360k AP for 1 stack of filed Grand Soul Gems???

heng14rwb17_ESO · November 2014

Wow incredible.
Many many times more expensive than FC.

Asgari · November 2014

I have stacks of soul gems already and never end a night with less than I started. The amount you get in PvP Mail is crazy high IMO. I love the current price for gems and it should stay. Work harder and smarter to raise your K:D ratio.

Lord Stark · November 2014

Working harder and smarter to raise K:D ratio is absolutely irrelevant seeings how you do not rez yourself with them in Pvp..You rez other people.

And to the previous post recommending you spend a day doing pve dungeons, uhm no.. Its not to say that you cant get them easily doing it that way, this post is to point out that to pvp'rs the pice if bought with AP is too high.

I posted this thread in the Alliance war section for that reason, this is strictly from a pvp point of view and were only discussing the price IN alliance points.

Also, the 15 soul gems mentioned is no where near enough.. in a group of 40-80 players.. you lose a lot of people in every encounter 15 soul gems will be used in an hour of pvp.

Samadhi · November 2014

Sallington wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

THey should sell empty soul gems for 250 AP.

Empty BLACK soul gems so we can capture others' souls in Cyrodil.

Thought that Grand Soul Gems already captured other player's souls...

Lord Stark · November 2014

The amount in gems you get in the rewards of the worthy mail is definitely not too high considering you get it only with covenant armor pieces, If I use lets say 40 soul gems a day, even if I pvp the whole day I am not getting 40 pieces of covenant armor in my mail. Sorry.. been pvp'ing in this game for too long to not know.. If you guys never play with large groups I can understand this not being a big deal for you, however literally most of us do paly in large groups in cyrodiil and that is by design. Its alliance vs alliance..

TRIP233 · November 2014

Arito wrote: »

So... any 8 trait crafters can make me an oblivion's foe cloth set?

I can do that XD.

WraithAzraiel · November 2014

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

I have stacks of soul gems already and never end a night with less than I started. The amount you get in PvP Mail is crazy high IMO. I love the current price for gems and it should stay. Work harder and smarter to raise your K:D ratio.

Because ESO is clearly the new Call of Duty. Fraggin' nubs for awesome K:D.

LonePirate · November 2014

yodased wrote: »

I know this may be a bit cheeky, but if you guys spent 1 afternoon running dungeons you would have stacks of soul gems.

Try running dungeons when none of the guilds you're in tackle them and you're forced to use this game's horrendous LFG tool which is still a broken, unusable mess after seven months of release. I'd rather stand in front of the Mnem gate holding a "Target Practice" sign than use that miserable excuse of a dungeon group finder tool.

frozywozy · November 2014

Soul gems are so easy to fil with the Soul magic passives. Plus, you get more than enough from pvp rewards. I don't even know why anyone would think about buying them from cyro vendors. Unless 90% of your playtime is to seek white crosses on the ground, there is no reason why you would need to buy more.

[edit]: I actually think it's a great thing to put a high AP cost. This way it discourages some people to spend their AP in stuff to resell for gold instead of actually participating into buying sieges and helping the cause of their faction to win and complete objectives.

Erock25 · November 2014

frozywozy wrote: »

Soul gems are so easy to fil with the Soul magic passives. Plus, you get more than enough from pvp rewards. I don't even know why anyone would think about buying them from cyro vendors. Unless 90% of your playtime is to seek white crosses on the ground, there is no reason why you would need to buy more.

[edit]: I actually think it's a great thing to put a high AP cost. This way it discourages some people to spend their AP in stuff to resell for gold instead of actually participating into buying sieges and helping the cause of their faction to win and complete objectives.

Don't we get mail every 5k AP? I have been averaging around 20k AP/h as a solo player (but active in keep assault/defense) since camp removal and I'm guessing I only getting a soul gem every 10 or so Rewards for the Worthy. Maybe my AP/h is way off compared to some people but I really don't think earning 1 gem every 2.5 hours is 'more than enough'.

yodased · November 2014

@lonepirate Hence the "this may be a bit cheeky", but if you are looking for someone to run dungeons with, look no further. This is what we do

Sallington · November 2014

Samadhi wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

THey should sell empty soul gems for 250 AP.

Empty BLACK soul gems so we can capture others' souls in Cyrodil.

Thought that Grand Soul Gems already captured other player's souls...

Do they? I've never tried because there's no way they should.

cozmon3c_ESO · November 2014

I think Brian wheeler made them so expensive as to deplete some of our extensive ap pools so in 1.6 they can actually release some pvp sets that people won't be able to instantly buy upon release. Don't expect the price to fall until 1.6 when they hopefully release the seasonal gear for pvp. When I discussed this with him at the guild summit, he didn't feel like putting gear out there when everyone has so much ap. So this is his opportunity to get that ready imo. Save your points for upcoming gear or spend them to help your alliance, your choice.

