AD has no Dwemer Ruins?

Alphashado

I'm not sure how anyone can debate this issue. New AD characters are at a pretty major disadvantage here. it doesn't matter how you slice it or spin it or how many loopholes they can jump through. The undeniable FACT here is that new DC and EP characters can get their hands on these valuable items much easier.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO

Valen_Byte wrote: »

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »

this complaint is silly, is it "not fair" that you have to wait until vet 1-5 for a bunch of motifs and then wait even longer until the vet 6-10 for the rest? perhaps you would like them to just mail you a copy.

Its not even a complaint, but thanks for your assumption. Im a vet so it doesn't effect me in the slightest. I dint realize until today that there are no Dwemer ruins in all of AD. No, its not an even playing field if one faction does not have access to a game feature.

There is no such thing as a faction not having access, you get access to all factions. I'm just pointing out that many things you don't get right away including 50% of the motifs.... And this is about motifs.

OrangeTheCat

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »

this complaint is silly, is it "not fair" that you have to wait until vet 1-5 for a bunch of motifs and then wait even longer until the vet 6-10 for the rest? perhaps you would like them to just mail you a copy.

Its not even a complaint, but thanks for your assumption. Im a vet so it doesn't effect me in the slightest. I dint realize until today that there are no Dwemer ruins in all of AD. No, its not an even playing field if one faction does not have access to a game feature.

There is no such thing as a faction not having access, you get access to all factions. I'm just pointing out that many things you don't get right away including 50% of the motifs.... And this is about motifs.

So what you are saying is that factions that have access to dwemer ruins at lower levels should be denied the possibility of finding these dwemer motifs?

Leeric

This complaint is the most hilarious one yet. I was wondering when someone was going to point it out. Good times.

lordspyder

It really is the most insane complaint I've seen, especially since it's so easy to roll an EP farming alt and head straight to inner sea armature. You can do it immediately after character creation

OrangeTheCat

Just pointing out inconsistency.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO

There is no such thing as a faction not having access, you get access to all factions. I'm just pointing out that many things you don't get right away including 50% of the motifs.... And this is about motifs.

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So what you are saying is that factions that have access to dwemer ruins at lower levels should be denied the possibility of finding these dwemer motifs?[/quote]

no, clearly what im saying is nobody is denied finding them because you will have access to them. If all you care about is farming them then make a farming alt and go farm them.
the fact you think its not fair they didnt break the games lore so you dont have to wait until the next area is laughable at best.

Kvasir Silverpaw

OP you are exactly right. Of course the other factions , which i am a part of, are going to tell you to suck it up. Thats because they arent in your shoes. Ignore all the trolling, you have a valid point and ZOS should address it.

Ragefist

Valen_Byte wrote: »

ZOS, how is a new AD player supposed to get any of the Dwemer pages?

You do realize, once glass armor is released, you would be on the winning side? And us EP (well, the 1% who isnt VR yet) will do same QQ here?

Relax, if you are so determined to get dwemer items for your level at all cost (so you can outlevel them next day), you can buy them from other players

bedlom

Before you know it there will be elf motifs only found in ayleid ruins so there will be balance and it will make sense at the same time.

bosmern_ESO

Dwemer were located in northern Tamriel, we don't get dwemer ruins but we get Ayleid.

OrangeTheCat

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Dwemer were located in northern Tamriel, we don't get dwemer ruins but we get Ayleid.

I thought ancient elf was ayleid.

Ragefist

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Dwemer were located in northern Tamriel, we don't get dwemer ruins but we get Ayleid.

I thought ancient elf was ayleid.

Correct, however glass armor will come from Aleyid ruins in same fashion as Dwemer style. Tbh the Aleyid motif was supposed to resemble glass, but it didnt exactly hit the spot (like Daedric) so we will have a proper one

Adhal

Easy fix, make a new DC char, go to stros mkai, done.

Don't get much exp while farming dwemer motiffs anyways, after you get what you want delete it.

AlexDougherty

Adhal wrote: »

Easy fix, make a new DC char, go to stros mkai, done.

Don't get much exp while farming dwemer motiffs anyways, after you get what you want delete it.

Nice.

I have players in all three factions, so I should be able to farm Dwemer and Glass motifs.

AngryNord

Ragefist wrote: »

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Dwemer were located in northern Tamriel, we don't get dwemer ruins but we get Ayleid.

I thought ancient elf was ayleid.

Correct, however glass armor will come from Aleyid ruins in same fashion as Dwemer style. Tbh the Aleyid motif was supposed to resemble glass, but it didnt exactly hit the spot (like Daedric) so we will have a proper one

Heh.. In lore Glass armour is said to hail from Morrowind...

Adhal

I'm curious because this is the first I have heard of it, is glass supposed to be in next patch or something?

Maotti

Ragefist wrote: »

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Dwemer were located in northern Tamriel, we don't get dwemer ruins but we get Ayleid.

I thought ancient elf was ayleid.

