordJitsu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DK is the best DPS and the best Tank. Templar is the best healer.
NB is 2nd place DPS and heals. Templar is 2nd place Tank.0 -
Khivas_Carrick✭✭✭✭✭Nightreaver wrote: »And the award for best quote goes to
Definitely made my day, thanks.Khivas_Carrick wrote: »...and Sorcs make the best healers behind Nightblades and Templars.
Now I can finally say we are best at something.....well, behind Nightblades and Templars of course.
Hey now, it's not far behind at all, and at some points they're better than both.Bobbity Boop, this game might become poop, but I'll still play because I'm just a pile of goop!0 -
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✭✭✭Well, everyone can agree templars are best healers, purely because Breath of life(healing ulti and purifying whatever-it's-called also comes in handy).
I'd say DKs and templars are a tie for the best tank. DK can actually do damage while tanking. Templar can off heal. And if played well, they both don't really ANY heals from the side in most situations. I know a great DK and a great templar tank, I've seen them do such amazing things<3
Dps, well, DKs and NB seem to be on top now. Caster DKs, at least. I see some great stamina-based NB dps which is more than I can say for any other class.
I'm not too sure on sorc atm:( Which is kind of sad seeing I *am* one...I love the utility of all those cool skills in solo play, but in group we don't really have that many things we can actually use.1 -
Khivas_Carrick✭✭✭✭✭People keep saying that Templars can't do DPS very well, and if they do, it's insanely harder to do so.
I kind of agree with this, but as of recently I've noticed that I'm having easier times DPSing using a 2H and a Bow as a Templar Stamina Build, and at times I want to believe I'm doing better than others, which feels to be true more often than not.
That said, I strongly believe that while some classes are obviously stronger than others, each class can still do each role just fine.Bobbity Boop, this game might become poop, but I'll still play because I'm just a pile of goop!0 -
alexj4596b14_ESO✭✭✭iv been a scorc tank from the start of the game, id say dk is still best for tanking and now that the NB class is working they are prity good to because they can heal the way they do but if the scorc tank knows what they are doing they shouldn't have any issues. I currently use a magic based tank build my stam never gets above 1600 and I do fine.0
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seanvwolf✭✭✭✭Sorc are bottom of the barrel in usefulness in all situations now. Pretty sad, actually.
One day, we might wake up to find that a new update has made melee sorcerers obscenely powerful. That is, if any of the employees at ZOS decide to roll one. I'm of the impression that they haven't post launch.0 -
cschwingeb14_ESO✭✭✭✭Sorc are bottom of the barrel in usefulness in all situations now. Pretty sad, actually.
One day, we might wake up to find that a new update has made melee sorcerers obscenely powerful. That is, if any of the employees at ZOS decide to roll one. I'm of the impression that they haven't post launch.
We're just one not-well-thought-out change to impenetrable/critical surge from this being true in PvP. I assume that's why they are moving slowly
PvE DPS fixes...that will take more work.
Also, whoever is talking about sorcs being good healers with all their crit...sorcs have the exact same access to crit as other classes.
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guybrushtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭cschwingeb14_ESO wrote: »Sorc are bottom of the barrel in usefulness in all situations now. Pretty sad, actually.
One day, we might wake up to find that a new update has made melee sorcerers obscenely powerful. That is, if any of the employees at ZOS decide to roll one. I'm of the impression that they haven't post launch.
We're just one not-well-thought-out change to impenetrable/critical surge from this being true in PvP. I assume that's why they are moving slowly
Yup. Critical Surge has amazing potential for future interactions if things get changed or when new skills get introduced.0 -
Cuyler✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sorcs are being left out of endgame content now and replaced with NBs. Sorcs need a buff.Guild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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Khivas_Carrick✭✭✭✭✭Have any of you given thought that the classes not being left out (such as, idk, Templars) are being included only if they fill a very specific role?
If so, how the hell does that not bother you?Bobbity Boop, this game might become poop, but I'll still play because I'm just a pile of goop!0 -
Cuyler✭✭✭✭✭
✭Khivas_Carrick wrote: »Have any of you given thought that the classes not being left out (such as, idk, Templars) are being included only if they fill a very specific role?
If so, how the hell does that not bother you?
Uh, it's all troublesome...didn't say that it wasn't. At least Templars have a role in a raid lol. I noted Sorcerers because they are now quickly becoming a dead class in which they are completely passed over for DKs or NBs in raids.
Its lame there are only 4 classes to begin with. Now there are basically only 3 due to all the Sorc QQ and subsequent nerfs.
EDIT: Unless I'm wrong and the entire community just hasn't figured out the right build to have competitive dps as a sorcerer.Edited by Cuyler on November 18, 2014 8:47PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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Khivas_Carrick✭✭✭✭✭I'm going to keep my eyes peeled, because I get the feeling that I've seen some good Sorc DPS and apparently didn't realize it, that or the exact opposite happened and I still didn't realize it.Bobbity Boop, this game might become poop, but I'll still play because I'm just a pile of goop!0
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Cuyler✭✭✭✭✭
✭Khivas_Carrick wrote: »I'm going to keep my eyes peeled, because I get the feeling that I've seen some good Sorc DPS and apparently didn't realize it, that or the exact opposite happened and I still didn't realize it.