Ifthir_ESO · November 2014

trading gems for bags holla atcha boy

eventide03b14a_ESO · November 2014

frozywozy wrote: »

Soul gems are so easy to fil with the Soul magic passives. Plus, you get more than enough from pvp rewards. I don't even know why anyone would think about buying them from cyro vendors. Unless 90% of your playtime is to seek white crosses on the ground, there is no reason why you would need to buy more.

[edit]: I actually think it's a great thing to put a high AP cost. This way it discourages some people to spend their AP in stuff to resell for gold instead of actually participating into buying sieges and helping the cause of their faction to win and complete objectives.

You don't think ressing other players helps "the cause of their faction to win and complete objectives"? Or perhaps only things that fall within your narrow definition "help the cause".

Aoe_Barbecue · November 2014

Selling full stacks of filled grand soul gems for 24,000 gold. It's cheaper than buying them for gold, ten times more convenient then farming them yourself, and a damned steal for gold-AP conversion. PST @‌corx3

(I am not joking

)

LonePirate · November 2014

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

I think Brian wheeler made them so expensive as to deplete some of our extensive ap pools so in 1.6 they can actually release some pvp sets that people won't be able to instantly buy upon release. Don't expect the price to fall until 1.6 when they hopefully release the seasonal gear for pvp. When I discussed this with him at the guild summit, he didn't feel like putting gear out there when everyone has so much ap. So this is his opportunity to get that ready imo. Save your points for upcoming gear or spend them to help your alliance, your choice.

If he wants to deplete our pools of AP, then all he needs to do is add a purple VR14 Cyrodiil's Light necklace with the Arcane trait to the Elite Vendor and I will immediately fork over almost 750K AP for it and the set's two matching rings which are already being sold by the vendor. I am sure I could find some other players who are willing to pay me some hefty gold for those three pieces of jewelry which I could buy with all of my remaining AP.

AssaultLemming · November 2014

What a ridiculous price. Can't they do anything in this game that makes sense? They should have been a few hundred for empty gems and maybe 1k to 1500 for the full ones.

Ifthir_ESO · November 2014

Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »

Selling full stacks of filled grand soul gems for 24,000 gold. It's cheaper than buying them for gold, ten times more convenient then farming them yourself, and a damned steal for gold-AP conversion. PST @‌corx3

(I am not joking )

going rate is 10-12k fwiw

david.haypreub18_ESO · November 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

THey should sell empty soul gems for 250 AP.

Empty BLACK soul gems so we can capture others' souls in Cyrodil.

That would be awesome. I love this idea.

Gives reasons to have soul trap on a pvp bar. And gives value to the passive that gives you an inherent chance to trap a soul on a weapon attack kill.

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌
@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌

Make it happen!

That would be so much better. Definitely make this happen!

Aoe_Barbecue · November 2014

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »

Selling full stacks of filled grand soul gems for 24,000 gold. It's cheaper than buying them for gold, ten times more convenient then farming them yourself, and a damned steal for gold-AP conversion. PST @‌corx3

(I am not joking )

going rate is 10-12k fwiw

Damn. Well, back to trying to sell AP to PvE'ers who want vendor gear lol

Durham · November 2014

Lord Stark wrote: »

Again.... 360k AP for 1 stack of filed Grand Soul Gems?!?!?!?!? What are you doing guys????? So I can save 7k now on FC's that rez 20 people in 1 second but I have to spend 7k+ on just 2 rez's that take forever and are too easily interuptable.. Throw us a bone here guys!!

Just crazy!

kijima · November 2014

Memo from ZOS:

Don't die in PvP.

GorraShatan · November 2014

Maybe if it forward camps had cost 3600 AP/res instead of 320 AP/res like they did we wouldn't have had so many problems with them too lol.

Jade_Knightblazerb14_ESO · November 2014

The Price Of Grand Soul Gems....

Cody · November 2014

they should at least make empty ones avaliable for a cheap AP price.

KBKB · November 2014

lolzenimax

Domander · November 2014

They should of just not bothered. They should put in some cheap empty gems for AP. Give some AP for rezzing. (put safeguards to prevent AP farming)

Iduyenn · November 2014

Oh! A philosophical discussion about the price of a soul:)

demonlkojipub19_ESO · November 2014

You know no one wanted "easy" field resurrections, thats why FC's are gone and thats why soul gems are starting out costing an arm and a leg.

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

I think Brian wheeler made them so expensive as to deplete some of our extensive ap pools so in 1.6 they can actually release some pvp sets that people won't be able to instantly buy upon release. Don't expect the price to fall until 1.6 when they hopefully release the seasonal gear for pvp. When I discussed this with him at the guild summit, he didn't feel like putting gear out there when everyone has so much ap. So this is his opportunity to get that ready imo. Save your points for upcoming gear or spend them to help your alliance, your choice.

Or you know people still won't buy them for AP because they are obviously overpriced.