Correct, however glass armor will come from Aleyid ruins in same fashion as Dwemer style. Tbh the Aleyid motif was supposed to resemble glass, but it didnt exactly hit the spot (like Daedric) so we will have a proper one

Well, Ayleid ruins is in all factions aswell.

AlexDougherty

Adhal wrote: »

I'm curious because this is the first I have heard of it, is glass supposed to be in next patch or something?

The mods have said it's coming, but nobody has said when.

Mountain_Dewed

I'm fairly certain an AD guild mate of mine repeatedly farmed a dwemer ruin in the Fighters guild quest at level 14.

AlexDougherty

Mountain_Dewed wrote: »

I'm fairly certain an AD guild mate of mine repeatedly farmed a dwemer ruin in the Fighters guild quest at level 14.

yes, if you don't finish the quest, you can farm for motif, but it's a touch boring.

Messy1

I have no sympathy for this issue.

Messy1

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

There really shouldn't be faction imbalances like this, and game companies take pains to make sure there aren't. For instance, in PvP, devs usually have the exact same distance from starting area to a keep or capture point. Especially if they have instanced scenarios.

I'm fairly sure it's just an oversight.

There should be faction imbalances like this, some factions should have some strengths and weaknesses and regional differences. In fat we need more features that will give each faction a unique flavor. So maybe they need to increase the drop rate of ancient elf motif in AD or something.

Kaynehusky

Messy1 wrote: »

There should be faction imbalances like this, some factions should have some strengths and weaknesses and regional differences. In fat we need more features that will give each faction a unique flavor. So maybe they need to increase the drop rate of ancient elf motif in AD or something.

This, this, a thousand times this. People keep complaining "Oh waaaah, different faction is different but I want same things as other faction" If you want content from other factions, either hit veteran level, or roll up a new character, or have a bit of GOD-DANG FACTION PRIDE. Leave it to the Bananas to whine about not getting everything they want.

ers101284b14_ESO

I know he's upset about not getting motifs but don't the scraps only drop from VR dwemer constructs? Meaning even with motif he couldn't make it anyway? Or is it just because I'm VR14 that I don't get low mobs to drop scraps? I have only ever gotten dwemer scraps from VR5 constructs.

Messy1

Kaynehusky wrote: »

Messy1 wrote: »

There should be faction imbalances like this, some factions should have some strengths and weaknesses and regional differences. In fat we need more features that will give each faction a unique flavor. So maybe they need to increase the drop rate of ancient elf motif in AD or something.

This, this, a thousand times this. People keep complaining "Oh waaaah, different faction is different but I want same things as other faction" If you want content from other factions, either hit veteran level, or roll up a new character, or have a bit of GOD-DANG FACTION PRIDE. Leave it to the Bananas to whine about not getting everything they want.

All eight of my characters are DC, I have never played a non-DC character. I have a Daggerfall Covenant T-shirt I wear while playing sometimes. I run a a DC guild. King Emeric is a panzy, wish we could assassinate him, but other than that am happy with the DC.

JaJaLuka

Lol, as it happens the Skald King is a panzy too. You learn this in your first encounter with him when he mentions that he is a diplomat (just did this quest again on an alt).

lordspyder

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

I know he's upset about not getting motifs but don't the scraps only drop from VR dwemer constructs? Meaning even with motif he couldn't make it anyway? Or is it just because I'm VR14 that I don't get low mobs to drop scraps? I have only ever gotten dwemer scraps from VR5 constructs.

No, they drop from any construct. I created a new EP character to farm Inner Sea Armature. This is a lvl 5 (Not VR5 but normal lvl 5) dwemer ruin, in one day I pulled about 130 scraps and 5 pages out of there.

ers101284b14_ESO

lordspyder wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

I know he's upset about not getting motifs but don't the scraps only drop from VR dwemer constructs? Meaning even with motif he couldn't make it anyway? Or is it just because I'm VR14 that I don't get low mobs to drop scraps? I have only ever gotten dwemer scraps from VR5 constructs.

No, they drop from any construct. I created a new EP character to farm Inner Sea Armature. This is a lvl 5 (Not VR5 but normal lvl 5) dwemer ruin, in one day I pulled about 130 scraps and 5 pages out of there.

Ah so it's from your level then. I have been farming the crap out of 3 different ruins but only get scraps from the VR5 ruins. Have yet to get a single scrap from the lower one

Kaynehusky

Messy1 wrote: »

All eight of my characters are DC, I have never played a non-DC character. I have a Daggerfall Covenant T-shirt I wear while playing sometimes. I run a a DC guild. King Emeric is a panzy, wish we could assassinate him, but other than that am happy with the DC.

Same as me, though I actually rather like Emeric. He's a bit brash, but he means well, and has a sense of humor. What I'm not entirely fond of is his inconsistency of character growth. You'd think after the events Stormhaven he'd be more humble, and the experiences in Bangkorai would have wizened him, but during the Alliance council where you get all three leaders together, he's probably the most pig-headed. It's kind of obnoxious.