Don't get me wrong here..I do good dps....
~900+ sustained to single target trials bosses.
~1.9k max crit
Now I would note that I've not collected the Wise Mage or Imperium Sets yet which would increase my dps....but not by the fraction needed to compete.
What I mean by competitive is that it would be comparable to DKs or NBs. That is:
~1.3k+ sustained to single target bosses
~2.5k+ max crit
This kind of dps I believe would require a buff to sorc or a new build that I haven't seen yet and believe you me, I've looked....Guild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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elausche_ESO✭✭✭It really depends on whether you want to do Group or Solo PvP or PvE.
Group PvP = DK
Solo PvP = DK
Group PvE = DK
Solo PvE = DK
Nm, it doesn't matter. Just roll a DK like 75% of the population.2 -
Khivas_Carrick✭✭✭✭✭^ Kind of accurate, but last night I only killed 7 Dragonknights, and I killed a lot of people last night. Kind of disappointing.Bobbity Boop, this game might become poop, but I'll still play because I'm just a pile of goop!0
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DPS is DK and NB
Tank is DK and Temp
Heals is Temp and NB
This seems very close to my impression of PVP balance currently. Sorc is lagging behind in PVP, anything other than Sorc has at least one strong niche in PVP. Right now in pvp sorcs are good at 1.) dropping absorption field 2.) annoying people with streak 3.) spamming crushing shock endlessly.
Roll anything but a sorc atm.
aside from the fact that a sorc who knows how to hold for a clutch negate is one of the most essential parts of any group worth their salt.0 -
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We're just one not-well-thought-out change to impenetrable/critical surge from this being true in PvP. I assume that's why they are moving slowly
PvE DPS fixes...that will take more work.
Also, whoever is talking about sorcs being good healers with all their crit...sorcs have the exact same access to crit as other classes.
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with critical surge sorcs heal themselves without being hit by the actual healing spells as well as making the staff skills much more effective. that could be what they are refering too... and you can get builds with high enough crit that you will be criting most casts.0 -
naturn✭✭✭dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »DPS is DK and NB
Tank is DK and Temp
Heals is Temp and NB
This seems very close to my impression of PVP balance currently. Sorc is lagging behind in PVP, anything other than Sorc has at least one strong niche in PVP. Right now in pvp sorcs are good at 1.) dropping absorption field 2.) annoying people with streak 3.) spamming crushing shock endlessly.
Roll anything but a sorc atm.
aside from the fact that a sorc who knows how to hold for a clutch negate is one of the most essential parts of any group worth their salt.
I am not bad with a negate but unless the sorc is playing with an organized group (they are usually very aware of how to take advantage of a good negate) the pug groups often don't take advantage of the negate and it is wasted, the opposing players just move 3 feet to the side, and the sorc usually dies.
Sorcs are a glass canon with the highest dps in most computer/online games but in ESO sorcs are glass canons with negate or streak and meh dps. Mostly streak is used to build ultimate, stun for a very short time, or flee. Sorcs in a dps exchange with a NB are more likely to lose. Sorcs need some incentive to keep playing or they will vanish into the sea of mostly DKs, with many NBs, and Templars.2 -
Blud✭✭✭✭✭Khivas_Carrick wrote: »...and Sorcs make the best healers behind Nightblades and Templars.
Bass akwards, isn't it.Edited by Blud on January 7, 2015 2:05PM0 -
Pmarsico9✭✭✭✭PVE DPS: Dragon Knight
PVE Tank: Dragon Knight
PVE Healer: Templar
PVP DPS: Nightblade
PVP Tank: Dragon Knight
PVP Healer: Templar
Essentially, the best class in the game is the Dragon Knight. They are the best in 50% of the roles available.
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Khivas_Carrick✭✭✭✭✭I actually disagree on the best PvE DPS being DKs. I'm more inclined to give it to a NB if they know what they're doing, and NB and Templar Tanks are pretty damn baller themselves (still not as good as a DK, but come pretty damn close), but best healers still go to Templars if only for the Oh *** Button that is Breath of Life. That said, Other classes can heal just fine, and when I'm healing I barely use BoL, if anything I rely more commonly on Healing Springs and Mutagen before BoL.Bobbity Boop, this game might become poop, but I'll still play because I'm just a pile of goop!2
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Nightreaver✭✭✭✭Khivas_Carrick wrote: »...and Sorcs make the best healers behind Nightblades and Templars.
Bass akwards, isn't it.
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest you really didn't understand what was being said in that statement but if you did then I would really like to hear what evidence you have to suggest that Sorcerers are the best Healers and Templars being the worst.
And as far as to which class is the best of the best of the best...
well I think most people will agree that the issue is moot with (semi?) complete class overhauls coming in the very near future.
If they ever create a Legendary recipe it better contain bacon as one of the ingredients. I'm just sayin'.0
