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AD has no Dwemer Ruins?
Valen_Byte
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ZOS, how is a new AD player supposed to get any of the Dwemer pages?
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MAY YOUR DEATHS BE SWIFT, AND YOUR LOAD SCREENS LONG.
And alien tears will fill for him, Pity’s long-broken urn, For his mourners will be outcast men, And outcasts always mourn
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Vyle_Byte✭✭✭✭✭
✭And please don't give the BS answer of roll another character in another faction or wait til your AD character is Vet. I mean come on, how is that fair to the that entire faction? What were you guys thinking when you chose to do it this way?Member of the Old GuardMother of the Byte FamilyVyle Byte||Ivana Byte||Vyible Byte||Hakate Vampler Former EMPRESS BWB||Haan Zolo {Retired} (He swung first)||Lunari ||Wardyn Chalyk Tahno||Dirti Dianah||Bonnie||
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Ysne58✭✭✭✭✭You do find yourself in at least one dwemer ruin during the fighters guild questline. But other than that there are none.0 -
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✭cause LORE.
And?
So to get the new motif they completely alienate an entire faction? Its not like they couldn't have chosen a different way for us to get them, they didn't HAVE to put them only in dwemer ruins....
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this complaint is silly, is it "not fair" that you have to wait until vet 1-5 for a bunch of motifs and then wait even longer until the vet 6-10 for the rest? perhaps you would like them to just mail you a copy.
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lordspyder✭✭✭✭✭Or hey, roll a new EP character, and run straight to inner sea armature. But oh yeah, those 2 minutes are too much to ask...2 -
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✭dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »this complaint is silly, is it "not fair" that you have to wait until vet 1-5 for a bunch of motifs and then wait even longer until the vet 6-10 for the rest? perhaps you would like them to just mail you a copy.
[Snip]. Actually this doesnt affect me, I was thinking more about new players and am curious about why they alienated an entire faction...but thank you for your insightful comment.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]Edited by ZOS_LenaicR on November 9, 2014 7:59PMMember of the Old GuardMother of the Byte FamilyVyle Byte||Ivana Byte||Vyible Byte||Hakate Vampler Former EMPRESS BWB||Haan Zolo {Retired} (He swung first)||Lunari ||Wardyn Chalyk Tahno||Dirti Dianah||Bonnie||
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Valen_Byte✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »this complaint is silly, is it "not fair" that you have to wait until vet 1-5 for a bunch of motifs and then wait even longer until the vet 6-10 for the rest? perhaps you would like them to just mail you a copy.
Its not even a complaint, but thanks for your assumption. Im a vet so it doesn't effect me in the slightest. I dint realize until today that there are no Dwemer ruins in all of AD. No, its not an even playing field if one faction does not have access to a game feature.
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✭✭lordspyder wrote: »Or hey, roll a new EP character, and run straight to inner sea armature. But oh yeah, those 2 minutes are too much to ask...
So you are saying this makes perfect sense to you and this is exactly the way you would have done it if you where a dev?***Dixon Kay MagDK FORMER EMPEROR***Deca Dix MagDK FORMER EMPORER***Valonious MagPlar FORMER EMPEROR***
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then stop complaining about AD not having dwemer ruins and complain about dwemer ruins being the only way to get it.Edited by tplink3r1 on November 9, 2014 7:21PMVR16 Templar
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lordspyder✭✭✭✭✭No, but as a player this is actually the best option, I can keep deleting and remaking the alt as they over level it, and keep getting scrap as well as pages. Honestly if you're not doing this, you are probably wasting your time even if you are EP...
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✭then stop complaining about AD not having dwemer ruins and complain about the places you can loot it.
Firstly Im not complaining, sounds to me like you are. Complaining that I asked a question. [Snip].
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✭✭lordspyder wrote: »No, but as a player this is actually the best option, I can keep deleting and remaking the alt as they over level it, and keep getting scrap as well as pages. Honestly if you're not doing this, you are probably wasting your time even if you are EP...
Thats not really the point. I know, and do go to the other factions to farm. The point is, that I shouldn't have to. Thats all.***Dixon Kay MagDK FORMER EMPEROR***Deca Dix MagDK FORMER EMPORER***Valonious MagPlar FORMER EMPEROR***
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JessieColt✭✭✭✭First of all, no one is alienated. Everyone can get the Dwemer pages. Some may have access to getting them at a lower level than others, but that doesn't mean that AD has no chance of getting them at all.
I am curious about something though. Can you link me to the thread that you created when information about Nirncrux was released in which you complained about how unfair it was that Nirncrux was only available to people who could get to Craglorn?
After all, Zos _must_ have done that just to alienate everyone who has an alt character under level 50, right?9 -
Gillysan✭✭✭✭Indeed, an interesting drop appears that has relevant ties to lore and all some of you can do is whine about it. So once they release the Ayleid motif we can expect the same response from some of you because that motif will heavily favor the AD?
I think they have done something really cool with the way the Dwemer motif was released.Crafting Services http://tinyurl.com/GillysansStore Organizational Guide http://tinyurl.com/GillysansEnchanterLeveling
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✭✭JessieColt wrote: »First of all, no one is alienated. Everyone can get the Dwemer pages. Some may have access to getting them at a lower level than others, but that doesn't mean that AD has no chance of getting them at all.
I am curious about something though. Can you link me to the thread that you created when information about Nirncrux was released in which you complained about how unfair it was that Nirncrux was only available to people who could get to Craglorn?
After all, Zos _must_ have done that just to alienate everyone who has an alt character under level 50, right?
If I were a new player, who just bought the game today, and made an AD character, I would not have access to the Dwemer pages. If I made a character in either of the other two factions, I would have access to the pages within minutes. Im not really sure why you are even arguing this. Its a fact.***Dixon Kay MagDK FORMER EMPEROR***Deca Dix MagDK FORMER EMPORER***Valonious MagPlar FORMER EMPEROR***
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✭✭Indeed, an interesting drop appears that has relevant ties to lore and all some of you can do is whine about it. So once they release the Ayleid motif we can expect the same response from some of you because that motif will heavily favor the AD?
I think they have done something really cool with the way the Dwemer motif was released.
You are misreading this if you think this is a complaint thread. It is very cool. I just didn't realize that there are no Dwemer in AD. Its really not that big of a deal. Just doesn't make since. But w/e...I'm not a new player. I have my pages.
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✭JessieColt wrote: »First of all, no one is alienated. Everyone can get the Dwemer pages. Some may have access to getting them at a lower level than others, but that doesn't mean that AD has no chance of getting them at all.
I am curious about something though. Can you link me to the thread that you created when information about Nirncrux was released in which you complained about how unfair it was that Nirncrux was only available to people who could get to Craglorn?
After all, Zos _must_ have done that just to alienate everyone who has an alt character under level 50, right?
LOL
Nope neither of us made any thread about that, why would that make sense to you? Thats meant for Vet players. The motifs are meant for any level. It just doesnt make sense to me, why they chose to do it this way.
Im curious as to why people have to be such smartass's about a question, a simple why is it like this? People get so hostile for no reason.
Oh right, we are on the forums.
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Look at it another way, from 50 on you have access to the most mobs that drop loot to get dwemer scraps as all the ruins are lvl 45 plus
Not sure if this balances out the having to wait a month to start farming but well it's another way to look at the coin.
And lets be fair you're going to be 50+ a lot longer than you're are <50...Edited by Gythral on November 9, 2014 7:42PM“Be as a tower, that, firmly set,
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lordspyder✭✭✭✭✭It is like this because of the lore. I has already been answered, and work arounds given. And if you were a new player you wouldn't have access to the pages right away anyways because you need to be 9/90
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✭✭lordspyder wrote: »It is like this because of the lore. I has already been answered, and work arounds given. And if you were a new player you wouldn't have access to the pages right away anyways because you need to be 9/9
Depends on the type of player you are. My crafter was 9/9 long before I hit vet. Obviously we can all find a loophole or work around, thats not the point, and this thread is a waste of time.
@ZOS_LenaicR would be nice if you would shed some light on this since the question was directed at you. Instead of the normal..come in, snip, snip leave without a word.***Dixon Kay MagDK FORMER EMPEROR***Deca Dix MagDK FORMER EMPORER***Valonious MagPlar FORMER EMPEROR***
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lordspyder✭✭✭✭✭Valen_Byte wrote: »lordspyder wrote: »It is like this because of the lore. I has already been answered, and work arounds given. And if you were a new player you wouldn't have access to the pages right away anyways because you need to be 9/9
Depends on the type of player you are. My crafter was 9/9 long before I hit vet. Obviously we can all find a loophole or work around, thats not the point, and this thread is a waste of time.
@ZOS_LenaicR would be nice if you would shed some light on this since the question was directed at you. Instead of the normal..come in, snip, snip leave without a word.
but you're not a new player, which it where the concern was, and if you go through the trouble of having crafting alts, I fail to see the problem with a farming alt.Edited by lordspyder on November 9, 2014 8:41PM0 -
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✭✭And please don't give the BS answer of roll another character in another faction or wait til your AD character is Vet. I mean come on, how is that fair to the that entire faction? What were you guys thinking when you chose to do it this way?
They didn't have the motif when they launched, and I think they though Dwemer metal would satisfy our Dwemer needs, they were wrong.
I have characters in all three factions, but I do feel sorry for anyone levelling up an AD character.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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✭Not only that OP, but it gets even "better". At least in the vet ruins, 90% of the containers are empty (a bug that they have known about forever)!
But on the positive side, this oversight will encourage people to make EP/DC characters. So maybe the population imbalance in PvP will be resolved.Edited by OrangeTheCat on November 9, 2014 10:07PM0 -
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✭It's yet another reminder to not bother with new content and such until at least a week or two after its initial release, because nothing seems to ever be very well tested or even thought out, or so it seems anyway. And I for one am tired of paying to be part of ZOS' QA.Edited by OrangeTheCat on November 9, 2014 9:45PM1 -
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✭✭There really shouldn't be faction imbalances like this, and game companies take pains to make sure there aren't. For instance, in PvP, devs usually have the exact same distance from starting area to a keep or capture point. Especially if they have instanced scenarios.
I'm fairly sure it's just an oversight.2
